You seriously can't make it up

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  • čas přidán 22. 04. 2024
  • Not 2 months ago Mark Stone was once again put on LTIR. This time for a lacerated spleen and it came just 2 weeks before the trade deadline.. what fortune! As this allowed Vegas to go out and acquire Thomas Hertl as well as Noah Hanifin. After securing a Playoff berth, today their Dallas Stars vs Vegas Golden Knights series was set to begin and like clock work, Mark Stone came off of LTIR. Even better, William Carrier was also activated from IR. Truly, a miracle! In the last 3 years, Stone has been activated off of LTIR just days before the playoffs all 3 years. So with him getting back on the ice for the first time in 26 games, it went exactly to script. Hanifin, Stone and Hertl combine for a 4 point night. This, after just 26 seconds into the game, the Stars took a penalty. They Knights went to work and guess who? It was Mark Stone on his very first shift with the opening goal of the series! You seriously can’t make it up. The Stars fought from behind the rest of game in what was overall a fun one. I cover it all in todays NHL hockey video!
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Komentáře • 352

  • @imspeed535
    @imspeed535 Před měsícem +34

    I cannot believe what I’ve just spleen dude like this is insane

  • @KateWrites415
    @KateWrites415 Před měsícem +70

    Stars fan here. I just want to say thanks for covering the Stars because it feels like we get overlooked a lot of the time. You're one of my favorite hockey content creators anyway, and I get extra stoked when I see some Stars content coming from you. Im flying to Dallas tomorrow specifically to see game 2, and I am optimistic it's going to be a good bounceback game for the boys.

    • @datriaxsondor590
      @datriaxsondor590 Před měsícem +6

      If Game 1 went on even 2 or 3 more minutes, it would have ended differently. Stars are one of, if not the most resilient team in the league. If Vegas drew a nightmare team to face, it was Dallas. I'm not a "Stars fan" in traditional sense, but I know the team very well from running up against them over the past 2 decades.
      I continually follow them as secondary interest in this league, and ya, if there's a team that can turn VGK on its head and pile drive them, it's Dallas.
      Have a rockin time at G2, bud. 🍻

    • @KateWrites415
      @KateWrites415 Před měsícem +1

      @@datriaxsondor590 Thanks! It'll be my first time seeing a game in Dallas and my first playoff game, so I'm super excited. My family is so sick of me talking about it.

    • @jd3jefferson556
      @jd3jefferson556 Před měsícem

      Resilient? They rolled over in Game 2. Pete Debor is just not a great coach, he's wasting the talent on that team.
      ​@datriaxsondor590

  • @dapete
    @dapete Před měsícem +44

    The Dallas GDT on Reddit is half Mark Stone insults like "Mark Stone drives 45 in the left lane"

  • @justininexile3445
    @justininexile3445 Před měsícem +321

    Once, ok. Two times... could happen. Three? In sports there is such a thing as sportmanship and fair play. Abusing a loophole for a rule that was intended to help should be frowned upon.

    • @o0prodigy4110o
      @o0prodigy4110o Před měsícem +36

      His injury in 22 cost them the playoffs and DeBoer his job. 23 Cup. 24 unknown. There is NO loophole it is in the RULES and CBA. Hawks used it. Bolts used it. Vegas used it. Those are the three to win the Cup w the rule I believe. Others have used it as well. Toronto, Tampa, Colorado, and Vegas are all CURRENTLY OVER THE CAP IN THIS YEARS PLAYOFF Vegas isnt even the HIGHEST. WHO CARES!!! Tampa will probably add Sergachev at some point this playoff and the Avs could potentially add Landeskog. Toronto as well could add Murray back on and they used him all year as LTIR when he wasnt going to get surgery on his hips but Toronto wasnt going to play him. This is so old. All of next year Toronto will add LTIR contracts to build a roster as they have over 50% of their cap dedicated to just 4 fowards!!!! Let that sink in!!!

    • @corymac1140
      @corymac1140 Před měsícem

      What an idiot ☝️

    • @josephstalin4906
      @josephstalin4906 Před měsícem +62

      @@o0prodigy4110o Cheaters will always defend cheating, what a surprise!

    • @thatONEmachine
      @thatONEmachine Před měsícem +43

      Agreed. Fuck Vegas.

    • @o0prodigy4110o
      @o0prodigy4110o Před měsícem +18

      @@josephstalin4906 except it isn’t cheating!

  • @numbnutz9398
    @numbnutz9398 Před měsícem +48

    "Two months ago he was put on LITR with a paper cut"

    • @imulippo5245
      @imulippo5245 Před měsícem +8

      the paper was super duper strong and cut all the way to his spleen!

    • @numbnutz9398
      @numbnutz9398 Před měsícem +2

      @@imulippo5245 😄

  • @carlsoto1747
    @carlsoto1747 Před měsícem +53

    Once is happenstance, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern

    • @noneofyourbusiness6496
      @noneofyourbusiness6496 Před měsícem +8

      4th time will be Legendary, can’t wait for next year for the medical miracle to happen once again 😎

    • @csharp48
      @csharp48 Před měsícem +1

      He returned before the end of the season 3 years ago and played 9 games like dog shit cause he was clearly still VERY injured. 1 goal and 1 assist.

  • @r00g70
    @r00g70 Před měsícem +207

    The Las Vegas Medical Miracles

  • @rapta_gg8059
    @rapta_gg8059 Před měsícem +153

    Vegas Golden Spleens

  • @phillip8132
    @phillip8132 Před měsícem +29

    The nhl is complicit in this too. They’ve allowed this to happen because Vegas as a market is so important to them.

    • @ryans413
      @ryans413 Před měsícem +1

      Time to start requesting medical records im serious

    • @eggsaladactyl
      @eggsaladactyl Před měsícem +2

      The Lightning did this before. Has everyone forgotten or are yall willing to admit you ignore it because you want to dislike Vegas so much?

    • @ryans413
      @ryans413 Před měsícem +1

      @@eggsaladactyl no I remember I’m just saying time to start requesting medical records for all these teams that just happen to have injured players at the same time every year.

    • @csharp48
      @csharp48 Před měsícem

      And who runs the NHL? Oh right, the 32 owners.

    • @Iraqveteran99
      @Iraqveteran99 Před měsícem

      @@eggsaladactyl i don't like the lightning either so.............. Whats your point?

  • @jimc.goodfellas226
    @jimc.goodfellas226 Před měsícem +36

    Frickin' Stone man

  • @mattsewich2651
    @mattsewich2651 Před měsícem +18

    Remember how the Wild and others were penalized for having players sign contracts that were within the rules at the time?

    • @Ranalla651
      @Ranalla651 Před měsícem +2

      The wild have been getting the short end of stick

    • @dallasburgess5329
      @dallasburgess5329 Před měsícem +1

      No, but I remember Vancouver and Jersey, ...with Jersey's penalty being reduced later, but Van still having to eat it.

  • @UnpredictableMoose724
    @UnpredictableMoose724 Před měsícem +13

    Found your channel and watched a couple of vids and love them. Keep up the good work man I'm going to keep watching

  • @zppv5981
    @zppv5981 Před měsícem +47

    Man Stars fans attending games should be coming up with exposing/ creative chants towards Vegas, Stone, NHL, Bettman all involving LTIR. And any team they face if they make it past this round

    • @michalomelka3408
      @michalomelka3408 Před měsícem +4

      that would be friendly fire, because their team did absolutely the same thing with Dadonov this year

    • @blastomanto5687
      @blastomanto5687 Před měsícem +17

      @@michalomelka3408 Dadonov was activated during the regular season and actually played the last game of the season so you’re wrong again another clueless Vegas fan.

    • @dudemanawesome1079
      @dudemanawesome1079 Před měsícem +8

      where's - your - spleen - at

    • @michaelpoteet4171
      @michaelpoteet4171 Před měsícem +4

      ​@@dudemanawesome1079where's your playoff wins and cups at.

    • @SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija
      @SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija Před měsícem +1

      @@michaelpoteet4171LTIR cup lol

  • @rai357
    @rai357 Před měsícem +6

    Per CapFriendly: The Toronto Maple Leafs and Tampa Bay Lightning are both above Vegas in LTIR money used with the Colorado Avalanche not that far behind. Two of those teams listed are also recent cup winners with the other being well...the Maple Leafs. If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at your teams management for not making use of every resource available. Vegas isn't the first team to make use of LTIR spending and they won't be the last.

    • @smyelin1328
      @smyelin1328 Před měsícem

      Say it louder for the people in the back!!!

  • @jtmick21
    @jtmick21 Před měsícem +10

    “Place your bets, yessss place your bets!”

  • @pato655
    @pato655 Před měsícem +18

    Do not forget about the two teams in the playoffs with higher cap totals than Vegas. Toronto at $97,645,821 and Tampa Bay at $93,776,877. Vegas at $92,239,581. Colorado at $90,957,006. Vegas is not the only team using LTIR.

    • @ultimetacooler
      @ultimetacooler Před měsícem +10

      Difference with the Leafs is that none of those injured players magically returned for game 1 and they didn’t have those guys conveniently put on LTIR in time to make big deadline acquisitions.

    • @alohastate8256
      @alohastate8256 Před měsícem +6

      @pato655 No need to defend what VGK is doing. What they are doing is 100% within the rules. All these crying fans that say it's cheating is just jelly of VGKs success. Our GM is by far the best (although ruthless) in the league. I wouldn't want to have it any other way.

    • @WingsOfAnemia
      @WingsOfAnemia Před měsícem +8

      The difference is none of those players are playing. Tampa has $16.15m of LTIR from inactive players & the leafs have $14.4 & colorado has $9m. Vegas uses LTIR to go over the cap, then activates them on game 1. There's a huge difference

    • @alohastate8256
      @alohastate8256 Před měsícem

      @@WingsOfAnemia Are they doing anything against the rules? NOPE! Questionable timing? Yeah maybe, but they are not breaking a single rule.

    • @WingsOfAnemia
      @WingsOfAnemia Před měsícem +3

      @@alohastate8256 Of course they're not currently breaking the rules, which is exactly the issue. The timing is highly questionable since this is the 3rd time in a row Stone has come off of LTIR for the playoffs. It's anything but questionable.
      The good news is this will definitely change in the next CBA since this has gotten a lot of attention

  • @yelling3874
    @yelling3874 Před měsícem +4

    Look, I'm not disputing that Mark Stone is injured. I just think it's insane that he'd be ready just about exactly for the playoffs after being on LTIR three years in a row. There's no way that Vegas hasn't sneaked something in there, whether that's keeping him off the ice a little longer than necessary for cap reasons, or sending him out before he's fully healed. Neither of those is acceptable. They're allowed to use LTIR the same as everyone else, and they should have to scramble for it sometimes, just like everyone else.

    • @borrow4654
      @borrow4654 Před měsícem +1

      Cant play game 82 but can play game 1 in the playoffs 3 days later. Total bulshit

  • @deserttrailscout
    @deserttrailscout Před měsícem +17

    The boos make it even more hilarious because the crowd went completely silent once the time ran out in the 3rd hahaha

    • @alohastate8256
      @alohastate8256 Před měsícem +7

      I also think the boos fueled Stone. He scored in less than a minute into the game LOL. I hope the boos keep coming in game 2.

    • @liljoe31
      @liljoe31 Před měsícem +5

      After the Marchy goal you could hear a pin drop

    • @53block92
      @53block92 Před měsícem +6

      Give Dallas fans time, they will eventually start booing their own team again.

    • @cdanielh128
      @cdanielh128 Před měsícem

      @@53block92 Yeah because we have a market on that one.

    • @RedPillBased
      @RedPillBased Před měsícem

      Supporting trash.

  • @neverheardofyou
    @neverheardofyou Před měsícem +2

    Basically they're having Hanifin and Hertl for free. Image what you could get to Colorado lineup with that "extra cap space" + Landeskog playing

  • @GoStahhs
    @GoStahhs Před měsícem +4

    The Spleen Queen

  • @justjohnny420
    @justjohnny420 Před měsícem +5

    My favorite thing about this whole ordeal is the lineup they iced last night wouldve been an entire 750k over the cap, which isnt even min salary for a player 😂 Internet treating it like they're millions above the cap

    • @FFreshpots
      @FFreshpots Před měsícem +6

      It's not about the roster on the ice. That's not how the cap works. You really don't think it's an advantage to have an extra $10 million worth of players that can slot in if needed?

    • @WingsOfAnemia
      @WingsOfAnemia Před měsícem +2

      You clearly don't understand how the cap works if that's your take. Having a $5.2m defenceman waiting to be slotted in is a huge advantage

    • @liljoe31
      @liljoe31 Před měsícem

      Johnny stop discussing facts! There are men's FEELINGS involved here and they are very upset about all this!

  • @IVEdge
    @IVEdge Před měsícem +19

    I have to cheer for Dallas even as a Wild fan because they’re one of the top teams and they aren’t over the cap 😅

    • @KohaiJr
      @KohaiJr Před měsícem +6

      Never thought I'd die fighting side by side with an Wild fan. 🤝

    • @alohastate8256
      @alohastate8256 Před měsícem +2

      If you like cheering for the losing team...have at it🤣

    • @borrow4654
      @borrow4654 Před měsícem

      ​@@alohastate8256better than cheer for this shit fucking vegas team. You have to either be born in nevada or be a total asshole to support this

    • @datriaxsondor590
      @datriaxsondor590 Před měsícem +4

      ​ @alohastate8256 Because Vegas is a "winning" team, scraping into the playoffs by the skin of their butt cheeks, after winning the cup the year prior?
      It's incredible how little people think, before they put out their 'sick burn' in comments like this. I assume you're one of those idiots that think a 4-3 squeeker is "getting owned", and "the series is over".

    • @dhog3153
      @dhog3153 Před měsícem +1

      Dude, I absolutely agree most golden knight fans just talk trash for a team that has had everything they have straight handed to them, its hilarious. ​@datriaxsondor590

  • @artlyc
    @artlyc Před měsícem +5

    Next year Stone will be out in Feb with a sprained pinky on LTIR and magically reappear again in the round 1 of the playoffs. What a joke the league isn't doing anything with it.

    • @ConReese
      @ConReese Před měsícem

      Because it's mostly American teams doing it. I think toronto is bad for it this year but the league doesn't have to worry about them winning the cup anyways. I'm pretty sure if montreal or edmonton did it the rules would change

  • @kylebaryonyx9478
    @kylebaryonyx9478 Před měsícem +15

    I get that it's all legal. But it's super unsportsmanlike to use IR to stack your roster like that. I don't know if it's because of the ownership or the fact that they aren't a very old team, but they don't seem to have the same respect for other teams that the rest of the league does

    • @datriaxsondor590
      @datriaxsondor590 Před měsícem +6

      It is all legal, and it is very unsportsmanlike, but sportsmanship doesn't show up on the cup. Only the names of the winners.
      If you want to blame anyone for this, blame the league and everyone involved in negotiating the CBA. They are the ones that continually turn a blind eye to this loophole. Or, maybe it's intentional. Who really knows?

    • @MindzEnt
      @MindzEnt Před měsícem +1

      Fuck respect, we're going for the back 2 back son!

    • @jd3jefferson556
      @jd3jefferson556 Před měsícem

      Cry harder.
      "It's legal but not very good sportsmanship." Is such a soft and embarrassing take to have. You wish your team did it. They snuck in as an 8 seed, not ideal

    • @liljoe31
      @liljoe31 Před měsícem +1

      Ohh it's a respect thing now...interesting

  • @TheGameHuntah
    @TheGameHuntah Před měsícem +3

    Dirty intentional move, no doubt about it, but taking advantage of a flaw in the rules. Hope Dallas win that series.

  • @davidshort5947
    @davidshort5947 Před měsícem +2

    If it’s a loophole then it’s up to the board to close it.

  • @Dre0044
    @Dre0044 Před měsícem +1

    Imagine if Sergachev was able to come back during the playoffs lol

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd Před měsícem +1

    Somehow gotta find a way to close that loophole.

  • @brandensimmons653
    @brandensimmons653 Před měsícem +14

    THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!!!

    • @bruceellenburg429
      @bruceellenburg429 Před měsícem +3

      Then change the rule
      Any team can take advantage of this

    • @tfisher23
      @tfisher23 Před měsícem

      @@bruceellenburg429Exactly

    • @JAlexanderCurtis
      @JAlexanderCurtis Před měsícem +1

      I mean Tampa does the same thing and won two cups with it.

    • @trevorconnatser6161
      @trevorconnatser6161 Před měsícem +2

      @@JAlexanderCurtiseveryone talks about Tampa but we wanted the rule changed when the Blackhawks did it all the way back in 2015 but no one cared then 🤷‍♂️ so yall get what you deserve

    • @2mnxffrddfghjbbvcdfh6644bcddcv
      @2mnxffrddfghjbbvcdfh6644bcddcv Před měsícem

      Yup they can.
      The one that has the peso has the say-so

  • @mdavis3
    @mdavis3 Před měsícem

    Should do the Canes/Isles game 2 😳 Crazy win🎉

  • @ssmith4893
    @ssmith4893 Před měsícem +1

    Go Knights Go!

  • @BlueFlash25
    @BlueFlash25 Před měsícem +8

    Only thing I blame are NHL rules, not having cap for playoff should have been changed waaay back then

    • @jiaan100
      @jiaan100 Před měsícem

      Only thing you should blame

  • @Spewf
    @Spewf Před měsícem

    Man I'm so glad he's ok I was really worried........FTK.......

  • @richardzapata5030
    @richardzapata5030 Před měsícem

    & they about to do it again tonight. ⚔️ #VGK

  • @martinbaxa330
    @martinbaxa330 Před měsícem +1

    Definitely not see that coming...

  • @campbellzachc
    @campbellzachc Před měsícem

    Every team needs to follow suit. The only way anything is going to change is if this move embarrasses the NHL to its core. They have been letting it happen for years without any movement on it.

  • @nomadicnovels
    @nomadicnovels Před měsícem

    “k mark what’ll it be this year?”

  • @Fatazz
    @Fatazz Před měsícem

    So basically he's the "Break Glass in case of Playoffs" guy.

  • @zubiecup
    @zubiecup Před měsícem

    Has there ever been a more hated team? The Ducks in 07 were hated, but nowhere near this level. I mean, Vegas has definitely done out of their way to earn all the hate. I'd honestly be happy to see them go without another series win until they quit with the cap circumvention shenanigans.

  • @shawnthibodeau189
    @shawnthibodeau189 Před měsícem +3

    “Ouch my spleen”
    -mark stone

  • @joeford5181
    @joeford5181 Před měsícem

    I have never heard this boos since Dirty Dom started to breathe

  • @Mrsnichols1965
    @Mrsnichols1965 Před měsícem

    Its stuff like this that made my brother hate the VGK. I understand a bit better now.

  • @tobiasfrost86
    @tobiasfrost86 Před měsícem

    Ouch i have a hangnail looks like i need to be off for 2 months to heal mark stone probually

  • @TheYoRealsebby
    @TheYoRealsebby Před měsícem

    Let’s goooo

  • @KEVIN88GT
    @KEVIN88GT Před měsícem

    You can say they Stoned them in their home rink.

  • @nathanday799
    @nathanday799 Před měsícem

    This is truly a simple fix. Any player on LTIR at the trade deadline is ineligible to play the rest of the season and playoffs. How this isn’t the rule is astounding.

  • @Jackyjack655
    @Jackyjack655 Před měsícem +1

    Go knights go knights in 6

  • @robbiekeller1353
    @robbiekeller1353 Před měsícem

    I’d be excited if a team would win the Stanley Cup without being over the salary cap, but the NHL has made its decision, the Stanley Cup is the award that goes to the team that cheats the salary cup the most.

  • @drag0..
    @drag0.. Před měsícem

    VGK baby!!! ⚔️🏆b2b🏆

  • @Farmerb0y
    @Farmerb0y Před měsícem

    Guess who back back again mr February

  • @Mason-14p
    @Mason-14p Před měsícem

    Hertl, Hanifin, and pebble all on the board! Why

  • @craigharrison5406
    @craigharrison5406 Před měsícem +1

    Vegas will force a rule change at this summers GM meetings. They better enjoy that loophole right now because it will be gone next year. The rule was inteded to help teams riddled with injuries down the stretch of a long NHL season. Now that luxury will be gone for everyone.

    • @borrow4654
      @borrow4654 Před měsícem

      Doubt it. GMs dont care about what fans think

    • @craigharrison5406
      @craigharrison5406 Před měsícem

      @@borrow4654 It's not about what fans think, it's about an even playing field for all teams. Not just the ones who have a $10M player who is willing to fake an inury and sit out the last 2 months of every season. GM's do care about their team's chances of winning.

    • @borrow4654
      @borrow4654 Před měsícem +1

      @@craigharrison5406 I'm definitely not arguing there. It baffles me that you dont have salary cap rules in the playoffs. Seems like a total oversight
      Why is there a cap in regular season...but not when it matters most? So my team gets penalized for being healthy now?

    • @thismasonkidd
      @thismasonkidd Před měsícem +1

      Off topic but i love van halen

    • @craigharrison5406
      @craigharrison5406 Před měsícem

      @@thismasonkidd 🤘

  • @chubbydog963
    @chubbydog963 Před měsícem +6

    Dallas fan. Every time the bally broadcast showed Stone on the bench he was wincing in a lot of pain. He’s able to play, but he’s clearly going through something at the same time.

    • @chubbydog963
      @chubbydog963 Před měsícem +2

      to add, in the thumbnail of this video Stone is grimacing not smiling

    • @KohaiJr
      @KohaiJr Před měsícem +6

      @@chubbydog963 He's been out of play for a bit, he's probably just acclimating, but you're delusional if you think he's still "injured".

    • @blastimbre
      @blastimbre Před měsícem +4

      ​@@KohaiJr Vegas living rent free in your head, huh?

    • @KohaiJr
      @KohaiJr Před měsícem

      ​@@blastimbre Go put yourself on IR and come back when you have a better insult.

    • @KohaiJr
      @KohaiJr Před měsícem

      @@blastimbre Go put yourself on IR and come back when you got a better insult.

  • @dannyjackson5356
    @dannyjackson5356 Před měsícem +4

    A lot of teams use this rule to their advantage. Vegas exploits it bc they can. Simple as that. Can’t be mad at a team for taking what they are given. Coming from a Dallas fan btw.
    Not worried yet. If you’ve watched Dallas over the past idk how long you should have been prepared for a game 1 loss. They played great and held back the Vegas offense quite a bit. A few bounces the other way and this would be a different story. Let’s go stars

    • @briankeeley6464
      @briankeeley6464 Před měsícem

      Yea, it's not cheating If the league approves the use of this strategy. Every playoff team should be doing it. That said, it's kinda sad that the NHL allows a team to rebuild itself for the playoffs. It'd be nice to see teams win the cup without using late addition mercenaries.

    • @connorking3022
      @connorking3022 Před měsícem

      A lot of our fellow stars fans are not happy about the loophole I don’t mind because I know our boys can handle it. Although Im furious about the officiating last night it was horrible.

  • @echozero3316
    @echozero3316 Před měsícem +7

    Las Vegas injured reserves PMO!

  • @SSNESS
    @SSNESS Před měsícem +1

    When is Landeskog coming back?

  • @wvknn2709
    @wvknn2709 Před měsícem

    I don't think he "wasn't injured", he was I believe but the way Salary cap works in playoffs is a joke... I get that it's there to stop teams from getting pinched if injury occurs but anybody can hop on at anytime after regular season ends?

  • @AdamXSmith
    @AdamXSmith Před měsícem

    NHL VS the Las Vegas mafia!

  • @m_20198
    @m_20198 Před měsícem

    Its agitating but they are playing by the rules.

  • @michaelwasserbauer4177
    @michaelwasserbauer4177 Před měsícem +17

    At this point I don´t even hate Vegas, I have to respect the way Vegas are finessing the league :DD

    • @Cruz474
      @Cruz474 Před měsícem

      You mean how Bettman just lets it happen?

    • @53block92
      @53block92 Před měsícem

      Exactly, if it's offered up, you take advantage, the option is there for anyone to use, it's not something restricted to only VGK, there are plenty of other teams that use it.

  • @ItsNystalgic
    @ItsNystalgic Před měsícem

    Betman's not gonna do shit. Vegas his is golden love child. Wish I got to sit out of work for 2 months after having my spleen removed. Makes me wonder if... oh wait he probably still has his spleen. Likely nothing wrong.

  • @D3sh_
    @D3sh_ Před měsícem

    The teams can fix this loophole in 2 years with the new CBA. If they don’t, then they are saying it is okay to do and that no one can whine or complain about who does it

    • @maykay9516
      @maykay9516 Před měsícem +2

      The teams have already had the chance to fix it and voted against it, it’s within the rules and Is already fine

    • @53block92
      @53block92 Před měsícem +1

      It's not a loophole to be fixed, they have already voted on it... What is so hard about certain fans accepting this as a fact, yet they still to this day call it a loophole?

  • @missstar219
    @missstar219 Před měsícem +7

    stars winning game 2 trust

    • @lucyvanpelt6470
      @lucyvanpelt6470 Před měsícem +2

      Nope

    • @missstar219
      @missstar219 Před měsícem +3

      @@lucyvanpelt6470 yes!

    • @lucyvanpelt6470
      @lucyvanpelt6470 Před měsícem +3

      @@missstar219 Just like they were supposed to win game 1 right ? VGK wasn’t supposed to stand a chance especially on Stars home ice! 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @missstar219
      @missstar219 Před měsícem +4

      @@lucyvanpelt6470 maybe if y’all didn’t have 37388 players return for game 1

    • @bravexheart7
      @bravexheart7 Před měsícem +1

      Nobody is beating Vegas in a seven game series with that defensive core they have.. this has nothing to do with stone

  • @nishant4866
    @nishant4866 Před měsícem

    i like ham and cheese

  • @TopCop1982
    @TopCop1982 Před měsícem

    In perfect Vegas style: The less glamorous, less appealing, excessive, risky and “organized” influences of Vegas history, and the exploitation of certain industries. Never without its share of challenges and controversies (let’s say, dirt).

  • @Taylor_Gang1
    @Taylor_Gang1 Před měsícem +2

    The booos were hilarious 😂
    Vegas looking like last years playoff run but even stronger 🤘🔥

  • @deadboyzX8
    @deadboyzX8 Před měsícem

    Yup, you nailed it stone timed a spleen laceration 2 weeks before the trade deadline. You caught us😂😂😂😂 31 of 32 teams voted to keep LTIR in its current state the off-season. Funny how you don't call out the avalanche or lightning for doing the same thing

    • @Ranalla651
      @Ranalla651 Před měsícem

      If guilty was a response

    • @deadboyzX8
      @deadboyzX8 Před měsícem

      @@Ranalla651 22 teams used the ltir to get under the cap this season. I know I know facts are painful

    • @Ranalla651
      @Ranalla651 Před měsícem

      @@deadboyzX8 Vegas has done this time and time again. They found a loophole so they are going to take full advantage of it . I mean I would expect nothing less from scums on the coasts. Their fans are just as bad. Facts are not painful, it’s painful when someone uses facts to try and prove their ridiculous point only to end up looking like a dead boyz fool

  • @Canucksie
    @Canucksie Před měsícem

    Canucks comeback

  • @jakenichols2626
    @jakenichols2626 Před měsícem

    I just don't see why they'd make it so obvious by using the same player 3 times in a row... thats what makes me think its legitimate. they couldve used eichel or marchessault

  • @tysonbrooks1992
    @tysonbrooks1992 Před měsícem

    I get to complain about it, but it’s a part of the league. Tampa did it. Chicago did it. Is anybody complaining about them right now that their cups shouldn’t count, no. Also the 21’-22’ season. Mark Stone came back during the season, still obviously injured, and still didn’t make the playoffs. To make that a point in the vid just seems nitpicking and trying to make the LTIR shenanigans seem like it’s been happening since then.

  • @smooothyyy
    @smooothyyy Před měsícem

    The NHL needs to do something about this loophole... such bullshit

    • @53block92
      @53block92 Před měsícem

      It's not a "loophole" when it's written in the rules, it's something that any/every other team can and should do if it's written in the rules. Imagine coaching a baseball game and having a "secret weapon" in the form of a relief pitcher, but instead of using your secret weapon, you just keep average Joe in the game and chance losing because you didn't want to use your secret weapon... How dumb can you be? That would be a dumb move to NOT utilize every advantage and resource you have to win if your goal each game/season was to win, you would have to be a moron to skip over something like that. Let me guess, when you get tired of using this as an excuse why VGK beat your team, you will probably go back to saying "the refs cheated". I hope it happens again next year too.

  • @FlyingAces
    @FlyingAces Před měsícem

    This is just..... depressing. It's so sad to see Vegas 'fans' be so okay with this manipulation. It's sad to see the league 'buying' cups for teams that circumvent the cap. What starts out as fun and exciting 82 games of good, hard, old school hockey, quickly turns into whoever wants to write the biggest check.
    For the Stars specifically, this was their year for an HONEST run at the Cup. For Pavs. For Faksa. For Dadonov. For Tanev. For DeBoer. For Benn. Whether you like them or not, you know that they earned their spot this postseason. And just to watch it get ripped away from them like Vegas stealing candy from a baby is so sad to see what the NHL has become.
    The lifelong fans tease and wonder why new fans don't stick around. I hope this helps everyone understand the why within that revolving door.
    #FixTheCap

    • @shinyuta
      @shinyuta Před měsícem

      damn, you really spend all day around youtube just parroting the same things don't you lmao.

  • @timdumoulin2576
    @timdumoulin2576 Před měsícem

    What's the point of a cap system if a team can just BS their way around it?

    • @53block92
      @53block92 Před měsícem

      Well, let me spleen it to ya. A cap system puts a financial cap on the amount/salary your team has. You can't go over the cap. All teams have these caps so they aren't getting crazy money differences and stacking teams with too much talent, it wouldn't be fair to have all the money and talent in one team, they would have a huge advantage year after year and likely become a dynasty because of all the games they would win. If a team cheats and goes over the cap, they will be punished, there are rules for going over and/or cheating. However, in the NHL there are rules that some refer to as a "loophole" but they are actual rules that allow the cap to be opened up if someone is on LTIR (long term injured reserve) meaning they can't play at the moment but are still on the team. That money isn't reflected in the cap if your team is going into the playoffs, so it opens up more space (cap space) for teams to use up on bringing in other players come playoff time. This isn't limited to any one team, it's a rule that applies to all NHL teams, they attempted to change it but the teams voted on keeping it in place, so it's in place as of today. I know it was a long expleenation but it needed to be said.

  • @TheFusionmix
    @TheFusionmix Před měsícem

    As a Stars fan I'm not going to whine about Stone going out for the two months necessary for spleen removal recovery. Bro got destroyed in preseason and it never settled down.
    Dallas had plenty of chances to put Seguin on LTIR the last couple months with his chronic leg situation and pick up a guy since Hakanpää's been hurt all year.
    And they dont do it. Im not going to hate on Vegas just because they do what my team won't.
    that being said with the way they're beating on Harley, I wouldn't mind if Ryan Suter channels his Uncle Gary around the net like he did last year in the first round.

    • @FlyingAces
      @FlyingAces Před měsícem +1

      I guess honesty only takes them so far...

  • @kevinpeters1596
    @kevinpeters1596 Před měsícem

    It’s Bettman’s team. What do you expect

    • @user-mh7po6rr3k
      @user-mh7po6rr3k Před měsícem

      You do know that Bettman works for the owners not the other way around right so by insinuating that it's Bettman team and he would let them do anything as long as it allows them to win the Stanley means that majority or all wants vegas to win the Stanley cup instead of their team you know how crazy that sounds right

  • @jeffnossan1083
    @jeffnossan1083 Před měsícem

    Poor poor Stars gonna once again get kicked from the tournament by Golden money bags!

  • @Juppe50
    @Juppe50 Před měsícem +2

    Do you really think Stone is a 100%?

    • @ScoobieSwisher7413
      @ScoobieSwisher7413 Před měsícem

      87% actually

    • @jiaan100
      @jiaan100 Před měsícem +1

      69%

    • @liljoe31
      @liljoe31 Před měsícem +1

      He could be 5 per cent and it's enough to scare all the hockey soy bois

    • @datriaxsondor590
      @datriaxsondor590 Před měsícem +3

      Do you really think that most star players are at 100%? When was the last time you saw a team get eliminated, or even win the cup itself, and not come out to announce countless on-going injuries that their star players were battling through?
      Whether Stone is 100% or not, he's still effective. As effective as any other star player battling through injury. Hardly the mic drop you might have thought it was.

    • @Juppe50
      @Juppe50 Před měsícem

      @@datriaxsondor590 Sure, many players are playing with injuries. But in Vegas' case, doesn't it make sense to wait as long as possible to activate Stone to let him heal up?

  • @pablonaghtenandes6336
    @pablonaghtenandes6336 Před měsícem +8

    Isn't this how Tampa one their 1&1/2 cups???

  • @Melagrath_Ren
    @Melagrath_Ren Před měsícem +1

    if I was Dallas and it was looking like a sweep, it would be hard for me as a player to not want to make sure stone continues his injuries in the playoffs

  • @Gagne87Fixxer
    @Gagne87Fixxer Před měsícem +18

    I hate to say this but… if Vegas can do it, so any other team.

    • @john81blaze
      @john81blaze Před měsícem

      Exactly

    • @Mason-14p
      @Mason-14p Před měsícem +1

      But why would other teams do this for no reason 😂 your funny

    • @borrow4654
      @borrow4654 Před měsícem

      You cant do it if your players don't go on LTIR. Shit out of luck if your team remains healthy

    • @53block92
      @53block92 Před měsícem

      @@borrow4654 If your team were true champions, they will overcome and find a way to win no matter how many other players get added to the opposing team. Real champions don't make excuses, they make plays, they find ways to win regardless of the situation. VGK beat out every team they faced last season to become the NHL champs, cementing their names on the cup for all to see. How many times do you think they complained once they tore through all the other teams to become the Stanley Cup winners? Zero, none, there was no complaining as they had a parade down the Las Vegas strip, their fans cheering them on for the outstanding season they had beating the crap out of the other teams that were bickering and complaining the whole time. Just know that LTIR didn't make you team lose, the refs making bad calls didn't cause your team to lose, if your team is losing year after year then it might be because your team is full of losers. it's OK to admit it if it's the truth, not every team can be a winner.

    • @borrow4654
      @borrow4654 Před měsícem

      @@53block92 lol at everything you said. Delusional

  • @nigelcanuck5943
    @nigelcanuck5943 Před měsícem

    The NHL definitely needs to close this loophole! It's being abused and the Knights are the biggest abusers, but Marchmant was the difference after giving up the soft one.

  • @datriaxsondor590
    @datriaxsondor590 Před měsícem +2

    Said this on other videos covering the cap circumvention. Do not blame the teams for using the tools at their disposal, to win championships. Blame the system that allows them to do it. If the NHL really cares about salary cap integrity, they will enforce the cap through the playoffs in the next CBA, like they should have done initially.
    Also, Mark Stone can't put himself on LTIR, why boo him? Do people there think that Mark Stone likes spending 1/3 of his career in the press box, or something?
    Blame the NHL. Blame Bettman. Blame the NHPLA. You know, the people who negotiate and enforce the CBA, and the rules agreed upon in this league.

  • @jamesp.3951
    @jamesp.3951 Před měsícem

    Go Knights Go! Stone scores right away! Amazing!

  • @josephwootenVGK
    @josephwootenVGK Před měsícem +2

    I absolutely love it. GO KNIGHTS GO

  • @waterboxer87
    @waterboxer87 Před měsícem +1

    The VGK play within NHL rules. More power to them.

    • @sachads5322
      @sachads5322 Před měsícem

      Agreed.
      It’s unsportsmanlike but it’s within the rules. Tbh, I’m surprised more teams aren’t doing the same thing.
      They absolutely should be.

    • @borrow4654
      @borrow4654 Před měsícem

      ​@@sachads5322your expensive players have to get injured for you to use that loophole. If they dont, and if you dont put them on LTIR for the whole year and wait until the playoffs, youre being penalised for being healthy

  • @nate8932
    @nate8932 Před měsícem

    Lol, dont be surprised. Its a team owned by casino billionaires. Their whole life is skirting the law, they know how to play a rule book

  • @OFFTHEBENCHOFFICIAL
    @OFFTHEBENCHOFFICIAL Před měsícem

    Well it looks like the Vegas Golden Ltrir’s are getting the cup

  • @weltan22
    @weltan22 Před měsícem

    So?

  • @TopCop1982
    @TopCop1982 Před měsícem

    Vegas. Low quality, dirty, slimy, dubious shenanigans. Or. This is all normal. Why are we even talking about it?

    • @liljoe31
      @liljoe31 Před měsícem +2

      Lots of drama queens are also hockey fans...who knew?

  • @CJ-1776
    @CJ-1776 Před měsícem

    Is it legal? Yes. That argument is over and pointless. Explanations/justifications really don't matter and it's all been said before. That said, any expectation Vegas fans have that other fans will do anything other than despise their team for doing this year after year is delusional at best. Some might be be OK with it, but a lot of them are not or we wouldn't be talking about it year after year. I'm sure Vegas fans really enjoy the success in their own echo chamber, but don't expect anyone outside of it to respect that team for doing it. They can choose to care about that..or not. Doesn't really matter and won't change any minds either way. This is for informational purposes only.... 😉

  • @basilmcdonnell9807
    @basilmcdonnell9807 Před měsícem

    Mark Stone only plays in the playoffs. Makes him a little less useful as a player but if you have a spare 20 or 30 mil...

    • @matthewnoto9380
      @matthewnoto9380 Před měsícem

      Need a version of the Reijo Routsalainen rule re: LTIR?
      For those too young to remember: Routsalainen was considered one of the best Finnish D-men, ever. The guy used to play in Europe (on loan) all year and then arrive with a playoff team just before the games started. He got his name on the Cup twice while playing fewer than 50 reg season games, total, over two years for Edmonton, I think it was.
      The specific rule stated that if a player had played outside of North America for the majority of the season, and the team which had loaned him to a team in another league brought him back, other teams had a chance to lure him away (as if he were on waivers). The Rangers snagged him that way one year for a playoff run, IIRC.
      Yes, that was all pre-Cap and pre-LTIR. And that rule is still in the CBA.
      Another aspect: it seems sort of ridiculous to me that teams who often cry poverty can simply avoid having a player's salary count against the cap simply by claiming he's injured (what is the criteria for reporting such and is it subject to review by the League?) , only to bring him back AGAINST the cap for the playoffs, and to be OVER the Cap during that time, as well, without incurring some form of penalty (like a luxury tax).

  • @michaelpoteet4171
    @michaelpoteet4171 Před měsícem

    I love the Vegas hate. You're not real winners unless you have haters in sports every great franchise/player has been called a cheater at some point even the great one. Its the attention you get for being better than others.

  • @greenhat911
    @greenhat911 Před měsícem

    Don't be jealous. They are using existing rules, any team can do the same and do. Being mad because the same rules your team didn't utilize are utilized successfully reeks of jealousy and envy. It is like being mad because someone else takes advantage of a tax law and you didn't....that's on you. If the rules allow for it don't cry.

  • @3366yerffej
    @3366yerffej Před měsícem +1

    golden cheaters

  • @toedrag-release
    @toedrag-release Před měsícem

    The rule needs to be fixed. Is it cheating? No but only on a technicality. It should be salary of players in the game.

  • @csharp48
    @csharp48 Před měsícem

    3 years ago , he was activated 9 games before the end of the regular season, and they didn't make the playoffs. I really dont know why everyone is spreading around this EASILY verifiable lie.

  • @toomer205
    @toomer205 Před měsícem +1

    Go Knights Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @DiogenesTheCynic.
    @DiogenesTheCynic. Před měsícem +2

    Man what is it with all these haters and "look I dont hate VGK winkwink" grifters not owning up that Mark Stone came back in the regular season and missed the playoffs 2022? It's almost as if it ruins the narrative lol

  • @Chip-hm3ny
    @Chip-hm3ny Před měsícem +4

    Teach your children well, Vegas, he who cast the third Stone is a sinner. They are everything that is wrong with sport.

  • @TheLaxer0
    @TheLaxer0 Před měsícem +1

    I’m so glad the rest of the league is just so virtuous as to not utilize LTIR