Channing Crowder, Fred Taylor and Ryan Clark talk “The Pivot, “I AM ATHLETE” Breakup and More
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- čas přidán 9. 02. 2022
- Sporting News’ Karisa Maxwell sat down with Channing Crowder, Ryan Clark and Fred Taylor of “The Pivot” podcast at Radio Row from Super Bowl 56. They discuss a multitude of topics including Brian Flores, the need for racial equity in the NFL, their favorite memory of John Madden and their controversial split from the “I Am Athlete” podcast and why “Bad Business” Brandon Marshall is at fault for the breakup.
Interview by @KarisaMaxwell
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Wow they had been taking the high road, but the gloves came off for this one. I love Pivot, honestly it's my fav podcast right now. Fred and Channing were more important than many realized.
They are the only ones doing interviews i notice. I think they are done being friends
It’s just a lesson when you start a business with a friend even if it seems stupid and small, get your shit straight that way they’re no curveballs. I don’t really know the whole story but I’m glad these guys could branch out because I wasn’t a huge fan of Brandon. I don’t have anything against him I just wasn’t that interested in his style but that’s just me.
Marshall made a slick “comment” or action when the word “pivot” was brought up in conversation. The pivot guys were taking the high road but shit i don’t blame them
@@joshuasanutelli-ryckman9065 if you are referring to when he had that chef on the show I felt like that little moment can't be the reason these guys started talking so much there must be something more
@@Biqavell19 prob behind the scenes drama
This might be the first time I’ve heard Fred and Channing both speak on the situation candidly. I will continue to root for their success and support them on any endeavor. Solid brothers
Check out bussin with the boys episode. They go into details about it also
@@kb3001 On there they still kept it sort of clean lol they didn’t say “Bad Business Brandon” out right
@@uncleolu Right!
Brandon is a shark, absolutely nothing wrong with that. Lesson learned, iron out the biz relationship (equity, debtor, employee etc.) as early as possible so there is no confusion down the line. Easy to say, hard to do…
But it's not really candid is it? "Bad business Brandon?? "That's not Candid. Stating, "We believe the revenue for the podcast was not being divided fairly".... -That's being Candid.....
Brandon Marshall’s ego was the ultimate downfall of Iamathlete. Channing and Fred made the show. The Pivot is the best sports podcast out right now . I wish them nothing but success.
he was the front man and the main cast and sometimes the main cast like in every group that has ever existed lose sight of the value of the rest of the players. there are rarely any group that last because it normally starts off as a hustle with little business structure and then when it blows up, there werent any business infrastructure in place and the person who started it, wants to take most if not all the credit... brandon is terrible at interviewing because he is always cutting people off and talks over people... channing and fred kept the balance .. they will all do well
Very well said
Remember how the title would go "Brandon Marshall and more"?
That, plus the way Brandon would act showed me all I needed to know.✔️
💯 Facts
Business side of things fell thru
Dmammmmm I have watched like 4 different podcast that they explain what happened and this by far is the most truthful explanation I have heard. Love the Pivot. I could tell Brandon is a “Me” guy. And his show is all over the place.
Nigga is flustered
Everybody seen and knew how Brandon ego was as we was watching it during those rough covid days in the chat section
Facts
I love her ! She was asking all the right questions to all the answers we all wanted to hear the most.
Agree + she’s gorgeous
i.e. journalism!
Agreed
She was a Journalist! 😎😎👍🏾
@@joshuafootman1593 Yeah I know lol . But you know some journalists ask all the wrong questions 😂
I'm watching these guys no matter who's show they are on. I love hearing their opinions and value the views on Football talk. "The Pivot" - the name is so befitting on how they moved on to their own.
Basically!
Totally agree
Yes
FACTSSSSSSSSS
The fact that they bring in other athletes in but keeps the goal consistent. These dudes are dope
While the personality and charisma of both Brandon and Ocho was entertaining to watch and listen to, Fred’s insights and perspectives was one of the main reasons why I became a fan of IAA. Channing’s authenticity is unparalleled and refreshing. I wish them nothing but continued growth and success with the Pivot.
real talk theres jus sumn about when Fred talks, he connects to soul on a different level..
It's Channing, but I agree with you.
facts
Brandon and Ocho were the initial draw,. Channing wasn’t even top when his position or known of outside of Miami. Lol
I think Ocho will eventually leave IAA .... Juss my thoughts
They told the bold honest truth. The World is about control, power, and money.
They left out that Brandon already had the established brand and all put his money in it from jump and assumed all the risk. It’s wild that they thought they were equal owners when they didn’t invest any money initially, but their participation. Channing definitely overvalued himself. They obviously didn’t know about business. You can’t come back after it’s blowing up from an initial investment from Brandon and claim equal ownership.
@@stacyg6024 what did brandon have? I am athlete might be a company but that has no affect on the pod or the revenue from the pod and this shows in the pivots success a podcast has minimal risks i am athlete is just a name associated with the podcast they weren't asking for stake in his gyms or whatever he has on the side.
@@danny_dagloden1592 Brandon put the money up, he already had the I am Athlete brand already established before the podcast. You probably should know what you’re talking about instead of making ridiculous statements that are without merit .
@@danny_dagloden1592 you can’t possibly think it didn’t take money to hire a production crew and staff to have a professional podcast. You definitely don’t know what you’re talking about. Good Bye
Bro every time Fred talk, I stop what I'm doing and key in a little more. He like the old vet in the locker room that lead by example and not words but when he speaks it means something so people pay attention.
I do also
Ditto
He effortlessly commands that attention & respect.
Agreed, his calm gentle tone alone demands respect and attention and I am here for it.
The Pivot is staying true to who they are as people, first, and giving their audience/fans what and who they want to see. I'm tuning in for the personalities of Fred and Channing, now with the addition of Ryan, who is doing a great job. The Pivot will continue to grow, as long as they don't forget the core of what brings them together and the value they bring individually. I'm not a former athlete, but I appreciate the insight I get by watching. At the end of the day, they show us, that at some point in your life, you will have to pivot, and the lesson is learning to do that as effortlessly as possible, while at the same time knowing there will be adversities along the way. Thank you for your transparency. Congratulations The Pivot!!!!
Edit: Wow, everything they said!
LOVE HOW THEY ARE UNFILTERED & RAW IN THIS ONE!!!
PIVOT is what we do in order to grow and move on to reach the higher level…I love both IAA and PIVOT… the audiences WIN
Amen
Im tired of the cliche .. both are awesome. btw we need more shows like these 2. 7 billion people in the world.
Finally, a mature comment. Thanks Marsha
We need more podcasts like both of these
@@TruthFLA Frfr. Craziness is all I’m seeing in these comments lol
No hate on IAA but The chemistry with Ryan Clark on the Pivot is so good! He just seems more real to me I feel like BMarshall would force things…the pivot just flows!
That’s why Marshawn Lynch went on the Pivot instead of IAA cuz he only fw real shit💯
Facts
Facts indeed!
Brandon marshall is Hella fake
Yup and TO’s episode was telling as well.
The guys were very frank this interview and it was greatly appreciated. Ryan did a phenomenal job and solidfied my respect with this one!
I said the exact same thing...come on RC!!👏🏾👏🏾✊🏾❤
Ryan kept it real when answer the black coaching question. B was always censoring them. He wants to be the next ESPN so he has to appeal to his masters.
Get rid of corporate guy Ryan and this show reaches it's pinnacle
@@Mike-yd4nm he adds to the blend, in a decent way. Balance is a good thing here.🌻
@@Mike-yd4nm Brandon is that you?
“Even if you are on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there.” - Will Rodgers
That pivotal moment for Fred and Channing created “The Pivot.” Hats off to both of them for knowing when and how to do so.
The Pivot. The best sporting podcast out there today, period! Looking forward to bigger and better things for you fellas. The chemistry between Chann, RC and Fred is exceptional.
I’m glad they made a PIVOT! Go where you’re valued! #badbusinessbrandon
Unfortunately, it’s good business. B seems like he’s taking the show mainstream and was always trying to sell his products. He’s always been in it for the money, while the OGs were there to really tell stories.
@@ChicoSlicc 💯. Most of these simps don’t even know what they’re talking about. He put up the money in the beginning, assumed all the risk, and tied it to his already established businesses. How would they think they were equal owners?
@@stacyg6024 a lot of people can only speak from an employee perspective. They just want more, they don’t care where the money comes from.
IAA had 4 different shows and I’m almost certain it was B Marsh cutting checks to guys like Nick Young and Mike Bennett.
its so crazy that Fred had been hinting at this for almost a year. thinking back on this, Fred kept quoting Bill Belicheck and hinting that "business needs to be done as business is done." he would kinda side eye B when he said it. makes sense now.
Kudos to the interviewer, well-prepared asking both the salacious questions but also substantive ones as well. Nice balance, pace and good level of energy.
And allows them to answer without interrupting
Jude I see what you did there 😂. Nice
You three have become Rock Stars ⭐️. Everyone wants to hear from you all. Sometimes you must “Pivot” in order to reach the destination made specifically for you. Keep soaring fellas. 😍🥰😘
Ryan BEEN a “rockstar “. Channing and Fred could never carry a podcast on their own. Lol
My guys making their promo run, I am here to support.
The shows has been awesome, keep working.
11:49 on is gold! Ryan nailed it ever so eloquently
Brandon definitely underestimated that "people make podcasts" he was always trying to make people open up about stuff. Not knowing that when you have a good conversation that comes out naturally.
Facts!!!
He's been like that since high school. Always wanted things his way, and would LITERALLY cry if they didn't.
facts!
L I’ll o my o o oof
Big bro Fred so nervous talking....yet nephew Channing has gift of gab...Ryan is neutralized but a live wire.....awesome team
“Bad business Brandon” that is enough said.
Great alliteration!🤣 Seriously a shame, though...gotta do business right.🤦🏽♀️
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
BBB 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Brandon will realize years from now that he made a mistake, allowing ego to overshadow business and friendship. Fred and Channing were huge personalities on IAA, which can never be refuted.
There's always one "ME" guy in every group of friends and then you add money into the mix and problem is only amplified. It sucks the way it ended but in all honesty BM wouldn't let people converse and the pods didn't seem to have a direction. Now the show has a lot more flow and for me that is awesome.
He got his homeboy killed his rookie year and never talks about it
It's too late now
@@dareonallen9574 what happened?
@@Omar-kt6in he was beefing with these gang members in the club and his homie stepped in and they waited for his homie outside and shot him..,while time Brandon was the one you started it
Salute to Fred and Chann for keeping it real and finally coming out saying what the problem really was , not just the money ..Brandon was territorial when it came to “I Am Athlete” in which if you were a fan of the show , you could see there was times when’s Brandon didn’t value them and would have his outburst as the guys would try to speak their minds on certain things he would be like “ Hold up to whoever it was at the time saying we get to that later , and we gone let you talk … We gone let you talk but what I … wanna know is …” smh IMO doing so from the outside you could see everything was not even and Brandon wanted people to know He was in charge when it came to IAA and also when it came to expressing or picking the topics on the pod which is why I feel Fred and Ocho didn’t speak with their knowledge as much as they would have ultimately dodging all the B.S. they were feeling .. Chann is gone be himself regardless 🤷🏿♂️ But again sALute to both sides 💯✊🏿
I love the way these men conducted themselves every since I’ve been watching them! I feel like I know these guys more than I actually do and that’s what the fans love about them. Feels like we’re all friends! Keep this up fellas ❤️💯
Ryan’s Podcast was dope and now you have Fred and Channing perfect mix. Gold podcast.
When Freddy T talks it’s like time around you stops and you just tune in
FAITHFUL FOLLOWER OF THE PIVOT HERE 🙋🏻♀️Keep doing what you do guys! Great job!
Ryan Clark was a perfect replacement for Brandon Marshall. He adds a nice balance and is able to pivot the conversation when it begins to get off track.
Yep- Channing: exciting, Fred: calm, Ryan: the equalizer
I absolutely love these guys. They have taken the high road and not bash anyone. Their podcast is one of the best and the content is what every fan wants to hear. Subscribe to The Pivot and you will live it!!
crazy that brandon was ok with the contract making channing and fred employees on the podcast. Without them, the show wouldnt have been that big. Brandon was the least favorite on the show. Channing, Fred and ocho were the light
Dude is super annoying. Never would let anyone else speak. He made it hard for folks to watch at times. Channing and fred will get their just due..
Brandon is a messy clout chaser. He loves attention, and is selfish. Yet, he has the nerve to speak on mental health, while he's betraying trust.
@@kemosabeusmc his mental health issues that he has are due to his selfishness, law of karma
I hope the interviewer got a raise. This was *chefs kiss* all the right questions. Didn’t deep dive into drama. Kept it ball specific. Awesome!!!
I love these guys.... Channing has sense when he wants to. I'm glad they finally put it out and kept it funky. When they made the Pivot I saw myself pivoting from IAA.
These the answers we’ve been looking for. Let’s go PIVOT!!
Sheesh this was super transparent but needed. The pivot is a great podcast!
I’m so glad Channing & Fred decided to continue with the podcast. I love the Pivot. Very captivating. They seem so down to earth and relatable. Im so happy for them 💯🔥
I really enjoy seeing both Fred & Channing to continue successful outside of I Am Athlete. It was time for something different to show their true talents and adding another great person in Ryan. I really proud of you three gentlemen. Keep providing great content no matter what’s the location..👍🏿👍🏿.
They got a good amount of episodes out already and the show already boomin! ✊🏽 We know who people was watching IAA for, period.
Channing finally spilled the beans on what really happened. They been real careful about saying what happened really. I think here is where the real truth came out
We already know money issues were part of it. Especially when Fred on an Insta comment said they got a major bag from NASCAR.
And I think the other guys felt they were doing too much too soon especially with the numerous IAA affiliated shows which have honestly being a flop.
Gloves are out at this point and I wish em well though.
@@caleb484 damn so to the LA cast and IAA women wasn’t that bad
@@damarimoland1613 The LA one wasn’t bad but it kinda lacked something.
@@goldenknight6574 True...I wish IAA or Pivot would get Michael Bennett back on though.
Fred definitely made the show , knowledge is the key to the light
I watch The Pivot every week and really like the content and the guests you fellas bring. I got love for IAA as well, but there’s an obvious drop there from a conversational standpoint-but I’ll keep it positive. One question, will there be apparel for The Pivot for purchase soon? I want the tees you guys are wearing as well as sweatshirts! RC Steelers Nation for life bro!
Looking for a place to get myself a tee after seeing Fred and Channing in this interview.
They have the best Sports podcast out right now
RESPECT is everything, and I admire the mutual respect they have for one another. I was a fan when Channing and Fred was on I Am Athlete, and I am a bigger fan now of The Pivot. I think Ryan Clark, is a great addition to your podcast.
I always look forward to watching!
Brandon needs to run Fred his $90K!! You can spend money on billboards, AB interview and Private Jets but you can’t run Fred his money for work earned!!! That’s fucked up!!! BAD BUSINESS BRANDON MARSHALL
Lol 90k I think it’s a lot more than that.
Where u lot get these numbers 🤔
@@Joe20209 it’s definitely more than that. And you can tell because Channing literally said Brandon was trying to do bad business with them and act like they were employees
I’m watching these dudes regardless because they helped change the culture!
This was finally the most real answer they gave (Freaky Fred and Channing). All that fundamentals and ideology bull from the first episode and Bussin with the Boys had me mad…
Props for being real and pivoting!
Some great minds
This was very enlightening and amazing! I don't even watch football but I love you guys and I Pivoted right with you from IAA. Wishing you continued success 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
THIS!!!! Great representation of the Pivot, yourselves and your beliefs and stand. Hell yeah men!
When the podcast started blowing up I could tell Brandon was gonna try to market the hell out of it (as he should) but also new he just money hungry while they were going up the ladder. Always bringing up his endorsements and stuff in any conversation
Greed,plain and simple
Pivot and IAA will both be fine. Fred and Channing moved on like adults. They will collaborate eventually and you will here Brandon apologize. Pivot is sometimes the best option and the name is so fitting. Great success to both.
Can’t wait to see that show!!!
You betta preach Ryan!!! I am loving this podcast! The way your answers flowed so smoothly, between the 3 of you, in this interview shines a light on the great chemistry you have! I was a Day One with IAA and now I am enjoying the ride as you grow The Pivot! Keep up the great work!!!
The Pivot is the best podcasts! I'll continue to support and i hope this podcast will take off globally!
Ryan is like the Deacon in the church that everyone’s respects and he makes everyone comfortable.
What we can respect is them keeping it real and giving the fans the honest truth. IAA tried to brush it over, leaving a lot of fans confused. Thank you guys for the truth! Stand on your principles and morals.
I’m so happy these boys finally decided to not play the nice guy role and just lay out what the truth is. I’ve watched these boys from day 1 of IAA to now - from their own videos to any video they’ve been in like bussin with the boys and this interview is their most candid one. S/O to the interviewer asking the right questions.
Whatever Brandon got going on fair enough do you dude it’s your bread but the way he’s conducted himself since is childish. Dude unfollowed these fellas and chef Nancy once he cut ties, certain episodes on IAA like the fat joe ep, he makes childish remarks when the woman mentioned “the pivot” in a comment - dude just giggled like a little kid. Like I said business is business so I can’t comment on how a man wants to spend his money it’s his right but b marsh is a narcissist and a poor host
Facts on everything you said… I was pretty pissed when he laughed when the name was brought up.
Men!
He said: “oh she said the p-word”
Man Brandon is corny. I stopped watching IAA once Fred and Channing left…
Him cutting ties with Chef Nancy like that too was fucked up. Chan and Fred are grown men with a good head on they’re shoulders they’ll be good but doing Chef like that was petty and over the line bruh.
They are talking REAL plain now!!! Hate that they couldn’t work it out at IAA. But you can’t stay there. You have to Pivot when things aren’t working out and fortunately for us we get to watch a brilliant podcast weekly.
Multiple** podcasts
Channing really laid it out there about the split from IAA in this interview. It’s unfortunate that they couldn’t all come to an agreement with IAA but I like the direction the Pivot is headed.
Thank you for this interview! You asked the right questions. They are sooooo good!
Fred needs to be in the HOF!! Also, I’m taking notes from the interviewer! Great job! Congratulations to the PIVOT! IAA won’t be around long.
The Pivot is definitely one of the best podcast on CZcams. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I love that they have RC with them and I wish them the best
I started watching IAA by chance and I loved the different personalities as they all brought something different to the table. But I have to say that I'm loving the pivot it's so honest and raw and sorry Brandon I'm no longer watch IAA. Ryan is a good addition. Keep up the good work guys👊🏾
Shannon look like a bobble head 😂🤣😂🤣. I salute y'all new podcast and love it. I switched from I am athlete to just watching y'all.
This was a great interview!! I love the Pivot!
I genuinely feel like I’m watching my Big Homies every time I see y’all speak! Keep doing y’all thing ain’t no ceiling for y’all fellas!
I was a little skeptical about the pivot at first but I see their vision now. It all makes sense! Salute to them💯
Best pivot move ever. I watched the other show because of you three guys, nothing else.
I literally watch all the episodes over again just to laugh and make sure I didn't miss any gems!😉💕
Bad Business Brandon…..call the Better Business Bureau 👀
I love how they took this moment to showcase their platform! I’ll continue to support the podcast 🥰
I’ve “pivoted” from I Am Athlete to The Pivot!! The Pivot is a much better podcast. Seriously!
Channing is so outspoken and unapologetic which I love and respect. He came on out and said Brandon was the reason their no longer on the podcast together. Just straight forward person Channing is.
Gave me the answers I was looking for, thank you guys for speaking the truth about it and moving past it.
This honesty is so refreshing!
We all know it’s Brandon’s fault. The nascar shit was boring, he cuts everyone off, and he’s insecure about not being the star of the show. That’s why Fred was often quiet.
Exactly facts.
Why did they pop off with the nascar shit?
Yeah that Nascar shit was boring af
I guess the strip club and sex topics are all u mfs wanna hear bout huh? Just because u dont know sh!t about Nascar does not mean they were bad episodes... Bubba's and Dale Jr's episodes amassed 2.3m views and 52K likes and 9,000 comments which proves otherwise. 🙄
@@MrOhio-hm8jy wow couple big videos but your forgetting the fact that views consistently went down more and more when the nascar shit started cause nobody wants to watch that boring shit
Pivot is the best name they could've chosen for the podcast. It just makes sense.
Yes
Channing thank you for just saying " Brandon doesn't value friendship as he should" now it all comes together. IAA podcast first episode was literally the best thing that hit for me and now I've had to pivot because I love to watch some freaky Freddie and Channing and now Ryan. Glad you all did not just let it go and chose to create your own. One thing for sho and two for certain you all got a sho nuff fan with mad support over in North Carolina!!! Continue to bring it real and straight my lunch on Tuesdays is worth it. Pivot is definitely my favorite podcast !!!!!!
WoW! They are very candid! This the most detailed that they have been when asked OR talked about IAA! Bitter sweet....relationships over Money! She's asking the right questions and the answers are TRUTH!
I love both podcasts as even in separation, it's a lesson to be learned. Family, friends and Business
Great interview!
I love the authenticity from you gentlemen! It's genuine 💪. Also, is there a link where fans can purchase a /Pivot/. t-shirt? I need that thea👏👏👏
I’m riding in this boat with these men/pilots. Good Luck! God Bless! 👏🏽👏🏽
Great interview
PEACE...FIRST...LOVE AND LOYALTY!!! ABOVE MONEY!!!!!!!
@@jewel6799 PEACE...that business was founded on friendship, respect and love.
Pivot is the adult version of I Am Athlete. Brandon Marshall just comes off as a big kid
Facts
The more they ask this question the realer freaky Fred gets with his answer! BAD BUSINESS BRANDON. TRIPLE B’S BABY 😂
I glad they went into more detail about what happen between Brandon and them. As fans of iaa it was like a family had a fight and now we can't go to family events no more, but it's ok u just PIVOT. I love both shows. Keeping the great shows coming. ❤️ 🔥
Facts! It feels like the Pivot was the one parent you would rather be with, but you know IAA would be 😡 if they found out 😂
I will always support both, but the pivot is starting to be what my soul/culture needs!!!
Thank you Pivot for breaking it down so it can forever be broke!
A friendship runs deeper than any contract. Especially when you built something special together. Greed tears apart friends and family!
Those three men are absolutely amazing thoughtful on point men in PODCASTING!!!!! I love them!!!!!
Wow. Now it all makes sense when Joe Budden said that Brandon Marshall called him for advice about his pod. 👨🏾💻
Hold on which episode is dat lol datz wild cuz I’m like diz Mann Brandon sounds like he took a play out of joe’s book smh
@@Weez1274 I don’t know the exact episode but it was recently, maybe a pod from December 2021 or Jan 2022. DEFINITELY happened tho
@@evryangle I heard that too! Crazy! I new something was up when Fred stopped showing up
I agree @leauxdown… I remember Joe saying that as well. Might’ve been episode 501 on JBP..
My favorite show on yt rn love these brothers keep winning
Proud of them. Beyond down to earth and genuine.
I love this podcast, and really like Fred Taylor, Ryan Clark and Channing Crowder. Great job, keep up the great work.
Am glad the guys got out the truth!! They are blessed by God on the Pivot!! They pivoted right out of there!! Best thing for them!! Loving it!!🥰🥰
I love the PIVOT podcast... The Chemistry is great
Excellent interviewer. I love the pivot. Love these guys.
THE PIVOT is the BEST podcast out