NOT what I Expected! | PING G430 Max 10K Driver

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  • čas přidán 18. 01. 2024
  • Ping returns with an extension to their G430 driver lineup in 2024 with the addition of the Ping G430 Max 10k Driver. Designed for more stability and forgiveness, this new ping golf club tries to follow in the Ping G400 MOI footsteps but with even more ball speed. Does this make it the Best Golf Driver of 2024?
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  • @whaleshark2625
    @whaleshark2625 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Great video! I've hit it twice, second time was a proper fitting. Definitely take a look at the two Ping Tour shafts (I ended up in the Black which was insanely tight for dispersion for me) and the HZRDOUS RDX as well. Cannot wait for it to get delivered hopefully next week! Now I just need better weather so I can get it outside.

  • @ExitThirteen
    @ExitThirteen Před 4 měsíci +2

    I upgraded from a Ping G430 Max 9 degree to the G430 Max 10K, also in 9 degree. Kept the same shaft, which is a Kai'li 60g stiff flex. The one thing I have been able to do with the G430 Max 10K is I am able to turn down the loft from 9 degrees to 7.5 degrees, without having bigger dispersion. My dispersion stayed identical, but was able to gain some yardage from the reduced loft. Very happy so far with the purchase, and I may also experiment with the weight at the back of the head, I may try the 25g weight from a regular G430 Max and see what that does, since the weight on the G430 Max 10K is 28g.

  • @JoeCothern-lv8zx
    @JoeCothern-lv8zx Před 5 měsíci +1

    Another great review, thanks my friend!

  • @leeclements4645
    @leeclements4645 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The true demonstration expert and while the humour of a genus keep it up thanks 🎉to

  • @butlernathin5685
    @butlernathin5685 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love it!! Thanks for sharing. Which projector are you using mate?

  • @adamw9764
    @adamw9764 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Cannot wait to get mine, did a full fitting and its ridiculous how long it is but also how straight I hit it off toe hits (which is where my miss is). Great review, Alex!

  • @allant.9152
    @allant.9152 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Still the only golf reviewer that creases me up....loved the Crazy Town!

  • @bogeyfosho
    @bogeyfosho Před 15 dny +1

    Love your content!

  • @chase_hanna
    @chase_hanna Před 5 měsíci

    How do you like the Ka'li white driver shaft? I was fit into same shaft for Stealth 2 and it's been great for me, so far. Figured you would be in x-flex but its all about timing and release anyway

  • @Renmazuo27
    @Renmazuo27 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Did you get a new camera Al? Production quality on this vid is mint as!

  • @GolfSpyBOS
    @GolfSpyBOS Před 5 měsíci +6

    Please never change Al!

  • @tcofield1967
    @tcofield1967 Před 5 měsíci +41

    I hit it straight. Straight left, straight right, straight into the trees.

    • @gcoffey223
      @gcoffey223 Před 5 měsíci

      Straight to Brendas

    • @golfish8589
      @golfish8589 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Take one of your old drivers. Cut 3 inches off the butt. Put on a jumbo max grip. If you have smaller hands. Don't go full jumbo. The add the appropriate amount of lead tape back and low. And take only it to the range and hit a couple of buckets. You will figure out how to hit it straight. And much more in the center

    • @kevinconnolly754
      @kevinconnolly754 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@golfish8589 yep done that before, hekps for while until you swing like a crazy gorilla again a few months later 😂

    • @will.m1110
      @will.m1110 Před 5 měsíci

      Bingo

    • @golfish8589
      @golfish8589 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@kevinconnolly754late this fall I was playing with two guys i did not know.
      I was spraying the driver.
      I told myself to swing at 70%
      I crushed the next two drives.
      My brother asked what did I change. I said I was swinging 70%. The two guys said "ya right 70%"
      In reality? My swing probably didn't look different. But it sure felt different

  • @brandonthomson4980
    @brandonthomson4980 Před 5 měsíci +22

    Starts with L, and with esson? Never heard of it... best to buy another new driver!

  • @ndmagic99
    @ndmagic99 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Best channel on youtube. Can’t wait to see u hit the pxg black ops

  • @ramzee11
    @ramzee11 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Never change Big Al great stuff😂

  • @travis3889
    @travis3889 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This club is amazing. Hit it last week and pre-ordered it. Finally, a club that does exactly what they say it will do!

  • @bigrainbow25
    @bigrainbow25 Před 4 měsíci

    My go to driver is still a G400...interesting I still get more club head speed out of the smaller head then the newer drivers..with stock Alta CB stiff shaft it weighs 328 grams...I bought a G430LST with the Tour Chrome 2.0 and that club weighs in at a whopping 354 grams...but of course both heads are around a 440 cc size...I hit my driver really high so opted for the Low Spin Low launch head of the LST...Im 72 and still generate around 105 mph club speed and interesting enough even though the LST is 26 grams heavier ( of course partly because of the shaft) I still get the same club head speed...nobody told me back in the day that the G400 was heavier and so go figure I have hit it faster and straighter then any club Ive ever owned...I know guys that have bought the 10K and one hits it faster and the other slower but both love the results...Im going to give it a try against my other G drivers...love your humor would be a blast to golf with you...I break the fun meter alot on the course...keep up the great reviews and humor...Jimmy T

  • @timhalleran3514
    @timhalleran3514 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Great video😃I gamed the G410 for some time and had a great experience. My buddy talked me into buying the Stealth ( he gets 1/2 off). So I traded in my G410 ( bad move). The Stealth did not work for me at all. Lost distance and had horrendous dispersion. I got the G430 Max as a birthday gift from my
    wife! ( I love that woman
    😊). When the 10K came out I was able to exchange my G430 for the G430 Max 10k! I'm back to crushing it long and keeping in play!! The greater moi gives us the confidence to swing away! I'm 61 y.o. With a 102 swing speed. I hitting this club 260+ total AND it's in play! Great club. Thanks for your videos. You are informative and entertaining😂

    • @joelsimpson9167
      @joelsimpson9167 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Interested in how you "exchanged" the g430 for the g430 max 10k... may be in the same boat... how'd you do that!? Thanks in advance

    • @timhalleran3514
      @timhalleran3514 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I paid the 50 dollar difference. Golfmart gives a 90 day exchange. If you exchange for something more expensive you just pay the difference.

    • @swisstrader
      @swisstrader Před 4 měsíci +1

      So you just had to pay $50 for the new Max cuz you have to 430?? I would love to do the same. And did you do this by going to store or via the internet?

    • @timhalleran3514
      @timhalleran3514 Před 4 měsíci

      At the store. Store gives 90 day exchange policy. You can get store credit and apply to the next purchase. In my case I returned my 430 max for 550 and spent an additional 50 to get the 10K

    • @swisstrader
      @swisstrader Před 4 měsíci

      @@timhalleran3514 oh. Thanks. So in my case wouldn’t work cuz I’ve owned the 430 for some time now

  • @scotthirschausen177
    @scotthirschausen177 Před 5 měsíci +3

    What’s it like against a g400 max since that was also 10k moi?

  • @nahor99
    @nahor99 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Can we have a video with it in the lowest loft 7.5*? Will your spin drop down in the lower loft setting?

  • @donkeydance5483
    @donkeydance5483 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Love you, Al

  • @jimlock6152
    @jimlock6152 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I did the cardinal sin and bought mine with a standard shaft and 10.5.. I’ve spent literally thousands on club fittings, between, Titliest, Ping and Taylormade.. unless your swing is top drawer consistent, give it a miss.. and just go for it

  • @matthewshepherd826
    @matthewshepherd826 Před 5 měsíci +8

    To be honest, I'm a bit pissed off that they brought this out only a few months after I bought the G430max.

    • @Kylegolfs94
      @Kylegolfs94 Před 5 měsíci +2

      yeah scummy marketing move by ping.

    • @gagaming7192
      @gagaming7192 Před 5 měsíci +1

      The 430 max is also 10k moi if you have the weight in the fade position. And the original 430 max is slightly longer. If the fade position isn’t for you yeah I’d be annoyed at the release too

    • @matthewshepherd826
      @matthewshepherd826 Před 5 měsíci

      @gagaming7192 more just the fact that I would've liked to have had the chance to hit this as well, might have still got the G430max but to not have the opportunity is pretty annoying.

    • @chickendippers24
      @chickendippers24 Před 5 měsíci

      legit same for me haha

    • @georgebrooks4801
      @georgebrooks4801 Před 4 měsíci

      Only got the lst as the max head looked wank call me what you will but I'd already fell in love with the carbon! Love ping but can't help bit feel they be t me over a bit on this one! 😔

  • @christopherfuller483
    @christopherfuller483 Před 5 měsíci

    Intro was great, I know exactly what you meant 😂

  • @jonfister3237
    @jonfister3237 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Come come my-lady omg I died laughing.

  • @LeTran-cc9hw
    @LeTran-cc9hw Před 5 měsíci +1

    Please review the Cobra Darkspeed.🙏🙏🙏❤️

  • @stollerino
    @stollerino Před 4 měsíci +1

    I was waiting for this to get cranked down to 7.5* and stepped on.

  • @kevinmcclainsr.2706
    @kevinmcclainsr.2706 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The 425 is much better. The sound and feel is much more satisfying. Where I have mine set has really straightened out my slice. I find this adjustable driver to be more functional than all the others and I’ve tried a few.

    • @alexetchesgolf
      @alexetchesgolf  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Purely personal preference 👍 I didn’t prefer the 425 at all

  • @brady9214
    @brady9214 Před měsícem +1

    I've done it - I found party-Shiels! 😂

  • @stevefordham1740
    @stevefordham1740 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It's should always be about the gains/ changes from last years model. Or even a few years back.
    Is this basically the same club in a different wrapper?

  • @punchborg
    @punchborg Před 4 měsíci

    I bought a g400 but I didn't know what I was doing and bought a 12 degree, I was hitting balloons but it sure was straight, I sold it and got a g series more to my specs but the 400 was a bit straighter not enough to chance it though since I haven't tried it in a lower loft

  • @jackrichardson1079
    @jackrichardson1079 Před 5 měsíci +3

    3000+ spin with a draw shape is insane. Please try this head with the Ping Tour 2.0 Black 65X. It is magic.
    Kai’li plays softer than HZRDUS Black (same weight); kick point is a bit different.
    I know you usually get 175/180+ ball speed, and I would love to see the numbers with a shaft that fits your speed.

    • @alexetchesgolf
      @alexetchesgolf  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Not the the shaft it’s the strike location due to the back

    • @jackrichardson1079
      @jackrichardson1079 Před 5 měsíci

      @@alexetchesgolf Precisely, because heavier rear weight will increase MOI, as well as spin. Heavier shafts cut down on spin no?
      Based on your other videos, a Kai’li White 60S seems very light for you.

    • @alexetchesgolf
      @alexetchesgolf  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @jackrichardson1079 all depends on swing timing with the shaft. Strike is everything. With a whippy senior flex if I was striking it high that would even low spin. Just depends in my hands like everyone else

    • @nokian-vy4tg
      @nokian-vy4tg Před 5 měsíci +2

      Never liked the Kaili shafts. Just don't feel right. Worst of the bunch from MRC, hence why maybe they always end up as stock shafts in most brands lineup. The Ping shafts (black & chrome) are much better. My opinion.

    • @jackrichardson1079
      @jackrichardson1079 Před 5 měsíci

      @@nokian-vy4tg I love Tensei and Diamana, that’s about it from Mitsubishi.
      I get a lot of good feedback from the new gen PING tour shafts. I play a 6.5 HZRDUS Blue//G400, but I used to play the Gen 1 PING Tour 65X.
      I fit several people into the new Tour 2.0 Black shaft, and the response has been great. Looking to make the switch here soon. (Tax Return Season, Baby!!)

  • @MrNicliu
    @MrNicliu Před 5 měsíci +1

    Gwan big lad 🎉 you full time in Norn Iron now? If so we need some more course vlogs 😮

    • @alexetchesgolf
      @alexetchesgolf  Před 5 měsíci +2

      I’m all over but here at the moment. Course vlogs coming when it’s not snowing 😂

  • @loutennant99
    @loutennant99 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Enjoyed this Al. The look sort of puts me off and I love the cobra but maybe I’m just being stupid and should jump,ping

  • @kristian_arnold
    @kristian_arnold Před 4 měsíci +1

    Is there much difference from the G425 Max?

  • @gagaming7192
    @gagaming7192 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Alex would love to see you compare this driver with the 430 max, weight in fade position supposedly makes the 430 max 10k moi and it’s longer so for me, someone with a left miss would love a review showing if I should save dollars and get the original max model. Thanks for the content

    • @vikingsfan9049
      @vikingsfan9049 Před 5 měsíci

      Get fit and compare.

    • @gagaming7192
      @gagaming7192 Před 4 měsíci

      @@vikingsfan9049 the point is when you’re getting fitted those guys are usually making a percentage of sales. I’m in the sales business I respect the hustle but the 10k cost more. I want it. But if a trusted content creator helps me avoid paying more it’d be nice lol

  • @Chris-yj1zg
    @Chris-yj1zg Před 3 měsíci +1

    You’re free to check the King 👌🏽
    And Butterfly… chooon

  • @nellynelson9387
    @nellynelson9387 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Swapped put my 10.5 g430 max for a 9 degree max turned it down and now hitting fades around 2200-2500rpm 14 launch 290 carry love it

    • @edblair929
      @edblair929 Před 5 měsíci +2

      How is your short game?😊

    • @nellynelson9387
      @nellynelson9387 Před 5 měsíci

      @edblair929 not to bad the longer irons letting me down to be honest

    • @jeromekemmer8148
      @jeromekemmer8148 Před 5 měsíci

      Time for some similar tech in your long irons!

    • @nellynelson9387
      @nellynelson9387 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @jessecooper9795 not really no. Just mentioned my long irons are poor not exactly bragging is it. Basically sharing my driver experience atm. Shame keyboard warriors like yourself can't see that.

  • @gregmcintosh815
    @gregmcintosh815 Před 4 měsíci

    You have been overseas forever. Are you coming back to Brenda in Perth??

  • @alr6463
    @alr6463 Před 5 měsíci +3

    The price! Yikes! I'll stick with my ooooooold taylormade R7

  • @adsy6819
    @adsy6819 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I’m just here for the tunes

  • @plomassa2677
    @plomassa2677 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It’s a great club. Some players are playing longer shafts with this head to get longer carry without sacrificing much in the forgiveness. Might be something for you to give a shot.

    • @boydgrandy5769
      @boydgrandy5769 Před 5 měsíci +2

      It is an inescapable fact that a longer shaft will reduce the MOI of this or any club. Two to three inches isn't much, but until we can figure out how to change the axis of rotation from the shoulder/neck plane of the guy swinging the club, grams per cm2 is going to decrease with length. The difference between a 45 inch shaft and a 48 inch shaft would reduce MOI by about 8%.

    • @juggernaut0629
      @juggernaut0629 Před 5 měsíci

      Swingweight would be through the roof

    • @gcoffey223
      @gcoffey223 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@boydgrandy5769
      Ouch

    • @dangemmill5632
      @dangemmill5632 Před 5 měsíci

      E=[mc]!?!? What?

    • @alexetchesgolf
      @alexetchesgolf  Před 5 měsíci +1

      We’re forgetting about the all important factor mind. The strike location. That’s what it boils down to. Would never change length unless needed and can be adapted to

  • @markspence5288
    @markspence5288 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I’m glad some1 finally said “get a lesson”

  • @afpelley
    @afpelley Před 5 měsíci +1

    I would love to see a second go on this...with a 'proper shaft' for you...and turn it down in loft.

  • @randallpennington5976
    @randallpennington5976 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I can’t wait till the 11k comes out and I can get ones used in 6 years.

    • @Birdie-Putt
      @Birdie-Putt Před 5 měsíci

      Can’t wait till the 20K comes lol … lol smh 🤦‍♂️ come on people.!!! It’s snake oil.!!!

  • @The-OC
    @The-OC Před 5 měsíci +1

    Solid performance, but the top looks so busy and it's at the top end of the prices of this year.

  • @user-iw5zg4nj9e
    @user-iw5zg4nj9e Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wonder if you can just turn a cheaper ping driver into one of these with a bigger weight. I bought they done much else.

  • @ottawapop
    @ottawapop Před 5 měsíci +2

    You can make any driver look great, and a great driver greater..er. Not really a fair fight. I have a G430 max and can’t imagine any difference at all on my 150 mpg ball speed. The thought of low spin always gets my nads turtling.

  • @craigsummerville8823
    @craigsummerville8823 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I guess the next logical progression is a Toe2Toe between the Ping and Taylormade 10K MOI drivers.

  • @ginge5168
    @ginge5168 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Why you not in your normal studio AL ?

  • @keithfinley2939
    @keithfinley2939 Před 5 měsíci +1

    spin rate might have crept up with the S flex shaft?

    • @alexetchesgolf
      @alexetchesgolf  Před 5 měsíci

      Well the strike was centre so that wouldn’t make any difference unless it was making me strike it low on the face

  • @damonroa7227
    @damonroa7227 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Turn it down to 7.5 and show us what it will do!!

  • @user-ok3yt6yu4u
    @user-ok3yt6yu4u Před 5 měsíci

    Nice review. I pre-ordered mine with a Ventus Red 5s Velocore. Let's see how it goes. It is the same shaft I currently game.
    I had a 5 year old driver with the shaft upgrade, so it was a good time to invest for the next 5.

  • @sirtogii5216
    @sirtogii5216 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Ping always do what they say they do. When did they release a poor product? But that price tag?

  • @kyleharvey7376
    @kyleharvey7376 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Ai smoke review soon?

  • @pgaloom
    @pgaloom Před 5 měsíci +1

    I have been with Ping since the G...the 400 was the fastest for me, until the 430.

  • @ianshepherd6476
    @ianshepherd6476 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Turn that loft down, open the face, cut the spin! I still think it’s pointless since the max has a movable weight and that is forgiveness in a sense for a lot of people.

  • @michaelevans7611
    @michaelevans7611 Před 5 měsíci +1

    That ball fight looks real low…

  • @RedDanger-wf1lo
    @RedDanger-wf1lo Před 5 měsíci +1

    Drop the loft to 7.5

  • @dereksimpson1284
    @dereksimpson1284 Před 5 měsíci +1

    So do so the manufacturers get together and plan to make a 10K moi driver. Seems unnecessary

  • @fearpr1mo
    @fearpr1mo Před 5 měsíci

    Oh, btw Al, any chance of a new 2k23 video soon? It’s snowing here in the northern US and we’re running out of courses that aren’t just crap someone threw together in 5 minutes.

    • @alexetchesgolf
      @alexetchesgolf  Před 5 měsíci +1

      More videos soon! Have missed it and streaming!

  • @fearpr1mo
    @fearpr1mo Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hmmm. I’d really like to replace my Maverick, but I just can’t justify the insane cost of a driver these days. I mean, nothing wrong with my old girl, goes a mile and is plenty fast for me… it’s just that itch to scratch for a new one.. you know?

    • @jeromekemmer8148
      @jeromekemmer8148 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I know!

    • @patbromwell8701
      @patbromwell8701 Před 4 měsíci +1

      The cost of swapping golf equipment is about to catch up to the cost of trading for new ladies 😅

  • @RobC-tt4sq
    @RobC-tt4sq Před 4 měsíci +1

    This thing looks horrendous at address. It's as if PING attached a dinner plate to the end of a shaft.

  • @gavincunningham4598
    @gavincunningham4598 Před 5 měsíci

    I would like to see a head to head put a heavier weight in the back of a normal g430 and drop the loft ...see what happens just seems a bit of a rip off

  • @samwhite8093
    @samwhite8093 Před 5 měsíci +1

    £599? Aye right

  • @gobargau9011
    @gobargau9011 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I call my driver The Wife because she’s always Right!

  • @justinbordwell4654
    @justinbordwell4654 Před 5 měsíci

    Bin chicken!

  • @markhilton4920
    @markhilton4920 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Way to expensive by 100 quid on the others and even more on the cobra

  • @golfish8589
    @golfish8589 Před 5 měsíci +1

    For the weekend worrior. Cut 3 inches off the butt and another 28 grams of lead tape for 12.5K.
    And hit it in the center more often.

  • @simongiguere8794
    @simongiguere8794 Před 5 měsíci

    To be so expensive

  • @davewylie654
    @davewylie654 Před 5 měsíci +2

    So this super forgiving game improvement driver is beyond easy to hit AND ??? Low spin??? What??? Makes no sense and it's a bomber. Ok Alex you owe me a shirt and possibly an attorney as my wife is angry I just spit coffee thru my nose all over the new shirt she bought me TODAY!!!! 😂 The "come my lady" got me and I lost it and unfortunately had a mouth full of coffee 😂 2550 for you??? That's really low spin from a forgiving club???? This is the reason there are a few tour players hitting a Max driver. I think it's about time for another review with the Hammer hair!!! Maybe a wrestling outfit with the hammer hair??? 😂😂😂

  • @spi9177
    @spi9177 Před 5 měsíci

    Stock shafts are no good, all over the place

  • @Birdie-Putt
    @Birdie-Putt Před 5 měsíci

    Snake oil.!!!!!!!😤

  • @billbkr32ify
    @billbkr32ify Před 5 měsíci

    98% of the reviews are it is not what it claims to be. And that the AI Smoke and QI 10 are far better.

  • @marshallwhitson7848
    @marshallwhitson7848 Před 5 měsíci

    Ping please lose the ugly dated tubulators already !!!

  • @nealfreeman01
    @nealfreeman01 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Poor ping. This driver is bad. the other heads are better. Other channels are finding BIG problems with this driver. The 10k idea is just bad marketing... you can't beat physics.

    • @alexetchesgolf
      @alexetchesgolf  Před 5 měsíci +3

      Nothing wrong with it. Honestly. Won’t work for some people and that’s okay 👍

    • @nokian-vy4tg
      @nokian-vy4tg Před 5 měsíci

      Nobody does MOI like Ping. AL in comments above doesn't believe it's the shaft (credit to him), but it is. AL needs to retest for himself with the Ping tour black 2.0.

  • @GorillaSnapper
    @GorillaSnapper Před 5 měsíci

    Such a hideous looking driver, with how good the new Callaway/Cobra and even the new Qi10 looks, Ping really not ageing well. Doesnt matter how decent it performs, it looks so bad at address.