Miniatures horses can quickly become a nightmare!
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- čas přidán 16. 02. 2024
- The miniatures horses can quickly become a nightmare!
We get constant calls for us to go and help troubled miniature horses , ponies and shetlands . These little ones can quickly become very dangerous and often badly hurt children and adults . Although there’s lots of laughter in this short video there’s also a serious message to it as well . Their brains are no different to the hugest of horses and all the same training and foundations should apply . Every tiny out there can be amazing it’s just up to us . Our Shop steve-young-horsemanship.mysh...
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I’m always amazed at how fast each horse responds to you.
My Shetland that I got at two and lived with my full size horse is an absolute dream. Recently though he’s had to go live in a riding school stable and the kids hand feed him which I never have, He’s started nibbling which will turn to biting. I have requested no hand feeling . I Hope everyone keeps an eye out. After 18 years of perfect behaviour I would hate to see him turn sour. Please listen to Steve. No hand feeding.
Have you shared Steve’s videos with the place? Maybe a good explanation of WHY equines start to change their behavior would help the visitors understand. I hear that one can sometimes get away with hand feeding a bit IF the equine is first requested to step back, and does so.
People are so entitled. Their 'need' to feed is greater than the health of the poor creature. For many though, education would help as not everyone knows how potentially bad hand feeding is.
Unfortunately, the 🎤 mic is so fuzzy that it's almost a lost cause trying to make out what was being said.
Big equine conversation with a little pony and it worked! Just amazing to watch.
Now if only we could train those parents to take their tiny baby someplace to make him or her comfortable, fed and changed. I understand not wanting to miss Steve’s wonderful instruction, but your tiny baby should always come first, no matter what.
Some babies cry no matter what you do, my older brother was like that, you could do all the regular stuff but he was hard to satisfy and had endless lung capacity. I almost didn't get created because he was so difficult they were not sure they could handle another round.
@@OnceUponaTimeline I completely understand this too. I’m a Mom. I just think if your at an event and have a crying baby that’s causing a lot of distraction from said event, the polite thing to do for others who paid to watch it is to take your baby out until you can get them quieted down. Or, leave them with a babysitter.
@@gypsyqueen3806The best thing I know of to do is to offer any support one feels one can give to the parents and children, even if it’s just a kind word and empathy… Such an open hearted offer in itself has helped many parents calm down so much the child calms down too.
What a rude and bad mother for not taking her baby out of the barn and soothing him or her. the mini's are adorable. I've always wanted one.
My experience with kids/pony situations is that kids should not be left to use their ponies unless responsible and knowledgeable adults are with them. Of course, as has often been said, very often the parents of these kids do not know what they are doing either. They blame the pony for everything and have no notion of why it "just turned mean".
Never work with animals or children Xx
Sometimes little kids rush off like a shot in their excitement too. Was sitting outside with my dog and a kid ran forward before her mother could get out a yell. This kid had seen another older kid gently pet my dog's head and that was all it took for her to decide my cute white dog was friendly, so she ran at my dog head on, then took both of her hands and clutched onto my dog's cheek bones on both sides and yanked my dog's head forward towards her. The kid was going in for a nose kiss and it took all of 1.5 seconds. It scared the eff out of my dog who was also older and did not have great vision anymore. I was just beginning to get my mouth open but it was too late. My dog could not get her face free from the kid so she angrily bark snarled really loudly right in that kids face and scared the holy hell out of the kid. Kid ran back to mom crying but uninjured and the first thing her mom said was see I told you not to touch dogs without permission. Smart mom! Dog was ok too. Just one of those things, kids brains are undeveloped and they have poor impulse control. Normally my dog was friendly but she was not used to that level of sudden manhandling and got scared. This kind of thing is why I don't blame parents who leash their kids in crowded places, it only takes 2 seconds of poor impulse control for a kid to get into trouble.
@@OnceUponaTimelineShe’s lucky she wasn’t bitten. I’m glad the mom reacted the way she did. It’s so frustrating when the dog gets blamed in situations like that.
Small ponies still have an equine brain, so the same rules apply to them as the bigger versions. That little Shetland would benefit from a tail trim so he doesn't stand on it when backing up or disengaging.
Echo sound distorts everything!!!
Awww, those little ponies are very cute and it reminds me of a few of my neighbors who have tiny little dogs....same sort of behavior. Thank you for proving once again, that a horse is a horse of course. 🐎
So true. A horse man once said "a horse is always a horse" ❤
I hate this trend for little cuties, it's heart breaking to see the ills and deformities as breeders try to meet demands of people for small and cute and as for the rise in abuses and neglect.. Very sad. Too many people are ignorant and lazy when it comes to animals and increasing the range of animals that people can have isn't good.
We did it to dogs first. Now cats and horses. Terrible and heartbreaking.
Great job Steve ❤
@@MCrvngraddip2013 Cats horses cows pigs goats and others like Ligars... no breed is safe. We need to stop breeding weakness and illness for the whims of people. The animal rescue places are overwhelmed without adding more. Very sad.
It is animal abuse when gods creatures are misused.
@@deekern4419 There's no need to bring him into it! And what do you class as animal abuse? I doubt you only consume pasture raised animal products.
There are endless rescue videos on CZcams featuring defective purebred dogs and puppies. Unfortunately people find exaggerated features, like short snouts and legs, and large heads with protruding eyes, cute. Trying to breed for such unnatural features notoriously leads to many congenital defects like hydrocephalus, cleft palette, stunted limbs, breathing problems etc. These defects so often leave the animals deformed and crippled, causing needless suffering and requiring extreme medical interventions. As far as I'm concerned, profit breeding for such "cute" crippling deformities is cruel.
One would think, 'Oh it is only a little pony' but they can hurt you, and for kids its not good.....
Thanks for educating people (me too) and helping horses !
Stunning little pony. Hope they continued with your groundwork, he looked so much more relaxed in such a short time. Thank you Steve ❤
I still do groundwork with my 17 yo mini. He understands and it’s fun.
I think the human brain wants to treat these small horses like dogs.
I think they treat them like stuffed toys or pyjama bags.
Sometimes it's hard to firm up when a horse is hilarious. We have one like that who does funny stuff as part of his passive aggressive disobedience attempts. One time early in his training, I got distracted by another horse and that prankster horse took that moment of distraction of mine as a chance to grab the lead rope in his mouth and take off with it like he was walking himself, he bolted off so happy and did a little gleeful buck at the far end of the enclosure still while holding the rope in his mouth, flailing it around and high trotting like he had the world's finest carriage at his back (he's a retired carriage horse). I've learned the high stepping and one sideways twisting buck is his MO when he thinks he's pulled off a good stunt or is just extra happy, it's his gleeful victory dance and he always does it when he's far away and retreating. Of course I had to flag pressure him a bit so he didn't enjoy it too much in the end but it was mentally a challenge not to just laugh and let him get away with it. He really is such a terribly cute and silly guy even when he is being bad.
I wonder if the crying baby is also distracting the mini?
(Doesn't seem the best idea to bring a young infant to this kind of event.😮 ) Kudos to Steve. He's always calm and cool! 😎
IMO it's good for them to get exposed to all kinds of regular noises anyway.
@@OnceUponaTimelineI agree
Definitely agree...its good for them ....my mini hasn't been out in his cart for agew months due to my illness...so I take him for walks in hand...firstly when it's quite...then when the village is more busy...l make him stand and listen...I've had more easy to handle exrace horses ....😊
In my experience, you have gained my version of a “Master Whisper”, with a great deal of experience, kindness, knowledge, & Patience . I appreciate your training methods and sharing them
Love your programs .❤
YOU ALWAYS TKE YOUR TIME AND TEACH ANNY HORSE LARGE OR SMALL==THEY HAVE TO BE HAVE == YOUR ARE SO GREAT STEVE LOVE WATCHING YOUR HARD WORK ON ANIMALS AND LOVE THEM SO MUCH 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Picking up those feet looks like a good case for putting the HORSE on the mounting block!
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I know that! Little but MIGHTY. A friend brought two mini's to stay in my pasture for about six months. They were mean and destructive. I wouldn't even go out in pasture.
I've got the nicest shetland stallion possible. Very polite always. And I hand feed him when I want to. No problems at all. Everyone loves him.
I think a lot depends on the temperament of the horse, some are just more gentle and obedient by nature but others will take mile if given an inch.
Steve often refers to 'know your own horse'. It's when people don't know the horse it is a potential problem.
I owned Toyhorse Lucky Homeboy for a while.. I bet that colt is a descendant, looks just like him . Lucky was a. Fab driving piny, heart of a lion and absolutely fearless. He was so proud of his skills.. definitely recommend driving minis
To those with concerns, the mane one in the clip IS a Shetland Pony. I have one she loves me dearly and doesn’t want me to leave her in the evenings, pushing against me showing her love. I also have a 16 hands standard through bread. The Shetland islands cold and very windy so that is why they are height they are they grow very thick winter coats in winter. Because of their size they were the perfect size to work in the Cole mines a hundred years ago or so. Born in England but now live in Canada.
Still reminds me of the harmless white rabbit from Monty Python’s Holy Grail movie.
Seriously, a kick from one of them can break a leg easily enough … what could they do to a child?
Like you said it’s no laughing matter! And he was quite resistant, especially to disengage. Most of the videos I’ve seen you take half that time to get a larger horse to comply. Obviously the little fellow has a ways to go but it seems his temperament has changed somewhat! Hopefully he won’t be attacking anyone anymore and that perhaps everyone got the message and will stop feeding him by hand.
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Love the collection. I’d seen most of them individually in the other postings. I think the concept that because they are smaller that people don’t treat them like they are horses. People do it with dogs as well! I raise Great Danes. A temper and behavior that people allow in toy breeds could never be tolerated in a Dane. An aggressive temper in any animal should not be tolerated and the problem is US. We create the problem. Thank you for bringing this message.
Yes that's exactly it, the behavior looks less scary in a smaller animal so people let it slide. Another thing is in my area, it's getting very trendy that any rules, boundaries, limitations, or saying no in any way is cruel and mean and you should only train with treats. It works fine with nicer animals but we are seeing a lot of dominant animals getting really badly behaved and then just being written off as difficult and just getting worse and worse because any training that might work, even light pressure, is being labeled as cruel. For horses, they end up consigned to their corral forever because they can't be walked safely on a halter and they have to be sedated for any procedure. You aren't allowed to respond or say no even if they bite at you or body check you so it's difficult to clean their area and their feet only get picked if they are sedated. In their mind, this is kindness because the horse has food, water, and vet care and they refuse to consider any other way of thinking. In fact they think any pressure or such is a form of abuse and those who do it are horrible abusive mean people in their mind. This currently is the attitude at most horse rescues locally.
Mini horses and small dogs both suffer from a lack of training, there's no difference between them and their large sized counterparts, yet their owners give them a pass.
Thanks Steve. This came at the right time for me. I'm working with a fearful pony who couldn't be trusted because he would try to run away. He's much happier now.
Love watching you work your magic with kindness and love for the horse and audience!❤😊❤
Wow, people see this so often, miniature horses and ponies treated with … “awww,” the baby syndrome. “They’re so sweet, look at them kick!” ( or bite or rear!)
They are sweet! BUT they’re horses first!
Thanks, Steve, for reminding us.
I recently saw a film about a horse lover, a
teenage girl, who went blind. She was truely devastated. Her parents took her to a Seeing Eye For the Blind
training school, to get her a dog. None of the dogs paired with her.
They brought in a miniature horse to train … and sure enough it became a phenomenal match. This mini could do anything a dog could do. Pick up her phone, lead her safely through traffic on streets, guide her to school classrooms, anything.
We forget these
little ones have brains and aptitudes. They can be SO happy when they’re taught what to do, and working!
Horses are very smart, that's for sure. Like dogs, not all of them have a super helpful temperament though.
It’s the same with little dogs. They’re not any more likely starting out to be aggressive or defensive but people treat them differently and let them get away with things they wouldn’t let a big dog get away with and it turns them into little monsters. I would love to see a mini horse working as a service animal!
Great work as usual Steve 😀
Always love your training sessions!❤
Amazing as always. Love how quickly you get respect and love from the horses/ponies you work with. x
Great video . I feel people having these small horses and not treating them as smart horses but as fun and a novelty not treating them respectively is sad. This horse was just as scared as your big shire horses u have helped. He was frightened.
I suspect a lot of these cases are fearful of being in a submissive situation where they have to trust you. But once they get through it and everything turns out fine, they realize it's relaxing to let someone else be in charge as long as that person is a good leader .
In my experience a horse enjoys a carrot just as well from the ground as from the hand, so.. 😊❤️🇳🇴
Yes I agree, my Shetland also loves to like my hand just as a dog will. My great big 16 hand will very daintily with pursed lips will lip it from my fingers
Would love to be able to hear what you are saying in the arena
Voice over in cases where the sound is so muffled is really helpful.
probably bc they're so darn cute and so darn smart and people let them get away with murder until it gets out of hand!
IT IS HARD TRAINING THESE LITTLE ONES CUZ YOU LAUGH A LOT BUT TREAT THEM LIKE A HORSE CUZ THEY ARE A HORSE. I SWEAR THEY REALLY LEARN FAST. SO GLAD HELPED THIS LITTLE FELLOW HAVE NICE MANNERS. LOVE STEVE, BIG OR SMALL STEVE LOVES THEM ALL...
Awesome ❤ so enjoy watching
Seen it for decades, giving them sweeties, ruins them every time. HOW CAN ANY HORSE PONY ACCEPT YOU AS A LEADER giving treats all the time? Thats why Nita and Chevy esp is so good true leadership x
Someone staying there with a yelling baby was very thoughtless of them, as this could only have added to stress in the skewbald pony.
Lord love a duck.....1st a baby crying then a dog barking!!
I have a concern about the fashion for dwarfism in animals and that it is spreading to the large animal species. I expect the fashion will pass and these creatures will be abandoned …. well, that is unpleasant.
I too have concern for breeding for extreme sizing or features. Some of the dressage bred horses have such long legs I wonder if they can reach the ground with their mouths. 😮
Humans like to play God and the manipulated end product can be horrible to many species.
Arabian with breathing problems due to over "dishing" of the head, just like breeding dogs and cats with pushed in faces, all leaving the animals to suffer and die prematurely in many cases. Cross breeding different species in the big cat family, donkeys/ponies and Zebra crosses. Poodles bred to dogs with different coats cause many overheating to severe matting and skin ailments. It's so unfair to the animals God created in its own right suited to the job it was created for.
I hear what you are saying - but some of the pony breeds from the UK have been small for a very long time.
@@blackhellebore89 Yes. I was not thinking of the native breeds. I don’t know enough about them to know which ones have dwarfism and which don’t. I was told by a vet that Welsh Corgis don’t have dwarfism. I have not double checked that one.
The man who taught me 60 years ago had a few minis. They were just companion animals.
Totally disgusted at the walls of these enclosures, with green algae dripping down and what looks like black mold all over the lower walls!! Terrible conditions for the health of any animal.
Another great video thank you! Is it just me or does the white and brown pony have something going on in it's hind legs/hips? It doesn't seem that stable with the legs bending out and it might explain the stop/start movements and hesitation to move forwards?
I added some of what Ive seen here on the channel. For exampel one rein stop. That I used many many year ago. When my now 26 year old was young and hot headed. I picked it up again, I also noticed that he is so quick to respond on my heels (English?). I am amazed - I use almost no legs when riding only for steering. I also corrected the putting bridle, halter on, I have gone sloppy through out the years. What more... yes going in to my space. Corrected that. But sometimes when I lead him I get to be in the worst position ever, beside him, even a bit behind the neck.But then I thought.... A horse I had for 23 years. We are partners, I can do that now and then, as a game or a trick? Steve is amazing (and Tanya and Charlotte). Thank you for doing this channel. So so so valuable.
The mini is just as upset as a big horse. He can be just as afraid and confused as a full sized horse. Poor little guy with everyone making fun. He has trouble reading situations due to incorrect handling. Poor little dude.
Miniature horses may be stinking cute, but they require all the same training and care as a full size horse because even though they are small, they are 100% horse. Many people think of them as a cute pet like their dog, but they are NOT.
Hi Steve
Can I ask , regarding not feeding them treats - how about giving them their hard feed , should bucket just be left on ground /in stable for them to go to rather than bringing it to them ?
TIA
Julie
Would like to see the pony tail tied up to be able to see his hind legs as he moves out, because is b it just me, or does he seem to be favoring his hind legs as he moves?
Oh my days. They are silly as they are small. miniature or show pony is a little crafty Xx
What can be worse may be xing with shetland.Our 2 minis had diffferent ways of taking treats.one did with lips other teeth first.we had a policy of mister bucket feeds them.
If you wanted well mannered mules or donkeys, would you simply repeat your methods? Do they learn the same way as horses?
I imagine they are similar, but am pretty sure they have their own ways too. I’m curious about anyone with experience answering your question too!
I bought two min horses once, the stallion had been brought up in a house, allowed on the beds etc, he was a nightmare - had zero boundaries and tried his best to run over my 2 year old child at every opportunity. The mare was lovely and really sweet however and absolutely bomb proof. Needless to say, I sold him on.
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Cute buuut, still a horse mentality. You are an incredible trainer and spot on. I really believe they should stop breeding the excessively small ponies the conformation is deplorable so many are in constant pain from there deformities. My opinion, God bless 🙏
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Welp at least you don't need to worry as much about these little guys bolting and yanking your arm off when trying to hold them!
Who takes a newborn to an event like this? Seriously?!
I took my baby to events and had no issues at all, hardly anyone knew she was there and I got to learn what I needed. I breastfed on demand and had her next to my body so it felt no different than being home.
I always say to horses, if you're not well behaved, you will not have a good life and you will have a bad end. It's our job to prevent that as much as possible. That tiny pinto could kill a child with a double kick to the head. Good thing he's getting trained to respect humans
I had shetlands for years next had any problems .Most of the problem lays with silly owners not knowing how to.treat them correctly hence problems.
between the mic the screaming baby and the dogs.... could hardly make out a word said
Who the heck brings an infant to something like this. Do people not know how to be polite with their infants in the UK??
What do you mean?
So parents just dont care for their kids....
I agree total disrespect especially knowing recording going on!
Don’t know the why she brought the baby, but just thinking out loud. Did anyone offer her any help? Perhaps she had been let down by a sitter at the last minute and was desperate to attend this and learn from Steve. Yes, I would, probably have left to calm the baby. Perhaps some kindness and understanding would have made the situation easier for the mum, baby and other audience members. Sorry for not agreeing with you all, just trying to think how the mum must have felt if she had read these comments.
@@patwatson6468 You don't bring babies to stuff like this where people are trying to learn, period. Did the people in her world offer to help her? I don't know, they should have but if they didn't it's not (or shouldn't be) a problem to everyone else who is there to learn. That is like saying in college that people should be able to bring their infants to class regardless of if they disturb others learning or not. That isn't ok either. With her baby wailing, she's not learning and neither is anyone else, including us. It isn't ok that she made the clear decision to disrupt everyone else's learning. It's rude and uncalled for to make the decision to interfere with the other people that were there to learn too. You don't need this class to continue life, it isn't a necessity to attend this class to continue life. I'm desperate to have a horse again, I don't see you and others running to pander to my desperation. Why? Cause while you might want something to the point of being desperate, most often it isn't required to continue basic life and you're not going to cease to exist from not having it.
Perhaps you could consider doing away w the audio and talking over the clips. I went to share this w some beginners considering getting a pony and realized w out being familiar w your methods, most of it would be lost. The audio is understandably not there, nothing but a distraction.
Couldn't bring myself to watch the whole video with that baby in the bg. This is an serious educational event which I'm assuming that people may had paid to gain access to learn from? Leave your whinge machines at home. I am not sorry.