Man Collects Outlaw Motorcycle Club Biker Cuts
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- čas přidán 24. 05. 2021
- On this episode we talk biker news about a man who was interviewed for the LA times who Collects Outlaw Biker Cuts And Memorabilia. Members from the club sent him early hells angels, satans slaves and straight satans biker cuts and memorabilia. He has a vault full of MC history full interview here
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My dad got to keep his hells angels stuff I got one of his patches on my wall I'm technically a member but prefer to keep my self safe
#GHOSTIN SOSE
As an alternative viewpoint people should be happy he is doing this. He obvious takes great precautions to protect sensitive things keeps it in a vault. He is preserving the culture and the history. He should be thanked not hated.
Great comment
i agree except him chopping parts up to make that bike is pretty wack. thats not custodianship
The clubs are preserving there own history guarantee sonny has shit loads of memorbilia from day 1 to now and other members, they dont need some random dude whos never been in a 1%er MC or in any MC collecting there memorbilia that he never earned. What he should do is give all that stuff to the MC now thats what he should do. Members worked there ass off and bleed tooth and nail to be in those MC and he's just collecting it like there a sports team definitely isn't cool
@@HodgeySYL81 he bought it from club members
@@xtremefab6752 club members that are no longer members which he shouldn't have only members should have this stuff not a guy who just collecting it who has never been in a 1%er mc why you think he's had people threatening his life?
I've been following that guy for a while... he's preserving it without disrespecting anyone and everything he gets is from members or family of dead members. Littiraly putting his life on the line to preserve what we all hold dear because American museums sure as hell won't. I love it.
MC history IS American history. 🤟
👊👊👊
Love the museum! Like it or not, this is part of the American culture. I remember 99% of all of this. Takes me back.
SOSE do a show on CLUB TATTOOS!! That would be a great topic !! MLH&R
Ok gonna think on that one
Good shout
Please do Chopper Sosa!
Would love to see a club tattoo show.
Agree
You don't earn the patch, you earn the right to wear it.
Sose The Ghost, I believe if you leave your Club and you’re supposed to give everything back then that’s what you do.
Yes i agree
Unless becoming a lifer an retiring out of said club in good standings I believe it should stay with you. Maybe not the cut but, shirts, hats an so on thats different
@@dakotabauer3499 agreed💯
@@dakotabauer3499 retired members Keep their cuts, some clubs have different rules for that tho.
Do we know for a fact that that was the protocol in the 60’s and 70’s to turn your stuff in. Instead of being hated I think he should be celebrated because of the fact that he does have a passion of this. Name any 1% club that posts about their history and past members on the regular not just when they pass. Who knows where this stuff would be if he did not take the time to track these people down to get their story and save history.
Great point of view
Theres reasons clubs dont post history man...as fascinating as this culture is..it will never be as fascinating as the fact that u dont honestly know shit unless u have patched into a club and lived that life...not to mention iv hear rumors this guy buys all this stuff with a huge family inheritance and iv witness firsthand he shits on anyone who questions whats hes doing, I could be wrong but i personally just dont agree with what hes doing, I appreciate it and i get it but i do not agree
I was mistaken if you go on the Frisco HA Instagram they do post about some of their history. Now with all do respect the clubs that he is collecting photos, cuts, cards etc. from are a far cry from what they are today some don’t even exist anymore so should they just be forgotten? I can’t speak on how he comes by the things he does weather he is given these things or buys them but that is his own business in my opinion. Also if I had a love and passion for something that no one gave a shit about and then all of a sudden I am being talked shit to for one reason or another I’m going to talk shit back. If you are not emotionally capable of having shit talked to you maybe that person should stay off the internet. I am a firm believer in “ if you don’t have anything nice to say then don’t say it at all. “
@@jaredwilson1013 if you hang around and actually know club members and who to follow theres ALOT of history shared, and someone whos never actually been a club member cant profit off of the history
@@dylanstringer6609- your correct! He even posts photoshopped pics & talks smack about patchholders on his IG story, saw some examples today.
I’m not sure how I feel about how he is going about it, but the idea of an independent 3rd party (safe from the feds) creating a museum to preserve the collective history of the lifestyle deserves some merit. So many clubs loose huge parts of their history to evidence lockers and police vandalism, it would be cool to see a collective effort to preserve a piece of it.
I just wondered if hes gettin them from the feds
Yeah that be crazy insane if he was.
@@DemonsRow he said in the video he is getting from current and retired members
Some of the the police files and mug shots he definitely getting from somebody with police background. I think lots of memorabilia would end up destroyed lost or in the garbage bin since the family members in possession are senile or don’t have communication with the current members and this fellow is paying high dollars to them. He is actually collecting this items not to preserve the culture principally but to sell it to the highest bidder in the future.
I think I follow this guy on IG. I wonder why he gets so much heat for this Collection. I personally am glad someone is saving this stuff if we don’t learn and respect history it will be lost and biker history lost is just sad. I saw the bank vault reminds me of a brewery I go to a New Jersey that has a bank vault because it was an old bank and They didn’t wanna spend money on remodeling love that brewery by the way it’s called man skirt brewery. I agree with it being club property I also feel that the clubs should allow this to preserve the culture of history. It’s such a swing saw thing that I can go either way with a really like I said I’m glad somebody is preserving the stuff history is sad if we erase the wrong history we’re doomed to repeat it
Thats true greatcomment
I disagree with that. It is Club property. No one has the right to give it away. If clubs want a museum they can open one of their own
@@stonedsilly1 tho I agree with you, I feel history is being lost, between the government and this soft generation they are doing there best to take everything and erase everything they don’t like maybe the best way to save the history and culture is to have it off site taken care of maybe it may even influence a new generation to ride and join
I'll be honest I do believe what you said. It's American history that would be a shame to lose this.
The only history being documented is members not following club rules.
This fellow is preserving history.Lets say a rival MC got a hold of memorabilia of a club they hate all that good stuff would be gone at a bonfire party.Keep it in the vault.
That is how I found you. I typed in Outlaw Archive and you were in the results. Great channel! 👊🏻
You have kept me from making noob mistakes that would have gotten me in trouble and for that I am grateful. You Sir are the Professor of MC culture and facts keep the information flowing.
Much love im glad
My wife's uncle was one of the original hells angels and has so much cool stuff it will make your head spin
#GHOSTIN (the old man)
It’s a great thing that’s some will look down on, yet it should be held in great respect. What he’s doing is what should have been done decades ago. Preserving how we became and what we have become today. With thousands of offshoots of original clubs . I’d love for this to become a museum for all to see and admire.
I like the idea of a museum, as I've often thought the same thing. More so for the older small clubs who don't exist anymore or patched over or whatever the deal. Something that at least shows "we were here and we did exist" rather than to be forgotten for all time.
I see this channel growing fast. Much respect sose. Soon I’ll be on 2. Best channel for sure.
Thank you i appreciate you
It would be FUCKING SWEET to have a MC Museum.
Respect as always!!
Much respect
#Ghostin appreciate all you do brother, love man
Ash i appreciate you my Gho⚡t
#GHO⚡TIN Missed your show Sose but I'm loving the vault of history. Peace out brother
#Gho⚡tin peace
A little while back there was a show made called American MC. I would love to hear your perspective on what goes down on that show. Some of what you talk about on your channel is shown, but more politely due to cameras filming.
Ive never seen it gonna see
@@DemonsRow yeah Check it out Sose. I was like kinda into it. See what u think.
I would love to look at all the stuff he has. I understand no one else but the club should have any kind of gear but this is cool that someone is saving history.
I would too
So I've read the whole article and what not, and as I'm associated with a club I honestly think it's cool he's archiving the history of it!
He even admits that some stuff won't be seen for legal reasons, so good on him
I saw his page to see what hes about i really dont like him gonna talk about tomm at church
I'm not in a club but it makes sense that you worked hard and you put in lots of your time and life to earn the cuts and be considered a brother, you should keep your cut after you retired because you earned it. I would agree giving it back if the clubs kicked out out.. but retired from a club that's a whole life you dedicated to it and I believe you earned it and you should get to keep it and do whatever you want with it.
Great point of view
Usually only retired brothers get to keep their cut.. so he has to be getting the memorabilia from retired members. It’s cool.. but yeah. Property of the club still.
#Ghostin! Interesting! A lot of guts to have all this from many clubs, but I respect it!
Yes def crazy
I love your intro its amazing how did you do it and the theme is awesome as well where you get the theme
I edited myself the music is jacob lizotte
@@DemonsRow it’s sick my guy respect to u and your club brother
#ghostin, been a minute but still loving the content my dude
#Gho⚡tin much love
A museum of 1%er clubs would be awesome and a credit to the community in preserving 1 percenter history.
Def not just 1% history
@@SoseTheGhost Love 1%er clubs, especially you guys.
Absolutely brother 💯
Sturgis might be a good place for a museum. Big clubs should pool resources and make it happen.
I feel if it's done this way, respectfully and for education. I think it's a good move.
But who am I to say.
I'm not part of the biker community but I like to learn about it all different types of clubs and the things they do. If a club do a museum of their history I would pay to see it
I'm not sure if this has ever come up before but my question is: Did you have to get permission from your club to do the Demon Row TV on CZcams? I was just curious if you had to ask to do these episodes. I apologize if this has already been brought up.
That would be cool to do a historical museum of outlaw bicker
All clubs not just outlaw
@@SoseTheGhost that would be awsome for sure
Brother ghost I sorry I missed it but I finally got to sleep but I'm watching it now much respect for all of the story's you share and keeping it real love you brother L&R
You can already see the loss of culture from this type of thinking. I understand getting shit back from former members, but there should be an MC historical society that's not club bound. That way clubs can donate parts of history along with the stories so future generations can see the roots. Clubs will feel safe knowing the stuff won't get defaced, and it will help the culture grow, and preserve a future.
Yes i agree
Not a biker but I do enjoy learning & history. Not being in the scene it seems like there are a lot of rules & BS stuff to have to get together with friends and ride. I think the old memorabilia is really neat & good stories that go along with it. It's taking that member or club & keeping him alive in history. It's a respectful way for everyone to enjoy a little MC history IMO. Being a dirt rider everybody is welcome to ride.
nice content man!!
#Ghostin #Tx still not 22. Cool collection. Most people collect something might as well have something cool. I agree if you earned something it should be yours just like if you buy something. But then again I also agree that the center patch and all affiliated patches are club property.
#Gho⚡tin 👊👊👊
Kinda like having to return an uniform when you stop working somewhere.
Having spent a reasonable amount of time being a member in the MC community. Protocol is protocol. Even when we sort of think it might be a bit much. The 1%ers especially really follow it tooth and nail. And for a good reason. That being said, I think it’s cool as shit what this guy is doing. Back in the day he would have never gotten away with that, things have definitely changed. But at the end of the day, best I could say is I wish him luck...🤷♂️
Thanks for stoppin thru
#GHOSTIN!😎 Another great video! I am going to get some Demons Row Merch for sure 👊
Much love aaron
Not related, but its funny how you have the same few riding clips breaking up every video and for what ever reason I never get tired of seeing them. Love the channel. #ghostin
Its to keep the people who have ADD from losing attention
#Ghostin. Good to see ya.
#Gho⚡tin rob
I get what he's trying to do but at the same time it's wrong. He has properties that don't belong to him he didn't earn it and he has no right possessing it. Club properties is just that argue if you want but when you leave a club its to be turned back in or it's being collected one way or another. He says he's had death threats? Buddy those are not threats they are a promise from whomever said it to you. One day your collection could be your life. 1% clubs and also non 1% clubs take this life seriously club colors are earned yes you earn each and every patch but your don't earn them to keep them you earn the right to wear them its as simple as that.
I agree
I'm going to go with you on this...He did not earn it. Without permission from all clubs. He should not keep without permission. I think in like a museum feature though with permission of all clubs mother chapters agreeing and signed legal contract is the only way this can end up in positive manner. With a %cut of all tickets or work out deals.
Exactly club property. No. I don't think anyone should keep it. Because i believe the wrong person can use it and cause alot of issues in a club. Point of taken it is to keep club protected.
I was taught from an old school 1% who said back in the day the way you earned your 1% patch was you went out and took it. Back in those days they would beat you down just for wearing a vest and chain wallet or even trying to look close to how the true outlaws did. So by keeping them and nobody doing anything about it he did some outlaw shit. Now that may be an unpopular opinion but the old schools were out collecting everyone else’s cuts and keeping theirs on their back! There is a reason many clubs used to wear a 1% and now we only have the Big 5 left.
Its cool to see these kinds of things, I never rode a motorcycle before, but as someone who was a metalhead and grew up in a Bandito town I've been fascinated by MC culture for a while.
Much love
Club rules only apply to club members. Either set up a formal contract stating that in the case of death all items revert back to the club or deal with the fact that the relatives have every right to sell the stuff.
#Ghostin I believe if you retire and get out the right way then maybe keep your cut but only certain aspects of it
Very true
#GHOSTIN Down Under 🇦🇺✌🏻🤙🏻
#Gho⚡tin smitty
@@SoseTheGhost cheers Brotha 🤙🏻 I was only in a social club back a few years ago for 15 years..
When I left I turned ally patches inn even my 5/10yrs Patches I felt I did ern ,but... Just knew all patches are for the club's...
I'm hanging around BACA & I know there's a fine, a very big fine if you don't return any patches inn when you leave ✌🏻🤙🏻🍻
Respect to All Brothers
Big question: Do any MC except trikes ? I had a nice Electra glide ultra. Had to have knees replace now I can’t hold up a regular bike. Would I be excepted. Hearts there for an mc
Yes they will
I'm split. On it. I believe that if you earn it its yours, but at the same time club property is club property. Maybe there could be a patch to replace club property
#GHOSTIN ✊🏻
Honestly I’ve been following him for a while now and in his words he believes this is history that needs to be remembered so it won’t be forgotten. I think it’s a great idea. I get why it would piss off some clubs but he has things from clubs that don’t even exist anymore (old Axe Men, Gypsy Joker, etc.) He isn’t doing anything to deface these clubs but trying to spread knowledge of the culture. Just my opinion though...
I understand he does have 81 cuts
Gypsy Jokers still exist
#Ghosten just started riding working on different drills
Take your time and ride safe
Check out MCrider on CZcams. He has great videos for beginner riders and experienced riders. Road skills and road strategy.
@@dylanvisitacion8618 will do thanks for the reference
@@SoseTheGhost ride safe as well
Love your videos keep up the good work
Thank you glad you like them
I think there should be some type of museum for the culture. I love hearing the history especially from the old timers. #ghostin
Def would
I'm no expert but I'm sure that when they first signed up for the club that they would have been advised agreed to hand their stuff in if they left.
If that's the deal they made then they should honor it.
If you earned, it's yours. If you retire or leave on good standing, you should be able to keep it. If your membership is revoked, you lost it, you have no right to keep it. My thoughts.
Appreciate you Dylan
#GHOSTIN I love that you always have interesting topics. Awesome show Sose.
#Gho⚡tin thank you any ideas or videos you want me to speak on demonsrow@gmail.com
I think a museum of sorts would be a really cool thing. There was an organization that my husband and I belonged to out in Arizona. We left because we had family stuff to take care of. When we left, 2 patched members came to our apartment and collected the bottom rockers and other patches with the organization's logo. Because we were "out good" , we've got the chance to join back up if we want to.
Yea thats how it is
I feel it's disrespectful to the clubs, turn your shit in when you leave.............
Yea i agree
Never been around 1%ers but if military earn there uniforms and they defended the country. What makes MCs so much better? Just my 2cents.
Nobodys better then nobody
Why not preserve history.
This is actually a really impressive collection, i get clubs don’t want people having their club property but this is how people generations from now will know what old club gear looked like or how the bikes were. It keeps the culture going in a way that isn’t directly within the culture or under fed control
These come from fed auctions
Prospecting is the easy part keeping a patch once you patch in you're always fighting to keep your patch called a patch holder if you earned it you need to keep with your Club
If u leave In good standing you should be able to keep things however giving them to someone else shouldn’t be cool
Yes i agree
#Ghostin \}}}/
mokai
#GHOSTIN! Killer idea you got there! Id bet there's a LOT of people that would like to see old memorabilia from clubs back in the day! Id go see it if there was,but I understand that if your cut n patches are supposed to stay with the club then thats just how it is!
Ride safe,n keep those 2 wheels down,Sose.. Peace.
Yea we would have to use other things not cuts
I would 100% go to a mc museum and I think each club gets their own area to display their cuts and memorabilia
Be dope
#ghostin....TX
#Gho⚡tin C
A United MC museum would be awesome but club property is either put in the ground with the member or giving back nobody should have that much from so many clubs #gho⚡tin
Yes i agree
#Ghostin
Brother I have a quick story.
Other day I was riding my o6 ultra classic and could hear my bell under my bike ringing loud as hell. I could hear it over the wind the bike and everything. It's only a little 1inch bell.
What does that mean?
I think that means your angels was kickin ass lol
hey brother its good that he is keeping history alive and education here as we know is the key. we arent a bunch of criminals we are ppl with a sense of loyalty and respect and dignity . the states is alive with history and the biker culture for me is part of it keep shiney side up ppl and oh yeah GHOSTIN
#Gho⚡tin appreciate you
Yes I agree club property belongs to the club, but also at the same time this is the only guy I've seen doing this keeping the history and the truth behind the clubs and where they came from etc, as long as he's not flexin the colors, selling them, or anything in that nature but just purely out of the love for MC life keeping the rich history safely store away for future generations to come and learn is great, I think it would be fucking amazing to have an Outlaw/NonOutlaw MC museum but hell who am I. #GHOSTIN
Yea it doesnt just have to be outlaw
@@SoseTheGhost your right brother it don't any MC History being store for future generations to come would be great
#GHOSTIN I'd say as long as he don't flex it he would be relatively safe, just my opinion
#Gho⚡tin
#Ghostin, I'm trying to find a GHOSTIN hoodie and hat, where can I find those?
Www.demonsrowclothing.com the hat is www.demonsrow.com
My Dad was Buried with his cut no one ever took it and that's real and most clubs in the state respected everything he worked hard for and the blood his brother's and family put into his legacy . The state of Michigan at one time was a true brotherhood
Thats the real deal RIP 🙏🙏
@@DemonsRow Thank you it means a lot to me and the family but it means more to pop's God bless all that have the Balls to Ride and raise HELL our time is short unless we pull it together 💪🇺🇲
I believe that's Club property
Yes i agree
Da ghost i got one for u what happens in ur club when a member passes, to their club stuff, do u go re collect it or if hes got kids they allowed to hold it down?? Every club is different.....
They collect it unless you get buried with it
Honestly I think only lifers or retirees should BUT it's up to their local and national officers.
That intro song is badass bro.
I love this history and I wish I would see more clubs old memorabilia!!!! I love it when the American Pickers go to do a pic at old motorcycle enthusiasts places!!!
Def brother
#GHOSTIN here in Knox County, Kentucky! Had to respond to a structure fire yesterday, though. It was a total loss, but no injuries. Keep the rubber side down out there, brother!
You ok?
I saw the original vid. Incredible stuff. Rollin.
Oh yeah , what's the name of the band playing the intro of your show? i know it bud can't remember
Jacob lizotte
Haven't seen you on my wall for a couple of months. Dropping by to say, " Wut up! "
I drop 3x a week jay
@@DemonsRow You know why everyone likes you. Because you take the time to read every single comment ( you've never not like or response to any of my comments. ) So we're going to enjoy it while we can, because the day will come when it'll ( if it hasn't already ) be physically impossible to read every single comment by the sheer volume. You put a lot of time in you channel, you could just tell, so it's just going to keep growing. Well done, I'll stop by more often.
Here is a question. Is 81 the only guys who have trademarked their logo and name?
No alot of clubs do it
#Ghostin
Bro keep this up! Your the reason I just got my first 2 wheels
#Gho⚡tin congrats you serious?
@@DemonsRow yes sir just got a 1200 sportster knew I didn’t want to go in over my head from the start
#Ghostin.... Sose i got asked a question if u part of a mc but not a diamond club can u become a nomad without being a diamond?? Like if ya club is already up but not diamonds and say a brotha or two wants to turn same club into a nomad is that possible?
It is but its dangerous cuz alot of times nomads come set up shop
@@SoseTheGhost so the best step would either turn ya club or those few brothas turn diamond and then build from there? Cuz i was thinking same thing but told him id get back to him.on it
#GHOSTIN Big Love from Australia Brother.
#Gho⚡tin big love
Orale wat up Homie, Cee U on the road.. From the 818SFV..
What up homie
I think this awsome
History is and always will be our bigest gift
To our next generation to learn and understand our culture
Is that what CZcams is but just video and sound
Respect from kragon uk
We dont have possesion of the stuff on youtube
This puts the MCs in better standing with the public. Picture a large MC museum for public viewing, that would be amazing ❤️
Yea it would
The Awesome Content just keeps coming. #GHOSTIN
#Gho⚡tin
Maybe something like a military museum. As an old veteran I like to go and bring back memories, a museum in sturgis, every club maybe donate, I think members would be proud to see their colors there. Always proud to see my old military patches.
We need more then just sturgis
I think someone like this particular individual should be given permission to keep what he has. He is preserving the culture and quite obviously takes great care of everything. That being said, I’ve never been a part an MC but being a veteran I do understand loyalty and I believe that if yiu leave a club for any other reasons other than you died for your colors or you just retire after being a member for 30 years, everything you got from that club goes back to the club. Period. You made a commitment and for what ever reason you’re walking away from a very serious commitment or being forces away. Either way, be a man and give it back. #GHOSTIN
#Gho⚡tin great perspective
Club property - You can take it two ways. 1 - Its yours, you earned it both through deed and dollar. 2 - You went into it willingly agreeing that it was actual club property so now you are going back on your word. I understand #1 but agree with #2.
Very true
It would be so helpful to lots ppl to learn about the history of the MC culture in the US and to see how we became so big from 1%ers all the way to RC’s and SC’s
Yes so true
81% Club Property !!! Need blessings from Sonny .Love your Show !!! Teaching the 99% the way of Biker Culture .
Appreciate you
Big clubs usually have places similar to museums that they only allow member so see. And that’s the way it should be . History from those that made it
I think if you are founding member or been in it for over 25 years depending on the person and what they did for the club but you are mostly right in my opinion. Grew up in YO born in NYC .Thanks for the channel.
Salute
I feel like if I’m going to join something greater then myself, I should be ok with giving it back if I’m out. That TM and copy right laws protects that property? It doesn’t belong to members, it belongs to club. I think 1% clubs could benefit if sanctioned historic items into one museum, but that should be an approved participation choice for clubs. Great topic Sosa.
Truth def truth
I agree 100%! I'm too much of a puss(🤣🤣🤣) to join a club but being a Marine I totally get and love the brotherhood. There needs to be a club mecca that I can ride to and pay homage.
@@jcharleyjc there are plenty of RC and 99% clubs out there my man. Or slick back groups that just ride. 1% is not for everyone, in fact it’s not for most. It doesn’t make you a puss. I’m doing my process very slowly to make sure it’s right. Covid took away a lot last year, so I’m rebuilding myself first. So hit the scene and have fun, you’ll end where you need to be if you are true to yourself and know who you are. This channel definitely give you a window into what to expect. I love hearing his topics and seeing his insight in the real world. Or revalidating lessons I’ve learned.
This is one hell of a predicament. I feel dude is preserving MC history. But I also agree with leaving under good terms. Honestly I think clubs should support this collection. This guy is saving a huge chunk of history. And as long as he don’t act a fool, or do anything that cast a bad image of the MC culture. I think the preservation of these peace’s could be a great thing. And could help people embrace this culture
Yea hopefully hes not gettin it from the feds
Truth.
The rules are the rules, I don’t think this dude is doing anything wrong, it’s the members that are giving/selling the stuff to him, there disrespecting the club. But damn, love seein that stuff..
#GHOSTIN YEA I FEEL THAT’LL BE A DOPE IDEA. I remember you talking about bringing people on the show. Is that something that you still thinking bout doing???