Are Surround Gaming Headphones BS?
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CORRECTION: It turns out that the ASUS Fusion 700 uses virtual surround based on Bongiovi Acoustics' Digital Power Station technology, not ASUS' proprietary solution. Sorry for the confusion!
Thanks!! Also FIRST
I am sorry but why did you only test in OverWatch. This game was built on Dolby Atmos technology, no wonder Dolby won in most cases. You can even turn on and off this feature in settings. Apex, for example, sounds mindblowing with Sennheiser Gsx 1000, you can hear steps from a mile away. Could you test with different games too? P.S. Anyway this video was amazing
how did you guys not test the Astro Headsets?
@@-____-2468 please suggest me best gaming headset
Please fix your audio, the sibilance in this one is killing my ears.
2:34
Whoever did this needs a raise
The editor?
No doubt about it.
I was dying laughing as I heard it.
That is depressing... How is that funny lol
OG Mudbone
Team: "yo linus we need you on B"
Linus: "so this headset..."
Yeah bro bot jeff was demoted in silver because of him
Lmao
2:43 The true surround sound experience
It's perfect
i watched this with 5$ headphones and everytime he says the letter S my eardrums die
It´s because the S region is to high (thats a real thing)
Hey I wanna ask is surround sound only work on speaker?????
I am listening with inexpensive Yoga CD-68 which have a pretty flat frequency response and don't have pronounced high frequency resonances and have decent extension, but they slightly suppress sibilant sounds due to a dip at 7.1 KHz. And even i found the sibilance in this video painful.
My heart goes out to people listening to this in ATH-50x or Superlux headphones, because those have a murderous sibilant peak. Unless these people have a lot of hearing damage, they are genuinely dead now.
It's actually a common problem in audio recording, the sibilant sounds coming off some microphones need to be suppressed in editing using a de-esser or EQ.
Wait until you start watching Mutahar
@Nuke well speakers that are directly behind you will sound more real than headphones that simulate sounds from behind.
On a scale of 1 to 10. I give surround sound headphones a 5.1
And I give them a 7.1
6.999999999999999
Smartt
I give them a 9.1.2
I give them a 5.2.4
I've had hyper X cloud 2's for a fair few years and from my experience I find it was easier to hear directional in stereo rather than 7.1
Yea i just got rid of them to get the alphas and I can agree. Surround sound sounded all distorted and hollow.
Ive used a Razer kraken x and a Logitech G430 with Dolby Atmos and surround sound actually enhances the sound, for me at least.
I still prefer using higher end music headphones, like my Bowers & Wilkins
youll get used to it
Well I've heard that the cloud II have kinda bad virtual. The revolver S, G600 and 900 series seem to be doing pretty nice
it's been a while since this video came out, but I noticed some interesting things comparing my 7.1 true and virtual headsets. I noticed that true surround makes vertical gameplay way easier than the virtual solutions.
2:40 We need a 10 hour version of this
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Ei tarvita 😂
Stop commenting on literally every CZcams channel!
Who
@@computethis7128 And why do you care? Stop acting like a child
00:49
When your editor needs a little laugh during the day.
But forgets to delete it before its uploaded.
I usually find edits like those stupid..but because it was so unexpected in a setting like this it got me.
2:40 was the best part
Had me in cramps 😂😂😂
"He's behind me but where"
Lmao
Absolutely fascinating and useful too! I love these sort of videos. What about that new Creative tech - SXFI? It actually scans the shape of your head to adjust the sound and apparently a lot of people were impressed considering how many awards it got at CES. With Dolby Atmos enabled on that thing, should SXFI headset be the best setup? I like Creative products, I would be interested to know.
2:43 i wonder whose idea it was to use THIS sound
Aprime, he's the meme specialist of the LTT team
@@suse621 loud nigra
@@suse621 guy screaming very loud?????
@@suse621 world's loudest orgasm
Fisher Zhao its not. I believed the niconico title is probably ‘Yajuu senpai (English dub)’ in Japanese.
2:43 *loud nigra.mp3*
I see linus is a man of culture...
That's not nigra, that's Епифанцев
@@Psygnificant А ты думал откуда семпл взяли
Братишка орет похоже, но все же немного по другому.
@Kevin Crocker Nope. You got the black guy part right though.
For the curious, a black guy, screamed like this during orgasm, while copulating with a white middle aged women. I'll leave it to the curious to go and find the clip.
This scared the shit out of me lol suddenly hearing somepne screaming into my ears
I have had numerous headphones over the years, including a couple of virtual surround sound gaming headphones and some high quality studio headphones, which includes AKG K7XX. But I can tell you right now out of my own experience, that my Srix 7.1 true surround sound headphones provides me with one hell of an edge when it comes to positioning sound, I can pinpoint the direction of gunfire or footsteps to the T every time.
Couldn't make a more appropriate hint than this Beyerdynamic DT appearance when you say "you just get good audio" :p
you cant play cs without gaming socks ya know.
Don't forget the rgb mouse pad.
@@mijack8228 and the $399 chair.
I find playing naked makes you alot more careful
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i can't believe The World's Loudest Orgasm made it into a LTT video at 02:44
I can believe it
This video is the perfect example why I love this channel.
This video really helps me out finding my next pair of headphones. Still rocking my 5 years old Logitech G430 (with some added tape to hold everything together). I'm currently thinking of getting the newer G432 or the G Pro. Another option that I'm looking into is the Beyerdynamic DT 770, possibly with a microphone and a DAC+Amp combo, but that's a bit more expensive. This video made me lean more towards the latter option.
I appreciate you guys taking on such an overlooked topic. Audio goes mostly under randar but I believe it can greatly enhance gaming experience. I don't necessarily mean surround, just good quality audio
Under "randar" eh? Heh heh ;)
That's how I got into audiophile grade gear. I wanted something that would give me positional audio in games.
Some of my favorite kills are when I manage to frag an enemy I never saw because I was able to hear where they were
been using "gaming" headsets for years now and finnaly got a expensive studio headset, defintly worth it, just needed to buy a mic
He was afk I feel bad for his team
Yeah I bet this was BOT Jeff's rank up game too.
@@tapcha9582 I remeber him. lol
They were bots...
Minecraft Chicken Nugget r/woooosh
Yeah man, I feel bad for BOT Yuri
This video is highly under rated. Thanks so much for this !
This video was extremely educational. I was in Best Buy testing about 10 headsets and every experience ranged from “meh” to “ok”. I wasn’t really blown away by any of the brands. I also found out that the consumer can only get the full experience on PC with most headsets, due to the software not being able to be installed on Console. This is a bummer.
The best sound experience I found was the Logitech G935 for PC. The microphone was mediocre and the headset is bulky. On Console the G935, Steelpro, Hyper X, Razor, Astro, Turtle Beach, Sennheiser and so many others was a medium experience. I was fortunate to speak with another customer that was very educated with tech and headsets. I found out the hard way that most headsets for console are “enhanced stereo” at best.
I’m a little bummed because my expectations for Gaming Headsets on Console were very high. It is still good for me to buy a set for late night gaming.
Bro he's leaving his team out to dry in CS:GO
He's playing with bots, thankfully.
Weren't those bots? I'm not huge into CSGO but usually dropping into a bot match if you want to test systems without screwing over actual people. That's how you do it.
shhhhhh
Nogga
Yeah man, feel bad for BOT Yuri
did you really just use a Efukt porno scream @ 2:44 hahahahahahahahhahahahah
Thank Christ I wasn't the only one who noticed
haha efukt is a weird website
Haha, I had to go re watch the video but can confirm!
WTF is a Efukt porno scream and why do so many people know?
I am 100% ashamed to acknowledge the fact that I used to frequent efukt as a teenager with friends
After working at Best Buy for years and having to sell customers on things like premium cables and 7.1 headsets it’s pretty cathartic to see Linus rip it all apart
Back in the day, I remember having been really impressed by Aureal's A3D in Half-Life, it definitely added something to the game. That was 20 years ago.
is a shame that such technology and attention to directional audio was forgotten by game developers and just a bunch of them had it
I have to admit Linus, you and your team are something special. The way you conduct videos honestly, try to admit your mistakes, and give us an enjoyable video everytime is something I truly enjoy. Lol I even watch videos I don't have much interest in because I enjoy watching the way you make videos. Keep up the good work!
This is actually a very useful and insightful vid. Appreciate it my guy 👌🏼
2:40 omg i cant stp laughing
Lisen it with headphone
its even better
I do not understand
@@irunasoft don't worry, you will understand when you realize that surround sound scream was coming from one of the employees being spanked by Linus
This is very helpful -- and will be helpful when I review a new pair of gaming headphones that feature 7.1 virtual -- Thanks as always!
"Ear /ir/ - n. growths on the side of your head"
- Linus English Dictionary, 1st edition.
Definition request for earballs...
Aureal 3D on my Sonic Impact S90 was the best I've ever experienced, I could accurate pinpoint footsteps perfectly in game and knew exactly where people were.
Wow thanks for this video!!! I recently started using headphones and was very annoyed and desoriented by the plain stereo sound. (I'm used to nothing less than 5.1 for the last 20 years.) I couldn't believe it and after trying, I still can't believe how amazing Dolby Atmos is!!
Been watching yer vids for years. Cheers mate
Wow this video really covers the topic from every angle
Almost like they surrounded the topic
@@Arynemily Yeah they really thought about it from every direction
I agree, they ended up making a really sound argument.
If I try to make a pun I'll sound dumb
Vedant Sakhuja wow, nice pun
Thanks I'll stick to my Samsung smart fridge 😎😎😎😎
Can it run Crysis?
nahh my panasonic toaster better
@@syahmiahmad2166 my soulja phone is way better.
@@AmateurGT My LG air con beats everyone's here
Very nice video! Nobody talks about gaming sound!! Buying a good stereo headset its always the best option! Like you set setting up the right software is what makes the magic happen
thanks for the video. In your "pointing test", did you try test have the sound source coming from supposedly "behind" the observer, and was the observer able to distinguish that the sound came from behind him?
thanks so much for this video! Ive been telling my mates that all along...
i miss the "GAMING" way of saying "GAMING" you did some vid ago
^
It's for sh*t manufacturers say
YES ME TOO
Can Logitech G935 headset/headphone run Dolby Atmos using Dolby Access software from Windows Store? If yes, is it fully compatible with Dolby Atmos? will I get the full experience? and are there differences between using DTS:X from Logitech G935 software and DTS Sound Unbound software from Windows Store? which one is better?
As always great informative content
2:39 Okay, I was NOT expecting to hear that audio clip. Editor loves Siivagunner/that genre of memes confirmed.
Uhm, the lead editor is taran
What are you expecting?
Loud Ni
gachiBASS
That clip is from a porn video. It's some black guy busting the biggest load in the world. I swear to god. Even the girl was like jesus christ. So funny they took this clip.
Gay fisting porn audio, not that I know anything.
i don't know why, but linus's videos are always so calming. i love marathoning linus's videos on a chill day.
funny, i find his voice and mimicking highly irritating
Hello, I have known your channel now and this video is fantastic. What do you think about Creative's new SXFI technology? It seems to be something totally different from normal virtualized surrounds, especially the new GEN2 release. Could you include this in your comparison? I am undecided between the Schitt Fulla 3 and the Sound Balster X3 with SXFI. Thanks in advance
most of games handle 3D sound placement in stereo with equalizing their characteristic
when it comes from the front, it sound very clear, bright
when it comes from the rear, it will slightly muffled, and added more bass
thats why, even we using stereo speaker (not headphone), we can still determine the direction of enemy
as a gamer, we already get used to it, so when we using 5.1 or 7.1 headphone, the game handle sound "realistically", and our ear need to adapt with it
IMO, True 5.1/7.1 headphone is for the movie, have very wide soundstage, the downside is, their center speaker is always bad quality (small speaker)
totally true someone beat super mario 64 blind and it was all by sound locations of enemys some games today dont even hold up to the audio of older games there poorly mixed and are very 2d sounding
2:43 somebody's getting the "short" end of the stick.
no, no he isn't
@@berengerchristy6256 The "long" end then?
I didn't know it was possible to be this new
It's not original I agree. It relies on double entendre and irony to work.
Nah, just bustin a fat one
As an owner of the Razor Man O' War I can say that it was garbage $130 headset that the head rest breaks on in 3 months...
Don't take my word for it though, that's why it has terrible reviews from owners all over amazon and newegg...
If not for that issue (And now driver support problems...) It would of been great...
My brother had the same problem with it and the Tiamat too. On the Tiamat being even worse since the headrest broke on 2 seperate items within only a few months. I myself will never buy any razer products ever again. Their Keyboards might be great, but everything else just breaks super fast and their headset's microphone quality is just embarrassing. Yet, that seems to apply for almost all gaming headsets.
True, on the older model. they've updated the design though and the 2017 model doesn't have this weakness.
I've owned a pair of Logitech G933s for the last 2 years and the only problem I had was leaning back in my chair and breaking them at the swivel on the ear piece when they fell off. Fixed it myself and haven't had an issue since. I highly recommend them. With some tweaks to the audio profile in the Logitech Gaming Software they sound amazing and pinpointing directional sounds has never been easier. I say that as someone playing a lot of BRs.
TrollFaceTheMan I’ve had it for a year and it still works great soooo
You just have a big ass head
What headphones were used with Dolby Atmos?
This is Mini Toslink Male to Male Digital Optical Audio Cable SPDIF Optical Fiber 2 Meter (6.4 Feet). Can you tell me what is the application area for this as both the ends does look like 3.5mm ep-ep but doesnt work with any head phone which I checked out. Would this work with a DAC? If you could kindly let me know its usage. Take care buddy !
I don't understand the difference between aiming accuracy and pointing accuracy, and I've rewatched (the relevant parts) twice. *PLEASE* explain :/
PS: Why didn't you test Windows Sonic?
so the aiming accuracy is pointing the mouse directly where you think the sound is coming from, so trying to get them in front of you. and pointing is in one position point where you think you hear them without moving the mouse.
In aim u get mouse and u try to kill some thing or get nearly it with crosshair on screen while pointing is u get random location and sound around you you point with your finger from where it comes
With aiming, you can "move" around where the sound is. While for pointing, the sound doesn't move. With pointing, you can test if the audio recreate accurately where as sound is, with aiming you can test if it recreate accurately the movement of a sound. It is possible to be accurate with the position, but not with the movement, and vice versa.
@@Elepole aaaah now I understand
There is no such thing as that. In audio realm, there is "imaging". Imaging is the ability of driver to reproduce the location of instruments/sound as recorded.
I switched from gaming headsets to entry level audiophile headphones last year (DT 990 Pro) and the difference is incredible. For £30 more than my previous set, the audio quality is far better in both gaming and non gaming. Build quality is top notch too, although that's already not much of a problem once you get past the mega cheap gaming headsets
Hey bro nice video, do you suggest Stereo or Surround sound setting for games like Warzone ?
I swear by my old roccat Kave true 5.1s, this video bursts that delusional bubble I didn't know I had, thankyou for your input I'm in the process of buying a headset but couldn't decide what to get or if to go dts or dolby or thx or creative this episode helps a lot
Dolby Atmos uses a fundamentally different technology called Ambisonics. It works best if recorded in a multi-microphone setup.
They are total bs because they don't support Minecraft surround.
They support Roblox if that works for you
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@@joshuamarkusmarkwood Roblox gay, Minecraft all the way
Minecraft Surround Sound Mod
@@tommymack3210 before 2014 roblox was cool
What soundcard did you use for the Tiamat 7.1's? They really need a good soundcard, a lot of motherboard soundcards are just not strong enough to drive them properly.
I have the Arctis 5 and it uses Dolby Atmos. It sounds really good and it is quite easy to hear where the sounds are coming from. When I disable it, it sounds like going from a room with speakers to just normal headphones.
3:56 Oh I see what you did there, Mr. "Linus Walken"! 😎
*advertises Corsair headphones on Corsair channel about how good they are.* criticises Corsair at start of this video.
I think that was the point to show that it was just an advertisement.
Yeah right
Gotta respect that
I think that you've missed the point that he made about why it sucked. It's cause he could tell where they were. He was using a relatively cheap non surround headset from corsair. He never said the headphones sucked, just that it sucked that he couldn't tell where the enemies were. I don't think that it's really criticizing corsair if he says that it sucks that he can't tell where the enemies are on a stereo headset that was never advertised had having good positional audio. Corsair has other more expensive headphones that are meant for surround sound, maybe they should've included one of those to see how it stacked up.
@@Matthew-qv4vl yeah perhaps
Where can I find that screaming soundboard? That was hilarious!
The unexpected Loud Nigra used to demonstrate directional audio through your actual sound channels nearly made me piss myself laughing
In my experience, the tiamat v2 are a little worse then the v1 counter part. Not only that, but both the v1 and v2 headsets need to be adjusted so that sound channels (side , back etc) do not sound like they over lap. This lead me to changing the sound levels of each channel on the volume dongle on the headphones. After I did that it fixed the problem of being confused of where the sound was. Not only that, but the high ohm Impedance (144 total load) for both the v1 and v2, some motherboards sound solutions may not cover this load.
Yep I spent maybe 5 hours tuning my Tiamat both mixer and my soundcard settings to get them were I waned them, I have yet to find a headset or headphone I like better I have returned well over 40 different ones to bestbuy and amazon even high-end ones with amps, best part with the Tiamat is the fact you can mute audio channels on the fly so I can drop front audio while boosting rear allowing me to hear people sneaking up on me while still have some audio and visual of what is in frony of me
2:44 I lost it
Same xD
I used a cheap $40 Razer Blackshark v2 X headset with the Razer surround 7.1 software in overwatch as they did, and wouldn't you know it it works very, very well. I was blown away. I closed my eyes and span my camera around like mad, then attempted aiming at the firing robot and I got it every single time dead on. That's some seriously impressive software being done with audio these days. That's just 2 speakers, too.
@Linus Tech Tips
Its amazing that the team had time to include 'Dolby Atmos Headphone' solution, but what about the Windows 10 Built-in 'Windows Sonic for Headphones' solution?
Is Windows Sonic as good as the other solutions or does it have too much variance to even take into account for a comparison?
I have an actual 5.1 (multidriver) headset and I find it much better for positional audio -immersion- than the virtual ones. Like, maybe the positionality or pinpointing the direction of a sound isn't really that much different on either, when it comes to situations where there really just are more sounds coming from EVERYWHERE at once, you get a much more immersive field of, well, sound coming from everywhere around you. The easiest way to experience this is to use Crysis. Just pick a suit mode and feel that voice envelop your entire world instead of being ... just there on a virtualized stereo headset.
2:44 out of all sounds xD
Ohhhh i know xdd
Way back around the year 1999/2000 there was something called Aureal 3D. That shit was LEGIT. It rocked in Counter Strike. I knew exactly where everyone was using a regular pair of stereo headphones.
Very useful! Thanks!
6:10 So Edzel is a 97% gamer while rest of them are less than a gamer?
Alright I'll take it
99% *
@@carvenclabau2431 at least*
@@carsonlight_lapse6394 *99%
when you have 123 likes and I make it 124
some games have hrtf based sound mixes integrated (cs:go, batllefield V, skyrim with a mod and many more). they of cause work with any headphones. there is no point in converting positional sound sources into 5.1 (or 7.1) and than take that signal and convert it to stereo hrtf. much of the detail in position of sound is lost through this. if developers would care they would just straight up output hrtf sound by default like the games mentioned above.
It would be fantastic if they actually told you this in the settings menu of ANY game. When they say "Surround" my assumption is Multi-Channel for surround sound set ups, so that when I have a 7.1 system (or headset) it can take the channel data and send it to the right position. If I knew it had HRTF then I would disable 7.1 on my headset. As it stands now though, I have no idea.
@Rudy AW SHUCKS MY
@@ynthrepic Some games have a headphones setting. Don't ask me which because I can't remember where I saw it, but I remember you got to choose between Stereo, Home Cinema and Headphones. My best guess is that Stereo is just what I says, Home Cinema is 5.1 or 7.1 and that Headphones are using a unspecified HRTF applied in software.
Things like this sucks, as it leaves you wondering exactly what is going on in the background. In my experience the different HRTF solutions available vary wildly. Some doesn't work at all for me, while others work to varying degrees. It might even depend on the headphones used but I don't have any data on this. I'm currently using a pair of Plantronics GC 788. These are a few years old by now and was amongst the first that used the Dolby HRTF and they just happens to be one of two surround headphones I've used that actually work for me. To me the advantage of using these over any software HRTF is that I know they work well for me. I can't promise that they would work for anyone else though. A software solution is however very much hit or miss, mostly miss in my experience. However as almost all game engines produce surround sound as separate sound channels for sound coming from the front, front left and right, rear left and right and a bass channel before sending it to the HRTF I would prefer to have those channels piped to my headphones to be mixed down using the HRTF that happens to work for me.
@Jakob P Coder The reason developers don't "straight up output hrtf sound by default" is because Microsoft killed off DirectSound3D in Vista. Ever since then, gaming audio has been fractured into various 3rd-party middlewares like FMOD and Wwise that are closed-source and proprietary. Microsoft is trying to amend this with something called the "Windows Spatial Audio API", but it's still not a universal solution like DS3D was in the late 90s and early 2000s. If you can find a game that uses OpenAL (usually smaller indie titles or source ports for 90s FPS games), then you need to try out OpenAL Soft's HRTF. It makes Dolby Atmos sound like a complete joke.
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What do you think about the Razer Tiamat v2 7.1 is it useful especialy for Counter-Strike Go? I heard some guys managed to get a really good sound out of it with finde tuning the software
Hope you also tried the HyperX Cloud II. Its not only good for gaming but movies as well even without an equalizer.
I can completely tell where sound comes from with Sennheiser HD600 stereo headphones..
Don't have an issue with my 2.1 computer speakers either.
Every surround sound headphone I've ever tried were junk.
I can confirm that, but I'd say that this is mostly a thing because the default stereo sound is usually just panned clear audio (which sounds quite unnatural on headphones). I find that this unnatural inbalance makes it really obvious where things come from. However, I'd still prefer a decent software based surround solution if it actually sounds natural. I find Overwatch's Atmos to be quite "muffled" and attenuating the mids too much.
Yup CSGO stereo master race. 7.1 is muddy
i have stereo akg studio headspeakers, and perfectly fine, i can tell position of every enemy, even make good guess on enemies distance, and hear steps even if there is other noise (rain, gunfire explosions etc)...
if you have vitual sourround you may have problems in identifying steps when there is extra noise like rain, that lies in the nature how the virtual sourround is created, it basically adds aditional noise for extra information to the ears.
@@certaindeath7776 Did you say headspeakers? Are you talking about the K1000? Because if you are, holy crap, I salute you! My favorite band has a pair of K1000s. X3
2.1 is really the way to go, at least for me. Screw center speakers, because they kill audio positioning. If a sound is coming from the center of the sound field, then the stereo mix will play it back as such.
One more point... We're in a time when even the crappiest of crappy audio gear actually renders adequate audio positioning (case in point earpods/airpods). At this point, "surround headphones" have no purpose and cannot even hope to pretend to be feasible compared to stereo headphones.
Woulda been cool to see the same blind tests done with a real 7.1 surround sound setup
Surposively dolby atmos would be better than the 7.1 system I had. Dolby atmos has height also truely a all direction 3d effect. Headphones couldn't beat my 12 inch sub woofer however. You could really feel the action from real steel and jurassic park.
Wow, great idea of testing 7.1 tech! :)
I was about to buy some 7.1 headphones and was doing my research on individual reviews of the different headsets and stumbled across this video that I didn't watched at the time, even when I'm subscribed. Anyways, you Linus did it again, saved me some money and put it in the Dolby software paired with my Audio Technica M50x. Thanks.
this video is a load of shit. i have a set of tritton 5.1 pro plus and i have tried multiple headset as i am looking for a replacement because the trittons are like 10 years old. true surround when set up properly with the right game and right headset cant be beaten
@@markilleen4027 😂😂😂 you are such a sucker.
windows sonic not covered, the option everyone has for free on a windows 10 os.
@Koro it's actually great and arguably better than Dolby Atmos. Don't trash on something you've never heard of before.
Yeah you want to make sure you turn it on for Windows Mixed Reality headsets to get spatial sound.
You need it on for forza horizon 4 and well my impression was at first crap audio and some bugs where my volume NOB would show it changing volume but actual sound was still the same audio.. I have no idea if they have fixed it since but i had nothing but problems with it.. I deleted forza also that games shite too
Dolby Atmos is way better than Windows Sonic. I've done extensive testing now. It's not free but I'm really blown away by the quality. Maybe you need really good headphones to truly appreciate? Mine are the WH-1000XM3.
@@vandorpemichael are those any good for gaming?
I just got my first 4K TV and now I noticed your arms are WAY hairier than I thought they would be. 😂😂😂
Since this is an old video now, I doubt my question will be answered, but did you have the "surround sound" toggled off for the 7.1 headsets like the Logitech G933s? Just comparing the headsets in stereo mode with 7.1 dts software?
Linus - would you be able to create an updated video on surround sound gaming and include the much-hyped Audeze Mobius, please??
6:19 is where the answer is
Im using a Hyper X Cloud Stinger together with Dolby Atmos for Headphones, Ultra comfy and superb sound
And how's the spacial awareness in games? I'm planning to get a pair of HyperX cloud stingers as well.
@@HadHadHad-A I have to say, the Sound Quality is really good, you have a clear surround sound of your environment! The Microphone of my Pair is dead now, but the sound is so good that Im using a extra microphone paired with this headset.
In short, it is so good, I would use it again if it would break down on me and Im playing high fps games and games where sound is everything.
I own a cloud stinger as well. As much as I hate to admit it, these are more comfortable than my bose qc35 ii (which are 10x more expensive)
Sound is pretty damn good too, with a good mic to boot. Using it for gaming as well as for my office work (skype, webex, etc)
I have the revolver S
[Osu]Overlord Official my sound is shit
Cool info!!! :D I have the Logitech G733 headphones, the problem I am facing is that when I turn on the Surround sound option in the G Hub App, the sound turn into crap in games... What could be the problem for this?
I am looking for a headset to watch movies on TV via amazon prime or netflix which has surround sound. Connectivity wise which is compatible ?
I like my Hyper X Cloud Stingers so I'm fine with these until they go out & or I can afford to go wireless. Originally never wanted to but am finding cords to be more annoying for headphones.
Makes sense when you realize that channeled speakers are an imperfect solution to a completely different problem: filling a large space with directional audio in a situation where you cannot reasonably cover every direction. With headphones, you already have both ears fully surrounded so introducing additional audio drivers is going to create gaps in directional coverage. Any audio engineer has to know this, so the fact that this product was green-lit means that Razer is comfortable with releasing fundamentally flawed concepts at a premium price for the sole purpose of tricking consumers with buzz words.
I would say a simpler and more controlled test would have been to simply toggle on and off the 7.1 surround sound in the Razer app.
Question: for the 7.1 Tiamat headset, did you just "plug and play" or did you actually set up the sound settings? From what I've read, they require calibration and tweeking in order to be used to their full potential.
No mate, they’re just utter dogshit. If you want decent surround sound, get a pair of open back headphones that have good soundstage and imaging, not this “gaming headset” garbage from companies that don’t specialise in audio.
I'd really like you to also address the issues when you turn on positional audio software when the game is _already doing_ positional audio processing. (Example, let's say they download and enable DTS when Atmos is also enabled in Overwatch). I keep seeing people with "cool" 7.1 software and/or headsets that can't figure out where they are getting shot from, and it's just sad. There should be PSAs on what to turn on, and when, for each game.
Until then, my rule of thumb has been, "start by making everything match." For example, if the game is outputting 7.1 source, then Windows should be set to 7.1 speakers, and you should actually have 7.1 speakers. If the game is configured for "stereo headphones" then start by matching that everywhere first, and test it. Then only change one thing at a time. Mismatches can kill your experience worse than cheap hardware.
I miss my "Roccat Cave XTD Digital 5.1"
It was awesome...
Is it possible to tell if the enemy is above or below level with 7.1? Thats the shit i never get when tracking enemy with sounds, which floor they at
Csgo nuke?
Can you make a review on hyperx cloud orbit s? And compare it with Sennheiser gsp670 because they fall under same price!
3:20 we need to talk linus......
"ear balls"
@@neonshit1902 lmao its an Archer reference.
*_HOW DARE HE GO AFK IN THE MIDDLE OF A GAME_*
Jwaffled it is always a Game with only bots
@@nucular9075 thank you, this comment cured my anxiety
...and any thoughts on the ps4 companion app? I use ps4 headset (which has rubbish build quality, the headband broke, as has, if you read the reviews, everyone elses), which works brilliantly. But can you use it with regular ( not sony in other words) headphones? Im thinking of purchasing a set of Turtle Beach.
This makes me really hopeful for the HS80 with Dolby Atmos that I ordered! =)
None of the reviews seemed wowed by its positional accuracy if they mentioned it at all.