The new Goggles 2 are an instant buy for me IF they will support the existing air units and vistas. If they won't then I don't care about the new goggles, the older V2 will simply be the superior goggles due to better compatibility.
Buy a few pairs if possible and keep in box. Because they are going to be like gold when they are out of stock/production being the only goggle to do both.
@@kingbirdfpv I'm sure it will have great range and penetration. But it will need to have the 1200mW hack and there needs to be a smaller, Caddx Vista-like Air Unit Lite before I will consider upgrading my quads.
@@kingbirdfpv if it provides range as good as the DJI FPV drone id have to bite on the new goggles whether they are backwards compatible or not. Otherwise I'd probably have to pass if they ain't backwards compatible & the new air unit doesn't really offer anything other than better image quality
So after hearing DJI statement on the non backwards compatibility- basically I got that they tried to give the fpv community hope that it will become backwards compatible but going off there previous actions ex. canvas mode fiasco , there just gonna discontinue the vista/air unit and make you buy the new v2 air unit.
Yea, I feel the same way. They made the drone compatible with the older goggles. So why not make the new goggles compatible with the AU/Vista. Typical DJI, and that's why I'm migrating all my drones away from DJI. They're going to eventually do to themselves, what FrSky did. Remember DJI, you're never too big to fail, and customers determine your future. Something a lot of companies of today could use a lesson in.
Good movement making drone compatible with Goggles V2 so if in the future they want to sell more new goggles and vista v1 and V2 units, they will have to make it compatible. Think that the drone is a good starting point for this people who wants to start making fpv cinematic videos and include it as other professional tool without the learning process of the traditional fpv systems.
@@javierortiz1981 nobody wants to lug around 5 different goggles for different crafts of various setups unless you are in production. As it is, an expensive tool that has zero crossover.
As a FPV Goggles V2 user I really hope they will make the new Goggles backwards compatible with the air unti and vista. Otherwise I will stay with my current ones.
@@NightRiderFPV DJI is not in it for the people. There a company so there focused on money. Backwards compatibility makes them less money so that’s no shocker they went that route. I don’t like that they are that way either and as much hate as they get they make great products….that work on release.
Was just about to buy the full kit off dji. With the golden ticket.. then you said goggles only compatible with the avata Nope Gonna wait until goggles are open
30:00 Who else noticed the mosquito next to Bubby's hair getting ready to "rip-it"? lol Seems like everyone is reviewing the DJI Avata, but your review is the best so far by a long shot! You really put it through the paces!
The prepared statement about the new goggles compatibility with older equipment. "DJI evaluate customer reaction and market demand" WTF, have they been ignoring all the Reddit, Twitter, FaceBook, etc. chatter? At this time I am not leaving DJI, but if they are going to be so disconnected with their customers I have fewer and fewer reasons to stay with DJI as other HD options are now out there.
My advice would be to get out before you're too heavily invested, unless you already are of course. If so, then do as I have, and find someone to take your old DJI gear off your hands. There are plenty of diehard DJI fans out there who would love to scoop up some used Goggles, Vistas and Air Units.
@@SCFPV That's horrible advice for anyone who already has DJI. What does "too heavily invested" mean anyhow? If someone has goggles and few quads setup, why would they sell everything at a loss? So, hypothetically, if person had goggles and two quads, what sell all the DJI stuff for what, $500-$600, maybe, then go and spend $600 to $1k to get into something else, just to say I don't have DJI? And then replace it with what? There are no other HD products that compare to DJI at this very moment. Sure there are a couple companies that are up and coming, but they aren't there yet. None of this means I am going to stay with DJI forever, but if my current stuff works, why sell it unless it is to replace it with something better?
Avatar said they working on a Modular hd0 goggles are looking better and better can use hd0 for racing. Avitar for free style. And it going to have video in and out i got to say hd0 is looking better and better
I just wanna say this is the vid I was looking for. All the other reviews were the same, some manual mode but they mostly did dives. You guys on the other hand just let it rip and really showed what the drone could do. When I do buy the Avata it definitely will be from your site.
If the new goggles were backwards compatible with the vista and dji airunit I would have ordered the Avata and goggles today. I hope DJI change there mind.
Dgi's problem is that they probably have it in their head that if people switch to another system AKA walk snail, then none of that hardware is compatible with their air units so why should their new stuff be compatible
same here. They have no idea how many money they lost with this move. Backward compatibility was there untill 2 weeks ago... then they decided to block it .
I think we need to make it known (politely, yet stern) that we need backwards compatibility. They can either sell thousands of goggles to the fpv community, or not. Fpv pilots will write off Dji if they don’t offer backwards compatibility.
@@ryanbroesche1711 Not totally unreal. I'm already migrating away from DJI. Some sucker out there will be overjoyed with excitement to take the old gear off my hands. There's one born every day. 🤷
Would have ordered the whole setup if they had announced the reverse compatibility of the goggles. Now I will wait and see what else comes out or if they “fix” the goggles to have legacy mode.
I’ve built 20+ drones for myself and others. Looks promising. New googles for their drones only are a clear no go for me. They can be off the charts quality but if they stay locked in DJI pre-built only they are worthless to me and won’t scale. I was literally about to but the full pro kit, in the cart, but no commitment to goggles being able to be used with my own builds with an updated air unit. I’ll move on. There are other options now and in the future. If DJI doesn’t want to open up to those that build their own drones by providing updated air units etc. That’s chill. I’ll move on and invest my money into a company more open to custom builds. I own 2 sets of DJI FPV goggles (v1 & v2) and own 20+ DJI / Caddx air units. I’m sure I’ll by 20+ more video transmitters in the future. Will see if they are DJI brand or someone else… There’s my customer feedback DJI. Your move… PS. To have to wait for customer demand / feedback on this issue is a clear indicator how out of touch with the FPV community you really are. I’d suggest DJI sorts that out or just sticks to “Mavic style” cinema drones.
Thank You!!!! I can’t believe DJI did not at least make the goggles compatible with the Air unit. I also had the complete kit in my cart and listened to this video when he said they did not work with the air unit. I just left the website-so much money was wasted on this company.
When will people learn that dji isn't an fpv company... we are a super super tiny fraction of thier sales... its like asking Android to incorporate apple tech... be happy we got anything from them
@@phynyxstryker lol what is remote id really gunna do? I've never even registered my quads... no cop has ever cared I was ripping a quad much less asked me for the required items to do so lol.
DJI just keeps killing it, what a crazy company. I was watching someone testing the radio systems on the mavics - and he said there is A LOT of headroom on the range that is not even used. When you first turn it on occusync boosts to like over 2-3 watts. Just crazy. There is still something special to me about building something myself. I understand how its hard it took me years to finally invest, but it has been so rewarding for me putting ELRS on a quad and getting it to work. Tweaking it how I want. Great job though DJI. If it wasn't for DJI I would NEVER have flown a drone.
DJI, you should make 2 things: - Make the new googles back compatible with OG Air Units. - Enable any form of HDMI/USB-C Video IN Than I'll buy that google right away!
In other review I've heard that it does support DLNA, which, although not the best solution, it is something that can be used for watching movies from a NAS in a local wifi network. Probably also from a smartphone if there are apps for that, like PLEX or something
seriously?!. how can dji be this ignorant. people have been for weeks saying they want it to work with the airunits/vista/link during the leaks.. bet seriously.. watch the reaction...
So currently the new goggles only work with the Avata. Guess that means I'm currently still waiting because I have ZERO interest in the Avata. Even if the new goggles weren't backwards compatible I would have ordered today if there was a new "Air Unit" that the new goggles work with and refitted all my quads.
No way I would refit all my AU/Vista quads, when they have perfectly capable systems in them already. DJI could easily make the Goggles backwards compatible, they just chose not to. DJI would love for you to refit it all though, and that's why the new goggles will work with the new AU when it arrives. Typical greedy corp.
@@SCFPV I would absolutely prefer the new goggles be backwards compatible. I have the v1 goggles and 11 quads running either a Vista or Air Unit. They’re all pushing 3 years old and pretty beat up so I’m going to be updating then within the next year either way. Being backwards compatible would be nice while I updated them one at a time but not a dealbreaker for me because I have to update them anyways.
DJI Team --- I'm heavily invested in the current fpv air units and air unit lites. I would upgrade my current goggles if they were backwards compatible. As a quadriplegic I have limited hand mobility. I'm not sure how accessible the touchpad will be if it requires multiple finger gestures. But they look great!
@@SmokytheBear6969 yep I build and race them. Building takes about 10 times longer than anyone else but I get it done. I've always had great support from my local multigp chapter friends. I've modded my transmitter some and fly better than I every thought possible. It's not as exhilarating as the Motocross race they put in the chair but it is an awesome adrenaline rush 👍
Great vid. As someone that's invested in dji v1/v2, hd zero, and walksnail's system, can't help myself and ordered my avata pro kit. One thing that I am curious to see is if this has the same limitations that the dji app does for flying zones. If so, that may take away from the whole purpose of a cinewhoop. e.g. Can I fly inside? Can I pull this thing out anywhere and fly it? Or is the dji app going to prevent us from doing that. If so, not sure why they went with a cinewhoop form factor; that kinda takes away/limits us, from what a cinewhoop is for....
Down right shady that the old goggles are compatible with the new drone, but new goggles aren't compatible with air units. Clearly they can be compatible and DJI either didn't care to put in the work to enable this, or they are purposely holding off in order to sell more of this new cinewhoop. Either way, hate the decision. Drone itself seems promising. Goggles seem great too.
Yup. It's GAME OVER for me, for this exact reason. It also exposed how much "control" DJI has, vs custom builds. The no backwards compatibility stunt is a big F.U. message from DJI, IMHO. Doesn't sit well with me.
The durability surprised me the most! And I hear that the shell will be sold separately to fix yourself! I thought using the motion controller would be a gimmick but being able to use the head tracker is wild!!!
So, 12:10 (Air/Vista compatibility) is a deal breaker for me. Sure, it might come later after people complain, but why? Why alienate your current user base? Second, having to use their battery is kinda bullshit. So, later DJI. I'll stick to Fatshark or HDZero.
@@mikebergman1817 I get that, but why? It's a bad business move. They have a ton of people invested in countless air units and vistas. Why come out of the gate with a new goggle that none of your current user base can use? They're either stupid or greedy.
"DJI will evaluate customer reaction", Basically if we don't buy the Avata or their air unit v2 when it comes out, they might expand compatibility to the og air unit.
I am really confused. Do goggles 2 work with dji fpv drone? Forget about caddx and vistas. Are goggles 2 compatible with dji fpv drone that they released in 2021?
called these guys late one night they called me back next day had a great chat appreciate the insight cant wait to dive into fpv good crew from what I can tell
I would like to upgrade my goggles from v1 to g2 - It NEEDS to work with existing air units/ vista's or if the tech has changed with a signicant improvement in latency/ video quality I'd be willing to get new air units. Make it happen!
Must be a lot of new people to the hobby unaware of DJI's 10+ year tradition of my phantom 2 controller doesnt work with my phantom 3 controller doesnt work with my inspire controller doesnt work with my mavic controller doesnt work with my fpv
The new FPV drone seems cool and the new Goggles 2 look awesome. It is just a bad and sad decision that they won't work with the Air units. Maybe better Air units will come and they make the right decision to open it up to the FPV Air units :)
That's a very difficult purchase decision if DJI doesn't allow DJI Goggles 2 to work with DJI Air Unit. I don't like to carry two goggles if I want to fly Avanta and other quads + Air Unit.
“Dji will evaluate customer reaction and market demand for expanding air unit/vista compatibility” Translated: “We are aware of what customers want but intend to sell more of our new products and have no intention of compatibility with older products unless we determine it’s limiting new product sales volume.”
The way that DJI is selling this drone is maddening. If you want the new goggles, they didn't create a "package" combo kit with the traditional remote, so you have to buy the stupid "motion controller" throw it in the trash, and then buy the stick controller separately. The drone is already overpriced, yet they felt the need to nickle-and-dime us for the controller. The best part is almost every reviewer on CZcams got the Avada with the stick remote and reviewed it that way (only passively mentioning the motion controller in the review (because they know it is a toy)) is just a slap in the face.
really interesting! I quite like the motion controller. I thought it was stupid at first, but I like it in your video. I hear the new DJI goggles won't connect to the DJI FPV :( it's strange Avata can work with old DJI glasses but vice versa new glasses can't work with older... I guess they want to increase sales of the DJI Avata... durability looks great
I am definitely interested in the system. I don't have a cine whoop and would like to add one to my fleet, but it is very important to me that the new goggles work with the old vistas and air units. I won't be buying this if the new goggles are not backwards compatible with the old systems.
Pulled the trigger just for the new controller. Needed to experience that… but I personally can’t stand cinewhoops and I’m really curious if the sound can be reduced by removing prop guards etc
The DJI statement explaining the "we will evaluate reactions" shows that they know that removing backwards compatibility is a bad thing to do and they did it anyways, biggest IDGAF attitude from that corporate, I'd rather bet my money on Walksnail for a long-term system for the community, not corporate greed
I love Rotor riot, but after the statement that the new goggles don't work with the air unit, I was expecting a much stronger reaction, which by the way you can see in their faces! The most crucial thing about the new goggles, that has to be implemented, is the compatibility with the air unit and I hoped rotor riot is going to realize it right away and be the first ones to publicly state it.
Awesome Review my dudes. I’m impressed 🤘🏻👊🏻👊🏻 I definitely would love to see the goggles used with our traditional fpv drones or have the new Air units compatible with the DJI v2 goggles.
I upgraded to dji early on in the v1 and was blown away, sure i had to sell off brand new(ish) HDO goggles and a bunch of vtxs at a loss but....its digital so. Now this, if they come out with a good air unit to pair up with the goggles im a buyer, screw it, cant take it with you$$$
Back compatibility of the new DJI googles with air unit / cadx vista is a no-brainer, especially if DJI plans to stop making the V1 and V2 googles! What would be really great though, is a new air unit and FPV camera from the Avata drone, that you can plug into a custom build. The jump from HD to Full HD (720p to 1080p) in the googles is what I'm looking for to upgrade!
Finally, a proper review from real FPV pilot's perspective. I always curious, can avata do a freestyle stuff and Rotor Riot show us what avata can do! Most reviews out there are only talk about what avata can do as an aerial drone.
I'm fairly impressed with the nifty joystick but even more impressed with what little freestyle this little thing could do (albeit that'd be stupid). THIS is actually what I'd expect from a $1,300+ cine system. Be able to do ALL the cine you want but also a little freestyle too if you wanna get fancy or have a client who doesn't understand drones but demands more on the day & is willing to pay for the risk involved.
This is the first review video I've seen that showcases the movement with the head. Now that I know it can strafe with the motion controller i really want one
OK I'm impressed!!! I would have never guessed the flight performance or DURABILITY!!!!! I'm not a digital pilot, YET. I don't understand any company unless it just can't be reasonably done, not making your products backwards compatible?? Moving forward is good. But leaving the past behind doesn't seam fair to the existing customer base. Great video too guys!!!
The new Goggles 2 are an instant buy for me IF they will support the existing air units and vistas.
If they won't then I don't care about the new goggles, the older V2 will simply be the superior goggles due to better compatibility.
Buy a few pairs if possible and keep in box. Because they are going to be like gold when they are out of stock/production being the only goggle to do both.
What about if the O3+ is in the new Air Unit and it give a way more solid transmission and penetration for our 5" quads??
@@kingbirdfpv I'm sure it will have great range and penetration. But it will need to have the 1200mW hack and there needs to be a smaller, Caddx Vista-like Air Unit Lite before I will consider upgrading my quads.
@@FPFPV got it! I'll wait until Christmas to decide. This time I'll avoid an impulsive buy. Also wonder what HDzero will bring to the table.
@@kingbirdfpv if it provides range as good as the DJI FPV drone id have to bite on the new goggles whether they are backwards compatible or not. Otherwise I'd probably have to pass if they ain't backwards compatible & the new air unit doesn't really offer anything other than better image quality
So after hearing DJI statement on the non backwards compatibility- basically I got that they tried to give the fpv community hope that it will become backwards compatible but going off there previous actions ex. canvas mode fiasco , there just gonna discontinue the vista/air unit and make you buy the new v2 air unit.
Yea, I feel the same way. They made the drone compatible with the older goggles. So why not make the new goggles compatible with the AU/Vista. Typical DJI, and that's why I'm migrating all my drones away from DJI. They're going to eventually do to themselves, what FrSky did. Remember DJI, you're never too big to fail, and customers determine your future. Something a lot of companies of today could use a lesson in.
How is this a upgraid if the v2 does anilog old air units and new system
smart business move to maximize profitability. the Chinese are very cunning businessmen.
Good movement making drone compatible with Goggles V2 so if in the future they want to sell more new goggles and vista v1 and V2 units, they will have to make it compatible. Think that the drone is a good starting point for this people who wants to start making fpv cinematic videos and include it as other professional tool without the learning process of the traditional fpv systems.
@@javierortiz1981 nobody wants to lug around 5 different goggles for different crafts of various setups unless you are in production. As it is, an expensive tool that has zero crossover.
As a FPV Goggles V2 user I really hope they will make the new Goggles backwards compatible with the air unti and vista. Otherwise I will stay with my current ones.
I saw FPV VTX module into regular 5" testing drone... Will be soon
Goggles are not compatible with the existing air units/vista's? What in the hell were they thinking?
I was set to pre order until I heard this… I wonder if the new air units will require rebinding like the current drone.
I would have been surprised if they WERE backwards compatible.
Dji loves making you buy the same thing twice.
@@NightRiderFPV same, was going to pre-order but if not usable with vistas then no point to use for Freestyle imo. They screwed up big time
@@borisdamole never understood the hate for dji until now. Really wanted those goggles.
@@NightRiderFPV DJI is not in it for the people. There a company so there focused on money. Backwards compatibility makes them less money so that’s no shocker they went that route. I don’t like that they are that way either and as much hate as they get they make great products….that work on release.
Was just about to buy the full kit off dji. With the golden ticket.. then you said goggles only compatible with the avata
Nope
Gonna wait until goggles are open
What is the golden ticket?
@@johnny_123b Permission from the wife?
30:00 Who else noticed the mosquito next to Bubby's hair getting ready to "rip-it"? lol
Seems like everyone is reviewing the DJI Avata, but your review is the best so far by a long shot! You really put it through the paces!
The prepared statement about the new goggles compatibility with older equipment. "DJI evaluate customer reaction and market demand"
WTF, have they been ignoring all the Reddit, Twitter, FaceBook, etc. chatter? At this time I am not leaving DJI, but if they are going to be so disconnected with their customers I have fewer and fewer reasons to stay with DJI as other HD options are now out there.
Yeah that's a known bug... for some reason my old air units won't work with the new goggles
My advice would be to get out before you're too heavily invested, unless you already are of course. If so, then do as I have, and find someone to take your old DJI gear off your hands. There are plenty of diehard DJI fans out there who would love to scoop up some used Goggles, Vistas and Air Units.
@@SCFPV That's horrible advice for anyone who already has DJI. What does "too heavily invested" mean anyhow? If someone has goggles and few quads setup, why would they sell everything at a loss? So, hypothetically, if person had goggles and two quads, what sell all the DJI stuff for what, $500-$600, maybe, then go and spend $600 to $1k to get into something else, just to say I don't have DJI? And then replace it with what? There are no other HD products that compare to DJI at this very moment. Sure there are a couple companies that are up and coming, but they aren't there yet. None of this means I am going to stay with DJI forever, but if my current stuff works, why sell it unless it is to replace it with something better?
Avatar said they working on a Modular hd0 goggles are looking better and better can use hd0 for racing. Avitar for free style. And it going to have video in and out i got to say hd0 is looking better and better
@@NMCWatkins When people start flocking to hd0 and walksnail who actually listen to customer demand then and only then they will listen.
I just wanna say this is the vid I was looking for. All the other reviews were the same, some manual mode but they mostly did dives. You guys on the other hand just let it rip and really showed what the drone could do. When I do buy the Avata it definitely will be from your site.
I hope they are making the Goggles backwards compatible, otherwise I think its a huge fail.
If you want to remain the "past" then that's no big deal. People complained with analog and digital. This is the next step. Is it right, no.
Don't know about new goggles, but my old dji goggles v2 after firmware update can see DJI Avata. Hope new goggles will see old aircrafts as well.
Best Review that makes me to buy my first ever Drone.
If the new goggles were backwards compatible with the vista and dji airunit I would have ordered the Avata and goggles today. I hope DJI change there mind.
Same. Just greedy corporate people taking over the otherwise amazing company
Dgi's problem is that they probably have it in their head that if people switch to another system AKA walk snail, then none of that hardware is compatible with their air units so why should their new stuff be compatible
same here. They have no idea how many money they lost with this move. Backward compatibility was there untill 2 weeks ago... then they decided to block it .
Same
Same here, They have to make it possible, otherwise they will loose a lot of sales from people like us!!!
I think we need to make it known (politely, yet stern) that we need backwards compatibility. They can either sell thousands of goggles to the fpv community, or not. Fpv pilots will write off Dji if they don’t offer backwards compatibility.
1000%
Totally unreal after you spend a $1000 w laggg>
@@ryanbroesche1711 Not totally unreal. I'm already migrating away from DJI. Some sucker out there will be overjoyed with excitement to take the old gear off my hands. There's one born every day. 🤷
Bingo!
Agreed!
Would have ordered the whole setup if they had announced the reverse compatibility of the goggles. Now I will wait and see what else comes out or if they “fix” the goggles to have legacy mode.
Exactly here!
I still wouldn't buy it, based on their attitude with this. I refuse to waste anymore money on DJI products for Fpv.
I’ve built 20+ drones for myself and others. Looks promising. New googles for their drones only are a clear no go for me. They can be off the charts quality but if they stay locked in DJI pre-built only they are worthless to me and won’t scale. I was literally about to but the full pro kit, in the cart, but no commitment to goggles being able to be used with my own builds with an updated air unit. I’ll move on. There are other options now and in the future. If DJI doesn’t want to open up to those that build their own drones by providing updated air units etc. That’s chill. I’ll move on and invest my money into a company more open to custom builds. I own 2 sets of DJI FPV goggles (v1 & v2) and own 20+ DJI / Caddx air units. I’m sure I’ll by 20+ more video transmitters in the future. Will see if they are DJI brand or someone else… There’s my customer feedback DJI. Your move…
PS. To have to wait for customer demand / feedback on this issue is a clear indicator how out of touch with the FPV community you really are. I’d suggest DJI sorts that out or just sticks to “Mavic style” cinema drones.
Thank You!!!! I can’t believe DJI did not at least make the goggles compatible with the Air unit. I also had the complete kit in my cart and listened to this video when he said they did not work with the air unit. I just left the website-so much money was wasted on this company.
When will people learn that dji isn't an fpv company... we are a super super tiny fraction of thier sales... its like asking Android to incorporate apple tech... be happy we got anything from them
There is NOTHING else that compares! Cause walk snail or data snail whatever it is doesnt come close to even comparing….
Wait until remote-id is enforced... Cross fingers someone will come out with a retro fit for the older air units.
@@phynyxstryker lol what is remote id really gunna do? I've never even registered my quads... no cop has ever cared I was ripping a quad much less asked me for the required items to do so lol.
DJI just keeps killing it, what a crazy company. I was watching someone testing the radio systems on the mavics - and he said there is A LOT of headroom on the range that is not even used. When you first turn it on occusync boosts to like over 2-3 watts. Just crazy. There is still something special to me about building something myself. I understand how its hard it took me years to finally invest, but it has been so rewarding for me putting ELRS on a quad and getting it to work. Tweaking it how I want. Great job though DJI. If it wasn't for DJI I would NEVER have flown a drone.
DJI, you should make 2 things:
- Make the new googles back compatible with OG Air Units.
- Enable any form of HDMI/USB-C Video IN
Than I'll buy that google right away!
In other review I've heard that it does support DLNA, which, although not the best solution, it is something that can be used for watching movies from a NAS in a local wifi network.
Probably also from a smartphone if there are apps for that, like PLEX or something
As an analog pilot who tries to choose a new HD ecosystem this video conviced me to buy walksnail.
😆 🤣 😂
I'll probably eventually phase over to walksnail, if dji doesn't add original air unit/vista compatibility to the goggles2
neat cinewhoop tho :)
Looking forward to becoming compatible with the vista units I already have
seriously?!. how can dji be this ignorant. people have been for weeks saying they want it to work with the airunits/vista/link during the leaks.. bet seriously.. watch the reaction...
"You could actually use this."
Highest praise possible:)
Walksnail/FS are gonna love this. I think it will bring a lot of people back. Maybe backwards compatibility will help retention (if DJI come through).
The no backwards compatibility of DJI has been the best advertisement for Fatshark/Walksnail/HDZero I've seen for a while
So currently the new goggles only work with the Avata. Guess that means I'm currently still waiting because I have ZERO interest in the Avata. Even if the new goggles weren't backwards compatible I would have ordered today if there was a new "Air Unit" that the new goggles work with and refitted all my quads.
Exactly feeling bro, I would buy the DJI Goggles 2 if that works with all my vistas for sure!
No way I would refit all my AU/Vista quads, when they have perfectly capable systems in them already. DJI could easily make the Goggles backwards compatible, they just chose not to. DJI would love for you to refit it all though, and that's why the new goggles will work with the new AU when it arrives. Typical greedy corp.
@@SCFPV I would absolutely prefer the new goggles be backwards compatible. I have the v1 goggles and 11 quads running either a Vista or Air Unit. They’re all pushing 3 years old and pretty beat up so I’m going to be updating then within the next year either way. Being backwards compatible would be nice while I updated them one at a time but not a dealbreaker for me because I have to update them anyways.
One of the best and most fun reviews out there!
DJI Team --- I'm heavily invested in the current fpv air units and air unit lites. I would upgrade my current goggles if they were backwards compatible. As a quadriplegic I have limited hand mobility. I'm not sure how accessible the touchpad will be if it requires multiple finger gestures. But they look great!
Ur quad & fly drone? 👏 . Awsome man hope Dji listens!
@@SmokytheBear6969 yep I build and race them. Building takes about 10 times longer than anyone else but I get it done. I've always had great support from my local multigp chapter friends. I've modded my transmitter some and fly better than I every thought possible. It's not as exhilarating as the Motocross race they put in the chair but it is an awesome adrenaline rush 👍
Great vid. As someone that's invested in dji v1/v2, hd zero, and walksnail's system, can't help myself and ordered my avata pro kit. One thing that I am curious to see is if this has the same limitations that the dji app does for flying zones. If so, that may take away from the whole purpose of a cinewhoop. e.g. Can I fly inside? Can I pull this thing out anywhere and fly it? Or is the dji app going to prevent us from doing that. If so, not sure why they went with a cinewhoop form factor; that kinda takes away/limits us, from what a cinewhoop is for....
Down right shady that the old goggles are compatible with the new drone, but new goggles aren't compatible with air units. Clearly they can be compatible and DJI either didn't care to put in the work to enable this, or they are purposely holding off in order to sell more of this new cinewhoop. Either way, hate the decision.
Drone itself seems promising. Goggles seem great too.
Exactly thes are just testing if they can get away with it. dji used to be different
Yup. It's GAME OVER for me, for this exact reason. It also exposed how much "control" DJI has, vs custom builds. The no backwards compatibility stunt is a big F.U. message from DJI, IMHO. Doesn't sit well with me.
@@cognetic time for walksnail
@@Salamattder Apparently so..
Great video guys. It´s cool to see that pro pilots have so much fun with this 😂 Happy avataing 🤣
Bubby's Milky Way t-shirt is dope af
Thx fam
The durability surprised me the most! And I hear that the shell will be sold separately to fix yourself!
I thought using the motion controller would be a gimmick but being able to use the head tracker is wild!!!
Awesome video and excellent review :)
So, 12:10 (Air/Vista compatibility) is a deal breaker for me. Sure, it might come later after people complain, but why? Why alienate your current user base? Second, having to use their battery is kinda bullshit. So, later DJI. I'll stick to Fatshark or HDZero.
Totally agree, So close to moving away from DJI. 😥😥😥😥😥
They’ll unlock it. They’re probably gauging interest.
@@mikebergman1817 I get that, but why? It's a bad business move. They have a ton of people invested in countless air units and vistas. Why come out of the gate with a new goggle that none of your current user base can use? They're either stupid or greedy.
If they made the goggles compatible with the existing air units then I would be picking these up, untill then it is a pass for me.
DJI did it again! A cinewhoop for the people! Love the video and you having lots of fun flying around and Bubby is the boss!!!
"DJI will evaluate customer reaction", Basically if we don't buy the Avata or their air unit v2 when it comes out, they might expand compatibility to the og air unit.
Like all the other comments. This is a non-starter for me unless the Goggles 2 become backwards compat with existing air units.
That 1st reaction 😂😂 “OMG” #excitment if I had a tail it would wag….😂😂
I went and kopt one since watching great sales pitch guys 😂
Does this thing support pitch inversion or is it still impossible for me to fly? 😃
I am really confused. Do goggles 2 work with dji fpv drone? Forget about caddx and vistas. Are goggles 2 compatible with dji fpv drone that they released in 2021?
Great Review covering many Aspects, DJI have to make the Goggles 2 compatible with the Mavic 3 / Mini 3 series!
He tryna kill the drone beo chill🤦🏿♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣
called these guys late one night they called me back next day had a great chat appreciate the insight cant wait to dive into fpv good crew from what I can tell
Awesome job, Rotor Riot!!!! Absolutely loved Bubby's initial reaction with the motion controller!!!
Hands down the best review of the Avata!!!
Goggles won’t work with existing air units :(
Yes!! if I could have the ability to use the Goggles 2 with my air units and vistas I would most certainly buy them.
I would like to upgrade my goggles from v1 to g2 - It NEEDS to work with existing air units/ vista's or if the tech has changed with a signicant improvement in latency/ video quality I'd be willing to get new air units. Make it happen!
Why don't people realize this has never been djis motto?
Love bubby reactions
Must be a lot of new people to the hobby unaware of DJI's 10+ year tradition of my phantom 2 controller doesnt work with my phantom 3 controller doesnt work with my inspire controller doesnt work with my mavic controller doesnt work with my fpv
^^^
Bubby’s laugh. Picked up some Stranger Things vibe lol
The new FPV drone seems cool and the new Goggles 2 look awesome. It is just a bad and sad decision that they won't work with the Air units. Maybe better Air units will come and they make the right decision to open it up to the FPV Air units :)
New air units are coming in september $300+
We want to use the Goggles with the Vista, and Air Unit!
Bonus....It has lens focus!!
Ill wait for the Joshua Bardwell review. Youve gotta love that dude😍
That's a very difficult purchase decision if DJI doesn't allow DJI Goggles 2 to work with DJI Air Unit.
I don't like to carry two goggles if I want to fly Avanta and other quads + Air Unit.
just ordered the avata. on friday it arrives, I'm so excited
Bubby: Oh ah... that controller sucks! Then LeDrib cut the video LOL
Fun in the puru state. Thanks for the review
I knew I came to the right place to review this release. I miss you guys!
“Dji will evaluate customer reaction and market demand for expanding air unit/vista compatibility”
Translated: “We are aware of what customers want but intend to sell more of our new products and have no intention of compatibility with older products unless we determine it’s limiting new product sales volume.”
if this is the same camera as the new O3 air unit, I'll be excited to replace my two vistas and ditch the extra gopros and weight
The way that DJI is selling this drone is maddening. If you want the new goggles, they didn't create a "package" combo kit with the traditional remote, so you have to buy the stupid "motion controller" throw it in the trash, and then buy the stick controller separately. The drone is already overpriced, yet they felt the need to nickle-and-dime us for the controller. The best part is almost every reviewer on CZcams got the Avada with the stick remote and reviewed it that way (only passively mentioning the motion controller in the review (because they know it is a toy)) is just a slap in the face.
As a content creator and beginner drone pilot, I'm really looking forward to making this purchase.
I would have ordered a FULL kit today if the DJI Googles 2 were backwards compatible with the Air Unit and Air Unit Lite! @DJI Please fix!
New to FPV. Looks exciting. Pulling the plug tomorrow.
I love Bubby lol
Looks awesome, sadly im gonna wait to buy it tho, until they have a combo with the regular controller
Shredding part rocks really hard, thanks a lot ! :)
I need those goggles to work with the air unit come on DJI!!
Hope these two stay friends forever, they click so good together and we get great content in return! 😊
Never really discussed the flight time or the glitches In the video feed
If they don’t make the goggle compatible with air units and vistas within 30 days I’m buying walksnail. That should put a 🔥 in em lol 😂
The only important not do it..... the new glasses compatible with the previous air units and vistas
really interesting! I quite like the motion controller. I thought it was stupid at first, but I like it in your video. I hear the new DJI goggles won't connect to the DJI FPV :( it's strange Avata can work with old DJI glasses but vice versa new glasses can't work with older... I guess they want to increase sales of the DJI Avata...
durability looks great
I am definitely interested in the system. I don't have a cine whoop and would like to add one to my fleet, but it is very important to me that the new goggles work with the old vistas and air units. I won't be buying this if the new goggles are not backwards compatible with the old systems.
Pulled the trigger just for the new controller. Needed to experience that… but I personally can’t stand cinewhoops and I’m really curious if the sound can be reduced by removing prop guards etc
The DJI statement explaining the "we will evaluate reactions" shows that they know that removing backwards compatibility is a bad thing to do and they did it anyways, biggest IDGAF attitude from that corporate, I'd rather bet my money on Walksnail for a long-term system for the community, not corporate greed
Bubbys reaction to the motion controller is my favorite!
Finally a review that shows what the avata really can do!!!!!
I love Rotor riot, but after the statement that the new goggles don't work with the air unit, I was expecting a much stronger reaction, which by the way you can see in their faces! The most crucial thing about the new goggles, that has to be implemented, is the compatibility with the air unit and I hoped rotor riot is going to realize it right away and be the first ones to publicly state it.
Yes’m let’s get that new google and the controller compatible on everything!!!
that deer footage was awesome! :D
Awesome Review my dudes. I’m impressed 🤘🏻👊🏻👊🏻 I definitely would love to see the goggles used with our traditional fpv drones or have the new Air units compatible with the DJI v2 goggles.
I want to buy the combo but until it works with Air Units and Vistas it's a pass for me thanks for saving me bunch of money today
I upgraded to dji early on in the v1 and was blown away, sure i had to sell off brand new(ish) HDO goggles and a bunch of vtxs at a loss but....its digital so. Now this, if they come out with a good air unit to pair up with the goggles im a buyer, screw it, cant take it with you$$$
Why wouldn't DJI make these backwards compatible? I mean who wouldn't want to sell a few hundred thousand extra units?
Back compatibility of the new DJI googles with air unit / cadx vista is a no-brainer, especially if DJI plans to stop making the V1 and V2 googles! What would be really great though, is a new air unit and FPV camera from the Avata drone, that you can plug into a custom build. The jump from HD to Full HD (720p to 1080p) in the googles is what I'm looking for to upgrade!
It's coming, they have already filed FCC papers etc.
Finally, a proper review from real FPV pilot's perspective.
I always curious, can avata do a freestyle stuff and Rotor Riot show us what avata can do!
Most reviews out there are only talk about what avata can do as an aerial drone.
I'm fairly impressed with the nifty joystick but even more impressed with what little freestyle this little thing could do (albeit that'd be stupid). THIS is actually what I'd expect from a $1,300+ cine system. Be able to do ALL the cine you want but also a little freestyle too if you wanna get fancy or have a client who doesn't understand drones but demands more on the day & is willing to pay for the risk involved.
I'm impressed. I really thought this set of pilots would have ripped this to shreds literally and figuratively. Great review.
Saw this on mainstream, instantly checked in here. Reading comments soon.
The Headphone port is for streaming video to the Googles, an excellent feature for enjoying content!
20:00 is the most important bit. Thanks for demoing the manual flight
Thank you for showing what Avata can do in manual.
Bubby is cracked. Showing the old geezers what’s up
This is the first review video I've seen that showcases the movement with the head. Now that I know it can strafe with the motion controller i really want one
Someone please explain what he did on the controller at 19mins which the screw driver?
It seems they sell just the goggles also but why, if there are no air units for it?
what a wonderful head tracking...
So if the Avata can work with Goggles V2 and Goggles 2, why couldn't they make Goggles 2 work with air units???
Money talks.
It sounds very expensive to have goggles 2 that only works with Avanta. I will buy if it can work with Air Unit and Caddx Vista.
OK I'm impressed!!! I would have never guessed the flight performance or DURABILITY!!!!! I'm not a digital pilot, YET. I don't understand any company unless it just can't be reasonably done, not making your products backwards compatible?? Moving forward is good. But leaving the past behind doesn't seam fair to the existing customer base. Great video too guys!!!