"What Supermoto Bike Should I Buy?"
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Today we tackle the age old question, what supermoto bike should you buy? Brian and Krino are coaches at Socal Supermoto and have ridden them all on both the street and track. Is there one we forgot? Comment below and thanks for watching!
I do daily commute, highway and track... so I bought a 701 SM. No regrets after 6k miles. For track only, I'd get the FS450 in a heartbeat.
best all arounder and always a fun bike.
Surprised I didn't see WR250X considered here. A little down on power to the DRZ but EFI, lighter, and 6 speed gearbox make it a better street bike without giving up a ton on track imo
Yep. We just forgot. Awesome bike, just not for the short
Love my X!
i own two 250X, could have bought a 3rd one but i have no more room in my garage.
Sxv550 Aprilia.
Surprised non of you brought it up.
Have one clamped out with a slipper, shorter gearing, race suspension and exel supermoto wheels to fix the huge stock 5.5 rear rim down to 4.5 and this thing is the porn of supermoto.
We LOVE a sxv. That said most riders are faster on 450s when it comes to lap times. So we have a amazing bike that's not the fastest for most kart tracks, and not reliable enough for the street, so it got a bit lost in the mix. It's rad though!
While I *love* the SXV, it's not very accessible for a lot of riders (only produced in limited numbers from 2007-2010). Not to mention the parts availability/brief service intervals. I think this video is directed more at people who are looking for an simple solution and a more modern bike. The FS450 & DR-Z400S checks all the right boxes and are amazing track weapons. The 701/690 is just a ridiculously fun platform that you can also commute on. I think Brian & Krino were spot on with their answers.
I'm another SXV owner here. And as much as I love the damn thing (I'm on my second one - HEAVILY modified for track), it is NOT first choice for anyone.
SXV is exotic, maintenance heavy, expensive bike. It also is borderline too powerful and difficult to ride. If you have the physical shape to keep the thing up in revs for entire session, I don't think there is a bike that can beat SXV. That said, the thing is hard work to ride. I have ridden many bikes this year and as much as it pains me to say it - SXV does NOT handle the best. And I have custom triple clamps, tuned forks, tuned shock, VDB swingarm, blablabla. It's also a lot more heavy just by feeling. It does compensate in some way with raw power - mine is the most powerful SM on whole track, but raw power only gets you so far.
Another pain is maintenance and parts availability - SXV demands it and you better have local specialist who knows the bike inside out and also where to source the parts. I'm fully aware that the day will come when parts availability will be so limited, that I will no longer be able to service my own bike. Until that day comes, I'm in love with SXV. But it is by no means tells that it is the best supermoto. It might be my favorite, but I am not ashamed to say that I have ridden bikes that are way easier to ride and in real life - probably faster as well.
I bought klx 300 n love it . I did shinko 244 on it n did 200 mile single track last year n also go to work all summer n on weekend go to long rides . Cheap n fun bike . For trail riding my gearing was 14 42 . For street 14 37 . I am 210 n my bike toped out 98 miles n can do highway 70 to 75 all day
stoked for you!
$100 a month for unlimited track time!? I’m moving to the states. I pay minimum $250 aud for one track day here in Australia 😅
Yep that's the membership! full practice on any non race day
That KLX300SM he’s sitting on needed to be addressed more. Seems to me it could be the ultimate small track bike out da box…
on paper yes, but frankly it's a bit boring and nobody seems to get super excited about that bike. It's a killer all arounder though
The KLX300 is trash
@@GODSWORD11 Having ridden one, I absolutely disagree. Its a fully capable bike on road and off(with the proper tires) if you weigh less than 200lbs which I do. Me being at 170lbs, the bike will top out at around 92MPH on the road which is more than fast enough where I'm at and will go anywhere I want to go off road.
@@spartanx169x you’ve ridden one, and I owned one. Just stop talking, boy.
They definitely should have covered it more, klx 300 is perfect gateway drug sumo! Great for new riders and experts who want enjoy the scenery
New or starting out, DRZ400sm. Second bike or more advanced supermoto, KTM500excf
that's some solid advice.
@@socalsupermoto thanks it’s literally what I’ve done. With about 15 years riding experience in the mix. Can’t wait to go to California and check you guys out and see how much I’ve been riding wrong all these years.
I got a DRZ400sm and I love her. Does everything I need and a lil extra
that's all i really ride these days :)
Just got a 2022 drz sm with 20 miles for 5k😎
Congrats. Now ignore the internet and ride the hell out of it. We have a video of cheap mandatory mods that may help
Would you recommend a supermoto for a first bike?
Absolutely. SM and dual sports make ideal first bikes.
I have a 2017 KTM 350 EXC-F which has single trail enduro setting on the suspension. Will it be fine to carry that suspension setting over on the SM tracks granted that I switch the wheels to SM spec? Or will I run into issues with that kind of suspension like bottoming out etc.?
You won't gave any issues until you get super super fast. so 17s with big rotor, tighten up the clickers, and go to town!!!
Love my 350 exc f. Great all around bike👌
Yes! Great to know my 1250 GS is the best super-duper moto ever 😂
The best!
Might as well dig up a H2 Megamoto!
Can you race a 500 cc dirt bike, for example a Husqvarna 501
@@thepoastman209 absolutely. 450 fits into more classes but there’s usually a open class
Hey Brian, when you say a DRZ geared tall, what sprocket combo are you talking about? Cheers from Aussie.
16cs sprocket driven brand (shorter teeth), 39 rear and go to town!
@@socalsupermoto Cheers brother!
A six speed, EFi, DRZ400 😂😂😂
and alluminum frame and you would have the greatest motorcycle ever built!
WR450X is what we need!
Hey man I am getting some new race tech springs shock, and forks to support my weight at over 200 pounds. Just wondering what would you recommend I set the compression and re bound on my front forks and the high and low speed and dampening on my rear shock? I do mostly street riding but I like going fast and want to start doing some off-road exploring too.
Well rear you can set the sag, and I totally forgot to what lenth but it's all over on how to do that. The front I play with the clickers based on feel. compression i adjust by braking, rebound dampening: If it's twitchy and won't settle i increase dampening, if it doesn't want to come out of turns and wants to wallow, i decrease dampening. Not super scientific I know
Have you guys been able to try the Ducati 698 Mono yet? I'm loving mine so far, it's the only competition KTM/Husqvarna/GasGas has!
On the other hand, I'm laughing because my 16 year old 2008 SXV 550 is still faster....
@@dougwellington personally no but a friend has one who races and loves it!
Which super moto/ dual sport do you think is close to equal to performance on and off road? I'm looking to do dirt riding with the family but I need to sell my xsr900 to help pay for machines and a trailer. I know I won't get the same street performance as the xsr but I want to get as close to it without sacrificing off road capability as well. I plan to run two sets of wheels and tires one for each discipline. I'm just trying to get as close to the best of all worlds as possible in terms of power, handling, and maintenence/ durability. I've been riding on the street for almost 20yrs but have little dirt experience. I'm also looking for fuel injecting so please don't say drz 😂
I'd go with a drz, but on some dual sport rubber 80/20 tire or dunlop mutants and just ride it all over. everyone plans on the wheelswap, nobody does it on the regular
Any year KTM 450 EXC-R with 17s. Lots around, street legal, and fast. Downside, expensive to fix.
True story
Miss you guys!!!
right back at ya!
DRZ or DR650 conversion or XR650 conversion or Husqvarna 510 msr?
I mean i love to ride and i'm over wrenching. a dr650 w 17's and uncorked exhaust is one of the best street bikes ever
great video
Thanks!
What sprocket size for a DRZ would you recommend for all around use with highway mileage?
15/39 works good for me with 17’s.
Can do 38 if you’re mostly 50/60mph+
But you’d need:
3x3
Jet kit
Full exhaust
Minimum
Other wise it’ll struggle in 5 an you’ll have to drop the 4th on grades.
yeah I like 16/39. I notice the increase in top speed much more than the loss in acceleration on the street!
Is 16-39 the ideal for the Drz? Mostly street riding with some trails.
16cs sprocket driven brand (shorter teeth), 39 rear and go to town!
I just geared my Dr.Z to 16/39 and LOVE it!! It's actually a street bike now. The only downside is it does not tractor off road like it used to. It can stall under 8mph now. More clutch work needed in the dirt. Otherwise, it's the best improvement for street use you can do for that bike. I have no idea why they don't do that at the factory on the SM.
@@machupikachu1085 Did your chain work, or did you get a new one?
@@jimperry4420 I had 15/39 before, so the chain fit just fine. You may need a new one from the stock gearing perhaps.
I’m 5’6 what’s the smallest 2 stroke supermoto
I mean a kx65 you can absolutely fly on...
@@socalsupermoto well true lmao, I might go for a 125 2T supermoto or even a 250 cause smaller wheels lower the seat height alot
I have a DR650 SM conversion that I commute daily but also stunt with. Should I just get keep rockin it or get a true supermoto?
Man I love me a dr650 conversion. Seriously one of my favorite bikes. Hell I've done full supermoto track days on a bone stock dr650!
@socalsupermoto Thanks for the reply. I've been really thinking what if I had this bike instead, but now I am gonna send it with the DR650.
Looking at SMR450 for Adams and Apex
beast of a track weapon. get it!
What about older models?
Ktm duke, honda fmx, yamaha xt660...
I'm not a big fan of the lc4 engine but all the others sure. Afterall almost all bikes are beyond yours and mine skills so get whatever you like. It's not really about the bike, even when the video is about the bike :)
@@socalsupermoto Why aren't you a fan of the lc4 engine, asking becuse i own a lc4 640 sm and i am looking for upgrade exc 500 or 690 smc with is more reliable.
@@dynera100 just kinda big heavy paint shaker. I like the 690 engine though!
yz250x 2 stroke best street bike
fun track bike too!
Did they just say 701 doesnt feel like a sm? So how does fs450 feel like then?
The weight makes a huge difference. The FS / SMR can get away with carrying a lot of speed on idiotic inside/inside/outside lines or braking where other bikes would start turning in. The "701 isn't a real supermoto" is a joke at this point, but so is trying to compare a race bike and commuter bike. Different tools for different jobs
Well Kinda. Krino said that. I disagree, as does sylvia the filmer who is the one in most of the 701 clips. I think it feels like a big awesome supermoto because it's a big awesome supermoto :)
Does anyone know any good 125cc supermoto
we love us a ttr125
guy on the KLX had mute advice guy on DRZ bang on
Thanks (I'm the drz guy). I disagreed with a lot of what Krino said but I just see it as a different perspective. Krino is a insanely talented and experienced rider, so his opinions are valid imho.
always good to have an alt viue point for sure. @@socalsupermoto
701 is a hypermoto
how ya ride it is so much more important than what we call em!
Street supermoto ish choice…my 390 Duke is just as fun and quicker than a DRZ and in the same price range. Just saying😊
Nope got two mates with the 390 and my DRZ eats em both
yep pretty sure DRZ is a quicker bike all around, however I love me a duke and think it's a awesome choice.
I wouldn't jump a Duke...
I wanna buy a freshie
Meeee tooooo brother!
Guy on the left has a clapped out microphone… good information otherwise
think his info was worse than his mic
yeah the recording level was too high. I could eq it a little but next time we'll have a better mic on krino.
As soon as he said get a grom I was out
there's two guys, with two different opions here, so....
Riding around town and no highway/track time? A grom/z125 is perfect for that economically. Good mpg, cheap, and for most people, super fun.
My personal favorite street bike is a 400. The groms are a tad too slow for my liking.
yup feel u...but drz surfer got vibes so i said fuck it and watched
@@kayabridge2223 Bro its all good gentz. I dont care what you ride. I like this channel.
Does anyone know any good 125cc supermoto
personal fave is just slap some streetish tires on a bone stock ttr125le and go to town!