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Can you name a scoring technique, defensive strategy, or perhaps goalie stance that has changed the game?
Wrist shots are pretty sick
Butterflies
The spinorama basically perfected by Denis Savard.
The Datsyukian deke by Pavel Datsyuk
The Left Wing Lock by the Detroit Red Wings in the 1990's.
Just to name a few.
True, the ability of the players today is insane but you fail to mention that today's goalies spend more time on their knees than a ten dollar hooker on a Saturday night leaving that corner open.
goalie height is increasing. someday they'll be as tall as NBA players.
Boone Jenner truly revolutionized the game
As much as Nail Yakupov
Not as much as Zack Kassian
I’m a big fan of his sister, Jenne Booner
Your moms ass revolutionized my face
@@OnwardsUpwards Ya'll sleeping on Louie Eriksson
One of my favorite moments was in a game between the Oilers and the Jets in which the Jets net got knocked off its pegs, so Leon Draisaitl went back to his little office, received that pass and scored on Rittich. It might have been a little bit of revenge for Rittich's stick flipping incident playing for Calgary.
‘The Executioner’s Shot!’ - Cult of hockey podcast.
I'm an Avs fan, and I've noticed Mikko Rantanen is doing these goal line shots a lot. The skill in the league is crazy right now.
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I was at the Oilers/Kings game and what is wild is that he attempted that shot from that same angle minutes before doing it again and actually scoring.
Thought Talbot would’ve seen what he was trying to do and stopped it
This has a lot to do with goalies adopting the VH and RVH style. You see it on just about every goal example in this video, they sacrifice the top corner to take away the lower portion, rebound potential, and a passing option.
Poor discipline with sealing to the post (including helmet) opens up the bank shot and exposes holes. Opting to use the move when you shouldn't will also expose holes. I did a few goalie camps by the then Toronto Maple Leafs goaltending coach and he drilled this one home, you don't do the VH/RVH when a skilled shooter is at range unless you want to get burnt. It's a close-in stance.
I see a lot of younger goalies that over rely on it because there aren't a whole lot of players at the youth levels that can pick that corner -- it becomes habitual .. it is also not easy from a biomechanical view, I know some early 20 goalies who grew up doing it and have already had hip replacements.
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How are you going to talk about impossible angle shots and not mention Dylan Larkin???????
Right he’s scored like 3-5 of these this season alone but has done it multiple times over the past few seasons
Yeah, Larkin was my first thought, but then his OTT rhetoric made me ask, "have you ever seen Pavel Datsyuk?"
Larkin does this all the time. But of course no one talks about him.
The forever victim of being consistently good
I hate that sports betting. It is only a matter of time until there is some sort of major bribery scandal.
McDavid being a lefty makes that goal off the helmet EVEN BETTER
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The off the back bank in shots are my absolute favorite goals to see scored currently, McDavid was the first guy I took noticed of doing it... or at least to be intentionally looking for it and doing it on a fairly consistent basis to the tenders around the league.
Personally I consider it the McDavid goal.
Of course, there are way flashier goals that players score like the Michigans and dont get me wrong i love seeing a successful Michigan play performed but theres just something extra methotical and killer instinct about intentionally banking it off the goaltender into the back of the net, especially the ones that are shot from literally behind the goal line, its such a dirty little play I love the strategy and situational awareness to consider such a shot let alone score it.
its one of those goals that the first time you see it, your like holy shit that was a incrediable shot/play and a crazy lucky goal to score... could be a game changer in the future though... and then you see it again and again, and realize its quickly becoming a legitimate scoring oppurtunity thats not just a fluke shot being made by players once in awhile on accident but that they're actually seeking such a shot in games.
Its such an exciting time to be a hockey fan right now with so much talent around the league.
Gretzky used to do it when the opportunity was there but back then goalies actually stood up and hugged the Poston angle or corner shots.
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Something you over looked. The new goalie butterfly standard created this top shelf opportunity. The standup goalies in the early 2000s, and prior, wouldn't let a shot like this in.
For every one shot a standup wouldn't let in the top corner, they'd let in 10 low and hard shots compared to a butterfly goalie
@@beneasler8868 I can only imagine a standup trying to stop an NHL snap going 5-hole and it's a very funny mental image
And to think that a few years ago they were talking about making the nets bigger to increase scoring
I saw that sick ass goal at 0:50 live. Amazing. I was a few rows behind the glass on the right corner
And people wonder why goaltending is getting "worse"
It’s like NBA fans who think defense is getting worse somehow. Players just have supreme offensive ability now in every sport that’s been around
I feel like goalie techniques and defensive schemes have stagnated a bit. Every goalie is such a freak of flexibility and reaction time nowadays and the 1-3-1 isnt what it used to be with all the speed these days, forwards have come up with answers and goalies havent yet been able to match the changes in the league to accomodate.
Another factor is probably because goalies used to stand and hug the post, now they are on their knees protecting the bottom of the net, exposing that area. Players are too good these days and can pretty much score with the tiniest of openings.
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Its bin a while noticed the oilers using that back angle, it’s crazy how hockey are using ricochet factor to score now
Was that a Randy moller reference with “where grandma keeps the cookies” similar to when he says “where Mrs. Moller keeps the cookies”
Kaner won a cup with this shot and no one, not even the fans thought it went in. Magic
Did mcdavid really shoot at the goalies helmet to get that goal? That's nuts
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goals like that are just normal for 97 at this point nothing surprises me from him anymore
Sick video
I would like to point out that in a shootout and penalty shot that the puck has to keep moving forward and isn't a legal shot if it doesn't. Which is why you don't see spinorammas any more.
Idk, in my opinion it’s time for goalies to evolve from the constant drop in the butterfly that is leaving that hole in their coverage. Goalies go down all the time and have been leaving the upper net open and this is why we have players constantly “roofing” the puck for a goal, from impossible angles to goals from a deke. Evolve or die goalies.
This technique is ALREADY common in youth hockey. My son has scored this way multiple times.
Great video. as much as I want to hate on the Oilers, super Duper undefeated streak they really do have one of the best tandems in hockey if not, the best tandem. Thank God my team is in the east and only has to see them again if they both go to the finals which is probably not gonna happen lol but let’s go FLYERS!!!!
The spinorama basically perfected by Denis Savard.
The Datsyukian deke by Pavel Datsyuk
The Left Wing Lock by the Detroit Red Wings in the 1990's
+1 for Datsyuk reference
After watching late 90's and early 2000's boring defensive hockey, i welcome new era of youngsters with open arms.
Crazy
Mario banked off goalies and defenseman frequently
Zadorov gpt two of these and caused a bit of a rage from lundquist on his hatred of the RVH
2:01 No way. Kuznetsov wasn't even looking?!?! He hit this angle while selling the pass?!? That's not even fair.
I thought the floorball goal was kind of bad because it's too easy but as defenders and goalies are understanding it's a common possibility now the game adjusted and it's a legit technique.
On the McDavid goal against LA, it looked like there was going to be a penalty against the Kings for tripping Draisaitl. So even if McDavid missed the shot and the Kings touched it, they would have ended up 2 men short for about 0:55 of ice time (depending on the referees, of course).
Now that players are starting to use the goaltenders' backs and heads to score, it's now on the goalie coaches and goalie development programs to teach future goaltenders to stay standing with their stick blade on the ice and not go into the butterfly as often as they are currently.
No, they have been doing that forever, I saw both Lemieux and Gretzky do those, famous one from Gretzky was vs Toronto in 93 conference finals and Lemieux' would be on December 31st 1988 when he scored 5 goals 5 different ways (only player to ever do that)
Edit: Granted it was really not common back in the day.
While performing the Michigan, can't you get called for high sticking if your stick touches the goalies helmet? A few on here you can clearly see it happen. That's probably the only way the NHL could make it a risky play.
Jacob Slavin bounced it off a goalies head and into the net during the playoffs last year
man smith was the one golie who almost saved it damn
Crosby scored off rival's Lundqvist's head years ago.
Jack Hughes banks it off the goalies mask on sharp angles or from behind the goal line.
Bobby Hull & Stan Makita...Adam Oates & Brett Hull...Now therre are two duos that worked well together,just like Peanut Butter & Jam.
Crosby has been doing that for a decade.
0:54 that wasnt a short side snipe that was mcdavid intentionally banking it off talbots head
3:30 what did my boy reaves do to you lol
Höglander is 23 Y/O playing 4th line? nuts
He’s killing it though. He’s getting bottom 6 if not fourth line minutes on a 24 goal pace. Potential 30 goal scorer if he moves up and gets on the power play
people sleep on hoggy
Canucks are deep.
So many clips of guys scoring on the red wings like this but literally no mention of Dylan Larkin who has gotten like 3 or 4 impossible angle goals this year? I sense a bias lol
Linus omaark the real hero
Stand up, goalies!
This is not the hockey i grew up with...
I miss those close low scoring games
Goals actually meant something back then
I think shots purposefully fired at a goalie's head should count as goals but be penalties if they make contact, including Michigans. Might require review. It's about player safety. I think a flashy skillful play should be awarded with the earned goal, but dangerous plays should be penalized as such.
These only work because of the butterfly.
Remember, bottom six guys are still amongst the best hockey players in the world. There's nothing they can't do, they just don't do it as well as the top guys.
Looks to me like McDavid’s shot hit the goalie before going in. Still an amazing shot but not the short side snipe it’s made out to be.
Thats because US Goalies used to be taught to STAND UP AGAINST THE POST. Now they all taught play on their knees. Mind boggling to me.
It’s more so the scoring evolution which has taken advantage of butterfly. Yes the goalie stances lead to the change, but the fact that players have this precision now is crazy
How dare you talk over such a 🔥 beat
Your growing up and about a dozen times a year you have to play without a goalie or your waiting for the d-man to throw on the rinks goalie equipment
So what do we do?
Put a water bottle on top of the net and start shootin 😊
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Im really sorry but the premise of this video is not accurate. Pun intended.
You showed a bunch of big butterfly goaltenders ( i checked Montreal, Toronto, LA and the smallest goalie was 6'2") going down early to cut off the five hole and low deflections, or leaning out to cut off centering passes, or just looking and getting punished upstairs. NHL players are super skilled such that if they can glide forward on Talbot like McDavid did, no body and no sticks close enough to block, he can just deke a little, hesitate, and get between the arm and the net, the head and the net, bounce off the interior leg pad if theyre not tight. Its essentially a penalty shot. But the most important part is the big goalie going down early. Normally he swallows up the top of the net but if he butterflys too soon its exposed AND his movement up is slower then his movement down.
I know theyre impressive shots made in the middle of the game but theyre just great shots against good goaltenders by players in the best league in the world. But its always been the best league.
Ray Bourque could make those shots from 15 feet away.
Its a good video though
Came to say pretty much this. Glad to see someone else had the same observation. Why those shots are becoming more prevalent is largely because it's an arms race between marksmen and goalies. Since the early 00s, we've seen goalies becoming bigger and bigger, relying heavily on good positioning and stature (I'm not saying they're not nimble and good athletes, mind you) to cover most angles. It worked wonders for a while.
Now, the sharpshooters have caught up and the number of goals have steadily climbed.
@@MrLuchenkov I absolutely agree. Goalies never played the post the way they do now. Every choice a goalie makes closes some holes but opens up others. In this case, the RVH worked great for stopping those short side plays, but now the shooters have adapted. The goalies will start changing again and you won't see this anymore, or at least a lot less. Calling it an arms race was exactly what I was thinking watching this video.
I mean jack Hughes has done it
Didn't they say they wanted to ban the Michigan goal? Keep in mind I haven't heard of that since they talked about it before you throw toxic comments.
Can we please get the high quality thumb nails back or is there a reason for the autogenerated ones
I agree, but unfortunately when I spend hours making a thumbnail on the new CZcams meta, it gets half if not 1/3 the views. I don’t get it, but it is what it is I guess
Seems a bit hyperbolic to say an average player would get yanked for trying and failing at this.
How do you possibly talk about this shot without mentioning the #1 goal scorer in the league who has scored like 15 of these goals this year? That's Matthews' office. Not Draisaitl's.
Make the goal mouth shorter. If you need more scoring, make it wider. Leave goalies' heads alone.
These nhl goalies need to stand instead of spending lots of time on bufferfly techniques
U definitely dont get benched for attempting a shot. Maybe if u shoot everytime instead of passing but to say someone would get benched for attempting that is a stretch.
No Mack? WTH?
A lot of these are not from bad angles though. How else you gonna score without shooting bruh?
I guess the NHL has only been around a decade. None of this is new. It's just new to new fans.
Bottom 6 players and shows top 3 players score.
lacrosse style goals are stupid imho
3:08 Sabres vs Senators matchup??? haha nope
Bring hitting back, and this hot-dogging will cease. No place in hockey.
Hitting has been on the rise. Ya love to see it
Get Cory Perywinkle off the ice!
Tell me you don’t watch mcdavid without telling me you don’t watch.
Mcdavid does this all the time
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so tired of hearing people whine about bedard in chicago like wtf u think it be like for him on a dumpster fire team
Every team who has won a player like Bedard in the lottery has been bad, but a team has never been this bad. Since Bedard got injured, Auston Matthews had scored more goals than their entire roster combined.
Nothing special snipers always been able to do this
Why are you speaking like you're on the verge of laughing at all times
It would be nice if your titles actually reflected what the video was about instead of just trying to be another lame clickbait tiktoker
I mean it does reflect what the video is about. Should it be more detailed? Yeah maybe I get that
Lacrosse goal, not the michigan, the latter sounds so dumb.
Definitely interchangeable
i agree with you lacrosse gives you a visual image of the goal, Michigan is just a place if they named it after the first guy to do it at least it would be giving credit to the pionner but naming it after a University... named after the State it's located in... where one player made the goal WHICH WASNT EVEN THE FIRST TIME SUCH A GOAL WAS SCORED is flat out wrong.
@@jeanjacques9365yup, makes sense. Lacrosse goal.
These are in reality terrible goals to let in