Activision is doing WHAT with microtransactions!?
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- Activision has been granted a patent that will help them manipulate you into buying micro-transactions even more than they already do!
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The sorry excuse of "don't buy them then" is officially dead if this comes to fruition
I used to feel that way, but now I agree, Danny.
That mind set has always been bullshit. As far as I'm concerned you're cheating if you buy microtransactions
"It's just cosmetics. You don't HAVE to buy them. You casual want all the characters as you buy the game, we pros know you get 1 and have to play or pay for the rest". All those fucking idiots who have said those things have caused this. We are going to go from just cosmetics and optional (or thru a huge grind like the Shadow of War ending) to mandatory to even fucking be able to draw some enjoyment from the game.
"Here, go play some online matches with your starting gun that does 1 damage, but you'll be matched exclusively against guys with the paid for gun that does 50 damage to your 55 health pool. Have fun"
that excuse was already dead after it was first used, people were just waving its corpse around
+Blood Rayne This attitude is what sucks. "Oh you don't like it? Well I don't but I also don't mind, so don't buy it". What will we do when it becomes the norm? We simply stop playing games because 75% didn't "mind" and it became the norm so now every game has the 60 dollar barebones version and the 60 dollars + microtransactions bullshit full game?
You know you are King of the DirtBags when you try and PATENT the worst and most hated part of the gaming industry! Activision outdoing themselves. Bravo!
Jacob Smith well at least they are the only one to do it
The only ones? Until now, my friend................until now.
This will go on and this will work for Activision. The funny thing is, people may complain about microshits but in the end, some of them will jump into the microshit train. This will support Activision and if it works, i can almost guarantee that the next company will do the same like...............EA. And then the next and the next.
People still dont get that voting with their wallets destroys microshits. They instead, just accept and support it, which is destroying a big part of gaming.
Same for crappy as EA: shutting down companies for not doing multiplayer/lootbox focused games:
latest example visceral games
Jacob Smith do you think video games are made for free?
Boring rays good on them they had the balls to go against EA ass hats better then having another sw games with micro transactions shove in our faces
That has finally done it for me, I won't be playing any multiplayer in triple a games that have loot boxes. Complete manipilutation.
The only place Loot boxes are acceptable are games that are otherwise free to play.
Pillars of Eternity is a free to play rpg game which you can easily finish without buying anything. they get money only from aesthetic items which have no consequence in the game. kudos to those developers
PSVR World
i really hope u do this and dont buy anymore of those triple A ripoffs cause this needs to stop goodluck to u guys.
A part of me wanted to say that the loot boxes in Overwatch are acceptable, but twice now, I’ve played for the entirety of an event, and not received the items I wanted through just playing, which is obviously a way to motivate you to drop cash. Disappointing that the loot boxes aren’t tied to how well you play.
Lootboxes are coming to singleplayer games too, you know.
I swear Battlefront already did this, I keep on getting killed by DLC weapons and heroes
2015 BF?
Dylan Pearce-Taylor no shit Sherlock It's an EA game
Dylan Pearce-Taylor You may just be shit at it.
But the difference is u can buy a season pass or "premium pass" and get EVERYTHING in bf including maps. (I know they have camos but this doesnt really affect gameplay) Cod has it where u buy season pass then include guns that u must buy with micro transactions or have luck that revolves around a gambling marketing technique. *This is what we mean by micro transactions* its the same thing that made candy crush so popular and "addictive" for older generations. I wrote a paper in college about it.
Dylan Pearce-Taylor so? Non DLC players destroy with non DLC heroes
Seems like once these -developers- publishers get too big, they decide "Fuck everyone, we're gonna do what we want." Thankfully there's tons of small developers out there making great games. To hell with these AAA -developers- publishers that think they're invincible. I don't need to play these bullshit MP games that milk people of their money. I'll put my money into the small developers that still care about their games and their fans because they depend on our support.
WoodyPlaysGames Activision isn't, if we think of it, a developer. They are a games publisher and, though I'm a software developer and not specifically a game developer, I refuse to be lumped up with these kind of sewage refuse.
It's not developers it's the bagel eaters who are at the top implementing these practices.
Thank you Jim26D, people should start knowing the difference between publishers and developers if they're going to start criticizing any of them.
My apologies. I used the wrong title. Regardless, I won't be supporting Activision or any of the other big name publishers that think this practice is the future of gaming.
WoodyPlaysGames Thank you, apology's accepted. Sorry for getting triggered, there's just too many people hating that don't know who to hate.
"this is not implemented in any game"
yeeeeaaah, suuurrre it isn't
TheNzFox Yet.
Its not implemented yet its pretty recent
only test version in some games
EA and Activision welcome to my list of pirated games
YET
No, it's not the same thing. The patent has been accepted recently, but that just means that now it has protection. There's no reason why it couldn't and hasn't been used before that date. There are many products, both physical and software, that are sold with the "Patent Pending" on the item.
This technique could have been used since 2015, or earlier. Could have been implemented far sooner than that.
At this point, I'm getting ready to stop gaming altogether. Its time for all of us to not only find more cost effective hobbies, but vote with out hearts and wallets.
Laitharex or buy games with non pay to win microtransactions like Destiny 2 or Overwatch
Gaming is life
Eventually we all will switch to PC and play old games not becouse PC is better and cheaper but becouse of all the console bullshit
Laitharex my dealer says drugs are cheap 😃
Legate Alucard i swear ps4 is my last console, i will buy a pc and support indie games, fuck AAA.
My fellow gamers and consumers, STOP SPENDING YOUR MONEY ON SEASON PASSES, PRE ORDERS, AND MICRO TRANSACTIONS. We as consumers need to hold these companies "feet" to the fire and not let them get away with these pathetic practices.
THE GAMING INDUSTRY (AAA) HAS LOST THEIR SHIT. Everyone is trying to outdo each other in who can get the most hate...
dude there is something call
"Indie Studio"
"AA Games"
"Some AAA Games is still awesome"
Those three is still amazing, so just support those two instead of big bloated AAA games.
AA games and indie start ups will fill the void.
This means more games like Destroy All Humans and Stubbs the Zombie.
I’m actually fine with the trade off 😏
Sumit Shrivastava I doubt it, but maybe you're right, I'm just waiting to see if rockstar adds loot boxes to rdr.
Triple AAA games are just a description like Hollywood blockbuster.
Creation club is still up there.
Once again lads; if people are getting angry at you for keeping the gaming community constantly up to date and informed of the shitty practices that DO hurt them & the game industry, their anger is misdirected. It should be directed towards the companies responsible for these practices, until either their failure as a company or their decision to change their ways becomes the good news we're all waiting for.
*Don't shoot the messenger for what's in the message!*
amen !
Preach my good man! Preach!
That is a reasonable statement, but you have underestimated the lack of self awareness many who consume the video game media have.
The funny thing is they don't care we can run news story like this all day yet majority of players will buy their games no matter if they know this happening. Just like everything else in this world majority of people are ignorant not stupid but ignorant. There's a difference.
Stale Lament true. I didn't realize this until after I started watching CZcams gaming news and talking about it to other players in game. Most players I've spoken to have no idea what's going on.
Stale Lament however if they developers don't make their money back because enough people didn't buy it and the ones that did only half are using micro transactions then you're looking at a huge net loss. Any company takes notice when this happens and if it continues to happen. But like you said most people buy the games anyways. We just need to get enough people to not buy them
malefic1349 yes exactly you took the initiative to find out what goes on behind the scenes of something you enjoy or support. By that you are using your own brain and judgement. Thinking for yourself and not just jumping on something that's new and shiny so to speak. I just wish more people had the drive or curiosity to see how things work and how we get manipulated all the time.
Gutenburg100 Yes i agree with what your saying. Developers need to make money and always need to find ways to help support the people who work for them as well. But at the same time their are ethical ways to do it and unethical ways. Activision chose the latter. "A man with greed in his heart will always be poor. No matter if he own's the whole world, for he will look to the stars and always see more."
I think that comes with more exposure to the issues that plague the gaming community.
Here's the thing I've noticed with the "micro-transactions don't hurt anybody" folks and other free-market aficionados: they have an astounding lack of foresight when it comes to the snowball effects of the implementations of seemingly harmless features that game developers/publishers want to charge money for. Sure, buying pure cosmetics for your character, in and of itself, may not do anything to affect game play, but that's just a stepping stone for what is to come.
Another mind-boggling thing I notice among these same folks is the astounding lack of recognition of the power of marketing psychology and disregarding its potency with "no one is forcing folks to buy micro-transactions." This is just a microcosm of the free will argument (short version: free will is an illusion, check out Sam Harris for more on this). The folk in advertisement recognize the power of influence and know how to push people's buttons to get them to buy their shit (which is why consumerism exists whereas it didn't before the 20th century).
Features that are locked behind a pay-wall are there for their benefit, not yours, and they will fuck with your head to do so, all while convincing you that "I chose to do this, they didn't MAKE me do it." The technicality of the lack of sheer force to extract your funds is not the point, as this patent demonstrates that their methods are becoming more and more coercive over time.
Ronwise Gamgee If free will is an illusion than the folks who buy microtransactions are automatons who have no choice behind their purchase. They cannot learn from their mistakes and are predisposed to buy microtransactions until they are no longer able to financially. Activision has indeed found a nice vulnerable cash cow.
Don't get me wrong, i hate micro transactions as much as the next guy but this dude sounds like a complete idiot. There's no mind control, free will isn't an illusion. Obviously I don't have any issues with it because I play micro transaction games and don't buy any of them. I've made no purchases at all. It's about impulse control on the consumers end AS WELL as the company. Look, if you have a company and something you do WORKS AND SELLS why wouldn't you keep doing it?
the shit their doing is underhanded, yes. Completely fucked up, yes. But gotta remember, the consumer has to have some degree of impulse control, because obviously this method is successful regardless of everyone bitching about it...it sells. Maybe if you DIDNT BUY THE TRANSACTIONS OR DIDNT BUY THE GAMES THAT HAVE THEM..guess what..it wouldn't exist. Because the marketing team would realize people don't buy them and they'd remove it.
Low key Psychological manipulation HAS to be against the law... is it?
No, because then they would have to ban all advertising.
But this isn't just advertising. It's like advertising coke by taking away all pepsi you'd see.
Akira Kurusu Nope. Not the government's job to protect morons.
Peasham The problem is those morons end up giving in to these microtransaction bullshit and that gives publishers more and more reason to continue their shitty practices.
This is funny you metion that do you remember guys when studios put 1sec coca cola clips into the movies your eyes didnt register it but your brain did and when you came out of the cinema there was a wagon who sold some coca cola
So what you're saying is. It's no longer pay to win. It's pay to actually be competitive... This is beyond a joke
Pay to not get beat up, doesnt that sound familiar?
Spacefrisian wtf game developers are like like mafia nowadays???
Mobile gaming has long used premium currency to buy safe time for your base/city/whatever.
Then MGS5 took it mainstream...
But yeah, this is really pay to not get worked versus flat out extortion. But at least extortinists are upfront about jacking you. This system just subtly throw you into games with premium spec'd players so you'll be more likely to get worked and buy gear out of frustration. In some ways, it's more evil and dishonest.
So you're basically paying protection money. Activision are the mafia.
Let's keep it as ,don't pay at all.
And to think on some parallel universe, gaming companies are not greedy, and put their hearts into the games, microtransactions are considered felony, and people are not stupid nor toxic.
Need a time machine m8
back to 2009
CD Project Red
so basically matchmaking used to be about bringing together people of a similar skill so as to create a fair and enjoyable playing experience, but now matchmaking means deliberately creating scenarios where players will find themselves being pounded into the dirt by experienced players thus creating an UNFAIR and UNENJOYABLE playing experience. Awesome. Keep on buying activision games, people, you deserve it.
I mean I genuinely don't care about this, the ONLY people who will be upset by this, are the people who are directly RESPONSIBLE for this because they're the ones that buy Activision games and encourage this bullshit behavior. The tears are only sweeter when you realize that the people upset now are those very same people that called those of us who pointed out how shit Activision's behavior was and how you shouldn't buy their games, whingers and self entitled losers and that you can do whatever you want with your money and that its all good and fine because you're having fun enjoying the experience. Well you did, and this is what you got for it... A company and a range of products that now think of you in the exact same way that you deserve to be thought of. Weak willed cash-filled wallets to be exploited. These videos about how shitty publishers are being are no longer a call to action, but rather a chance to laugh at the gaming environment the GAMERS (not the publishers, this is all YOUR fault) have created for themselves.
You can't spell "GAMBLING" without "GAMING"
Terence Teh underrated comment
Ha!
Now tell your congressman/MP/parlementslid/member of parliament/senator etc. Best. Pun. Ever. (Well, at least best pun ever related to this microtransaction b.s.)...
ironically, this patent might actually have a very thick silver lining; they're monopolizing a known shitty practice, it could implode the AAA industry through legal battles over other similar practices, while the more clever indies stay unharmed... since they simply sell good games that don't rely on malicious customer exploitation.
Fuck it. I'm going to Vegas. I don't need these "games" to get in the way of my gambling.
EA: man everyone really hates us at the moment
Activision: hold my beer
EA closing visceral is pretty close up there
Inkswitch yesssss
True dat
Fifa Ultimate Team - I rest my case
Scorpius yeah. Fuck them all
The whole point of playing video games has gone completely out the window. Straight up pay to win now. No skill needed. Don't even bother trying to be good, just pay for your wins.
DxG ToxjQ In other words, they just want as much of our money as they can get and they are using a pay to win model to get it.
DxG ToxjQ Or if you don't have enough money to buy your wins.
DxG ToxjQ But all of those things still require you to practice and work hard to get better. They still require you to have skill to win. Bill Gates couldn't be a professional athlete no matter how much money he spends.
With pay to win all you have to do is spend more money to be guaranteed your wins. You don't have to practice or work hard or have any skill at all. You just have to have money.
DxG ToxjQ Blah blah blah. The fact still remains that you will have to spend more money on a game you have already purchased or you will be at a disadvantage. And yes a single loot crate does not guarantee you a win. You might get absolute garbage from it and have to spend more money to try again.
You are wrong. Obviously you have disposable income and are looking forward to taking advantage of those who are less fortunate.
I'm not replying anymore. You are wrong and the vast majority of gamers will agree with me.
Bob McKenzie yeah thats not true. For Honor requires skill. It has gear stats which increases damage etc yes you can upgrade it with in game currency which you can buy. But a few months ago I fought a 9 round duel against a dude with max gear stats to prove that gear stats dont matter if you suck. I won 5 rounds in a row, winning the match with a character which had no gear at all, just the sucky default gear.
This sounds like a dystopian Sci fi horror movie
Yeah we were saying this in the office. Anything sneaky and manipulative designed to make you spend money without realising it is pretty unsettling.
Sneaky psychological ways of getting us to want and then buy junk is not sci-fi, its part of modern marketing. "Instagram Influencers - "Lookwhat I got today!!" hashtag item " Don't mention it was a "gift" from a company rep. advert tropes like the guilty parent that doesn't use the anti-bacteria mop and lets their child sick, and the PR Media release package sent to cash/time strapped news outlets in the hope they will run the media release/video word for word.
The wording is also creepy. This is not implemented in any games. Its probably the beta version of it in the current games I bet.
Mike's a replicant?
Sura Ventri Informing me that your shiny new product is endorsed by an "instragram influencer" is a great way to get me to *not* buy your product.
We are living in a Cyberpunk future now.
Seeing as I NEVER and will NEVER buy Activision games, this seems like a GOOD thing as this patent stops this (don't think a word exists to describe this scumbaggery) practice happening in all games. So....... Thanks Activision...... I guess......
Digital mobsters...they give you protection by beating you and you have to pay them for nothing. Although they are to lazy to the beating themselves so they have those who pay them for said protection beat up others.
Last game I bought from them was CoD BO3 and I mean LAST. CoD BO3 started as a nice game with loot boxes that you can only buy from earned credits by playing games, but then they added CoD points that you can buy from real money. First it was only cosmetic that was "ok" but then weapons came in the loot boxes and all the weapons in there are way to strong compared to the normal weapons.
Problem is if Activision are successful with this then it paves the way for all the other companies to follow. Yeah sure it might be patented, but you can guarantee other companies *looking at you EA* will develop their own ways around the patent so they can implement this bullshit into their games too.
Even if you don't buy their games, the other idiots will buy it and that's the problem...
Yes, but he isn't affected himself if this is patented, other devs have harder time using the same system.
Lol this is precisely why I play exclusively single player story driven games like "The Last of us" or the "Bioshock" franchise. To me gaming is no longer about giving players a "fun" video game but a highly addictive one where the ceo's who own said companies like activision can make nauseating amounts of money using these micro transaction techniques. If you actually give a fuck then make a statement by not playing them or games like them, or you can play their games.
Ben Laux same. I’ve been only playing single player story driven games for years for this exact reason. No one seems to understand that pay to win goes away win people stop paying period
Ben Laux for the amount of people who try and make a statement their are twice as many who will not.
MT's are now creeping into single player games as seen in Shadow of war. No place is safe.
There are micro transactions in Fallout now, it will only be a matter of time before this spreads to other single player games.
Be sure to try out Yakuza0/Kiwami on Ps4. They're some of the absolute best singleplayer experiences on the console
Listen sheeple if you really want this kind of stuff to stop then BOYCOTT them. Cancel any pre-orders and stop playing these kind of games. If they can't profit from this system then they will be forced to change it.
Just use G2A for AAA titles and the actual legit services for the indie games.
I mean they shouldn't even be pre ordering in the first place but totally agree.
Agree - I don't buy games that contain lootboxes, and as such I've not bought half-a-dozen recently that I otherwise would have. If everyone did the same thing this shit would end reasonably quickly.
I was thinking the same thing. Lootboxes for views is just stupid.
"Hey guys! I just spent $100 dollars on Lootboxes and I'm going to open them all to show you how awesome my channel is!" - Who watches that shit? I mean seriously...it's like watching the rich kid at school burn money just because they can?!?
Dont ever for a second think you guys sound like a broken record. We WANT to be informed. We NEED to be informed. Otherwise we will keep getting bent over by these crooks to the point the industry is completely poisoned. Keep it up lads, we salute you!
I told you guys, it wouldn't be too long before publishers implemented "House" casino scam with gambling micro-transactions become a thing. This algorithm is exactly the tool for greedy publishers to do this. Just like a gambling in casino, HOUSE ALWAYS WINS!
That actually explains why solo q'ing in D2 is complete ass. I've literally had to carry EVERY SINGLE TEAM when I solo q in pvp. This is as real as can be.
"This patent has not been implemented in any game yet."
I trust Activision about as far as I can throw a multimillion dollar corporation. And that "yet" scares me.
I think it's fantastic to shed light on these issues but we must vote with our wallets.
What's happening in games right now reminds me of the Comic Book Crash.
Back in the 90's the comics industry was targeting speculators instead of comic book fans and over time the gimmicks increased and the quality continued to deteriorate, eventually the speculators realized that the comic books they were buying were worthless and they stopped buying them. The industry had lost it's big spenders and in their pursuit of the speculators they had driven away the millions of smaller spenders and they never got them back.
This is what will happen with "whales" we're already seeing the deterioration of video game content from the perspective of non micro-transaction spending customers, this also intersects with the sunk cost fallacy and customers become less likely to take risks on new triple A games. Gamers are beginning to become wary that sixty dollars is no longer just sixty dollars.
You saw this with Lawbreakers.
The industry is in a bubble right now because it's preying upon the compulsive instincts of young gamers with addictive personalities, most of whom have never been near a casino much less built up any defences to such predatory practices yet but they will and most likely at around the same time, that's when the bubble will burst.
I already don't buy or play any games involving micro-transactions because I can't trust myself with them, It's why I used to love Bethesda games so much... used to... the only Triple A game I bought this year was Nier which was micro-transaction free and I spent the rest of my money on indie games or anime.
I don't know anything about the comics side of things, I only dabbled in that area (i.e. Sandman/Gaiman and Dark Knight Returns) but I've been saying for awhile that the gaming industry looks like it was heading for a crash in the relatively near future, even though it appears to be strong. Right now I think we NEED that crash. A huge one on an equivalent scale of the 1929 stock market crash. Something to shock and wake up these devs and publishers that gamers aren't happy and that things need to change. Something to really hit them where it hurts - in their pockets.
I do trust myself not buy microtransactions. I don't do any gambling at all, including the lottery. I only buy an occasional game, don't do multiplayer and I did get FM7 which will have microtransactions but I also know that I'll never buy any of them. For me, if the underlying game is worth it once you ignore microtransactions then I say go for it, why should we lose out on great games because of their actions. If microtransactions are too integrated into the game (i.e. Battlefront II) then definitely pas it by. You could always pirate it if you don't want to give the publishers anything. Personally, I'm only interested in the Battlefront II campaign, especially after the recent MP info so I hope that gets pirated and I may go that route. I'm certainly not paying full price for it.
The gaming industry is targeting their own version of speculators at the expense of other customers, for every one person who buys that nice cosmetic outfit there are a thousand other players using all their willpower to not spend that money but they're still constantly thinking "that's a nice outfit I wish I could have it".
The system is designed to wear people down so those who manage to resist end up feeling exhausted and those who give in end up feeling manipulated.
fukin' el' mate, right on the money :D
I mean marvel has sucked for years because they not only pander to regressive leftists. They actively attack fans on twitter all the time.
And yet, there will still be people who will make excuses for this and act like it's not a big deal. It's precisely because of those who are too comfortable to say anything that these kinds of awful decisions are being made
TheShadowofsparta i honestly say... It's not a big deal... There are hundreds of new games out there, good games, that have not use micro transaction. Buy and support those games instead.
Don't like it don't buy it, vote with your wallet.
Wonders not "don't buy microtransactions", don't buy the game! You're complicit to support micro transaction just by playing the game... So don't buy the whole package. Again, there are hundreds of good new games out there that don't use micro transaction, buy them instead, support them!
Ozz Lee - Why are you so obsessed with defending microtransactions? I see you doing it all the time.
Look at the money they are making with these schemes, it's obviously a threat to the games you like. Boycotts are a great idea though and I thank all who manage to do so.
Like if you want to play the hot new Star Wars game cause you love Star Wars then good luck avoiding microtransactions. You're kinda f'd at that point.
Krytern UK who's defending what? I actually want people to support games that doesn't use micro transaction, instead people choose to fuss over games that use it. I just hate people complain about micro transaction but then do absolutely nothing when there are games that came out micro transaction free!
Seriously look at Evil Within 2, a good game without loot boxes, sold 75% LESS than Shadow of War!.
The fuss we're doing right now actually give more exposure to games with this monetisation model and drown out the games that doesn't... So really me? Defending MT?
Keep 'm coming, no apologies needed. These videos are needed! For both the industry and us consumers. Thanks for the hard work on your side on the subject!
Keep up the good work guys. This coverage is exactly what these types of things need. None of us are going to get tired of people calling out these companies for what they are doing to video games. Microtransactions and lootboxes have no place in 60$ games. Channels like yours are our voice. Doing great.
Where is the passion in making video games anymore. Nowadays triple A games don't care about being a good game anymore they care more about bleeding peoples wallets even after paying 60$ upfront
thelastoilmat couldnt have said it better .
thelastoilmat Well as long as people behave like mindless bank accounts that love to be conned then that is how companies will treat them.
I still think Sony is somewhat doing it right. They're still releasing single player games that don't (necessarily) include Microtransactions, ie. Horizon, Uncharted, LOU, God of War, Spider Man, etc.
It's in the non-pretentious Indie scene with games like Cuphead, Bendy and the Ink Machine, and Undertale (Which, while you could argue the fanbase of that game is shit, the game was actually pretty good).
I think the only actual Triple A games I've bought recently are the ones that are $4 on Steam (like Saint's Row 4 when it was 80% off last weekend).
The passionate games are still being made. They're just not being advertised as much. Many people only care about what's popular.
THAT THUMBNAIL!! YOU FOOLS!! now you KNOW something worse is going to come out in the next 48 hours
DAMN IT
I wouldn't be surprised if activision has a control group of 5 year olds in their basement that they treat like guinea pigs to test their microtransactions
YOU FOOLS, YOU DOOMED US ALL!!
"..say that you are an idiot, and you've bought into microtransactions..." HAHA
Thank you for the exposure and integral journalism. This pisses me off. Well done, guys, on being open and honest
Basically they're so greedy that they filed a patent for greed!
You know it's funny, if gamers collectively decided to not buy certain games, that would be putting power back in our hands, the customers, which is where it should be. By doing so it would be an economic uppercut to them over microtransactions. But I'm sure that will never happen....oh and this patent is absolutely predatory and forced gambling.
Gta v is by far the most shocking way of summing this up in a nutshell.... The online is utter bollox!!!
The sad truth is that a HUGE portion of the gaming community, maybe even the majority, are kids whose parents buy their games for them. They don’t understand why this process is greedy, they don’t have an interest in the status of the “industry” and neither do their parents (cause why would they?) Gaming developers know his. They know that most gamers over the age of 20 or so hate micro transactions, but to them, that is nothing but a vocal minority. Plus, let’s be real, plenty of people (some of us included) rant about micro transactions and how they ruin a game, then buy it anyway.
There are plenty of reasons why this practice isn’t going anywhere really.
the thing with micro transactions is, you can "whale" it out as a big publisher, and become rich on a small and gambling addicted portion of the fan base, while keeping up the appearance that the popularity of your release is because of "the majority", pokemon GO basically does it and gladly packaged it in a famous IP.
Sugarhighme Gaming on the upside. All of you are gamers now. You will eventually get old enough to have kids of your own. You will also be smart enough to encourage them away from this sort of thing. Eventually this system of dirty, under handed, manipulation will crumble before these larger companies. By means of lawsuit or loss in shares. Consumers and people in general can only take so much bullshit before they start to act. It just hasn't come to that point yet. It will though. Be it 10 to 20 years from now.
I remember last year, I was waiting in line for Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare Legacy Edition (because it came with MWR), and I figured everyone else there was waiting for the same thing - pure, OG CoD 4 with a nice HD skin (this was before I was aware that the game would be destroyed by supply drops). I was wrong. Despite all the negative reception the trailers and promotional material had gotten, these fucking teenage sheep were still talking about how stoked they were to play the new Call of Duty! I was dumbfounded. If this behavior reflects the average consumer, we are all, well and truly, FUCKED!
That's actually a form of Extortion. Extortion is illegal in the United States and punished via time in prison depending on the extent and massive fines.
I love it when you guys talk about these subjects! you are at the front lines trying to hold this back. you got a voice! love these videos.
The sooner Governments limit microtransactions in games, the better.
they won't , they will make a deal to tax it and get more money from that
Loot box, perhaps... Micro transaction, it's a simple transaction.
I mean this channel uses micro transaction...
That wound be horrible 0.o
Just don't buy games with micro transactions in them....
Ok no, fuck that, I hate microtransaction but once the government starts fucking with what games can do we'll be fucked.
Government wont be able to tax loot crates... game developers hide their accounts and literally male out games hardly make a profit. Common practise is within the film industry. Star wars to this day still hasn't paid a single penny in tax as they say marketing cost a fortune.
Activision, your making it just too damn easy for me to just boycott another CoD title.
teh tjoppie just boycott the whole company and associates, Blizzard, Bungie, etc.
I stopped buying their shit since bo2 fuck them greedy shit company
DevilGames you mad?
Aiden I've been around after that for a while longer, and when mean longer I mean a year later with CoD Ghosts
Aiden I've been around after that for a while longer, and when mean longer I mean a year later with CoD Ghosts
Starting to love this channel for news.
Keep the videos on micro transactions. I subbed becasue of your no BS info. Its great! Keep it up and keep on keeping us informed
Can't wait for angry Joe's RANT!
Lol how so?
The real tragedy here is ppl will still buy them
K K don't forget the little kids who get there parents to buy them games. It's predominantly marketed towards them. Which sucks bc these practices are becoming shitter by every new release. Not all devs are deplorable but enough are esp the big players
It’s amazing that people for years tried to tie in school shootings with video games but no one has stood up to these predatory practices that do target children & those easily swayed.
Love your guys channel.. and your growing fast!! Keep it real guys. Peace.
Keep fighting those greedy bastards!
I m now proud to have pirated cod games now as I don't fucking care about multiplayer. Gg Activision, u have just put gaming industry on suicide watch, well done. 👏👏👏
I used to ignore these practices but thanks to you guys I've finally taken action. I DIDN'T BUY Battlefront 2 or Shadow of War and I'll continue to eliminate these types of games from my shopping list. Keep preaching guys. We love you
good to know skill based matchmaking will go out the window in activision games, way to be trashier than EA. It's things like this that will bring about another great video game crash like back in the 80's.
Holland I don't like where things are going. But there are too many people who do buy micro transactions and do buy these games, too bring about a video game crash
The only thing it's going to crash, if anything, is the AAA gaming companies. We've already been seeing for years now that people are moving away from AAA and buying indie. AAA are all the same recycled bullshit anyway: COD 49834593, Fifa 98645096854, yada yada. You can only skin a turd so much before people get bored and move on.
Look at the games winning awards and getting the best user reviews, indie titles. I think the next decade is going to see the rise of indie companies that will hopefully end up taking over the AAA companies.
Another crash would be great for gaming. Just look at the quality improvement from Atari 2600 to NES in just 2 years.
Holland bo3 is broken u go against level 800 no lives with breccis u lose, next match ur team is ass and u go deeper and deeper to the point u pay to play
Holland I dono.... More people, are more stupid today, than in the 80's
They can pull this shit as much as they want I will never give them a dime for a microtransactions or a loot box.
You know it just occurred to me that since this patent was approved when it was, we can't trust Activision to shoehorn this system into CoD WW2 before release in November. I mean if Square Enix could get a lootbox ridden multiplayer mode into Deus Ex in a couple weeks, then Activision could certainly do it in a month.
Zachary Mumme What does the word of developers even matter since they have frequently lied to us and withheld the truth before?
Andrei Valdez Got a point there. I just got this feeling that since the patent has been approved, they are going to implement this into CoD WW2. I personally don't buy or play CoD, but this is a scary precedent that Activision is setting.
They should have to display a product placement sign in a 30 second unskippable cut scene at the start of each play session lol
It can always be worst, next time they will limit internet connection for people that don't buy the microtransactions, and then they will send a person to beat you up if you don't buy in game items
The 10 dislikes are from Activision Employees
Annoyingly, now am NOT buying Battlefront 2, Shadow of War or COD WW2 because of loot boxes and microtransactions. Anthem, Future Battlefield and all AAA will be the same. Am sticking with Warframe, thanks.
Tom Blay
Warframe! Damn right! Digital Extremes has the right pay model!
LonghornRed when i give money to digital extremes i feel satisfied becuse i am going to get something worth it i love warframe
Yep. All into Warframe. They earn my money instead of squeezing from me.
You're all being sarcastic? right?
thewalkuk22631
Why do you ask? You support Activision's greed and dirty business?
"Please, sir, may I have some more? "
"MOOOOREEEEE??"
So, is like the real life version of the Monday Night Combat Product Grenade but more insidious than hilarious?
Fuck me I'm sick of this shit, games are already expensive enough $100 here in Australia, if they stopped pumping all their money into advertising they wouldn't need this micro-transation crap. But they would probably still do it cause greed.
its 90$ CAD here in canada
Talismann Why are games so expensive over there? It's 60$ usd here and even That seems very expensive.
Then again, we'd have great games like Titanfall 2 that go unnoticed because of more publicized shittier counterparts released at the same time.
OdenShard The gaming companies have to ship over the Pacific Ocean to Australia, not to mention the fees and taxes etc.
From the standpoint of current value, (I'm not an economist or anything, just speculating) the reason it's $100 in Australia, $90 in Canada, and $60 in America, probably has to do with equivalency. For example, $60 USD may be the equivalent of $100 (Australian acronym here) in terms of value. I don't how jobs pay in Australia but the above values might be equally difficult to obtain.
This is pretty manipulative. If you as a player can't specify who or what level of player you want to be matched with, then matching should be random. If they do decide to implement this they have to declare it up front, not hide it in the small print.
Gaudia Certaminis now I realise why I was on a losing streak in CoD , I didn't buy COD points
Gaudia Certaminis they will not need to tell you at all
+Harish G L K if not now that's his it will be. A cycle of pay to win. They dont care if they kill the game in 3 months because they will just release another in a year. Just stop buying cod, it's ruined the industry in so many other ways. If no one buys it they at least will be forced to innovate the game.
Hi Jim. I agree. At some point that's all that's left to you - voting with your wallet.
This is perfect. Just... perfect. Thank you for informing people on that.
Love the Destiniy 2 t-shirt to the vid! Great stuff!
Marquee Mike 👌
I see a bright future with fullpriced AAA always online singleplayer "games as a service" with free-to-play mechanics.
I am scared.
Little did you know they have been putting out shit singleplayer campaigns to set us up for this. We have no refuge! It is the Battle of the Bulge all over again.
Holy cow that is some shady manipulation. Thank you for sharing this with everybody.
This might be connected to the situation some reviewers have noticed in multiplayer that they often be matched up with high level players, when they were low levels.
"Sneaky shit" not swearing...
"F**kin bad" censored and catches on as swearing.
You know what is funny ? we can't change on how Activision, EA, and other big corporate AAA run their gaming business. We can't change on how the just wants to focus on multiplayer from now on. Even we sue them for loot boxes they can still win.
But you know what ? some of AAA games are still amazing especially done by Atlus, Enix, Platinum, Obsidian, CD Projeck Red and my prediction Kojima Studio and we must support them. You know what also we can do ? support the little and middle guy who makes games with passion like Larian Studio, Super Giant Games, Stoic Studio, Heart Machine, and many more awesome small and middle developer. Their games is what video games is.
So instead of just complaining, ranting with no reason about the things we can't change let's just do something to make right by supporting the developer and games that is worth it.
Humam242 That's what i alreadt started doing anyway. These big devs don't care about games anymore. Just the money. i don't argue with these people who defend it just play better lol
Same i'm really not interested in like big games like Battlefront 2, Destiny 2, Today's Call Of Duty, or many other bug budget games anymore.
The only AAA games i bought this year was Persona 5, Nier Automata, Nioh, Resident Evil 7, The Evil Within 2, and Breath Of The Wild and i will also get Mario Odyssey on release. That is kinda funny that this year Japanese games shows their teeth again like what they used to back than.
Humam242 Dont forget about Yacht Club games for Shovel Knight and the devs behind Stardew Valley and A Hat in Time.
Persona 5: Months after release, there's not one patch for the game... because there is literally no bugs in the game.
I'm the type of person who wasn't into turn-based combat or time-management life simulator gameplay, but I am really enjoying persona 5. I recommend getting it.
ark13700 I recommend taking a look at Persona 4 too, and maybe checking its motherseries SMT.
The state of things has gone so far that I'm sadly selling my PS4 this week, and have already offloaded nearly all my games as well. Voting with your wallet works until you realize you end up purchasing only 1 game every 6 months or so based on loads of research into the devs, and now I'm spending more time researching shit practices than actually playing the few games left I do respect. Voting with my wallet now sadly means I'm out. It's just become too much crap to wade through. But I'll never regret the ridiculous amount of time I spent in The Witcher.
I have and never bought or have been manipulated to buy in game items, I have all ways stood up against buying them when I paid full price for a game. I do and never will support micro transactions.
You should have mentioned that this could also work for items and weapons that are *just cosmetic*. Even though the gun didn't give the player a benefit, he still killed you with this nice, shiny skin and once you buy the skin, it feels like you're killing better and more... because you were matched with lower skilled players.
I did not even think of it that way. Wow that's scummy.
If everyone here gets *at least* 2 friends not to buy the new CoD game, Destiny 2, and Battlefront 2 then it'll put a large dent in the funds received. Of course this is a pipe dream because this world is full of idiots.
"Not currently". Leads me to believe they'll go the Battlefield route and develop and implement the tech since their patent has been approved after a few months to a year. They already have your money for the base-game purchase so what do they care?!
Steven Sackett none of my friends are buying that garbage.
Glad to hear. Welcome to the FMT (Fuck Micro-Transactions) squad.
Ok realistic math, at the TOP you'll get 500k people to even know about this and potentialy not buy the game, that still leaves MILLIONS of buyers who will buy these games.. we don't matter, the educated people who care about their games don't matter to those corporations.
It will be easier if the PSN and Xbox Live get attacked a day before release. Since they are heavy on online multiplayer, people will not buy it until the issue is resolved. Meanwhile other normal singleplayer games are unaffected (at least the physical versions)
It sounds like you're going off the numbers of this channels subscribers alone (assuming they all see it before release). With all the channels releasing these types of videos it's unlikely someone who regularly plays online wouldn't see one of these videos. However, most people who actually buy into this are likely the parents of the kids who have no clue what is actually going on.
Having been a gamer since the 70's, I have a large backlog and a growing disinterest in supporting an industry devolving into its gambling machine roots. From always online to cut single player, paid dlc, meaningless multiplayer, and manipulating gameplay toward loot box "gambling," It's finally breaking the camel's back. I stopped playing online last year. This year I may stop buying new games altogether.
We want to know it anytime micro transactions come out! Keep it up, thank you!
You guy deserve more subs!
This is worse than betting this is pure brainwashing and explains why your all ways pitted against pros
Unless you are a pro. Then you're playing against peasant part timers!
Honestly the only microtrans actions I've ever bought was from warframe but not to skip the grind but because I full enjoy the game and feel that DE earned my money
did the same, after all the game is free 2 play. After a while the game becomes really grindy.
I’m glad to see people are getting wise to this perversion of the gaming industry.
Makes me sad that blizzard is in bed with them.
Todd Brickley more like tied
Todd Brickley FUCK them TOO!
Yeah... I know. It just sucks to see companies you grow up with do a 180. I know the real blizzard is dead. And that they have been for a long while. =\
Multiplayer is dying this is beyond cancer the only multiplayer done right is titanfall 2 by respawn entertainment
BT-7274 Pilot Jack Cooper a shame that EA screwed respawn over by making them release in the most random release date. I hope titanfall 2 gets alot more support in the future
I don't understand how we are even having these conversations - all this online grinding progression, multitransaction, loot boc shenanigans is exactly like gambling. These companies know exactly what they are doing. How is this shit not illegal by now?
Great work guys! I think its time for me to find a new hobby.
I have been playing video games since Pac Man was in arcades. I'm old enough to remember when the games industry died and Atari went out of business. I have been a player long enough to recall the dawn of the Nintendo Entertainment System and how it rescued video games from certain death. I have been playing video games since I was three years old. My parents said I would grow out of it. But here I am at thirty-nine still playing. But hearing about this patient by Activision yesterday was literally the first time I ever thought about quitting video games. The games they release these days are multiplayer shoot fests that I work too much to get good at full of microtransactions. And to top it all off these are the only games the industry wants to make because they make a mountain of money off them. The narrative and gameplay driven games I used to enjoy are gone and have been replaced by content stripped trash they charge sixty dollars for and then suck your wallet dry for the rest of a game you should have already owned. And now they want to deliberately steer you toward getting your wallet sucked dry?
The industry is taking the joy out of video games. Good luck playing Call of Duty and Destiny and all their clones. Make no mistake these shady practices are coming down the road and they are aimed at kids. I just hope the independent developers keep making games worth playing. You can expect consoles to die a cold hard death soon as the AAA market dies because consumers turn their backs on it.
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well there is still hope that the indie market could survive, i've seen enough great games in there! though yeah... honest gaming is indeed done for if big publishers start to aggressively use lobbyists and patent trolling to make independent publishing nearly impossible.
See this is why the gaming industry is failing
Luna gamming should learn from Toyota. Continues improvement + Respect for people. Value for the customer etc
Luna It's not though.
Actually they're tripling in value...... So in reality they're as far away from failing as possible.
"the gaming industry is failing"
The insane profits generated in recent years would beg to differ.
The gaming industry in terms of quality yes, hell I'd debate that since there are many small amazing games like cuphead being released. I think what you mean is that majority of AAA games are slowly becoming focused on MT instead of gameplay for profit.
Can we go back to the days of early 2000s business practices for gaming, please? I don't want to live in this gaming age anymore. :(
I like the point which was made that effectively every person with the the pay to win advantage is subvertly a billboard within the game. Excellent.
Activision:
Tired of being killed by the same player with a nuke strength weapon haha too bad you are in player hell now X===D
sincerly Activision
Activision should just rot in hell along side EA and Ubisoft, their greed know no bound.
Guys, you don't need to apologize for reporting on microtransactions. People need to hear about the shady money hungry publishers that are trying to get away with ripping off gamers. Thanks to people like you, more gamers are calling out these practices for what they are. You're doing a service for gamers! Keep it up, and thanks!
The real problem is that even seeing it right in front of them, not enough people will stop supporting games that do this. We need to collectively as a community stop even buying games that have microtransactions in them, unless they are free to play.
Mass Effect, Destiny 2, Battlefront 2, For Honor , Diablo 3 Necromancer Pack etc and now this.... Dafaq is wrong with these companys ?????!! We dont want any pay to win and microtransactions shits with random lootboxes !!! STOP IT !
Nerulon Skyven for honor has no pay to win type thing, it has a season pass like rb6 which is stupid
Horizon zero dawn, a game where loot boxes can only be obtained through gameplay.
Why on earth would a sp game have lootboxes
Just get rid of the fucking lootbox system.
Thank you for being vigilant and staying on top of this. The problem will be young ones who don't care about the money and don't care about tomorrow they just want what they want right now. This company must suffer a boycott for just thinking about manipulating people this way.
You can see where this is going, Activision paying high end competitive players, equip with a complete load out of micro transactions and releasing them into public matches where they will destroy squeakers, who then believe that they are getting stomped because of the micro transactions and not because the opponent is gamer averaging +3 KD., then go out and waste their parents money on these transactions.
Knew you guys would report on this ASAP, good on ya lads.
Bobby Kotick sucking the fun out of gaming one step at a time... I'm so glad Activision doesn't make any game I like, or want...
Thank you!
apprieciate your passionate concern about consumers ! you can swear all you want ^^
and this crap is another reason why i don't play micro-transaction or heavy dlc games, the feeling of being screwd over is too heavy