BEST "Performance" Mid Length - Thunderbolt Harley Ingleby Mid6 Tolhurst Surfboard Review
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- čas přidán 16. 09. 2023
- Pulling in several attributes of a performance shortboard into a mid length, the Mid6 is likely the best performance mid length available. Features like the performance entry rocker, pulled in pin tail, 6 channels bottom, and a 5 fin configuration allows you to ride it as a thruster or quad or maybe even a 2+1, it's basically a longer shortboard made for bigger steeper waves.
Watch @harleyingleby and Kevin Schultz @firewiresurfboards just tear up waves, it's rather impressive.
Surfer: 5'8" 145lbs
Surfboard: 7'0" x 20 1/2" x 2 5/8" @ 40.3L
Fins: pivot quad fins
Traction: unknown
Leash: unknown
Wetsuit: Volcom 3/2 Modulator
@thunderboltsurfjp
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Had this board for a long while now & its a weapon. I'm 64 & basically surfed my entire life on boards just like this.
You have to get right back on the tail. You'll know it's the right spot because this board will go vertical & or drive.....fast.
As for the hold.... when you're in a situation where you feel like things aren't going well or your not going to make it go full banzai, engage the rail & next thing it's "poof" you're out & thinking how the fuck did that just happen!!!!! It truly is the magic stick.
I've got a heap of boards but my 2 faithful travellers are the mid 6 & the seaside & beyond..... both 7'.
For me, the perfect quiver.
Sorry everyone, I didn't realize that I had inadvertently shut off comments.
Good video Thomye. Enjoyed your surfing.
Had my 7'0 mid 6 for about a year and love it in good surf. I am 6'4" and 185lbs, so it is definitely a short board for me. I agree with everything you said about the board. I like it so much that I am thinking about getting a 7'10" mid 6 as well (partly because I am a few months off turning 70 and I thought it would help with my wave count on more crowded days🤣). Keep up the great reviews.
I swear I saw a picture of a very short mix6 on the firewire post of the board show. I hope it’s a 66.
Thank you so much for sharing, I made a board request for this one many times in your channel, I finally got mine but I still need to get it, hopefully this week, thank Eric for letting you borrow it. Hopefully you get to use other fins and share your opinion between truster and quad on a future review. Now the only board pending for review is the Album, twin fin (twinsman)
Stoked to see the correct number of fins in that board ⭐
Nice video!
I dig this board so much, I got it in the 7'0" and 7'6". The rocker, rails, outline, and contours work well in beach break, which I surf 99% of the time. I use the 7'0" as a daily driver. I use the 7'6" when I need extra paddle power.
Interesting comment about where you're standing. I had exactly the same revelation! At first I had the pad right back like you would on a thruster.
I torn the pad off and moved it forward. Now i have it placed so the kick is right on the trailing edges of my quad set. Now, i can just jam my foot in there when it's time to turn. I no longer have that inch or more of wondering where my foot is.
When i had the pad right on the tail, my rail game suffered because I would often be standing far behind the quads.
I've never had much success standing behind all my fins.
Changed from a 7’ to 7’6”- feels more responsive and covers a variety of boards ( have had CI mid , Ova) I will definitely keep this for the UK winter 👍
From your older videos to now, you've improved so much in your surfing brotha!
Thanks bro. I think just seeing yourself helps a lot.
@@ThomyeSurfs 100%
I had a mid 6 i agree with everything you've said ironically they have come out with shorter lengths now . I ended up riding it as a 2+1 setup in small waves and it went amazingly. Harley rides all lengths boards so whatever he rides he just looks natural on all he's probably just on 6 foot id say . Only going by seeing him in the surf.
Thomye, thanks for mic up re. the back foot.
Great video! Love seeing the barrels and performance turns, especially for a mid length. Wondering how it compares to Moe, Sunday, Seaside and Beyond, etc.? The 7’0” seems like pretty nice compromise in terms of performance, paddling power and still could duck dive when needed. Mid lengths are a pretty diverse category, but a lot of them seem geared more to shorter longboard than slightly bigger high performance shortboard.
Always enjoy your content. Keep up the good work. The Mid 6 is up there when looking at the performance end of the scale for mid lengths but its Achilles heel in steeper drops is the wide nose. So far the pinnacle for me after riding a plethora of mid lengths (including all the boards you mentioned) over the last 20 years is the Lost crowd killer. It's firmly on the shortboard end of the spectrum for better waves. Since Firewire and Thunderbolt have parted ways supply of the Mid 6 will be drying up. One thing prospective buyers should be made aware of is that they have a Thunderbolt logo with tiny writing on it that shows its country of manufacture as China. Considering they are premium priced boards this is a bummer.
Great info. I didn't realize they parted ways. I was wondering why channel Islands m23 was available in thunderbolt. Very interesting. Also I have been wanting to try the lost crowd killer.
I have had a 7'0 Crowd Killer for a couple of years and I love it in most conditions but I find I can turn harder and drive faster on my 7'0 Mid 6.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family ....... Thank you for all your content and froth and stoke which resonates on me because we come from the same litter my friend lol ❤
Thanks brotha appreciate it. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. We definitely need to surf sometime soon. Send me your email. Might be camping in Jan. Cold but fun.
@@ThomyeSurfs appreciate the kind invitation but I live in Oahu lol. I do frequent San Diego now and then for vaca. Only surfed Cali once in my life via 1984 Olympics trip to LA at Huntington and bought my first Channel Islands surfboards at their original shop with only 4 boards to choose from before the big hype! IF ever making a plan next time will let you know and please as you to Oahu!
I didn't expect barrels with that board, great review!
always appreciated bro. everything helps. Cheers
@@ThomyeSurfs Thanks to you for sharing. Keep up the good work mate.
Hey Thomye, please post the sequence to your initial board evaluation, I finally got mine, I was able to used it in 2 ocassions and I love the board. I was amazed about the similarities with a HP board.
Man, I'm so stoked to see you finally got a hold of the Mid6. I really love mine but you touched on a couple of things I totally agree with. I'm 5"11 and 170lbs. I have the 7'0 and I wish I would've gotten the 7'6 or even the 7'10. I like riding a board I have to man handle and the 7'0 is right at my minimum. I love the way the board rides and surfs. Very responsive and it reminds me of my old short board 6'4. Which is why I'd prefer the bigger of the 3. The board is spoon shaped which doesn't much matter I find when the waves are pumping and has power. When it gets small and week, you really got to get up on the nose to get the spoon nose to engage to catch waves. This living in Florida was a struggle for me. Something I'm not use to but once you figure that out, the only limitations to this board is your imagination..I find with the quad set up it's more forgiving with back foot placement but as a thruster you really need to be on the tail. The thruster comes in handy when it's big and pumping to give it more stability and drive. I find tho I keep going back to the quad. So stoked you reviewed this board. I don't know if it's the board or your surfing has improved but you're fuckin rippin man!! I think the more you play with it the less your back foot movements will become less of an issue. Great video Thome. Thank you very much. 🤙
I don't ride midlengths Bec they're user friendly. I ride them Bec the new short boards are like Skimboards with fins. I compare them and midlengths to bass boats and cigarette boats. The planing surface on these new short boards is very small. They fit Pros and skateboarders very well. But someone like me, that doesn't really surf that way, I'm almost forced to ride a midlength. My legs are strong and I push right through the small boards. They feel like I need 1 for each foot. This HI Mid6 gives me the best of both worlds. Everyone should be careful they're not getting caught up in trends. Find what works for you.
Thanks, I really appreciate the in-depth comment. I saw Harley surfing the 7'10 and as usual, he was killing it. I DMed Harley and he said that next year they're coming out with something and the way he was talking makes me feel it's going to be something a little shorter. Good for me at my height and weight. I didn't talk about the construction much if at all, lol. But I do like the fender bolt. It looks like something that would last for a very long time. I definitely may have to get my own mid-6 at this point.
@@ThomyeSurfs I've been riding this mid6 for 2 years now and have yet to put a ding in it, and I barely have pressure dings on it. It is def a durable board. I feel it is also one of the justification for the price. This also will help in holding value on your investment of $1000. I wish I would've had this board 20 yrs ago when I was in my prime as I'm 51 now. 😂 keep up the good work man and keep rippin! 🤙
Hey thomye, could you make a vid on how to start cutbacks,snaps etc please or just better top turn please thanks bro
Nice board! Great review. Been curious about this one. Surf looks fun, where’d you film this?
Cant wait for the 6'4 to drop
I bought the 7’4” HI Moe last December in Puerto Rico , cause I buckled my 7’10” CI Tuff Lite Water Hog. I have the FCS2 large reactor quad fin set up . Very loose , feels skaty at times cause of the wider tail and flat rocker. Taking it back to PR next week. Now after seeing this video on the mid 6 , this shape and rocker profile is better suited if waves become steep and bigger. I am really happy with the thunderbolt technology! Tough and strong it feels, never ever buying a Tuff Lite board ever again , fragile garbage!
Do they still make those? Tuff Lite that is. I think I had one of those before, the old Rat Boy. That board ruined my surfing and set me back about 10 years. LOL
Great review brotha if want more equipment to review I have boards like album js and tomo let me know
I’ve got the moe in 7’2 for most uk conditions but been contemplating getting the mid6 at 7’ to use more as a short board for me as I’m 6’5 and 96kg
Dang. Almost a foot taller than me. That is definitely just a short board for you. It should work great though. Perfect two board quiver.
You did a great job describing the characteristics of this Board in relationship to other mid lengths like the Moe and CI Mid. How does the Mid 6 compare to the Seaside and Beyond? For the spot you surf, which one works better for paddling and performance?
great question. my S&B is 6'8 and 38L. It paddles well. The Mid6 was 7' and 40L. comparing them both, even though the S&B is 2L less, it felt like it paddled better. Not by much but barely and a lot likely has to do with where the wide point is and how much flatter it is in rocker. as for surfing, two different feels. the Mid6 is performance while the S&B is nice flowy carves and flow. really drawn out turns. Hard to say exactly since I surfed them in different conditions but in general the above is my opinion
Mid 6 mini coming out soon 👀
Can we get a review 😁
hoping to. I saw they had the moe mini but it was on the other side of the US. between the cost of the board, tax, and shipping, it was a little out of my reach unfortunately. I would loved to have reviewed it during this swell. but will definitely get to it at some point.
Hey Thomey. It's been a while without any videos. Hope you are fine.
no camera and got super busy at work with some big projects. recently got hold of a new camera so I plan to get back at it. :) thanks for checking in.
@@ThomyeSurfs no worries man. Glad to hear it and look forward to your next video.
Also you GOTTA have a Bushman Flow twin fin with keels highlighted ....... Best board for me ALL TIME! Second is the Cymatic and third is Coil Industries unique epoxy construction via the M30 model!
Hoping Cymatic hits my local clearance shop. Evo there now for like $500. they also have a couple of El Tomo fish boards for the same price. I'll look the other two up.
Never tried the Revo but it looks like a Cymatic 2.0 squash and should be refined and more streamlined! The only downfall of my Cymatic is when there is no juice in the wave it tends to struggle like the Hypno. This is where the Bushman shines in both. My Coil was absolutely amazing with it's "golf ball" like uniqueness makeup where it tends to spring to and fro and never dinged! Had Libtech and it felt lifeless like a foamie. The M30 model was a high performance double wing swallow 5 fin configuration but I preferred the K2.1 as a thruster the best @ 5'6 x 18 7/8 x 2 5/16
@@ThePokersurfer I had a 5'3 Revo and something about the rocker in that short package didn't work for me. I traded with my friend who had a 5'4. She felt hers was too big. Now we both like our Revo's. I won't say love yet, there have been moments of greatness but mostly it feels good and grovels ok. I tried a 5'1 EVO, too short and same rocker issue. There is a 5'2 available and I'm thinking about picking it up. You have any thought on the EVO?
@@ThomyeSurfs never tried one however watching Daniel surfing his 5'1 had too many flaws ....... One being too short for him and two mainly the nose template was too wide therefore inhibiting transitional turns and if you ask me the r&d wasn't implemented enough hence the Revo (sorry meant Evo 2.0 and not the Cymatic 2.0).
Did you like this better than the seaside and beyond for a mid-sized board? Which one would you pick if you only had one choice SS&B or the Harley? I am in the market to get a mid-sized board and never purchased or rode one, usually I ride short boards only. Also, I saw on your other videos you use a solo shot, I have heard negative feedback for the solo shot. Which soloshot do you have and would recommend.
Also love you video keep up the great content!
different. The Mid6 is a legit step up. The type of board you would take out in double overhead waves. With the rocker, it can handle really hollow waves. The S&B work better in bigger softer waves. not so great in punchy conditions. I would not put them in the same category of boards so not sure I could choose one. Personally, the waves I ride, I would rather have the S&B. Not cuz its better but rather cuz it just works better in my waves. Performance is way better on teh Mid6 though.
@@ThomyeSurfs Well said and for me I have softer waves and the SSB works great for me. Are you Going twin fin or machado quad on your SSB? I tried both not sure which one I like better yet.
@@CoryMaxBernhardt I've only tried the Machado Quads. I should try some shorter pivot type quads. With the longer rails and swallow, it should go really good.
what was your favorite fin setup for going vertical with this board? Thanks
I only really tried it so far with the quad reactors. Almost feel like it needs carver rear fins.
@thomyasurfs do you use the most updated version of the Soloshot? If so how’s it working out for you? I had the original version and it lost tracking all the time. I’m not sure I want to invest that money into another one if it doesn’t work properly.
No, I am still on the solo shot 3. Will likely upgrade to the 3+ once it breaks.
Have you tried the updates for the tag? Mine does that too but after I update the tags they seem to be okay. It's like the satellites change positions
@@ThomyeSurfs I tried the updates but still had problems. I ended up selling it. I probably will get the 3+ and hope for the best.
@@dannya.4325 so bummed that after all these years, soloshot is the only company making such a product. I would have thought by now, there would be competitors.
Yo Thomye, great vid, I know this in HB, but where in HB?
I'll say way north.
@@ThomyeSurfs Sweet, I gotta head over there, I'm a 5'3, 125lbs newbie with a 7'2 fish. I ride at San O and Doheny since I live in south OC. Some day I'll head over there. Thank you for all your vids
@@volcombry right on. Hit me up. More than happy to meet you. Cheers
Hey Thomye, awesome review! Could you tackle the new puddle jumper sting next? And if you were to pick one, which size would you go for? Thanks! 😄👍
I definitely want to test that board. But it's a matter of actually getting hold of one. Currently I'm out of funds so I've been borrowing boards. And shapers don't seem to be all that interested in loading boards out for review unless you are a big social media influencer. I wonder if Noel Salas will review that board. I like the looks of it and I would really like you test it out.
This looks like the most high pro mid on market. Does it work just as well as thruster? Looking for a speedy hi pro mid for east coast hurricane swells which carry lots of water so want good hold on turns and prefer thrusters, especially on my backhand
I didn't try it as a thruster. I know most think it should be ridden as a quad. I found myself surfing it forward a bit, my back foot never really went far back enough to merit a thruster. I figured it might be too tight for me if I surfed it as such. I thought maybe a large front with a small rear or even a stabilizer rear. Anyways, I might try it, my friend hasn't asked for the board back so if the swell gets any good soon, I'll try it.
@@ThomyeSurfsI reckon being 7ft this would work better for someone taller regarding feet placement but would love to hear how you like the mid in bigger or punchier waves say head high ish as a thruster. My concern is whether the center fin is over the channel and therefore would fin be slightly bigger in middle but prob don’t matter for me as an average surfer. I think this was the case with center fin on the new revo so it was recommended as a quad. Wonder if same issue with mid6
@@yl7679 i think the center actually concaves vs V's at the center. I noticed that about the Revo too but didn't think about the enlargement of the center fin. In fact, that makes a whole lot of sense cuz I did try the Revo as a Thruster and it was super tight. I thought maybe it was just the fins I picked but I distinctly remember it feeling super sticky.
I don't think that will be the case with the Mid6 though. it's more traditional channels and not tomo channels. What's funny is how different the Revo is from the Evo regarding bottom contours.
Anyways, Regarding the Revo, I love that board as a 2+1, smaller trailer fin. I will try and get it out as a thruster. Harley says quad but I have seen Kevin Schulz ride it as a thruster and rip on it.
@@ThomyeSurfs thx mate. And yeah I liked the original evo and was looking to acquire the revo but decided against since the bottom changed and it won’t work well as thruster.
@@yl7679 I recently got on an EVO but I think the one I rode was too short. 5'1. Made the rocker feel funny. I had a one-off 5'3 Revo which felt the same way, off, but went to a 5'4 and now it feels much better. I'm thinking the 5'2 EVO is the right length for that board. not sure though.
Still waiting for the Cymatic review let alone a TRUE twin fin ....... Hands down best twin AND surfboard period is the Bushman The Flow twin!
I haven't come across one yet but hopefully soon. I did manage to get hold of an Evo and Revo. so that will be coming soon, once I get it out a few times. I'll have to look into the Bushman The Flow. Sounds interesting. :)
@@ThomyeSurfs trust me you know me this is THE ONE ....... I'm so in love and married lol
@@ThePokersurfer dang... I checked it out, online pics that is and it looks pretty sweet. doesn't seem like something that i'll find easily unless I order it. zero surf funds at the moment, been putting away for the GWT (Great White Twin), not sure it is a real board yet but supposed to release in November. Also have some family vacations lined up that completely drained me. But you think that twin over the plasmic or twinsman?
@@ThePokersurfer that thing looks so beefy
@@ThomyeSurfs honestly never tried either but tried many true twin fins out there since Covid!
they need a 6'8 6'10 in mid6
I've made my case with Harley. I sent him a message. Although it doesn't seem like they plan on doing anything with that, he did mention they have some really cool things happening next year. I saw a promo video that looked like there was a smaller board, a new model, in the works. :) fingers crossed.
@@ThomyeSurfs I’m sure you’ve seen Harley’s new Mid 6 mini and Moe mini… all the smaller lengths and liters you wished for (and even smaller) (and great two reviews btw)… SO, now the question to you is that you get to pick one Mid 6 mini (6.4 or 6.8) and one Moe mini (6.6 or 6.10), what dims you picking? or would stay with 7.0 and 7.2 respectively? interestingly the 6.8 Mid 6 mini is 1L less than the 7.0, but adding a 1/16 of thickness-worthy tradeoff IMO. Honestly, I want to sell my 7.0 and 7.2 and get all four of the mini dims for different conditions 😂. I’m 5.10, and like you, always wanted smaller dims, but now I have too many choices!
@@rjcplus9 Most definitely getting the 6'4 and 6'6 respectively. I do like how he kept a bulk of the volume. I was doing the math and thought they might not have enough volume if he kept the proportions. I told my wife, that it was only fair that I get both since I reviewed their older brothers. Can't ignore the little siblings. :) She rolled her eyes at me.
So is the S-Boss on your radar ?
I tried to demo a few times, but every day I got my hands on the board, the surf didn't cooperate. From what few waves I could tell, it reminds me of the Dominator (original round tail). Still open to review it once I get through some of my other loaner boards.
Is that vacouver, bc??
No. But I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to. Are you asking about where I'm surfing?
@@ThomyeSurfs yes
@@sweendawg7274 it's southern California, a state beach on the North end of Huntington
I'm looking for a new performance mid. Do you have any advice for me? i'm looking at the mid 6, CI mid, Ci m23 and Ci mid twin
For straight performance I would say the mid-6. Just the thin set up alone although the m23 is likely very similar. See I mid and the CI twin I think are in a different category. The CI mid is a great retro cruiser fun carvey board but not high performance. But it also depends on what you define as performance. The twin is probably more performance but it's still a twin so a different feel all together
How does this compare to the mid strength?
I haven't tried the midstrength yet. But off the top of my head, it's a smaller package. I will have to investigate.