"Out Of The Ordinary: Underneath The Adirondack RR"
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- This video features a look at Adirondack Railroad's Nov 24 2023 Utica-Thendara NY "Christmas in Old Forge" special, including scenes in an old cattle pass along with the sounds of the train passing overhead. Also included are glimpses of the holiday special as it departs Utica and heads through Barneveld on its way up Remsen Hill.
It'd be a long wait here for the cows to come home as I believe the old farm has been gone for many decades (replaced by a golf course/club).
Now THAT'S not something you see or hear every day!
Love the history bits, I find those most interesting. Glad to see you and Witold again. Thanks for the video!
Great history lesson & video from Okeechobee Florida.
Love it! Thank you. Cattle pass, railroad, and old dates like 1874 and 1892 remind me of that old TV show: "Rollin, rollin, rollin, ... Keep them dogies rollin". Great video!
Love the history and of course Vitold. Keep up the great content and history. I never knew they had such passes.
I was a bridge inspector for Conrail and inspected this and hundreds of others.
Good ved
Hey rail rambler hope you had a great thanksgiving dinner
Great idea for a video😊
Howard in NC
I will finally be at Utica station tomorrow, I have waited months for this moment, that’s why I love your videos!!
If it's not too late, bring your appetite to Goldens on Genesee Street. Yum!
@@SupaFly10579 making me hungry! 😃
There's another cattle pass just 200 or so yards beyond the Holland Patent Station, heading north. It can be seen from Powell road this time of year, now that the leaves are gone.
Hi from Norwich!
Hello Norwich ! Happy Thanksgiving .
There is one between Stittville and Holland Patent. Near the trestle over the Nine Mile.
Very cool video and enjoyed watching. Have a wonderful upcoming weekend.(Steve)
Hello from Tonawanda!
Happy Turkey Day to you both!
Cheers from Belton MO (formerly Queensbury, NY)
Hello from Pottersville N.Y. ! An interesting bit of local history. Happy Thanksgiving.
Pottersville....Wasn't that once Bedford Falls ? ( I guess that question gets old after awhile )
@@jimdep6542
Why you're crazy. You're screwy!
yes I get that a lot.@@jimdep6542
Good ol' Washington St crossing where the huge Utica Gas & Electric Company used to be over a century ago.....location would be to the north of the yard and left side on this video. They used to get a lot coal delivered there by rail. Thanks again for being out there and hope you had a great Thanksgiving and I imagine your pooch ate well too. Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
Very interesting!
Looks like the diesel engine was burning coal! ! ! Cattle pass was interesting; never seen one before. Thanks
That's an ALCO/MLW for ya. Like a dump truck heading down the divided highway.
Hi from Yorkshire, England.
If you want to know more about the rail from Barrow I would refer you to Wikipedia under the title of ‘Barrow Hematite Steel Company. This gives a short history of this company.
If you want more details of the iron and steel industry around the area of Barrow in Furness just let me know. Furness is the area in the English Lake District where the town of Barrow is situated.
Thanks for the info!
If I'm not mistaken, The new Adirondack engine house is standing close to the original Utica & Black River roundhouse before the new one was built sometime in the early 1880's.
*****Utica MP 16....Barneveld, NY
Info I was given by Barnelved resident,
James Fruscella
"The passenger and freight depot was on the east side of route 12, on the north side of the tracks. The liquor store ( now called Trenton Station on the right side of the tracks from this video) was a feed mill. Lester Hickland was the manager. Earl Gates was the station agent. This was in the 40's to 50's. Passenger train to Holland Patent from Barneveld was 12 cents. If students missed the school bus they could catch the train to school. (information from Bill Hinge). where the old seed & grain building was on the right and the Trenton passenger depot was on the north side of the tracks over the roadway bridge on the left side."
8:20 Thank you for taking a picture underneath of the ceiling in the cattle pass. Those were all old rails ? ! Wow.......I've never seen old rails used that way before. Glad you shared some video of that !
Since you were asking about the origin of the rails built in England, there is an old book called " The Sapbush Run" that gets into detailed history of the Utica & Black River RR and covers history of the Old Forge region as well. ( "Sapbush" was an affectionate nickname given to the U&BR RR by the locals ) It's been a few years since I read it, but I have a feeling the answers are in there, because that jarred a book memory when you brought this up. The is another book on the Mohawk & Malone RR history called " The Fairytail Railroad " that might have this info too.
I'm impressed. 9:39....your Vitold ( sorry I butchered the spelling) handled the train going over quite well. I think most dogs would have freaked out. Did the thought cross your mind that " Well......trains have been going over this for well over a century without it caving in so I should be ok" ?
Great info, thanks for commenting. I wondered how Witold would react with the train overhead. He did just fine, I don't think he moved an inch, lol. Actually, the noise was much lower than I thought it'd be, the cars sounded a bit muffled. I'd love to know how long it had been since cows actually trod underneath the rails. My guess is that the farm went out in the 1940s making way for Bear Creek Lodge. No, I didn't actually think of a potential cave-in!
@@railroadingrambler218 If you can give me a close enough location from where you were at the cattle crossing, I can look on some old maps that show the names of the farms that would be closest there. That would be interesting to match that up. My apologies to Witold for the name butchering.
@@jimdep6542 Go to Google Earth. Find Pit Four Rd off Rt 28 in Forestport. Follow it until it becomes Trout Pond Rd. To the east of Bear Creek you will spot a dirt road crossing the railroad. The cattle pass is located approx 150' south of the crossing.
@@railroadingrambler218 The only map I can find that covers that same spot is from 1907. At the time , that very location was called " Nicole's Mills", just north of Woodhull Creek where you were... and there was a saw mill located right about the same spot as Bear Creek lodge is currently. The closest residence is an "M. Nicoles" showing a bunch of outbuildings which might also be a farm or ranch. On the west side of the tracks, the next closest residence on the same road was a F. Lane and a J. Morrell, also showing a few other structures, but not as many as M. Nicoles. There were no other residences at all on the east side of the tracks. No mention of any farms. What's puzzling to me is why they needed a cattle crossing there, since there's nothing showing on the other side.
@@jimdep6542 I suspect there was pasture land nearby; maybe I can dig up the deed one day! Thanks for all the info!
Hello Rambler! Do you know John Taibi? I'd love to know if he's speaking anywhere soon.
I know John quite well, will ask if he has anything coming up
@@railroadingrambler218thank you! Would love to meet him. I was shocked to learn he was from around my way.
Interesting! As an Attorney, does this sort of passage go 'with the land' for any future access?
Depends on the wording in the deed. I know that some of the local farm bridges were required to be maintained as long as they were used for agricultural purposes. Those that weren't so used fell into disrepair (a bridge on the MA&N near Hell's Kitchen Rd, Leyden, comes to mind). I suspect that an underpass is a different situation; the time & money required to fill one in probably wouldn't be justified.
Hey Rambler, what are the white dots on the running gear, what are they for. Thanks from Mooresville N.C.