Which Is Stronger, Steel or Stainless Steel? Hydraulic Press Test!

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  • čas přidán 6. 10. 2023
  • Go check out also the versions that we did for Stalatube with Jamie Hyneman! Here is the link to the part1 • Stalatube X Pekka feat... Thanks to Stalatube for sponsoring the video and sending a LOT of their stainless steel tubes to be crushed!
    Which Is Stronger, Mild Steel or Stainless Steel? Hydraulic Press Test! We are going to find out that in this video that we did with Stalatube testing out their stainless steel hollow sections with our 150 ton hydraulic press!
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Komentáře • 204

  • @HydraulicPressChannel
    @HydraulicPressChannel  Před 7 měsíci +23

    Go check out also the versions that we did for Stalatube with Jamie Hyneman! Here is the link to the part1 czcams.com/video/q4H40seo_jI/video.html Thanks to Stalatube for sponsoring the video and sending a LOT of their stainless steel tubes to be crushed!

  • @YRhandlesathing
    @YRhandlesathing Před 7 měsíci +165

    No matter how many times I see it, the square tubes folding like that is extremely satisfying to watch

    • @What_The_Fuck_Did_I_Just_Watch
      @What_The_Fuck_Did_I_Just_Watch Před 7 měsíci +3

      yeah ... I could watch it all day long

    • @nudetaynehatwobble
      @nudetaynehatwobble Před 7 měsíci +3

      I was about to comment the exact same thing. Definitely a personal favorite for me!

    • @EvilTwinRC51
      @EvilTwinRC51 Před 7 měsíci +3

      It reminds me of ribbon candy 😊

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 Před 7 měsíci

      Already saw it, it came up in my recommended list.
      Love to watch science geeks sciencing!

  • @What_The_Fuck_Did_I_Just_Watch
    @What_The_Fuck_Did_I_Just_Watch Před 7 měsíci +30

    it is so SATISFYING to see steel being crushed and folded up like this! ❤

  • @sameeraftabqureshi
    @sameeraftabqureshi Před 7 měsíci +21

    I've done an FEA simulation in ABAQUS on this exact setup and it's amazing to see how close an explicit dynamic analysis can get to the real test. Even the way the column begins to crush and collapses is the same

  • @jimcarlson3303
    @jimcarlson3303 Před 7 měsíci +17

    What interesting folds those tubes make. I would like to see the Damascus patterns a blade smith could make with those pieces.

  • @kristideeley
    @kristideeley Před 7 měsíci +6

    The presses from the first test are absolutely BEAUTIFUL. The first two are my favorites ❤️❤️❤️ If I were you, I'd be pressing square tubes of metal and selling them as sculptures, full-time!!!!

  • @Nefville
    @Nefville Před 7 měsíci +3

    I watched that video with you Jamie and Pekka and it was hilarious. You did such a good job working together. The humor was perfect.

  • @DerTeufelImDetail
    @DerTeufelImDetail Před 7 měsíci +2

    Hey!!! You cleaned the doors!
    I love the folding-style of those square-tubes.
    I'd like to see them crush till the end

  • @kaseymathew1893
    @kaseymathew1893 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I'd like to see a strength test comparing multiple pieces of the same type of steel that have been heat-treated in various ways.

  • @denzzlinga
    @denzzlinga Před 7 měsíci +7

    Since you are kind of one of the most famous Finns today, maybe you could ask the military if you can get your hands on a piece of pipe made of tank armour steel alloy and test its strength? :D

    • @weedfreer
      @weedfreer Před 7 měsíci +1

      Believe it or not, tank armour isn't actually solid through and through...they have composite layers of stuff like ceramic and fine titanium mesh sandwiched between the paltes

    • @denzzlinga
      @denzzlinga Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@weedfreer yes like very modern tanks etc have. I was thinking of the older ones, when the amour was not much more than steel only, but a very special and secret aloy of steel, with properties not found in any other aloy for civilian use.
      So i was curious how it will perform.
      I heared that even working with it is a total pain in the ass, becuase it somehow doesen´t "want" to be cut with angle grinders and holes to be drilled into it, and resists and wears the tools much much more than any normal steel.

  • @jamesmoore869
    @jamesmoore869 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thank you for producing content. As always it is informative and entertaining. Be well guys

  • @nanaki-seto
    @nanaki-seto Před 7 měsíci +5

    I seriously want a couple of those crushed down tubes I could make a pretty awesome looking lamp out of a couple of them stacked on top of each other

  • @CraigPatersonII
    @CraigPatersonII Před 7 měsíci +9

    And nobody else is going to point out that in around a minute the steel becomes weak enough to collapse without "melting". But jet fuel burning for 45 minutes cant weaken beams enough for a building to collapse according to online experts.

  • @mike-kg2op
    @mike-kg2op Před 7 měsíci

    thank you for doing the collaboration with stalatube and jamie hyneman:D

  • @Dynamotorsports
    @Dynamotorsports Před 7 měsíci +7

    What would happen if you drill small holes through the tube equally (for weight reduction).. I wonder how much it affects the peak rating with different sized holes :)

  • @BenKDesigns
    @BenKDesigns Před 7 měsíci +4

    The way the tube crumples into these perfect little ribbons is incredibly satisfying. Like, to the point where it almost looks like an animation @corridorcrew could do for one of their challenges. Just an endless loop of steel tube crumpling...I'd fall asleep watching that...

  • @Red_Scorpian
    @Red_Scorpian Před 7 měsíci +1

    dude, i would love to have one of those pressed beams, like wow they are pretty!

  • @AvantNovis
    @AvantNovis Před 7 měsíci

    You guys rock I needed that

  • @user-db5qd3wd6z
    @user-db5qd3wd6z Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great stuff! Now you have to straighten them out again 😂

  • @modraccin9514
    @modraccin9514 Před 7 měsíci

    The vertically crushed square tubes look very pleasing. I would buy table legs with these optics.

  • @WoodworkerDon
    @WoodworkerDon Před 7 měsíci +8

    I've always enjoyed the Lasagna-fication of these tubes since the first time you crushed some. Prrritti Guud.

    • @HydraulicPressChannel
      @HydraulicPressChannel  Před 7 měsíci +5

      And I have still a lot of those tubes so you might see some funny faces on them in future shorts videos :D

    • @WoodworkerDon
      @WoodworkerDon Před 7 měsíci

      @@HydraulicPressChannel 🤪👀

  • @themarkham123
    @themarkham123 Před 7 měsíci

    1:38 look at those adorable froggy faces! 🐸

  • @Florian24
    @Florian24 Před 7 měsíci +2

    i would rate this 9/11

  • @GranmaMiller
    @GranmaMiller Před 7 měsíci +1

    I love how sometimes they fold up and resemble frog faces 🐸

  • @ULTRAOutdoorsman
    @ULTRAOutdoorsman Před 7 měsíci

    I know nothing about civil engineering but it seems like these tubes are amazingly well made based on how they collapse

  • @Perplexer1
    @Perplexer1 Před 7 měsíci

    It makes a delicious looking pattern.

  • @carlexplores8709
    @carlexplores8709 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Interesting to see that the strongest steel buckles from the bottom, whilst the others from the top. I will need to find out why!

  • @FixingWithFriends
    @FixingWithFriends Před 7 měsíci

    Stainless looks pretty cool as it heats up.

  • @theangrypainter826
    @theangrypainter826 Před 7 měsíci

    You made art!

  • @mrchowhua7933
    @mrchowhua7933 Před 7 měsíci

    Those look really cool. You could sell them as table ornaments.

  • @ericm8811
    @ericm8811 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Hey hydraulic press channel! Maybe put thermistor inside tube or aim temperature gun at the tube for interesting data! Also Stalatube should make you a stainless mountain bike so you can ride over lava safely! Ride ride ride!

  • @OB1canblowme
    @OB1canblowme Před 7 měsíci +1

    Next time bend and weldsome Hardox, Docol and Strenx plates into square tubing and do the same experiment. You tend to be able to make steel considerably stronger than any stainless steel alloy with the right alloying compounds and heat treatments

  • @heyarno
    @heyarno Před 7 měsíci

    Cold working tool steel would be interesting too.
    When it passes 200°C or so and the heat treatment wears off, it should be easier to deform.

  • @dalesmit7869
    @dalesmit7869 Před 7 měsíci

    satisfying to watch indeed. What will happend if you use round tube?

  • @JonDeth
    @JonDeth Před 7 měsíci +1

    *So, it looks like stainless was the bigger winner with what was selected for the torture tests.* I am not surprised after drilling stainless many times over the last 30 years. The metals added to create stainless alloy are typically brittle when compared to more common and affordable steels. *A lot of stainless is also often austenitic, so this means a low number of free electrons with the molecular bonds formed.*

    • @stestar09
      @stestar09 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Drilling stainless i find lower speed / higher pressure , heat is the enemy when cutting or drilling it's a tough material

    • @JonDeth
      @JonDeth Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@stestar09 absolutely. I have a plasma torch that makes punching a hole for a nut and bolt a much easier process than using my drill press. I avoid having to drill it at all costs.

  • @mann_idonotreadreplies
    @mann_idonotreadreplies Před 7 měsíci

    Nice headband dude

  • @VictorPanainte
    @VictorPanainte Před 7 měsíci

    Wow so interesting thanks

  • @Rubendybs
    @Rubendybs Před 7 měsíci

    We used to make turbo manifolds for our drift cars out of 304l instead of 316 because we believed they would do better with the heat and pressure. Wasnt expecting your results. But the 304 one looked a bit crooked in the press 🧐

  • @muffty1337
    @muffty1337 Před 7 měsíci

    I have already seen the Stala video :D

  • @pvic6959
    @pvic6959 Před 7 měsíci

    I wasn't going to go to the video sponsor at the end... but you said Jamie Hyneman and I HAD to go

  • @zukjeff
    @zukjeff Před 7 měsíci +1

    I would love to see how much stronger square tube is with round hollow pipe stood up inside it snug fit .

  • @970357ers
    @970357ers Před 7 měsíci

    You should start filming with a FLIR. Would be interesting to see things heating up.

  • @CameronSalazar2113
    @CameronSalazar2113 Před 7 měsíci

    I wonder if the Folding Pattern has to do with the initial first crush and its first fold shape or if the hardness and strength has a effect also on the Folding shape. TBH it would be a whole test to try like 3 of each materials and for each crush just change one variable like crushing speed, placement, angle, ect, but only one change at a time so we can see if it has a effect to many changed makes it hard to know why. But that you already know since your a full fledged scientist now with a goal to create a material more amazing then anything on earth "ICE7" I cannot wait! Another cool test I would kill to see but its pretty impossible to get on camera if you can do it, the idea is to make molten metal with a press due to friction\pressure I would even settle to see you weld 2 items together with friction and have a camera under like the hole to see if we can see the edges glow while it's being pushed through.

  • @user-bh8cg1cl2z
    @user-bh8cg1cl2z Před 7 měsíci

    Cool helmet man.

  • @marksmithson1414
    @marksmithson1414 Před 7 měsíci

    This is some extreme temperature on that steel

  • @Nandrith
    @Nandrith Před 7 měsíci +5

    While I really like this sort of video I'm a bit sad that you didn't use any strong alloyed steelin the comparison.
    That said, I am glad you used 355 instead of the very common and weaker 235 steel.
    I am also impressed how much force some of the stainless steel took - in my mind, stainless steel was always something very weak.
    And while there are steel grades that are a lot stronger, it still beat the basic steel very easily.

    • @MrRedRye
      @MrRedRye Před 7 měsíci +3

      You can find grades of stainless steel at almost all strength levels depending on how much you're willing to spend. There are many types of duplex and super duplex stainless that match the strongest grades of "normal" steel.

  • @Pittsteel21
    @Pittsteel21 Před 7 měsíci

    Long time fan here Love you videos not sure if you’re aware but there’s a lot of people stealing your content on TikTok I’ve been reporting the accounts to TikTok when I come across them.

  • @Kheopsyco
    @Kheopsyco Před 7 měsíci

    what temperature you reach at max with this torch before the steel begin to loose its strenght?

  • @mango_steve
    @mango_steve Před 7 měsíci +1

    try the unbreakable glass against the hydraulic press

  • @realityjunky
    @realityjunky Před 7 měsíci

    Does the Lean Duplex STALA630D come with google eyes standard or only special order?

  • @BradenJohnYoung
    @BradenJohnYoung Před 7 měsíci +2

    I didn't expect the it to fold like thick caramel. Very enjoyable to watch

  • @chrishb7074
    @chrishb7074 Před 7 měsíci

    Can you make the crushed stainless ones into large candle holders for Christmas ?

  • @porkpie2884
    @porkpie2884 Před 7 měsíci

    Very artistic crushing

  • @gamingborger
    @gamingborger Před 7 měsíci

    is it good or bad i'm like 'i'm melting' with each tube crushed?

  • @DrxSlump
    @DrxSlump Před 7 měsíci

    The press got nothin' on plastic eye stickers at 2:18

  • @Simon-qh1ys
    @Simon-qh1ys Před 7 měsíci

    Next project: "Installing an LS pump on our press"

  • @mini4x
    @mini4x Před 7 měsíci

    These are art works you should sell these !

  • @Dolbytube
    @Dolbytube Před 7 měsíci

    What was the wall thickness? 1.5mm , 2 mm?

  • @xpndblhero5170
    @xpndblhero5170 Před 7 měsíci

    That is so fkn satisfying.... 😮❤

  • @gth042
    @gth042 Před 7 měsíci +6

    What happened to the electrical panel in the background? It looks cleaner!

  • @mattmatthew2440
    @mattmatthew2440 Před 7 měsíci

    You look very happy, theres plenty of fish in the sea,

  • @ThePontiacgto65
    @ThePontiacgto65 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The heat test is exactly what happened at the World Trade Center on 9/11😢

  • @GrigRP
    @GrigRP Před 7 měsíci

    Does fire melt steel beams

  • @AlienLivesMatter
    @AlienLivesMatter Před 7 měsíci

    6:46 interesting observation about increasing height under heat
    0:31 do sponsors enforce specific outcomes in return for their collaboration?

  • @-MindDrive-
    @-MindDrive- Před 7 měsíci

    how much would you charge to sell that tube after you squished it into a ribbon tube?

  • @DaveC2729
    @DaveC2729 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I'd like to see a broader comparison. Not only mild steel and different grades of stainless, but different grades of high carbon tool steels as well. Also test them with something other than the press. I bet some that do poorly against the press will do well against for example a drop hammer, and vice versa. If you can manage to fly overseas and do some of it in America, I'm sure channels like Kentucky Ballistics, Ballistic High Speed and Demolition Ranch would help you test them against bullets too.

    • @lilpenguin092
      @lilpenguin092 Před 7 měsíci +1

      You want the "Hydraulic Press Channel" to use things other than a hydraulic press? One of us is going to be unhappy, but I just like to watch things go squish. I watch other channels when I want to learn hardcore materials science

    • @DaveC2729
      @DaveC2729 Před 7 měsíci

      @@lilpenguin092 Ahh don't get so judgy, it's not sacrilege and they've branched out before. Maybe it'd be something that went on their 'Beyond the Press' channel.

    • @assepa
      @assepa Před 7 měsíci

      I don't think you can buy tubes made out of carbon tool steel. Highest I can find is s690.

    • @DaveC2729
      @DaveC2729 Před 7 měsíci

      @@assepa That's a good point. It's _tool_ steel not _tube_ steel, so factories may not make it in tubes. You probably can only get bars and ingots. :P Still, you can test bar vs bar, ingot vs ingot.

    • @assepa
      @assepa Před 7 měsíci

      @@DaveC2729 sure but the press parts are also made from tool steel, so then what exactly will you be testing ;)

  • @lImbus924
    @lImbus924 Před 7 měsíci

    When will you finally start selling those fine pieces of Art ?

  • @ChannelScottify
    @ChannelScottify Před 7 měsíci +1

    You need to specifically test the statement: JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS. Asking for a fren.

  • @ericdanielson1138
    @ericdanielson1138 Před 7 měsíci

    heck id by a piece of the folded stainless.

  • @mbmann3892
    @mbmann3892 Před 7 měsíci

    What happened to testing bridge designs that could take the most pressure Is that for subscribers only?

  • @ebnertra0004
    @ebnertra0004 Před 7 měsíci

    Ah yes, the high-strength stainless steel hollow section

  • @hughaskew6550
    @hughaskew6550 Před 7 měsíci

    We need to see Hannah much more often.

  • @b.s.7693
    @b.s.7693 Před 7 měsíci

    For a real strength test, you must bring the materials to an equal temperature and not expose them to fire for a certain time. By doing so, all materials experienced different temperatures, depending on their heat conductivity...

    • @Ultimaximus
      @Ultimaximus Před 7 měsíci

      If the steel is going to be used as building material, wouldn't this be a more relevant test to see how they'd continue to stand in a fire?

    • @b.s.7693
      @b.s.7693 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Ultimaximus from this point of view, yes

  • @infofoolygun
    @infofoolygun Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wäre kool die Temperatur zu wissen 🤩🍒🙋🏻‍♀️

  • @1337fraggzb00N
    @1337fraggzb00N Před 7 měsíci +1

    Press fuel can‘t melt steel beams.

  • @lonwillis783
    @lonwillis783 Před 7 měsíci

    Yes thank You 😀😃😄😁

  • @HeathcliffeMcHarris
    @HeathcliffeMcHarris Před 7 měsíci

    I wonder how hot the flame is...

  • @serta5727
    @serta5727 Před 7 měsíci

    Crushing it!🎉

  • @ethanmisner
    @ethanmisner Před 7 měsíci

    This man bears a striking resemblance to flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers 😮 he’s even got the gapped front teeth!!!!

  • @u.e.u.e.
    @u.e.u.e. Před 7 měsíci

    Wow! Interesting to see so different characteristics. 😃👍

  • @Trash-Castle
    @Trash-Castle Před 7 měsíci

    Here I am thinking flea started pressing stuff with an accent

  • @sakulundell3055
    @sakulundell3055 Před 7 měsíci

    Olis aika mielenkiintoinen jos näitä ja muita hiili-teräs ja dublex-teräksiä kokeilisi -30-50°c asteisena. Rosterihan kestää kuulemma kylmää enemmän.

  • @ChadRazorback
    @ChadRazorback Před 7 měsíci

    Get some engine pistons, rods, and crankshafts and see what carnage you can do with them. Maybe even an old engine block, force the piston/rod down into it and see if you can explode the whole thing.

  • @dimitar4y
    @dimitar4y Před 7 měsíci +3

    now do it again with intumescent paint on it to show why that's useful.

  • @MaxMustermann-yj1wz
    @MaxMustermann-yj1wz Před 7 měsíci +2

    Crush some big cast steel things 😊

  • @moefuggerr2970
    @moefuggerr2970 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Heat

  • @teropiispala2576
    @teropiispala2576 Před 7 měsíci

    Stainless steels heat much easier than regular steel. It's obvious for example when tigwelding.
    That's because emissivity in thermal spectrum is way much lower. If comparing strength vs temperature, stainless steels would win even greater margin

    • @heyarno
      @heyarno Před 7 měsíci

      And the heat conductivity is lower, so the heat focuses more in one spot.

    • @stestar09
      @stestar09 Před 7 měsíci +1

      That must be why drilling & cutting of stainless steel is a harder process, because the heat doesn't dissipate as well & burns the bits & blades out . I perform both cutting & drilling with low speeds & higher pressure for longevity of the tool or bit

    • @teropiispala2576
      @teropiispala2576 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@stestar09 It’s not about heat. The main reason is, most stainless steel’s are work hardening. It means, any kind of rubbing can harden it so hard it can destroy a drill bit. That happens very easily when drilling by hand. In a drill press, where you can take off proper chips, the problem can be avoided.
      Another reason is so called gumminess, which makes steel behave like gum and also stick into surface. Try to tap stainless without high quality high pressure tapping fluid, and you know. There’s not much heat involved in hand tapping, but these two properties cause problems.

  • @DigitalCraft367
    @DigitalCraft367 Před 7 měsíci

    Next crush Isabela from Encanto doll with Hydraulic Press

  • @joemarchinski914
    @joemarchinski914 Před 7 měsíci

    i love your channell and basic rednneck approach to science...👍👍 blessed be to both of you 🌏🌎🌍❤️🤍💙🙂

  • @CelestinaakaClonaClox9999
    @CelestinaakaClonaClox9999 Před 7 měsíci

    This is the first time I saw your face

  • @riba2233
    @riba2233 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Wow this lean duplex is no joke!

  • @lonwillis783
    @lonwillis783 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks!

  • @matthewhafner962
    @matthewhafner962 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Jet Fuel can't melt steel beams

  • @jethrox827
    @jethrox827 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Is chromoly steel stronger than stainless and mild?

    • @HydraulicPressChannel
      @HydraulicPressChannel  Před 7 měsíci +2

      I think at least on room temperature there is probably chromoly alloy that does even better than lean duplex

  • @tateseacrest4609
    @tateseacrest4609 Před 7 měsíci

    Essentially 9/11 the towers did the exact same thing planes hit the towers and the press actied like the floors above the inferno the inferno was the propane torch here. Once the jet fuel heated the steel probably accelerated by the massive amount of oxygen blasting though the building it just buckled and all the floors fell though the tower collapsing it

  • @kccustom1
    @kccustom1 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Should have used jet fuel

  • @andie_pants
    @andie_pants Před 7 měsíci

    No Pekka and Jaime?

  • @fortitudevalance8424
    @fortitudevalance8424 Před 7 měsíci +5

    It depends on how the metal is formulated and shaped.

    • @lilpenguin092
      @lilpenguin092 Před 7 měsíci

      It actually all depends on it's molecular structure

  • @Rshex
    @Rshex Před 7 měsíci +2

    Try it with titanum 😍😍

    • @HydraulicPressChannel
      @HydraulicPressChannel  Před 7 měsíci +4

      Great idea! I will do part2 with different metals under fire. Titanium should do super well

    • @WoodworkerDon
      @WoodworkerDon Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@HydraulicPressChannel my Titanium implants seem to be holding up to my increasing mass. 😂 Thankfully I'm not a Hydraulic Press. 👍 Nor am I on Fire; even though it does get hot here in the desert. 🏜

  • @draytonkk
    @draytonkk Před 7 měsíci

    so if steel needs to get a lil red to deform at 10 tonnes compared to 16 normally, how did a fire near the top of the twin towers cause them to collapse when the supporting structure that high up is holding 10% the weight the same supporting structure at the base is but the steel only went down to 60%ish the normal strength, for a slow deformation, not a sudden and quick failure... the math don't add up for what is told. if a plane was going to take a tower of that design down it would have done so soon after the plane hit or not at all, not a good while after then a sudden and coincidently very controlled looking manner, like wouldn't the majority of the damage be on the side of impact with the wings and engines doing less damage as they smash into the tower and cause a collapse with a tendency to lean as it does? you would think an uncontrolled failure of the structure would cause a wider area of debris then a couple blocks in any direction, and only a few other buildings damaged beyond what would be considered minor, it just doesn't add up intuitively in my mind no matter how I think it through, especially after seeing this, oh well, classic murica, anything to go to war for oil control

    • @redcat9436
      @redcat9436 Před 7 měsíci

      You need a new tin foil hat.