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Why Narcissists use Flying Monkey's and Proxies to their Advantage
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- čas přidán 14. 11. 2020
- In today's video Jill talks about why and how Narcissists use Flying Monkey's and/or proxies to do their dirty work for them.
Jill Wise, otherwise known as The Enlightened Target, is a life long survivor of narcissistic abuse. She was raised by a malignant narcissist and married to a malignant narcissist, she has endured years of parental alienation, has repeatedly been targeted by narcissists throughout her life. She has an intimate understanding of all aspects of narcissistic abuse and Cptsd. She uses her experience and what she has learned to help educate others and bring awareness to narcissistic abuse. She is also a Narcissistic Abuse Recovery Coach and works with clients all over the world heal from the trauma of narcissistic abuse, parental alienation and Complex Ptsd.
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One of the worst things about being the child of a narcissist is not being believed.
That is my life's story. A child needs validation to build their self-esteem. A narcissist doesn't want you to have self-esteem so that they can control you.
So true. The truth will come out eventually, but not soon enough! It's just phenomenal how people believe them without question. I have learned to just be secure in knowing the truth.
@@realhealing7802 Not just so they can control you but so you will make all kinds of mistakes in life due to no self esteem, making YOU look like the "bad" one while they appear as "saints".....
Hilda Trellis: And another of the worst things of being the child of a narcissist is not being loved (especially if it's your own mother).
@@reesedaniel5835 You are absolutely right! These are some really evil people. They have to keep someone down so the can always feel superior.
The narc's actions stem from their despicable cowardice.
Complete cowards. No contact for 92 days after 33 years married to the son of Satan.Saw a woman friend (5'4"), raged, threatened her and sent an ultimatum with one week deadline. Moving soon.
This is my family. The bridges I burn will light my way.
I like that one!
Thats a nice way to look at it!
Eff yeah! Pardon my semi vulgar or censored version of such enthusiasm there. I'm pretty much doing the same thing, brother from another mother oh, and this gives me I smile because I'm going the same way and I love the way just put it
@@AZDC99 it’s painful this time of year. I’ve let them back into my life several times over the years before I got smart. Now that I know what they are, I know that I can never have the relationships I want with them.
The bridges burned also keep the crazy ones from following you.
Any person who listens to a narcissist’s lies about a target, then proceeds to participate in covert acts, like spreading gossip, or working to undermine the narcissist’s target, or indeed, perpetrate a crime - is not someone who was ever the targets friend. A real, true, and ethical friend would go to the target and let them know what is being said and done against them by the narcissist and their minions.
One of the few good ideas coming from DHS is to encourage people - “If you see or hear something, say something.” This is really important when dealing with a malignant narcissist, because the target can be seriously harmed, financially devastated, or even killed.
Those who knew of, or participated in, bullying, or other crimes against the malignant narcissist’s target, no matter how peripheral their knowledge or participation - is equally and legally as responsible for any harm or crimes. All Flying Monkeys are as guilty as the narcissist, for any actions causing harm, severe distress, or perpetuating crimes against the narcissist’s target.
If people would just be brave enough to follow the ethos of: “If You See or Hear something - Say Something” which is so basic to practicing kindness and common sense in recognizing and honoring our common humanity, many lives could be rescued or saved from the narcissist’s scorched earth, sadistic methods of total destruction.
Narcissist’s are sadistic and few people are more dangerous, especially if covert. It is long past time for these malignant and dangerous bullying tactics to be called out for what they are: cowardice! And its time to end it.
I agree with you totally but sometimes when they are younger like my daughter at 23 shes truly believes that her Daddy is telling the truth. She is naive and doesn't have the life experience to know when someone is manipulating her it's normal for her daddy that way because that's all she's known for her whole life!!!
@@candywilkins386 It is difficult, since narcissists are usually able to sound so charming, reasonable, empathetic, loving and caring when manipulating someone, especially when dealing with someone they feel they really need to convince.
You absolutely right! Well said.❤️
It can't get any worse when law enforcement officers are used as flying monkeys. The target has no room for error and it is not hard for them to stage a deadly encounter and cover up. If only this evil could be easily exposed and proven. Every person involved should be held fully accountable, to include prosecution and imprisonment.
I had a therapist who , unbeknownst to me, gossiped about everything I told her, and it turned into a targeted individual scenario with harassment so severe I ended up in the hospital after attempting suicide. This was over a year ago and I’m okay now.. I moved, etc. I had told her that years before I was the victim of a violent gang r-- where I was left for dead. I asked her if she would help me report it, and the whole time she was against me. It was horrible.
And it’s fine in such a way that it would be near impossible to report her because she would just call me crazy or turn anything I said further against me... then there is the concern of being targeted more with harassment and gang stalking.
In retrospect, now it makes sense that the only time she would smile was when I told her about something that did not go my way and she would frown when I expressed joy about something.
May karma find her one day soon.
Behind the scenes, I helped a niumber of women come out about being abused by Weinstein and others and I understand how hard it is to do that.
The therapists name is Marianne Mora in Tucson, Az.
When you’re an super empath and come across any narcissist, they know who you are by talking to you, don’t be surprise if they distance themselves from you, they only fear of exposure, because they know you know...
Yeh 👍🤗🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊
Facts 👍
@@everythingisgonnabealright310 everything is gonna be just fine.😀
6 months No Contact!!!,,,,Im soooooo happy !,,, I’m free 🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊
i'm doing month 7. thats how long i havent seen my children. missis wont even allow me to talk to them. will see them tomorrow for first time. thank god to the family court
Narcissism often brings deadly consequences for the target - so underestimated. Narcissists can be very charming (overly so - big clue) and they are frequently intelligent, perceptive and intuitive enough they can read people and their sympathies very well. Remember too, because narcissists almost always use victim hood at some point (they have been wronged and they point to their target as the cause, to recruit flying monkeys).
Narcissism is now so endemic in our culture, especially in film and TV series presenting the behavior as funny or cool or even powerful - even cruel. This is so prevalent that most people just accept it, or worse, emulate it, plus, it is also a factor influencing bullying.
We need public education on narcissism because it is a society destroyer.
I think that narcissists use proxies / flying monkeys because they are too cowardice and stupid to do all the dirty work themselves.
They want "blood" on someone else's hands and the deed to be executed in plain sight.
I assume that the proxies make the narcissist feel big, significant and powerful. The proxies can fill in the proverbial gaps of the skills that the narcissist can't or won't do either because he is too incompetent, doesn't have the resources, connections or intelligence to do so ( or even all of the above), they see his/her proxies as an extension of himself/herself.
They always act like that. Everyone else is regarded as a person in service of their ego. So I guess it’s only natural to them. A normal person would see it as service rendered and returned. Not a narcissist. They never ever do anything in return, they do things in advance and use you forever on. If you do something for them there is no need for a Narc to help you out anymore. That’s their entitlement. Once you know that you know how to steer away from them.
Sometimes I call them "subordinates" and sometimes even "drones".
Cowards work too
Automatons, minions & even butlers (mandrakes)
Ironically those idiots think they're elevating their social status as well as their version of Machiavellian behavior. What comes around goes around though, however!
Just went thru this! I am trying to stay as far away from them as I can.
You need to sue them!
@@bonanonymouscrickett5231 often times , unfortunately the deliberate gaslighting and emotional abuse is done in such an underhanded, coordinated way, that they have plausible deniability because the targeted individual sounds crazy or unstable when they talk about what they’re experiencing. And that’s partly how they get away with what they do.
@@Yellow-yd6cz yep. I have an empathy test. If the score low 👋. Looks like it's bye time without a date test them.
Sick of being single and played for decades.
Sick.
I had a coworker who did this to me, (and others) for years. He was the Union Steward at my job, I never would make "deals" with him and this infuriated him. So he had other coworkers try to intimidate me.
Needless to say, I never had Union representation during my whole career.
That said, I had a good work ethic and was able to thwart his and his flying monkeys efforts to destroy me for years...
I turned to God for strength...
Plus management left me alone because of my integrity.
I loved my job. I'm retired now, I miss my job, but NOT those coworkers!
the tribes that are of way too much darkness and tribalism issues are not cool. this is why there are problems. they sound nasty, they look nasty and act nasty. case closed.
Another reason is, although they need the supply, they use others because they are too cowardly to Don a lot of the stuff themselves, especially when it’s to a person who will call them out.
Absolutely spot on ! And sadly there are so many professionals that fall into this category and with the narcissist that the target seems to never find help. We have a huge community now that can see this type of behavior .
This happened to me at a job. One narcissist was my supervisor. One was a narcissistic coworker. Both had other coworkers do their bidding.
Wow, yes, i came across a very clever narc hiding under a sweet, "charitable", accepting personality..
That's how they lure people in their deadly web. In some cases, the participants are unwilling and forced to go along with it
@@dontbelongherefromanotherp9807 Yeah, because the participant can sense it and feel hesitant. Then others around them say, oh you never know maybe that person has changed especially with covid now you never know. These type of people can unknowingly lead you back into your worst nightmare.
Yup! My life 😒 if I hadn't gone through this shit for 50 years, I wouldn't believe it myself. Family cults that destroy people for sport and claim victim, savior, martyr and/or hero, depending on the day. The set-ups, humiliation, mind games and abuse of human rights is despicable!! Info like this is saving lives and my sanity🙏❤
Right on target
Amen! Critical! On target🇮🇹
Remember the ALAMO BRO! WITH YOU ALL AS I'M FLYING HOME! THE HURRICANE HITS! YOU KNOW I SAW THIS COMING! 👀
Yep, my experience in a nutshell.
The Narcissist is the one who looks crazy in the end after being exposed 😳 or someone with a brain sees through them.
You described my Mother-in-Law and her sisters perfectly.
So true! Holiday hover on the holidays and using family to do it
The psycho narc's best flying monkeys are the target's own family and friends who sometimes don't even know the psyhopath, but his lies override your truth...you, whom they have known all your life. These friends and family are often narcissists too who likely abused the target prior to this, never loved the target to begin with, and sees this task to be a flying monkey as renewed opportunity to continue their own abuse of the target...a union of common enemies. The only thing I can do about the flying monkeys that are supposed to be my support system, is leave them to a higher power. God cannot just let this go.
Willow....what you described is exactly what happened to me 100%. The narc managed to convince the community of her lies, and these were friends and family (now ex-friends and ex-family) that knew me all my life.
Yes. They're specialists @ Destruction, Hate and pathological envy! Greed, Arrogance & high-risk $tupidity. LIES, deception and manipulation. Delusional ACTORS! ... BTDoin'T.
You just made a case for a lot of people in this video Jill. Narcissists are pretty much afraid of anything that will expose their many lies against their victim and will do everything humanly possible to make sure that, that day of revelation never comes.
6:20 They certainly "don't tell their PROXIES that they're PATHOLOGICALLY ENVIOUS of their targets." Just before I realized I was definitely being secretly being attacked this way by someone who pretended to be a fellow scapegoat, they couldn't hide the truth and I was SNEAKIDLY beaten so badly, HIDDEN IN PLAIN SITE BASICALLY, I couldn't BY THAT POINT, even want to think that this could happen out of jealousy. I was so belittled that I thought there was nothing to be jealous of within me...yet the OLD me was screaming to the beaten me the exact same thing for the very motive you just reminded me of. Thanks for helping me put back on my big boy pants!
Very true, the neighbor across the street is being used to do that exact thing. I was told by the narcissist when I first moved in that the neighbors across the street were weird people and then later I noticed that there behavior towards me became hostile , I’ve very rarely said two words to these people. So unfortunately these people are being abused and they report to the narcissist when I come and go from the house. I keep a poker face regardless of what’s being said to me. 👍
I’ve had all of that. I was definitely confused as to why a stranger I didn’t know would say strange things to me while someone else was observing and snickering at me. Such assholes 😬
Been watching lots of your videos. Helps me understand how I’ve been, what I have been exposed too, and how people around me feed the bad. Thank you Jill. Love you always.
I like to play dodgeball and narcissist don't like it when their targets have there own life, so... I started getting harassed at the dodgeball games by people I don't even know. Funny how people will believe all these things about you when they don't even know you and will tease and harass you.
Thanks for the video.
Dealing with one now while trying to settle an estate. These videos helped me stay a few steps ahead. Thanks
Husbands ex wife and now adult narc daughters. Who we brought up, paid for everything they needed etc. She wasn't interested. Now, their running a smear campaigne against us because they want rid of my sons and I to inherit all of their dads money and get him back under control. He was only married to that horror the ex for a few years. We have been together 25yrs and we're still dealing with this atrocious behaviour! Thanks Jill for bringing awareness to these awful types of people and their covert tactics. Abuse by proxy is such an insidious behaviour.
The day, "I woke up." When she tried using our Church Pastor as a "flying monkey". He started to believe her until, Pastor asked for a group gathering. She ended up leaving the church than to face her lies. Yes, we are going through a divorce (4yrs). However, she keeps dragging it out.
Yes! so called Christians will participate in abuse by proxy for the narcissist!! Sick! I will not go to church again!!
How can I get my abusers to smother their jealousy? As a result of long term abuse, I have become immune to what anybody thinks of me. My family has put me through hell. All my life I thought I came from a decent family.
I'm no doctor, but as the phrase goes, "You can't fix that type of stupid," when it comes to them. "Quietly make an EXIT STRATEGY" when the hidden jealousy is becoming too nauseous/overt from them: czcams.com/video/3an9crV9feM/video.html
If it's all from family like in your case perhaps, or mostly from, you go low contact/GREY ROCK until you decide that it's not even worth it anymore (if it's coming from people that close to you)
I can't stand narcissistic abuse....When are narcs held accountable for the abusive personality?
I feel tired to exist
Term flying monkeys reminds me of the movie wizard of oz how the wicked witch of the west would use them to obey her lol
Did you even watch the video? That is what she said.
@@TheCanyonCritter no I actually just read the title lol
@@TheCanyonCritter Just watched .Didn't realize that is where that came from . guess was just a coincidence
That’s what it’s from
People become very loyal to them, maybe the narcissist flirts,becomes super friendly to the people they want help from.
Keep bringing on the videos Jill....i learn something new everytime. Thank you for sharing.😊❤
Wow! Yup! God bless you 🙏🏻
Hi Jill, thanks for another superb video. In my case, it was my narc wife's mother who was a proxy. I always wondered why it is that I am often being abused by her mother for small trivial things which could have been directly said to me by the girl herself. I seriously feel that it's high time people are made aware of narcissism and it should be taught in schools, so that no one else has to go through the same pain which many people have endured. I mean literally narcissistic abuse is something which is more life threatening than being shot by a gun.
Yes I did. I walked right into every trap he set.
Nice one Jill - you've reminded me of the 'friend of an ex friend' who summoned me for coffee two weeks after the discard...
....to make sure I was alright and for no other reason. Sure 🤣
"People are worried about you" - I asked which people. Cue silence...all highly amusing when I look back.
Thank you for bringing this issue to light. It is helping me understand things much better. I just wish I would have known this when it was happening to me as i would not have wasted another year of my life trying to figure out why she was accusing me of cheating to all my friends. Fortunately my friends know me better than that but I wish they would have said something then, not later.
You are so good at what you do
Flying monkey whack-a-mole seems to be their best attack. A story will start to circulate that is false and when you start to effectively chip away at it, it is quickly replaced by another false story and even by new flying monkeys. A few weeks or months later, the story you almost discredited will pop up again to replace another story you almost invalidated. Seems they insert another story strategically before the current story is dismissed entirely, therefore putting that story n their back pocket for the future. Dark Psychology flying monkey game of whack-a-mole!
Flying monkeys just a name for other groups of narcissists
This is helpful. Its sad some never get a break from this crap. Until the elder abusers pass away and then they still have a chain of monkeys:).
love you, love your channel. every video i listen of yours, i feel like youre reading my life. its crazy how realistic it is. my ex miss's is using everyone around her, spreading her created lies, to make the damage maximum efficient. glad i'll know the terms now for such proxies
I just ignore them! Any proxy over acting, street theater, or whatever else they planning to do. I gotta laugh sometimes I mean they look so stupid. desperate for attention.
excellent video !
Great video!
Just want to say your cheerfulness makes me happy ☺️
Thanks for the info!
You look so fresh with your pink scarf. I may steal this look:)))
I just encountered 3 narcissists when innocently going about my business. They are so destructive. I am learning to become instant radar to their ploys and then run like the place is on fire.
I knew she was doing it, she felt inadequate, when asked to do other jobs, and she also felt special and expressed her specialialy.
She told people that I was week, and needed help.
I was asked by my lead hand, why ai don't ask her for help.
????
Everything you said is Spot on. Exactly the case. Thank you❤
Absolutely unbelievable behavior never seen anything like it they do nothing wrong they are the greatest at everything sorry is not in thier vocabulary
Reminds me of the Depp/Heard situation.
Frikkin accurate.
I am experiencing this now. Just wonder how to deal with it. So glad I can see through it but going no contact is not an option at the moment.
I find the no apology & flying monkeys believing the very disgusting lies the worst thing. Then, when I try to defend myself, I'm in the wrong or belittled.. who's the mature one..?
My narc is very used getting negative and positive attention from me until i understood that she is narcissist who is doing things on purpose to me...after understanding i started to completely ignore her...then she tried to get negative and positive attention from me but it didn work this time...knowledge is power...
Thanks.
One of the worst ones was a narc who said she was an empath. She was truly evil to people she didn't like, me being one of them. She would go about destroying people's lives for no apparent reason.
So important to learn abour this. Thank you!!
Oh Pink is your colour!
I'm currently going through a smear campaign, I've been harassed, and stalked for years now, I'm homeless due to this, I start a job, they smear me at the job, and then get everyone I work around to covertly harass me until I quit, it gets worse every day I stay,they would group up around me,and start talking about a person, and its crazy some of them don't know each other well,but they would fill in each others stories, they start off by saying things that directly relate to me,but once I recognized they are speaking about me,they would start saying things that aren't true,and twisting things,doing innuendo, this is how the harassment starts,then it goes to name calling as they pass me,saying things kinda under their breath when im near,the manager was even very rude,and it gets worse as it goes, I have a cdl that I don't use because of this,I could make a comfortable living, not be homeless, but the sociopaths won't,can't let me live my life, they are afraid of me having a life,I guess worried people are going to find out the things they did,so they want me to confess lies to them so they can make their slander a reality, my family even isolated me, I've been to police for the stalking, made reports to the DOJ, want to get to the bottom of any accusations, which they are smearing me with to the communities, and they back them,even had cops participate,they want everything their way,going to talk to police isn't an option, from what family said, that want me to confess, who knows maybe that's the excuse they gave them,"to justify "
I so love your videos Jill, they are brilliant. Thank you.
Thanks, very informative and helping!
Because they are cowards.
I was once asked by my dayshift leadhand why I never asked for her help, and I replied,"she's afraid of running out of work", and then I questioned why she thought I needed help?. What was that all about?. I always get my work done. Plus 4 hrs more.
But my little flying monkey was trying to say I needed her help to my lead hand.
Unbelievable - why did the screen just flip upside down ??? Cos they’re ON ME
Whenever I train sometimes, they can do it at least 2 times it takes me to do it!❤
Is insecurities, or envy the main reasons they want to isolate and destroy people,I know there very good at using excuses for what they do,even will try finding excuses to tell others.
Thank you for what you're doing. I'm interested in seeing a video on you're persective of what it looks like when two narcissists are bonded to each other. Of course they won't have completely equivalent traumas and patterns. In my experience many people have narcissistic tendencies. Some of these people in my experience can grow out of these tendencies if they choose to humble and stay impeccable, holding themselves accountable for their reactions or choices. I know I have seen some of these behaviors in myself and it has caused me to assess myself as a primary goal. I have realized that in 33 years of living i have never seen these behaviors in myself. The gal I've been with for 5 years now has been through a rough life and identifies with hundreds of traumatic experiences from her childhood and early adulthood. I on the other hand feel like I came from a stable childhood, have had no traumas like what I hear her talk about. I consistently have let myself forgive the things she has done to me such as: lying to me about things I would have forgiven anyway, ganging up on me with friends by exaggerating things I've done while conveniently forgetting to let them know her part, not respecting my personal space or wishes for alone time and berating me for it, sleeping with other people when I would remove myself from the equation and then trying to cover it up then blaming me for taking a break, never "Having the energy" to have a discussion when I have a valid point to make, rarely turning towards me or making eye contact during discussions that aren't in her favor, instantly collapsing into a victimhood mentality or victimhood posture as soon as even a helpful criticism of behaviour is made, refusing to take accountability for things she's done somehow acting like I caused her behaviors. I have felt like this has caused anger in me and when I'm angry about any of this she calls me abusive or she says i wont be sweet to her and won't continue the conversation and runs away.
It has made me sometimes think I'm a narcissist too. These times with her have caused me to look within and try to stop anything like narcissism from being a pattern in my being.
I left her and got my own place months ago but recently met her again a few times and she seemed to have changed but I was wrong. I think I'm bonded to her somehow and have been angry enough over it to make me think terribly about myself. I've had normal nice functional relationships my whole life that never ended badly and we're always long term. Part of me thinks I've been with her so long and so much has happened that I've become apathetic to getting away from the source of the pain because I'm 33 and would rather have a marriage and children than be alone. I think I have a hard leap of faith to take and I'm wondering about narcissistic transferrance if that's a thing. I've always believed a human is the average of who he surrounds himself with and I know I've been a less stable, less productive person, every time I have to think about these kinds of things nonstop. Thanks again. I really like your demeanor for these topics.
Yes, that transference of negativity; nasty & ugly exchange of E° really IS a thing!
As a Great-Granny BRO w/ 2 NAZI
Narco-psycho criminal "introjects" in my being - of Anger & Rage, I can still be easily Triggered. Stupidity alone can do it.
Like, the 'Rt.W.A.uthoritarians' who Refused to wear masks in Food Stores, under State ORDER!
😱 Being eXtremely High Risk, I 'reamed' quite a few of those AH!!! 💥 LOL ... A group of 20-25 y.o., girls were the WORST!
I wonder if there's a high Demand for EXORCISMS?? A Priest can't even return a call for 2 Msgs left, well over a month ago. And, now, the Office doesn't even 'pick-up'! WTF! 🙀
For Domestic Viol., Terrorism, Torture + a Doz. Hate crimes, currently, EMDR (4 Vet's PTSD) for my complex/"c-PTSD" was Helpful, by 50% the 1st time, w/ a "Trauma Therapist"! But, waaay too SLOW, thereafter.
I'm trying to find an RTT; Rapid Transformational Therapist, at
present. (With none in my area.) Cuz' just straight* Hypnotherapy is not gonna accomplish my therapeutic Goals!
Could you please do a video on what’s called Dog Whistling that’s related to what the narcissist, flying monkeys and gang stalkers will use on the target. This technique has been used on me and I think everyone here should be aware. Thank you 😊
Now those flying monkeys are people of "trust" like lawyers, doctors, politicians. All are screaming "give me the money" to cover themselves.
Anyone experience this with narc getting help from people in recovery?
great info! How do we have an optimal life with this! T.I.
Thanks!🤚🏻
I absolutely know what you mean.. .. my flying monkeys
what if the enablers try to reunte you with the narc?
Thank you!
Should I go no contact with my own adult children???
That's what I've had to do. My malignant narcissist daughter turned my son against me 15 years ago and I didn't figure it all out until recently. It rips my heart out everyday but I don't know how to fix it.
I had to with one. He 'took' his 'inheritance' early and excused it by a campaign of abuse. Apparently by not dying I wasn't co-operating. It's like trying to reason with someone who has dementia, you just cannot reason with them.
@@Chahlie that is a perfect description, it is exactly like trying to reason with someone with dementia. It is so exasperating and mind-boggling.
I am in total shock since mid October....
The narc family member is married with two daughters. She started a relationship with a guy wealthy enough .She called me to have a coffee ...I went and told me that she was expecting and needed money for the abortion .I gave . A few days later said that the doctor during the procedure saw a tumor inside her that needed operation Now...I gave money again and again .She said the same lie to her mother in law and took money from her and her husband too .....
After she had the surgery I went to see her and see if she s ok and recovered ....i.had all these days double shift working 16 hours..still I found time ....we had a tea and told me "I have a confession to make....I had no medical issues I just wanted to make my breasts " ....
I am totally broke for three weeks o have no money for
I have no money for food and my medicine (bipolar since 22 years old..) I make phone calls and does n answer...
I just wait the end of the month to get paid.....
Since I live paycheck by paycheck
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She is now with the rich guy in his villa ...can you please tell me what is this ? I wonder if unethical behaviour and narcissistic tactics could be labeled as abuse legally...
Sounds like my malicious father you're describing Jill . He only claims he cares when I call him out on his hypocrisy .
Wow!
Yep I know ,My mother is narcissist😟The worst parent in The world is narcissist.. It is hard to understand how own mother can Be so evil but narcissist's nature is evil..
Sad that narcs become parents....There is no regulation in becoming parents...That's why abusive people are everywhere
My bfs narc brother and mom recruited his SON to try and make me look like the "evil bratty selfish opportunist witch" they've been trying to convince him that I am. He's only 11.. 😞
My ex narc used a flying monkey couple , new friends he had only known a short time and they certainly didn't know him or our 7 year marriage, that was full of violence and infidelity thrown in my face, threats to kill if i ever left him....well I did escape back to my own country with our two little kids. My ex was able to use the NZ police to stalk me (it's a very long story and it ended with him being told off for wasting police time and threatening prosecution if it happened again). A year later when I had moved again to a new apartment and thought I was safe, I got a call from the flying monkey woman friend of his, calling from his country. And she proceeded to lecture me on how wrong it was that I had left my marriage.....I told her all about the abuse, the injuries I had been left with, the infidelities, the violence towards our small kids.......and how I had to save all our lives'. She just disregarded everything I said and kept repeating how I shouldn't have left my marriage, that marriage was forever, for better or worse and we had an obligation to stay no matter what. She was like a robot, just repeating the same phrases again and again.........I realized she was as nuts as my ex.....and I was shocked that she had my new phone number. I found out my ex had been going to a mutual friends house in his country, and snooped through their drawers and found my letters with my phone number and address on it. Sadly I had to cut those friends off for good and move yet again.......
Thank you xxx
Lawyer is the top choice IMO it gives them an opportunity to get in writing their redundant worn out abuse tools of choice. Instant provocation. God wouldn't defend evil but a lawyer will for the right price.
Why when I push the like button,the number doesn't increase ? Ex. 353 should be 354
My brother was used as a flying monkey against me, flying monkeys are disgusting and just as bad as the narcissist, now the narcissist has turned on him and he's not enjoying it being on the receiving end, I don't feel sorry for him because he enjoyed hurting me all those years for no reason so heres your reward bro...enjoy!
My cousins stalked me
Do narcissists befriend and or marry other narcissistics? I have experienced two narcissists team up with each other against me.
Absolutely it can definitely happen and often does. But one will always be more dominant over the other.
I would imagine that these are very volatile relationships. Does one ever take the other out?
The problem in our society is allowing the narcissists to get married and become parents or even guardians.
Currently being stalked were i go to excercise a family i broke ties with has friends in my state and gets them to follow and watch me can u believe these losers take time energy gas money out of their day to stalk me and I know they come when i go leave when I leave very stressful and this is from a step sibling
Hope you get the peace and love you deserve! Hang in there. I know it’s effing stressful!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Bang on point !!!
I don’t know if this is a coincidence
But for a whole entire week, I have kept the narcissist blocked from my phone and all other social medias right before I blocked him. I sent him a message about how I’m done and I’m tired of being led on and then I blocked him right after I sent the message however, I get a text Saying hello this is so-and-so so-and-so sister how are you doing? and we talked for a little bit but it caught me off guard because I have not heard from his siblings since the last time I met them which was over two years ago….so I don’t understand why he gave her my number all of a sudden and why he still has my number to give out, after I told him I was done with him and I was not going to come back like I always used to do. What does this mean? Is it just a coincidence??
That's you
My ex-partner with his gangstalk members have been stalking and worse for thirty years after the divorce. Online and everywhere here he has spread very ugly stories about me. I have been hit by car and my foot was multiple places broken.
His gang members have burglarized my house for twenty times. Also the police is involved with his stalking gang and the police didn't help me when I was attacked and my house burglarized. That was really scary.
Now I invested in alarm systems with videocameras.
His flying monkeys have poisoned the minds of my landlord and neighbours. They are fanatic with their bullying. And this is going on for thirty years.
The very moment I step out of the door his empty headed gang members come speeding towards me with their cars. Others follow me by foot wherever I go and scream bad names etc. etc. I can't go quickly to the groceries without been insulted and followed every time.
I have physical and mental problems which get all the time worse.
Thank you so much sheding light on this severe thing.
This happened to me. My ex-husband engaged literally this entire town to abuse and harass me.
Happening to me as I type.