i hit all 3 G430's LST, MAX, and 10k and none of them are taking my G425 out of the bag... 10k is just this season's buzzword... great video as always James...
Good Morning James.....Senior golfer here who put the 430 LST in the bag last year and I'm loving it. I think it's the best looking driver in a while, and with a fitting it's working great....will demo this but won't change for awhile.....Ping (IMO) have nailed it with this look....
Tech on these drivers is just getting better and better. Unfortunately, the price gets higher and higher. I guess it is about investing in your game. I never thought I would see the day that a driver would cost more than the monthly payment on my first home. Monthly payment was 435.00 US dollars. Of course that was in 1980. Nice cameo of Chris at the end of the video. Great info James!
I live in Canada and the cost is 800. Never thought I'd ever see a single golf club let alone Ping for that price. I quickly feel back in love with my 4 year old Taylor Made. 🤪
Just find the same ‘LST’ model or ‘MAX’ used head on eBay’ or somewhere.. and there’s not but 2% point’s performance 🎭 between 425 v. 430. Seriously, I just bought a 425 LST (head) Shipped from Japan 🇯🇵 #Cheap - Try sub’ $222 US 💵 And I can’t tell ..it was ever hit at all:)
Look, I would love to have one of those drivers, but I’m not spending $600 on it. I still have a G400 Max. Want to know why? Equipment costs way too much. I’m going to use my G400 Max until the face cracks, which may be never. I’m not spending $600 on a club.
Yea for 1% gains I could play 12 or 15 rounds, which is a full summer worth of golf, for what a new driver costs. Also, unless you are a scratch golfer, dispersion on any given day could be anywhere. Some days I hit it straight, some days I'm working a little draw and some days I'm stuck open and fading it. The best golfers know how to adjust on the fly to get the best out of their round. Equipment can't fix all of your problems and I do t need to pay 600 dollars every year to know that. Dave your money and GO GOLF.
It definitely is way too expensive but there are ways to play the new Ping each year for half the price. Ping drivers hold their value extremely well in the 2nd hand market. I bought the 425 max brand new and then when the 430 came out, I sold the 425 for only like $100 less then market price and used that money to get the 430. I’ll probably wait for Ping’s next new line of drivers and not get the 10k but I know when that time comes, my 430 will still be selling for like $300-400. Hell, there’s even g400 still going for $200+ right now depending on condition.
Let me share how often I change my driver. I’m still using G10 I bought back in 2008 and still crush it but I’m not going to lie I may take a look at the G430
I found the G430 max very spinny so got rid, might try the new version as it claims to be lower spin. Mind you it will have to be really good to replace my TSR2, which is a straight hitting rocket ship
Surprised to see you got slightly more spin out of the 10k. In terms of spin its supposed to fit in between the LST and the Max. must've came down to strike location. If i wasn't custom fit for TSR3 just 4 months ago in September i would def give the 10k a try.
When you show the distance stats, it would be nice to also show dispersion and strike quality/positions. In this case, it’s hard to see if the 10k is worth buying over the max as the numbers are almost identical!
I have the G430 Max and love it. I said I was going to keep it in the bag. And your video is the third video I’ve watched on the 10K Max and I’m considering it now. So thanks for that…haha but seriously I just need to get my hands on it and hit it and decide if it’s worth it.
James when you're hitting into the simulator we can't see the screen. The golf zone simulator machine is in the way. Would it be possible to re-position the camera?
I was in my pro shop yesterday and saw they had the 430 Max 10k in stock for $549, yet the 430 Max was only $399. I might need to test compare these. Thanks for all the great 2024 equipment reviews, James. P.S. You need John to drain that pond and get all your lost balls back.
I have been to the Ping testing lab in Scottsdale, AZ. Their driving machine can precisely adjust where the ball is hit on the face of the club to less than a millimeter. They can then measure accurately the flight of the ball, distance, direction, spin, and ball speed. The point is that it is completely scientific and technical. From this data, they can determine forgiveness relative to other Ping drivers and competitors. If Ping says this is their most forgiving driver, then I believe them.
I have the g400 ,and the new ping 10k is 649 in my area I am looking to upgrade but I'd like to try pxg and wilson .so far had better numbers with Callaway over Taylor made and ping. Also like to try muzuno but I also would like to have a gallery to help keep my ball in bounds
Really enjoying all the videos on the new clubs and tech coming out. But, these clubs have gotten crazy expensive for most people. $600 for a driver is crazy and seems to be the norm now. Im going to have to win one before I ever get to put one in the bag. 😂
I have the old G400 Max which I find really forgiving which is more important than 5-10 yards extra distance - I see you prefer recently the Calloway and stealth before but when you hit the consistency surely the Ping should be considered ?
Lol I'm just peeling shots back into the fairway as I pull it in the pond. Keep up the great work James. I love Ping but I just don't like the 10k, especially for the price. Best looking Driver of 2024 Qi10 finally a company that has the top line looking clean like golf clubs used to. I understand it's hard to blend 2 different materials but figure it out with paint and shading something.
I was gaming a G430 Max and was skeptical until I tried the 10k. Better feel, sound, and amazingly forgiveness and distance. I really did not think there would be that much of a difference. I was wrong.
It's pricing itself out of the equation for me. I think it's experimental from ping and might be down to stock and supply/demand. They might know they are on to a winner. Will be interesting to see how many pros pick it up. I've caved 2 Callaways recently and wonder if the Pings are a bit more suited to 180+ swing speeds.
I traded up for this last week. I'm absolutley NAILING this thing. Out of 4 dozen shots, I pulled 2 left as hooks (when I miss, I miss left because I have a tendency to close my face on my downswing). The other 46 balls started left and then moved directly to the middle of the fairway. These numbers, plus the additional yards I'm getting from this, tells me that the face is adapting to my strikes, and I've never seen anything like this. Quite possibly the best driver I've ever hit. So, if you have some extra clubs you aren't using, and want a really happy driver experience, upgrade to this.
James, good video in terms of outcome but I have to say the audio quality is very poor 😮 Voice is muffled and volume is low 😮😮 but you are not reading comments anyway so …. seems only my problem
Would love to see this compared to last years LST. I love the LST but you definitely get punished on off center hits. If this doesn’t lose too much distance but gets you in the fairway much more often, it would be a huge step up. I also keep seeing the comments on the price of £600 in the UK. It’s $600 in the US which is the cost of all new drivers this year.
Went and tested the top driver offerings (Qi10, AI Smoke Max, Dsrkspeed X, and G43010k) and wanted to like the Smoke and Darkspeed more. But the Ping ended up being the winner for me, the turbulators even grew on me. Found it to be surprisingly hot, even with range balls was easily reaching the 155-160mph threshold.
@@deanmccormick8070 Based on the numbers I saw from James (granted, I'm 51 and also low on the swing speed side) my opinion is no, I'm not upgrading. The only thing that might change that would be performance on off-center strikes. If you are generally finding the fairway all the time, the the extra MOI probably isn't going to impact you that much. This 10k MOI is really more about forgiveness than distance. You may want to look at the new Paradym from Callaway or the Darkspeed from Cobra. Those 2 drivers are all about ball speed and distance.
i cant help that think it is just a money making move James, the new releases, you couldn’t do me a favour though could you every driver review hit a few of the deck as i have ditched my 3 wood and go dod now and think it might be an interesting stat cheers
Been playing the Max for awhile, like it a lot. I went over to the local golf shop and tired the 10k, it was def out performing the Max for me in distance (only slightly) but the forgiveness was amazing. I ended up ordering one after spending about an hour with the 10k vs the Max, getting more roll and release out of the 10k as well.
Thanks. I am going to be trying it on Thursday. You should come to Myrtle Beach, SC to play some golf. Would love to play some golf with you and Chris.
In Canada with taxes in this new Ping driver is $995. You have to be completely out of your mind to spend that kind of money. I’m sorry but I’m sticking with my Callaway Diablo Octane driver that’s at least 10/12years old. I think it was on sale at that time for $169.
One thing to think about with this driver is that due to the forgiveness you can play a longer shaft. I believe there is a tour player putting on in play with a 46” shaft this year to gain some carry yards without sacrificing much forgiveness.
Having these clubs that have such a large sweet spot has it's benefits. But do they hurt your golf swing? Focus is the key to a consistent swing. An analogy I like to use is that before mobile phones I knew at least twenty peoples phone numbers in my head. Now I have to look up my own and have no idea what peoples numbers are. Can these clubs allow bad habits to creep into your game and then through your whole set?
no need, if im hitting my cobra ltdx 280 straight as an arrow, why change? concentrate on 170 yds in to the flag and putts where it all counts thx for the vid jimmy
PING really dropped the ball a couple years ago…we had G400….G410…the next year we get G420, green/black color scheme….420 just smoke it. Coulda been the greatest driver release ever 🤣
So we hacks are still expected to pay a premium so the manufacturers can give custom versions to the pros…! No thx….just toooooo expensive….only way I’d own one these is if I was gifted one…
i hit all 3 G430's LST, MAX, and 10k and none of them are taking my G425 out of the bag... 10k is just this season's buzzword... great video as always James...
Love the sound of the ball flying through the air after you strike it 😊
Good Morning James.....Senior golfer here who put the 430 LST in the bag last year and I'm loving it. I think it's the best looking driver in a while, and with a fitting it's working great....will demo this but won't change for awhile.....Ping (IMO) have nailed it with this look....
Tech on these drivers is just getting better and better. Unfortunately, the price gets higher and higher. I guess it is about investing in your game. I never thought I would see the day that a driver would cost more than the monthly payment on my first home. Monthly payment was 435.00 US dollars. Of course that was in 1980. Nice cameo of Chris at the end of the video. Great info James!
I live in Canada and the cost is 800. Never thought I'd ever see a single golf club let alone Ping for that price. I quickly feel back in love with my 4 year old Taylor Made. 🤪
Just find the same ‘LST’ model or ‘MAX’ used head on eBay’ or somewhere.. and there’s not but 2% point’s performance 🎭 between 425 v. 430.
Seriously, I just bought a 425 LST (head) Shipped from Japan 🇯🇵 #Cheap
- Try sub’ $222 US 💵
And I can’t tell ..it was ever hit at all:)
I do love that almost click sound it makes off the club face. The ping irons look absolutely gorgeous.
Brilliant video. Love Ping drivers
Went for a 10K fitting today. Found out I was better suited to the Max
James I agree with you on this video. That driver really performs. Nice to see the natural ball striker make a cameo!
Great review James. Great info on performance and feel.
good video James as always. Love the 'that could be the best drive I've hit all year' when it's 16th of january :D
Keep in mind he’s been hitting these new drivers since late last year!
@marceldubois5073 oh yeah I figured, I kinda deleted half my comment saying I kinda figure these shots were last year heh
Great Job James. This is a driver that i want to put in my bag. I need to start saving my penny's for it.
aha I saw you also use the HRZDS RDX RED! I love this shaft as well!
I still can't believe people pay 500 plus on a driver just to get 5 yards on a drive..mental
Maybe it isnt the distance, but the outstanding forgiveness. I dont own one...havent hit one...
I have an old Ping diver (G30) but I think I will get fitted with the 10k model at Golftown in Canada based on your videos. Thank you James. 🇨🇦💝👍
Great honest review! Would love something as forgiving as this driver! God I need all the help I can get 😂
Look, I would love to have one of those drivers, but I’m not spending $600 on it. I still have a G400 Max. Want to know why? Equipment costs way too much. I’m going to use my G400 Max until the face cracks, which may be never. I’m not spending $600 on a club.
Yea for 1% gains I could play 12 or 15 rounds, which is a full summer worth of golf, for what a new driver costs. Also, unless you are a scratch golfer, dispersion on any given day could be anywhere. Some days I hit it straight, some days I'm working a little draw and some days I'm stuck open and fading it. The best golfers know how to adjust on the fly to get the best out of their round. Equipment can't fix all of your problems and I do t need to pay 600 dollars every year to know that. Dave your money and GO GOLF.
G400 Max was 10k anyway, great driver 👍🏼👍🏼
Same boat - have the 400 and love it - might consider the 430 max 10K in another 5 years, lol
It definitely is way too expensive but there are ways to play the new Ping each year for half the price. Ping drivers hold their value extremely well in the 2nd hand market. I bought the 425 max brand new and then when the 430 came out, I sold the 425 for only like $100 less then market price and used that money to get the 430. I’ll probably wait for Ping’s next new line of drivers and not get the 10k but I know when that time comes, my 430 will still be selling for like $300-400. Hell, there’s even g400 still going for $200+ right now depending on condition.
Let me share how often I change my driver. I’m still using G10 I bought back in 2008 and still crush it but I’m not going to lie I may take a look at the G430
I have the LST, and it was a surprisingly big upgrade over my SIM2. How does the 10k compare to the LST?
👍👍👍👍
I found the G430 max very spinny so got rid, might try the new version as it claims to be lower spin. Mind you it will have to be really good to replace my TSR2, which is a straight hitting rocket ship
That last shot at 14:16 with the 10K sounded incredible 🏌️
Great review again James, you literally help us at home with these excellent club reviews, best golf content on CZcams for me 👍🏼
Thanks buddy I appreciate that
Surprised to see you got slightly more spin out of the 10k. In terms of spin its supposed to fit in between the LST and the Max. must've came down to strike location. If i wasn't custom fit for TSR3 just 4 months ago in September i would def give the 10k a try.
Hit the max 10 at Ping yesterday in fitting bay WOW
When you show the distance stats, it would be nice to also show dispersion and strike quality/positions. In this case, it’s hard to see if the 10k is worth buying over the max as the numbers are almost identical!
I think that probably tells a great story lol. but noted will look into it John
I have the G430 Max and love it. I said I was going to keep it in the bag. And your video is the third video I’ve watched on the 10K Max and I’m considering it now. So thanks for that…haha but seriously I just need to get my hands on it and hit it and decide if it’s worth it.
Driver prices are insane. Even a-cobra is $550
Ping steady and underrated 👍👍
James when you're hitting into the simulator we can't see the screen. The golf zone simulator machine is in the way. Would it be possible to re-position the camera?
Excellent Comparison.
I was in my pro shop yesterday and saw they had the 430 Max 10k in stock for $549, yet the 430 Max was only $399. I might need to test compare these. Thanks for all the great 2024 equipment reviews, James. P.S. You need John to drain that pond and get all your lost balls back.
Damn, I didn't realize there was a $150 difference between the max and the 10k. That's crazy!
I have been to the Ping testing lab in Scottsdale, AZ. Their driving machine can precisely adjust where the ball is hit on the face of the club to less than a millimeter. They can then measure accurately the flight of the ball, distance, direction, spin, and ball speed. The point is that it is completely scientific and technical. From this data, they can determine forgiveness relative to other Ping drivers and competitors. If Ping says this is their most forgiving driver, then I believe them.
If you’re going to watch a review today watch this, awesome review James and is this possibly the best driver released this year?
What shaft do you have in those … smoke red rdx?
Thanks for the review! Does this driver share the same adapter as the G425 line?
It does yes
I have the g400 ,and the new ping 10k is 649 in my area I am looking to upgrade but I'd like to try pxg and wilson .so far had better numbers with Callaway over Taylor made and ping. Also like to try muzuno but I also would like to have a gallery to help keep my ball in bounds
Really enjoying all the videos on the new clubs and tech coming out. But, these clubs have gotten crazy expensive for most people. $600 for a driver is crazy and seems to be the norm now. Im going to have to win one before I ever get to put one in the bag. 😂
james a quick question if you have not got enough ball speed will this driver become un playable
I have the old G400 Max which I find really forgiving which is more important than 5-10 yards extra distance - I see you prefer recently the Calloway and stealth before but when you hit the consistency surely the Ping should be considered ?
I’m sticking with my G400 SFT. Dream driver…❤
Love the 445 cc head size of the G400!@@rondarling751
Lol I'm just peeling shots back into the fairway as I pull it in the pond. Keep up the great work James. I love Ping but I just don't like the 10k, especially for the price. Best looking Driver of 2024 Qi10 finally a company that has the top line looking clean like golf clubs used to. I understand it's hard to blend 2 different materials but figure it out with paint and shading something.
I was gaming a G430 Max and was skeptical until I tried the 10k. Better feel, sound, and amazingly forgiveness and distance. I really did not think there would be that much of a difference. I was wrong.
10K is the suggested retail price.
You are very generous to Ping James. They have released this in the cycle so they can claim the same launch cycle as TMAG and Callaway
can you make an in the bag video of the clubs you are actually using for 2024?
I always do mate when I’ve tested everything. It’s way too early for that lol
Can u test this against their other 10k driver the g400 max?
It's pricing itself out of the equation for me. I think it's experimental from ping and might be down to stock and supply/demand. They might know they are on to a winner. Will be interesting to see how many pros pick it up. I've caved 2 Callaways recently and wonder if the Pings are a bit more suited to 180+ swing speeds.
Can’t wait to buy this in 6 years!
ive had 3 sets of ping irons but their woods just dont suit me. always seem to sit a little closed? im not a huge fan of the turbulators on the top.
I traded up for this last week. I'm absolutley NAILING this thing. Out of 4 dozen shots, I pulled 2 left as hooks (when I miss, I miss left because I have a tendency to close my face on my downswing). The other 46 balls started left and then moved directly to the middle of the fairway. These numbers, plus the additional yards I'm getting from this, tells me that the face is adapting to my strikes, and I've never seen anything like this. Quite possibly the best driver I've ever hit. So, if you have some extra clubs you aren't using, and want a really happy driver experience, upgrade to this.
Can’t get past the looks and sound of ping
Just me that thinks some of these shot tracers are questionable at times?!
lol yep.
Even sky sports don’t get them all right. Doing my best ⛳️👍🏼
James, good video in terms of outcome but I have to say the audio quality is very poor 😮 Voice is muffled and volume is low 😮😮 but you are not reading comments anyway so …. seems only my problem
I had no issues with sound quality at all.
Are you listing through headphones?
either through Yamaha HS5 or headphones Audio-Technica ATH-M50x which both are audio monitors, on iphone is not that bad @@JamesRobinsonGolf
Would love to see this compared to last years LST. I love the LST but you definitely get punished on off center hits. If this doesn’t lose too much distance but gets you in the fairway much more often, it would be a huge step up. I also keep seeing the comments on the price of £600 in the UK. It’s $600 in the US which is the cost of all new drivers this year.
Consider it done Julian… watch this space 👍🏼⛳️🎥
Went and tested the top driver offerings (Qi10, AI Smoke Max, Dsrkspeed X, and G43010k) and wanted to like the Smoke and Darkspeed more. But the Ping ended up being the winner for me, the turbulators even grew on me. Found it to be surprisingly hot, even with range balls was easily reaching the 155-160mph threshold.
Play a G425 max and I love it. Need to test the 10k and see how it compares.
My situation exactly. I'm an old man with low swing speed. Keep almost all drives in play but disappointing distance. Worth an upgrade?
@@deanmccormick8070 Based on the numbers I saw from James (granted, I'm 51 and also low on the swing speed side) my opinion is no, I'm not upgrading. The only thing that might change that would be performance on off-center strikes. If you are generally finding the fairway all the time, the the extra MOI probably isn't going to impact you that much. This 10k MOI is really more about forgiveness than distance. You may want to look at the new Paradym from Callaway or the Darkspeed from Cobra. Those 2 drivers are all about ball speed and distance.
I have no intention of upgrading my clubs but if i did it would be to Ping for sure.
So basically just the same club 😂
I’ll stick with the second hand market, new club prices are really obscene, but someone is buying a lot of them, thats why they sell them.
If you can compare it to your driver on the course. 👍
I have G425 max and hit it well. But the sound I just can’t stand. Always sounds like I cracked the head
Major difference between g410 and this?
i cant help that think it is just a money making move James, the new releases, you couldn’t do me a favour though could you every driver review hit a few of the deck as i have ditched my 3 wood and go dod now and think it might be an interesting stat cheers
You need to get fitted for the G430 10k and give it a real go (long term test)
Been playing the Max for awhile, like it a lot. I went over to the local golf shop and tired the 10k, it was def out performing the Max for me in distance (only slightly) but the forgiveness was amazing. I ended up ordering one after spending about an hour with the 10k vs the Max, getting more roll and release out of the 10k as well.
That’s awesome! What is your swing speed?
@@todayforlunch3888 usually around 115, during the fitting I was averaging 115 but put a few 118 swings on it.
Must be nice to rich 😢
@@frankcastle1578you don’t have to be rich if you’re financially irresponsible. Follow me for more investing tips.
Nice. Can I borrow 400 USD , I can pay the rest to get that 10k?
Will you be testing the PXG Black Ops driver soon?
Yes buddy already filmed
Thanks. I am going to be trying it on Thursday. You should come to Myrtle Beach, SC to play some golf. Would love to play some golf with you and Chris.
In Canada with taxes in this new Ping driver is $995. You have to be completely out of your mind to spend that kind of money. I’m sorry but I’m sticking with my Callaway Diablo Octane driver that’s at least 10/12years old. I think it was on sale at that time for $169.
$1400 here in New Zealand. That's a hard pass for me.
Hopefully, the MAX (non-10K) model will drop in price soon.
The year is young too soon to tell.
None of the brands are talking about how the 10k moi is only top to bottom not left and right as the legal limit for moi is much lower side to side
Nope...the second I seen those ridiculous "fins" nope...
I know exactly what you mean, but that performance means I’m going to have to test it out
I do love my G430 Max
One thing to think about with this driver is that due to the forgiveness you can play a longer shaft. I believe there is a tour player putting on in play with a 46” shaft this year to gain some carry yards without sacrificing much forgiveness.
We gonna see the new PXG black Ops on your channel soon?
Soon, it’s filmed and ready to go!
Qi10 max or g430 max 10k?
Looks like a great club but 600 quid is a bit too steep for me!
Exept Mizuno just released THE best of 24.
Looks great. But the numbers you need to compare in the sim are miss hits. How do they compare. Center of the face isn’t going to tell you anything.
Anyone how much or what the gains are with turbulators 🤷🤷 wish they weren't their defo be intereted in a ping then ...
Having these clubs that have such a large sweet spot has it's benefits. But do they hurt your golf swing? Focus is the key to a consistent swing. An analogy I like to use is that before mobile phones I knew at least twenty peoples phone numbers in my head. Now I have to look up my own and have no idea what peoples numbers are. Can these clubs allow bad habits to creep into your game and then through your whole set?
I may have to try one of these dang things after this. Love my Titleist but ya never know. Awesome video as always my friend.
i do hate their headcovers. I wish they would make them ALL black with gold PING lettering
I just wish we could bring back prime Arnie, Jack, Tom, Ben, Sam, Gary, Seve, Lee and Bobby Jones and see what they would think about clubs like this
Played 45 holes with the Max (not the 10k)and missed 1 fairway. Whatever!!
I am still on G400, maybe time for a new one.
Hi James , how about making a video for beginners who want good clubs but have a small budget
love that
That is the second 10k driver ping has made the other one is 420 or 425 I can't remember what one
James ...get hold of a ping g400 max pls
G400 max is a fine club but it doesn’t compare to the new 430 line sorry it just doesn’t
@@Michael.j130 how so mate have you had both and tested 👍
no need, if im hitting my cobra ltdx 280 straight as an arrow, why change?
concentrate on 170 yds in to the flag and putts where it all counts
thx for the vid jimmy
3 slicers
lol ok
Take the Warts off the top of the Driver Ping.
Spend $597 to loose 1yd carry and gain 2yds of total. I don’t think so!😂
I don't know mate, the LST is rated around 9100 MOI, so to spend that much on another driver for such a minimal gain........not this guy.
Cat wait to buy this used in 3 years
Why not include comparison of numbers and dispersion against the other new drivers instead of the older model?
Because its not the "older model" its the current range which it seems everyone expect yourself has found helpful
PING really dropped the ball a couple years ago…we had G400….G410…the next year we get G420, green/black color scheme….420 just smoke it. Coulda been the greatest driver release ever 🤣
1st review ive seen 10k is higher spinning than max
I’ve seen a few
Why it called 10k the since the ping g400 ping max drivers have been 10k as far as I know
Wait 2 years then buy it.
So we hacks are still expected to pay a premium so the manufacturers can give custom versions to the pros…!
No thx….just toooooo expensive….only way I’d own one these is if I was gifted one…
Who’s getting a customer version and where did you get that info from this video? lol
James ...god knows how you choose what clubs to play 😂😂😂😂😂