Chris Froomes downhill attack (The Breakdown)
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- čas přidán 9. 08. 2016
- Chris Froome did the impossible by breaking away on stage 8 of the 2016 Tour de France on a DECENT! WHAT?!?! I share my thoughts on how it all went down.
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Even though Froome only finished 17seconds ahead of the chasing pack I think this was a big show of strength from him and did more damage psychologically to his tour rivals. It was exciting and also scary to watch at the same time lol
i agree, the same the stage before ventoux when sprinted second to sagan..great racing for the spectator ... supreme..
Jammalama one of the best stages I ever saw and totally unexpected!
It also created a day at the Tour that will be remembered for a long long time, it's epic moves like this that make World Tour cycling so exciting, and create cycling legends.
I can't believe that more spectators don't get punched or slapped more often.
@Donald Drumpf I have a cyclist friend...they are skynny, but muscular, most of us have fat and muscle on arms...and ok, on arma..but, trast me, you dont want them to use their foot to kick you. Think about Sagan legs? Huge muscle.
@Donald Drumpf just because they're skinny doesn't mean they dont have muscles and force.. Its called being lean you fatass
@@hulktruck3264 dont be delusional, these guys are extremely skinny (upper body)
@@gl4989 lol true
Risky? On a dry descent it's FAR more risky to be in the pack. Froome is not just a climber like Quintana - he's also one of the best TT guys, so it's no surprise he could hold the gap downhill after the hard climb. Attacking at the top is road racing 101.
The vegan cyclist? Combining two hated groups of people into one I like it
MrPotato next is LGBTQA Vegan Cyclist
Relco12 There’s an A in there now?!
for asswipe
Cyclists and vegans are not hated groups. Well maybe some drivers hate cyclists, no idea why anyone would hate a vegan as it doesnt effect you
0liverwarren I’m guessing you’re a vegan
Soooo what you're saying is, to be a pro cyclist you need laser vision? Wow, I've been doing it all wrong.
No lasers, no win. Simple
No lasers needed, but you must have a pair of $150+ sunglasses or you're a poser.
Sharks with laser beams attached to their friggin' heads.
You need to be physically attractive.
@@TheVCAdventures they were gassed that's why the didn't go after froomey
you talk about risk v. reward but this is a defining moment. One that will put fear in his opponents and will be remembered by rivals, fans and the media for years and years to come. yes Froome is a monster on the climbs, one of the best TT riders out there and oh yeah BTW if you think he can't win solo on a descent BOOM! Sagan talks about the beauty of victory. you can win ugly, use your team to do all the work, sit on the wheel and follow, or you can go out and own the race. Attack and show everyone you are the strongest and deserving of the tittle Champion. This is what Chris has shown us. He smashed it. That was epic shizzle.
You missed a lot on this ride. The people designing the race wanted to make it harder for Froomy to win. that's why they put in those downhill finishes. Froomy wasn't as interested in the seconds he gained as he was in making a statement that this tour was his regardless what they threw at him. He was demonstrating he was willing to take risks to win it all.
The other thing you missed was the setup. Froome planned ahead by putting on a 56 chain ring, in case he had a chance to escape. In addition, he set the peleton up on the third climb. Coming to the top of the third climb a competitor for the King of the Mountains was all set to take the points. All of a sudden Chris jumped out and passed him for first. You could see the rider look over at Froome saying what are you doing? But Chris won both the Tour and King of the Mountains last year, so he set up the idea that he might be making a move for that jersey again. That's why Quintana thought he could get that bidon, because Froomy was just going for the points. By the time he figured out what was going on, Froomy was outta sight. I disagree that his top tube peddling wasn't more efficient. These are the pros. They check this stuff out. They train on downhills and the fastest way down. Chris had an advantage with his 56 chain ring and he made the most of it.
You are spot on!!. That decent also gained him the respect of the French who previously thought him to be a cheat.
FormostPanda I
+David J Tyler although now we find out that the French were right, again(
he is a cheat.
arhh well, can't wait to see which cheat wins the tdf this year )
I'll be sleepless in Australia, again !
So I suppose you think Caleb Ewan cheats, or Cadel Evans cheated right?
+pan you only find a cheat once he's been caught, until then they're champions, even aussies
We need more of this, i am a junior rider and this awesome! It is great to really understand how much planning goes into each and every stage!
Man you HAVE to do more videos like this one. For sure would watch these all day, especially with the top commentary.
Gonna try to do it for every stage of the tour this year
*The Vegan Cyclist* Jesus, how many CZcams accounts do you have?
The Vegan Cyclist I will watch them all with immense interest. I love your work, a hearty thankyou mate :D
@@TheVCAdventures Bring these back for this year?
Love these videos. I normally only watch MTB videos but after a nasty knee fracture a little over a month ago i all the sudden have tons of time in my home recovering and doing rehab so i am happy to have found your channel to waste some quality time =)
Cheers from Sweden.
Of course the reward was worth the risk, he held onto the yellow jersey for the whole tour after this. Saying that he should've waited is just a guess, he could've easily put himself out of contention on other climbs or descents, or even just sitting behind others in the peleton and getting caught in a silly crash.
He gained the yellow jersey and with it, the unwritten cycling rules; which would work in his favour if he had a mechanical.
Got to risk it to get the biscuit!
May have been "only" 17 secs on the clock - but was more like 17mins psychologically to the Peleton. It was a hammer-blow. I couldn't believe what I was watching when it happened.
More videos like this! Perfect mixture of comedy and cycling!
Such a nice video, I really enjoy when you break it down, describing the teamwork and tactics! Keep making these kind of videos!
Wow 1.3M views, that’s crazy Sir! 👏🏻 I absolutely loved this race; remember it like yesterday. I hope Froome comes back fighting fit in 2020! 🤞🏻
And that dude that got elbowed in the face, that was probably his hero that elbowed him. I think he was happy. My hero elbowed me! Cool!
VC should do more of these. I thoroughly enjoyed watching!
very informative and funny. Great editing as well. Good work bro :)
An interesting point that nobody talks about in analyzing this win was how he set it up on the prior climb. I can't remember now who it was - a Frenchman, I think - who was wearing polka dots that day, wanted to get the KOM points and on the summit before this one Froome jumped him and took the KOM points and then sat up and coasted and the Frenchman was gesticulating angrily at him - like "you didn't need those points, why did you steal them from me?" So, by having done that on the prior summit, it lulled everyone into complacency on this one - they were thinking "We don't know why he's grabbing those KOM points, but he's just doing that again" and expecting him to sit up again - which explains the slow reaction that let him get that initial gap.
Hey man, really digging your channel. I have watched 3 of your videos and have learned so much about racing. No idea it was so tactical. Makes me want to buy a bike even more!
Great video, thanks! I was not a BIG fan of C.Froome before, but after what he did in this downhill he has got all my support! You need to be a REAL champion to do this, taking some risks of course ...
but this is the most important bike race in the world so riders also have to take risks if they want to win!
Great video - from the meat eater cyclist
very very very good analysis. the best i've read/watched about this stage so far.
Froomy is so tactically brilliant this tour. I love him, but I hate that he won. primarily because of sky tactics. If he was on a different team or if they used different tactics, I would enjoy the GC battle more.
NIce recap. Quintana won't win a tour de france while Froome is still at his peak, if he ever does. He just doesn't seem to have the tactical acumen or the tenacity to really take it straight to his rivals. He always loses the tour early in the race and then has to work hard to gain time back.
And now that Froomey won't participate, he still doesn't have a chance to win since Thomas is replacing him with Egan Bernal as backup xd
Quintana won't ever win the yellow jersey as long as team SKY/INEOS are involved in the race xd
Really enjoyed this .... made me laugh numerous time Thanks for the chuckle!
Chris Froome, what a legend, what a man. The best part must be when he punched that yellow man in the face lol. I'm so excited for TDF 2017, I will sit benched front of the TV whole July.
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200th like. Another GREAT vid, yo. Thanks!
Dude! I didn't know you did race-interp videos. I was just looking for highlights from this stage and found your vid. This is good analysis and fun to watch.
Dude!!!!! More breakdowns. Especially with the tour about to start. Great video!!!! @thevegancyclist
great vid man! it was both entertaining and educational. it made my day!
Froomey won the tour by being a wild man this year, that's how it should be. So dope.
Nice breakdown, road racing isn't my thing but do find the tactics, etc interesting, thanks. Question, is it not the difference between the greats and the rest of us that they are prepared to risk it all should they need to?
Love how so many of the commenters are such experts. Never been pro, never studied science, never ridden this course, BUT - they know so much. Impressive.
Let me guess...you studied "science". Hahahahahaha.
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Great vid man, thanks for the insight
please do more of these !! loved it !
Sky planned that attack before the stage began, and Froomey ran a 54 on the big ring that day with the attack specifically in mind. Also, that stage win was a huge psychological play and was worth more, than the statistics alone in regards to time gained, reveal.
Hey vc! We want more of these!
I rewound that scene again and again, that was fantastic!!
For someone like me who doesn't know much about tour racing this was educational.Thanks.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST VIDEO IVE WATCHED FOR A LONG TIME! I absolutely love the breakdown. Subscribed and alarm bell and waiting for new videos!
Great vid mate!! Giving Cosmo Catalano a run for his money!!! Loved Dan martin most. Yuh
Watched this 4 times and still gets better every time
This is the type of sports coverage I like to watch, knowing nothing about competitive cycling this would have been boring as hell for me to watch live. I much prefer it when someone knowledgeable breaks down the interesting bits afterwards.
froomey is legend for this theatre .... viva la froome
lance armstrong 2.0
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I think the risk vs reward was worth it. This stage cracked the other teams mentally. It showed that Froome can win uphill, downhill, and on timetrials, it also showed (again) that no other team can compete with the strength of Sky (Ineos). Froome doing this forced all contesters to be even more mentally focused and alert then they were, draining their mental fortitude even more. This was a brilliant move of Froome and shows (like how he won the Giro in 2018) that he has a lot of the qualities of the legendary greats that could win stages in all terrains and conditions.
Nice breakdown and commentary. you and durianrider should be commentators on the "Vegan Cycling Channel". wait a sec did I just set something in motion? anyways, thanks for sharing. Best, Rob
When I saw the phrase "downhill attack"
I swear I was i thought i was going to hear some eurobeat.
What a let down.
You can't be afraid to take a chance when it comes to racing. you ride to win not ride to not lose
How does copyright work for using footage like this? Love it and wondering why we dont see it more often
This one fell through the cracks. I tried to do more and get flagged EVERY DAMN TIME.
@@TheVCAdventures it's a pity. Great idea.
Nice video mate, you should do more of these it was interesting and you break it down into more detail and reveal things that you wouldn't realise when just watching on tv. When I was watching it on TV I didn't even know Quintana dropped off I was focusing on Froome
Nice :)
Froome is the best cyclist of this decade.
Great explanation. Loved this video. pedalling whilst humping your top tube, just made me laugh when I saw it live.
you need to get a job at NBC, I enjoy your commentary much more! Good job!
Somehow missed some recent videos. Enjoyed this on, made me laugh several times :)
Man, the last 3 or so videos seem to have done really bad vs others. CZcams be hatein on the VC
+The Vegan Cyclist the last three videos have been great tho!
Thanks bro, I was really pumped on the ride vlog but as where most my videos seem to get 5k+ views in a week, the last 3 have struggled to break 2k. CZcams struggles.
Probably, but I didn't saw the last videos appearing in my subscriptions page. The interview with the guy and his mules was so dope! Definitely needs some more attention.
The reason movistar couldn't let Sergio Henao (don't know how to spell his name) go is because they can let a sky team mate go as then froome would have some body to help when he does go. Either way, Chris froome would have gone because it's a win win. Either everyone uses all their effort chasing Henao or Froome has a team mate to work with after he goes.
nice vid! whats the song at the beginning?
Janelle Kroll - Sunny Days (BKAYE Remix)
The reason they Movistar didn't let Haeno go is because it meant that if Froome attacked Quintana later in the stage, he would have a teammate up the road to help pace him. This would have given Froome a ton of help. Valverde had to chase Haeno to prevent giving Froome an advantage, nothing to do with Haeno or Sky winning the stage.
Secondly, you are wrong about slowing down over the top of a climb. By convention that is where water bottles are always handed out so riders can catch their breath and drink over the top. I agree Quintana should have been more careful and his casualness lost him the stage and time to Froome, but it was a surprise unconventional attack by Froome and certainly not what you learn at 'day one at cycling camp'
Furthermore, the your claim that Froome shouldn't have attacked because of risk vs reward is also wrong. In the Tour every second counts and there are risks at every turn. You have to go for it and be aggressive and take the risk. Riders the whole time take turns and risks like that in time trials and descents and that's part of what being a top cyclist is.
There are also other points to make, but those are three points that stood out for me.
I hope you take this as constructive criticism, I'm not trying to be too harsh, but trying to help. You sound like you really know cycling, bikes and data but like you are relatively new to watching and analyzing competitive top-tier professional racing (as a spectator). If so, you will adapt over time to the concept, tactics and conventions which occur in the beautiful sport.
Overall, keep up the good work. I enjoyed the analysis.
love the breakdown and commentary
this is a great breakdown. thanks dude.
Just brilliant. So funny. Your take down of Kintana's capitulation and complete dismemberment was brutal but fair.
Great insight. Thank you sir.
hey don't be mean to Dan martin :P He's for me the rider that gave the most entertainment in this tour :D
Saroua so true
I love the commentary, sounds like Miranda Sings
this Video ist so good! Please make more Videos. The commentary is top
Love this commentary, not stale at all
But wait, was it 13 vs 1? You didn't really clear that up. lol. Great video sir. Keep em coming. 🥑🥦🥕♥️
The ‘Yuut!’ is why I subscribed :)
do you have something against quintana?
Are you following the Tour de France? Could you do more of such videos?
From the 'time' stand point, I agree, one could argue that it wasn't worth the risk. From the 'Froome's image' stand point, this changed everything for this guy (just like the attack on the flat with Sagan/Bodnar).
I'm a bit late to the party, great video! I disagree with the risk/reward thing though, the conditions were perfect for descending and except for a few corners it was very straight. And his reward? A stage win and the psychological advantage surely must've been worth it.
Nothing better than cresting the climb with a group, and knowing you've got everyone's number on the descent.
Wow, I wasn't aware that VC used to LR it once upon a time 😂. Maybe @TheVCAdventures and @LanterneRouge should a collabo for a GT stage 🧨
Jusd cane across this after hearing Bernie Eisel on the (German) Besenwagen podcast talk about Froomes unique descending abilities (him not beeing a stranger to crazy descends with Cav). What a cool surprise to discover that VC has a video on that 😅
Brilliant quality video 👍👍👍👍 could watch this one all day lol😀😀😀🍺🍺🍺🍺
Ctfu your commentary 🤣 gotta love it! “Murked”
Unrelated question, what is the point of noses on saddles?
Hahahaha nice video man, you have a very funny way to show the things
Important caveat: Froome had his mechanic mount a bigger outer chainring (54 I think), so I suppose he had this kind of attack in mind before the stage even started.
Are you ideas of ice and fire? Voice sounds similar
Froome is a beast my friend. They stood without a chance from the starting line.
The video completely fails to mention the most important aspect in this which was how it was set up on the previous climb when Froome attacked near the summit as if he was doing so for the King of the mountains. When he did the same on the final climb his rivals just assumed he was doing it for the same reason, ie, the KOM. You do stress very well though the crazy risks he took on the descent and whether it was worth it. It came off and he looks a hero but it could so easily have ended in disaster.
It’s called panache. With this stage, Froome earned the respect of many French fans. Not that their respect helps Froome much, but it was a display of panache that should be respected.
But just when froomy starts the attack nairo only stays like 10 seconds on the front of the group then valverde comes back and lead the group
Yes well played Sky, as they said no one seen it coming.
sorry to tell you but a tour de France with 2 time trials like the 2016 one, is made more for Froome, remember that from the 4 minutes he won the tour, he got 3:15 from the time trials, from this attack he just got 11 seconds
600W from the top tube? No way. That position is quite hard to pedal from and I doubt Froome ever trains that. And how can you both say that Sky calculate everything and the pedaling was worth it but also that the attack was too risky and not a good idea? IMO, awesome riding by Froome and great attack!
It is only a bad idea if it doesn’t work, it was only to risky if he crashed. I say he needed to win this stage because they did everything for Froomie to loose this tour. This was Chris letting them know he was going to play by different rules.
We need the breakdown of Froome running.
This was a big stud move from a guy who isn't (or at least *wasn't*) considered a big stud. I gained massive respect for Froomy after this stud show.
Taste the lactate dropping from the ends of hit teeth onto his tongue.... EPIC COMMENTARY.
one of the best vids on the net
i really laughed my ass off. your commentary is epic af hahahaha
That looks like a Greame Obree position!!! well done froome taking some cycling lessons from the past. you don't need alot of watts in this position the Aero dynamics will save you all the extra watts.
Good analisys in my opinion ! Thumbs up.
No one ever mention the Osymetric chain rings. If there is one place they excel is descents. Other guys are spinning air and Froome had, in effect, a massive chain ring.
3:47 that shift actually look pretty robotic
is there a low footer to join that track
You should do more breakdown like this!
I certainly hope not!
Sky laser beams away all his energy b/c they're robots lmfao. OMG it's been so long since I've seen this, but this line sticks in my mind all the time.