Antidepressants Make it Harder to Empathize, Harder to Climax, and Harder to Cry. | Julie Holland
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- Antidepressants Make it Harder to Empathize, Harder to Climax, and Harder to Cry.
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Dr. Julie Holland argues that women are designed by nature to be dynamic and sensitive - women are moody and that is a good thing. Yet millions of women are medicating away their emotions because we are out of sync with our own bodies and we are told that moodiness is a problem to be fixed. One in four women takes a psychiatric drug. If you add sleeping pills to the mix, the statistics become higher. Overprescribed medications can have far-reaching consequences for women in many areas of our lives: sex, relationships, sleep, eating, focus, balance, and aging. Dr. Holland's newest book is titled Moody Bitches: The Truth About the Drugs You’re Taking, the Sleep You’re Missing, the Sex You’re Not Having and What’s Really Making You Crazy.
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JULIE HOLLAND:
Dr. Julie Holland is a board-certified psychiatrist in New York City. From 1996 to 2005, Dr. Holland ran the psychiatric emergency room of Bellevue Hospital on Saturday and Sunday nights. A liaison to the hospital's medical emergency room and toxicology department, she is considered an expert on street drugs and intoxication states, and lectures widely on this topic. She published a paper in the Journal of Psychoactive Drugs, describing a resurgence of the drug phenomenon smoking marijuana soaked in embalming fluid, which may be a carrier for PCP. She is available for forensic consultations involving embalming fluid intoxication.
During her college years, Dr. Holland grew interested in a new drug being used as a psychotherapeutic catalyst, and authored an extensive research paper on MDMA (ecstasy), resulting in multiple television appearances, forensic consultations, and a book, Ecstasy: The Complete Guide.
Her other books include The Pot Book: A Complete Guide to Cannabis, Weekends at Bellevue: Nine Years on the Night Shift at the Psych ER, and her latest release Moody Bitches: The Truth About the Drugs You're Taking, the Sleep You're Missing, the Sex You're Not Having, and What's Really Making You Crazy.
Dr. Holland has been quoted as an authority on MDMA in magazine, newspaper and website articles (Harper's, Slate, SF Chronicle, LA Times, Wall Street Journal).
Dr. Holland runs a private psychiatry practice in Manhattan, established in 1996.
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TRANSCRIPT:
Julie Holland: The main kind of antidepressant that is the most popularly prescribed are the SSRIs and these are medicines that increase serotonin transmission. And when you start to push on the doses of these SSRIs, you start to lose some sort of quintessential feminine things. First of all it becomes much hard to climax and it becomes much, much harder to cry. But you also see decreases in empathy, in sensitivity, in passion.
The simple way of thinking about an SSRI is that you have two brain cells and one is a pitcher and one is a catcher. So pitch, catch. Pitch, catch. So this nerve cell is throwing serotonin across and this one is catching it. What the medicines do is they block the recycling back into the pitcher. So, you know, I’m throwing; I’m throwing. Some of this gets caught; some of it gets dropped. It just doesn’t get over there, but I’ll suck it back in and try again. So if you block the recycling, more is in the middle to get across. So there’s more, you know, the space between the nerve cells is called the synapse. If you block the recycling of the serotonin into the releasing cell, more is available for the catching cell. So it ends up enhancing the transmission. How enhanced serotonergic transmission translates into feeling better and feeling less anxious is much more complicated. But, you know, the simplistic way to think about it is that if you have higher levels of serotonin, if your transmission is better, you will be more relaxed and more happy. It’s a little easier to smile. It’s a little harder to cry.
So, you know, I’ve had patients come to me and say, you know, I’ve tried antidepressants before, but they always made me feel like a zombie or they didn’t make me feel like myself. Or I had a patient who said like I cut my finger and I looked down and I saw that it was bleeding and I saw that it was my blood, but I didn’t really feel like connected to my finger or the blood. You know, things like that that are really, really worrisome. Or I’ve had patients say, you know, I was in this situation where I knew I should be crying and I couldn’t cry. And, you know, I felt terrible that I couldn’t express that emotion to bond with ...
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The book "30 Days to Reduce Depression" by Harper Daniels is recommended. Gives good daily mindfulness exercises. Worth a try.
@@theotherway1639 If the first words on page 1 of that book aren't "stop taking pills and try not being such a wet lettuce" then its probably not the kind of advice people who buy self help books really need
And
hi
i took antidepressants for the first time,
i woke up with panic attack
and stopped taking the antidepressant
so in total i only took one pill
and now i don’t have sexual emotions, no libido.. i just want to know if this side effect will go
@@Grane00me too😭😭with ADHD(Low Dopamine) How long ?..
I will be able to be myself again!
I take a few then cannot feel my normal emotions so I stopped!!
I took SSRI's for 12 years. I drastically reduced sugar in my diet, started exercising, and I've been off for 2 years and I'm doing better than I ever did while on the medication.
How lucky .which ssri did u used?
Thanks for your story. I’ve been on an SSRI for around 12 years and am considering whether or not to get off of it. It’s good to hear that it’s possible.
@@Nohugsforyou1 Make sure the good habits are solidly in place BEFORE trying to get off meds... learned that the hard way. Best of luck to you.
Did you go through a period after you quit where your symptoms were much worse? What was that like?
Ok obviously there's nothing wrong with you!
Being anxious everytime I wake up, at work, being in public, reading a book, is paralyzing. My anxiety has prevented me a lot of things in life, and depression has developed from there, crying myself to sleep because of this disability. Helplessness is all you feel when these emotions drown you, tiptoeing in life just to survive the day. Healthy people have no idea how hard I’ve tried to change my mind and follow their advice, but it's impossible when these emotions and thoughts control you. Taking these pills help me to relax, wake up happy, able to do my work properly, easier with being social, and the ability to study. When I do mistakes, I move on, and no longer panicking and overthinking how bad person I am. This "numbness" is amazing and have literally helped me dealing with life. So yeah, antidepressants are good and belong to those who really needs it.
what kind f antidepressants you take?
What type are you on? I’m desperate
@@mint_soup9743 Not the original poster, but I’m currently on Prozac.
@@MoreThanRocks thank you. Do you feel it helps?
@@mint_soup9743 Yes, I think it has definitely had a positive impact on my life. Smiling is a whole lot easier and my anxiety is no longer a large issue. Hope you’re doing well. ☀️
Taking SSRIs has been the best decision I’ve ever made in my life. I’ve felt my emotions so deeply my entire life, I’ve never been able to make sound intelligent decisions because my EMOTIONS were in the way. That is what caused my anxiety and depression. Now? I feel like my head is so clear. I don’t hate myself or my life anymore. It’s so freeing. Sure I can’t cry as easily, or climax like I used to. But living a life without being an emotional depressed trainwreck was so much worse! I can finally focus on school and I left my emotionally abusive five year relationship because I didn’t have my emotions overpowering my mind! I’m much much happier this way.
good job on being a robot, that just sounds sad to me
One word: Therapy!
I need myself Back!
good luck getting pssd
You're a fake person now. I was prescribed Paxil when I was 24yo. It took 10 years for me to get off of that poison because of the withdrawal effects that were much worse than anything I experienced before taking it. The psychopath who prescribed Paxil should have told me to get off the poisonous birth control hormones that were causing my deep depression. Unless you've done a complete purging of chemicals that you put in or on your body, and an elimination diet, you will never know what is causing your depression and anxiety.
I’ve been on SSRIs for 5 years now. I can absolutely still emphasize, climax, and cry. The biggest difference is that when I cry now…I can stop and move on with my day. Before antidepressants, a crying episode (which happened a lot) would leave me sad for days afterwards. And the emotions (good or bad) were just draining. It’s physically and mentally exhausting to lose your marbles and not being able to recollect them.
The antidepressants for me are more like a rope ladder. I’m able to grab on and climb out of the emotions (can still feel them, just don’t drown in them) . And now I am also on Wellbutrin (as a booster) and it also has drastically changed my ability to focus my new energy (that I have because I don’t spend so much of it on emotional drainage) .
Can you take Wellbutrin and Setraline/zoloft at the same time?
@@vanessaacheampong8963 no
@@vanessaacheampong8963 I was taking wellbutrin and setraline at the same time recently and I couldn’t feel any worse.
Cool wait until they stop working and your brain permanently changes
Yes!
I don't epathize, climax nor cry anyways. All those people talking about side effects of anti-depressants should realise how devastating the side effects of depression are.
We are actually talking about responsible prescribing. Most ppl on SSRI's or any other antidepressants are being over prescribed.
Bet I could make you climax
Mostly the zombie part is when you take too much or take it even if you dont need it.
It varies from person to person my friend. I know what you mean, but trust me... If you end up being one of the people that gets hit with the lack of empathy, it can extremely disturbing. More than you can imagine.
Try going on a keto diet
I know people that have never taken ssri's in their life yet are the most apathetic people I've ever met.
If sensitive people take ssri's, then they will be like those apathetic people you know.
@M Z me too
@M Z it’s been about a year and a half for me
@Pssd Italian i can unterstand you. I am numbness since 5 years every drugs worsen it. I cannot understand to call such treatment help. I was destroyed by snri for Pain treatment.
Yeah your dumb that’s all I’m gonna say this is this most useless comment I’ve ever read, just my educated opinion but thanks for posting because ig your creating some reality for me to be at conflict with
After crying almost everyday for 15 months, I'm happy to have a break.
So was it crying therapy?🤔
Try Magic mushrooms.
@@turbonbc i heard even just one good trip can make people accept really deep truths within themselves
@@silvestresilva9390 Yes this is quite common with these great medicines nature has offered us.
Are you on an antidepressant? Any recommendations?
I understand what you’re saying but when you naturally have so much empathy that it hurts or so much sensitivity that you never get ahead, these things are a lifesaver and I can live with some disturbance in my sex life. I resisted them for years because I thought it was a crutch but now I know that for some people we do have a chemical imbalance and No matter how much therapy or meditation or walking or journaling, Life can be a constant struggle when you have depression. I can still cry and feel deeply for people and animals. I still feel pain when I see a small child or an animal scared or hurt.
same, I totally agree, it hurts.
@@yachanakhatker706 do u take lexapro . i just started m from india
Well said
@@rounakagrawal3701 Zoloft
@@yachanakhatker706 ? It feel better!
I haven't noticed any of these side effects...but even if I had, it's better than having no energy all day and wanting to commit suicide for no reason whatsoever. A lot of unfounded judgement from people who have no idea in these comments.
She said in the video that if you need them to 'get out of bed in the morning' that's what they are there for. She's only talking about people taking them for reasons that aren't necessary, reasons that could be solved another way, and how the side effects are having serious impacts on peoples lives that shouldn't even be on them. That's how I understood it.
no reason? i understand why people say this and feel like it myself sometimes, but its an exaggeration, imo. there's always a reason, even if its realised after the fact, which people usually do looking back at a depressive episode. i think it's most likely suppressed in some kind of defence mechanism or something, which is understandable when emotional stress is and can be a difficult thing to deal with. i feel like administering pharmaceuticals is too often trying to thread a needle with oven gloves and a blindfold on though, maybe better than nothing in some cases but it's a tough call for sure...
i haven't studied it too much, just what i've gathered really.
MrBradJJ ''i haven't studied it too much, just what i've gathered really.'' My point exactly. If you dont know.. dont speak?
chadon legran so only people who have studied it are allowed to comment? everyone can say their bit. take it how you will.
MrBradJJ
Of course you can say your bit. And should. But remember that what you're saying is based on personal experience. Those who have experienced debilitating depression often actually don't have a tangible "reason" for being depressed. That's the sort of profound mental situation that antidepressants were made for (as stated in the video). The problem comes when they're prescribed as a knee-jerk reaction to problems that could be better solved by other means.
Id rather be on antidepressants and feeling like a zombie than constantly being feared for my life.
Most ppl want quick fixes rather than working on root causes which the medical system and drug companies have no interest in. You don't need Meds u r already a zombie.
@Martin S for the time being. All of those therapies still are not getting to root cause. Were u born depressed?
It’s really not at all good
@@carolinespence15 the root cause of depression is a chemical imbalance, period. Guess what treats the chemical imbalance? SSRIs, or antidepressants. Shocking, I know. Also, if you're going to say we aren't meant to live on them then by all means tell the same thing to someone who is diabetic or who has cancer. Tell them to get to the root cause of their problem.
eval0veslifexx no there’s no period on that ands Ssris are hardly akin at all to to insulin and are hardly super drugs and btw, this comments coming from someone who’s been on them and may go on them again.
I think you really have to have gone through moderate-to-severe CLINICAL depression to understand that being a "zombie" (in the short term) is infinitely preferable to feeling the lowest of lows, pain, fear, darkness etc. Speaking from experience, once the medication takes hold and your brain chemistry improves, you slowly start to feel better and better and eventually get back to feeling "normal" again, which is an amazing feeling. You eventually will laugh/cry/feel all like you used to before while being on the medication. And you may not have to be on the medication -- most people get off it after a year or two. Medication is a godsend for so many.
The cry, laugh, joy thing on medication never happened to me. It just made me numb and likely having PSSD and still experiencing dysfunctions even at nearing 1 year on this shit. And it might take months or years for me to get fully clean of the poison.
Right...so sometimes these feelings are more at the onset. And there are studies that show there might be a link to numbing and depression itself - occasionally resulting in someone accidentally blaming the medication rather than what was already there. This stuff is hard to figure out until we have improved tech
Clinical depression runs in my family, and due to childhood trauma I got Generalized Anxiety Disorder on top of it, literally have to take medication to function right and think reasonably. When I'm off my meds I slip into a terrible depressive state where I can't work, socialize, and I literally give up on all responsibilities in my life. But when I'm on the medication, I don't feel like that, I get the strength to get out of bed and go to work, be involved with my family, and create new goals for myself. For people that say antidepressants make your life worse or they'd rather self medicate, that's just nonsense. Chemical imbalances are the real deal, and I refused to take my antidepressants twice in the past 5 years and I watched my life fall apart because of self sabotage. I just make better decisions when I'm on Lexapro (escitalopram) yeah the side effects kick your ass and makes you feel worse at first, but if you can push on, these medications can and will help.
Utter nonsense. These drugs cause permanent brain damage and apathy and indifference to feelings and emotions is brain damage.
What this woman is saying is true to an extent. I have been taking ssri’s for 3/4 years, and I quit 2 months ago. Looking back, I can definitely see I had less empathy, couldn’t cry very often etc. Although my mood was stable, I didn’t get panic attacks... I have panic attacks everytime I have to leave the house now, sometimes even when I have to leave my room. I cry multiple times a day, I feel like the world is just too much for my brain to handle. On my meds, I didn’t feel apathetic, I just had the right amount of empathy and emotions to function like a normal human being. Yes, ssri’s do these things, but if you’re on the right dosage and you actually have a mental illness that can’t be fixed with just therapy, they might save your life, like they did for me. I’m probably going back on them soon. Don’t judge people who take them unless you have been right there in their shoes. You do not know what others are going through. Some people can function just fine with a little therapy, excercise and a healthy diet. Others need medication to fix chemical imbalances in their brain. And you have no right to judge their choice to try and feel happy again. Everyone deserves to feel happy.
Lol or just stop being a fkn depressed loser 😂
There's no "one shoe fits all"
Absolutely. And not even to feel happy, but just not feel like garbage all the time.
I fee like this every time I come off and I end up back on them within 3months.
It’s been 20yrs and I do wonder what it’s like if I ever get to the other side? Just like it takes a few months to really feel the effects and benefits of a new medication, is it possible that it takes maybe a few months - 6? Up to a year? I always wonder what it might be like if I got to that stage? Would I learn ways to cope with my over-sensitivity, and have less of the extreme highs and lows, once I’m fully natural/chemical free?
But I’ve never made it there yet. I’m too scared I’ll die. But I’m not sure I can keep living like this either.
Let me know how you go.
If you get past this tough part and keep on without them till the benefits start to kick in - or of you feel it’s safest to go back to being medicated. I wish you all the best whatever happens, and look forward to hearing more about your journey hopefully.
But could that just be SSRI withdrawal effects? It can take a looooong time to wean off and go back to your normal self AFAIK
I have noticed that I can't cry , not even when I was excruciating pain and had to be rushed to the hospital Wednesday....I don't mind not being able to cry or be over empathetic. Maybe it's just me , but this is coming from a person who cried too much, felt to much , couldn't handle the smallest stresses , was over overly sensitive, always frustrated and overwhelmed by any and everything . So not being able to feel isn't bothering me ( at the moment ) I haven't experienced any weight gain ..I lost 5 pounds in a week though...not sure how healthy that is . I'm okay with the vivid dreams . I've experienced similar dreams my whole life , from feeling literal pain to feeling like I was dying in my dreams ...I haven't had a single nightmare since on these meds . I just wake up calm
What ssri you are on and what dosage? And how long? Im thinking to be on some i feel sad daily
Omg that's exactly what I want to avoid. My emotions have controlled me my whole life and I'm tired of it. I dont want to feel anymore. I just want to get through life. I'm starting on sertraline generic for zoloft and I'm praying it works. Which one are you on if you dont mind me asking ? I also have GAD and panic disorder. It's just horrible. I'm tired of being a prisoner to all of this. Have no social life and can't even work. I just want to live a little
Girlll RIGHT!! You sound like me! Hope you are doing well!
Yaneth Peña there are other ways to deal with this and be more balanced than taking toxic chemicals. Sounds like there is something very internal that needs to be dealt with. Maybe you need to purge? I recommend 3 grams of psilocybin, I’m not a doctor but they are natural and your not gonna die.
Search "PSSD" on Google !!
My ability to empathize hasn’t gone down. I still cry because I’m a sensitive human. I just now can live my life without panic attacks and without having my emotions make all my important decisions because of antidepressants.
@@echotic205 Thats called life. Bad shit happens. You can't help those people.
@@anusblaster8671 you sound like you're on an antidepressant yourself
@@anusblaster8671 thats the kind of shit i would say
Probably on only 20-40mg and I doubt you haven't been on it for years. Good luck with ur magic pill
@@echotic205 this happened when I was overmedicated for bipolar on 600Sseroquel 1200 lithium 10mg Valium as needed . I have dystonic disorder from the anti psychotic and it causes me the jolt and twitch
It was being emotional and empathizing that got me into depression in the first place. I'm done. Now I can flip the script in my own life and not deal with people who preyed on my state.
“Not deal with people who preyed on my state” - Thats my experience too!! As soon as I started being medicated, I stop caring about those folks that were using me before or even the folks that used to upset me often. I cut them all out of my life easily. It was a freedom I never had before .
@@thewrongshoes soooooo relatable!!!!!!
You're not very Empathetic towards the 1000's upon 1000's of Marriages that have been destroyed by SSRI'S. The wife of couple in our church right now has gone totally off the deep end and changed drastically since she has been on SSRI'S . The Marriage is destroyed and everything Julie says is to a T of what we have seen!
@@galatians22122 If one is suffering from untreated depression that isn’t a happy marriage. You want the depressed spouse to suffer and not be treated just to get them to stick around. That’s sick. How is a marriage destroyed because a wife is happier or slightly less emotional exactly ? She puts up with less mistreatment ? She can walk away from a bad relationship with less guilt ? Yeah I see why you don’t like it.
@@thewrongshoes You're not very Empathetic towards the 1000's upon 1000's of Marriages that have been destroyed by SSRI'S. The wife of couple in our church right now has gone totally off the deep end and changed drastically since she has been on SSRI'S . The Marriage is destroyed and everything Julie says is to a T of what we have seen!
i’ve been on zoloft for about 3 months now and empathy was the last thing on my mind before and now, a depressed person could care less about others feelings when they have to worry about their own smh😤
Why should empathy be a priority? People with depression and anxiety have struggled enough, and we don't need to devote our happiness to anyone else until we can enjoy our own happiness.
That's exactly wrongheaded and backwards from the start.
When you look outside of yourself and really focus on helping others' wellbeing instead of selfishly trying to satisfy every one of your own desires, only then you will find happiness.
This!!! I'm sorry but the only reason I have depression and anxiety is because others grew it into being. They bullied me to commit suicide by calling me retarded and ugly every day. So why NOT take anti depressants when I have depression as a result of social rejection, when my peers want me to die off by instinct? People at my job said I cried so much they wished they could KILL me. This was a supposedly professional organization. Was I giving them empathy by showing my pain? OBVIOUSLY NOT. Since they have no empathy and I do, why not even it out? Those traits ssri take away supposedly - climaxing, empathy, crying not only do i miss NONE of them- my only wish is that I could up my dose to further fortify my self and I'm on the strongest ssri there is!
Because it can result in violent behavior. Eric Harris (Columbine shooter) was taking Luvox.
melmano thats in no way what antidepressants do if they are prescribed properly
That is dumb thinking, and besides, that's not what empathy is.
Climax...lol...sex is the last thing on a depressed person's mind...Prozac works for me...
I'm going on that soon
Yeh well we are talking about women here
Same.. and you are exactly right. I can’t tell if Prozac is hurting my sex life because I didn’t have one.. and I have a boyfriend of almost 8 years.
Does it work for ur partner.
Not just a side effect for women... Premature ejaculation is funny, and if it takes a guy a long time to get off awesome.... It really blows though when you're horny a lot and want to have sex but fuck for an hour+ and still can't get off. Gets a bit tedious for both partners sometimes...
I miss my emotions when I’m on antidepressants. I don’t give a shit about everyone. The thing about being manic is not true because you feel sleepy and sluggish. You become insensitive, less passionate, less interested. It’s like playing with your emotions. That’s why I don’t want to use it anymore.
It works for PMS relief
Its starting to seem to me that ssri's do make people insensitive... even mean and heartless without realising how they are hurting people who arent on meds!
Does emotions\caring come back after quitting??
@@HackZiLLaQ8 I'm sure it would but of course one must come off drugs gradually or u could plunge into depression
@@HackZiLLaQ8 good question. If you leave the drugs you can get a relapse.
I was on anti depressants for 20 years of my life and now I'm completely off them and feel so much happier and more myself I think they should only be used in emergencyies if suicidal person and only for a temporary time
I was on anti depressants and I always was able to cry when I needed to, just wanted to remind everyone that she's generalizing :)
on what antidepressant u were on and on what dose please?
I think many people including myself are prescribed anti-depressants because depression is so serious that we can't get out of bed and going to work becomes very difficult. I don't know about these women taking anti-depressants because their friends, coworkers are taking the SSRIs and to get ahead...? Well, we live in a very competitive society and that adds even more pressure especially to women. But I don't know any women who are taking antidepressants because of peer pressure (sort of) at work. I have been taking anti-depressants and don't even want to share this with my coworkers. There is still deep stigma against depression and antidepressants. Many people think depression is a sign of weakness, we should be able to cope with it. People who make this type of insensitive comments don't understand what is like to suffer from depression. But I do think that medication is not a permanent solution and we have to change our lifestyles, use more coping skills so we don't rely on medication so much.
But I agree with Dr Holland on critical self-care tools..exercise, relaxation, lifestyle..but if nothing works, you have to take medication. If it doesn't work, you can try another medication, continue to exercise..I don't know about herbal supplements. Do enough research and don't just think that these supplements are better than man-made medications!
Angel Zen
Angel Zen my mom is forcing me to use drugs just to make me study more, and she is saying ur bro should use too to leave cigarrate, as if drugs r niccotine gums, so yes i know ppl that drugs r stigma for them and ppl that drugs r like gums for them
I wish a peaceful life for us all
Anti-depressants are probably not needed by the majority of people taking them. In the long term SSRIs are less effective and become a bipolar risk. We need fewer SSRIs but that is not in the interests of big pharma.
Sue 7, I don't quite understand your comment completely, but if your mom is forcing you to take drugs to study, that is abuse! That is not okay, at all. I don't know where you live as English seems to be your second language, but if your society allows it and has good child protection laws, maybe reach out to another adult that you trust and can help.
I found my empathy increasing after starting Fluoxetine. With SSRIs, I am no longer so wrapped up in my horrible thoughts so I can shift the focus on to other people and start to make them feel good about themselves.
I am no longer living inside my own head. No longer feeling that I’m not worthy of love or friendship or respect. No longer feeling like I can’t live through the worst possible outcome of a given scenario-I am now capable of recognising that even when shit happens, I will ultimately be okay.
Depression and anxiety no longer dictate the way I frame things. I can see why you might think it causes people to worry less about consequences but, for someone like me, who was on the other end of the spectrum where I worried about EVERYTHING, I have found a happy and fulfilled middle ground. It doesn’t turn me into some sort of manic risk-seeker. I’m still cautious and rarely rush into situations without thinking about the consequences.
SSRIs are NOT for everyone. But they can change your life if you fit the right criteria.
P.S. This is a bonus for me but might not be great for people with ED-sex tends to last a lot longer on SSRIs!
Still that good?
Exactly what happened to me!! Thanks for writing. I was on them for 2.5 years..slowly tapered off to the lowest dosage but got relapses after 2.5 years...so my doc says we need to start again, slowly.
I was on and off antidepressants since age 17 , i'm now 43 . I'm finally free of them . Never will touch them again. Until i got to the root of my problems nothing changed. I had so much unforgiveness and bitterness . I had to dig deep and let it all go .
Redeemed Child congrats for doing the hard yards and getting free. I’m 43 this year and have been off them for around 7 something years; not easy.
I would love to be free of meds coz of the side effects... so was it all about bitterness /unforgiveness? Is that really just all u had to do to be free of meds? Forgive? Please tell me id love to know
There was a time in my life when I: 1) Could not envision ever being able to hold down a job; 2) Was afraid to leave my home state and travel, to the point where my entire family would go on vacation and I would stay home; 3) Was a chronic hypochondriac; 4) Was cripplingly indecisive. I could probably list another dozen serious problems inhibiting me from thriving. Antidepressants (first Celexa, then Wellbutrin, and eventually Prozac and Wellbutrin) along with some talk therapy have enabled me to live a "normal life" in the best sense of the term. I have worked and thrived in professional jobs for the past 13 years; previously even a day at work was torturous. I travel and have experienced many things I once only read about in books. I have a healthy social life and am actively pursuing artistic and creative endeavors. I have many great friends (not unhealthy relationships like I used to have with bullying type individuals) and an excellent relationship with everyone in my family. I have also learned through talk therapy to set boundaries, in a way that wouldn't have been possible without the aid of antidepressants. I have actively volunteered for 7 years while on antidepressants and don't see any lack of empathy whatsoever; what I do see is an ability to add rationality to my empathy and to put my empathy into action instead of lying at home in a crumpled heap. I am able to function better in the midst of difficulty rather than being crippled by it; personally I don't consider this equivalent to "not feeling". This is just one person's experience. Believe what you will.
I don't think people grasp the difference between a feeling and a mood. Depression really needs to be better explained by doctors with very real examples and lots of dialog
Depression happens when God isn't in your life .
@@juanareyes7119 God isn't neurochemistry, by definition of terms both theists and scientists agree on. Your comment is thusly irrelevant to the context of this discussion. It's like saying a lack of color is responsible for combustion in an engine while we're considering different implementations of fuel injection systems.
I'm sure you believe and intend to help, but you're quantifiable not doing that at all here lol
@@paxdriver as a matter of fact I can give Testimony that God
Can deliver from Depression
Prozac zantax ect don't work and
make you into a living dead zombie
With zero emotions. Only God can Save
and deliver. God bless
@@paxdriver Did you know that the pineal gland plays a big role
In the human body too connect spiritually Did you know a jewish scientist discovered that Gods initiales
are engraved in our DNA.
@@juanareyes7119 we invented the word for God. We translated his word and we don't quite it in Aramaic. God's initials are literally whatever we needed to prescribe them to be able to begin to even discuss the concept.
God's initials are not on DNA, they are DNA... and physics equations, and time and causation. You presume to understand the unfathomable and apply that to what is measurable and tangible (science). If you want to make use of the brain God gave you, it behooves you to learn to compartmentalize every now and then so you have something balanced to grow from. If you believe God's love entails endless pain and sacrifice then you're missing the part of God's word about appreciating the real world around you imho. You're also not helping people with your energy if they literally need a chemical supplement to feel like you. Look up fibromyalgia, or diabetic neuropathy. Depression isn't just feeling blue as you presume to understand. It's a full physical affair affecting appetite, coordination, cognition, sleep, inflammation, all kinds of things. God wouldn't want you to prevent relief of others in his name or your vanity. Be humble. Admit there are things you don't know or understand, and actually walk the walk you preach.
Several people I know including myself have described a feeling of being numb on antidepressants. It's one reason among many I stopped taking them years ago and sought out psychological therapy instead.
I’ve gone through multiple antidepressants and it’s always the same thing: first few months everything is abnormally great and then it fades and I’m back to the way I was 6 months later. Also, the nightmare of quitting one is no joke. A friend of mine has been addicted to heroin, cocaine and alcohol (at different periods in his life) and said that quitting an antidepressant was worse than all 3 combined because 1) it lasted 6 months to a year and 2) his own thoughts were not in his control and they were horrible, horrible thought patterns every waking second of the day.
I totally agree.
I quit SSRI antidepressants without horrible side effects. It might depend on the drug and the person.
@@Catlily5 how ... did you taper?
@@TheDwainfortune I think they tapered me off but I don't remember.
Quintessential feminine things:
- Crying
- Climaxing
- Empathy
- Passion.
Alright
I don't think this lady gets it. When you're suicidal and you have panic attacks, and then take these drugs, it's not like you don't react anymore. Instead of overreacting, you react properly. If you don't have anxiety and don't overreact, then you probably will feel like a zombie. These aren't the people these drugs are designed for.
deliasthename exactly
But see there’s a flip side, yes your depression is toned down but so is you’re happiness, I overreact and have anxiety but when I’m happy I feel this euphoria that’s wonderful I wouldn’t trade that for anything
a million percent
I feel normal like I just don’t overthink everything constantly I’m so much more chilled out , I constantly wanted to die and did try kill myself i had panic attacks every day and it was pure agony , I’ve been on these for 4 months and it’s almost like I’m in shock because I just feel balanced I feel normal
@@randomhuman9672 lol I did not have a feeling of euphoria when I was going through depression, i didnt truly enjoy anything, now I do. I think it depends on the person. I had anxiety every minuite of every day, my depression was getting worse and worse, I fantasized about dying regularly, I didnt enjoy anything like I used to, i didnt really enjoy anything as a matter of fact. Even if I was playing a game or something that I liked, it was always there, in the background, dampening my emotions. Now that I am on antidepressants, i actually enjoy things, I actually feel euphoria sometimes, its fantastic, never thought I would feel like this again.
My boyfriend is on Antidepressants. They make things so difficult for me. I’m glad he’s not sad but his lack of regular emotions creates distance between us and makes him essentially not feel the joy and love that I feel for him. And the sex thing is very true, climax is nearly impossible. I’m just terrified that antidepressants are ruining our relationship.
They are. Not everyone will have this happen but many do. It's emotional blunting and can have lasting effects on the people closest to them. It almost killed me. Either his dose is to high or he needs a different medication. I can tell you that he needs a different doctor. Because if this has gone unnoticed or is intentionally being overlooked it's extremely dangerous. The consequences of not having emotional responses or the inability to connect with the people around us is just as bad as the depression it's used to treat. Please get him to a Dr that will explain. And I wish you the best.
@@TheSuperDeuce29 Hey man I appreciate the comment! His condition has bettered overtime. I think he has realized what they do and has quit them all together.
Yes I think they numb the person on them, no sadness or empathy. No feeling.
Hi, i am so glad to read this and watched this video. I just separate from my husband of 10 y becase he became totally numb and unempathic. He has been on them for 2 y and since them our relationship changed drastically. He lost all sexual desire and blame me for that. He became so unsensitive that abuse me emotionally and didn't even care about it. He was such a good partner before them...I am extremely hurt that for some bad medical advice my life has changed so much. I left him because his abuse became unacceptable to me. I wish he could listen this...
My psychiatrist gave me only 12.5mg zoloft. My confidence was threw the roof and relaxed and Just a not giving a fuck attitude. I think the doctors are prescriving way too high dosages. The starters many do is 50mg zoloft. That is so incredibly high
I am very content with the antidepressants im taking. Without them my emotions would be too strong and overwhelming to manage. I am able to figure things out logically before acting, feel strong and self-confident, and have a balanced perspective on life. I no longer want to die, I no longer believe that everyone hates me, and I no longer consider myself to be a piece of shit.
All the things you mentioned (aside from the climaxing) are positives to me.
Amazing. Which ones did you take?
@@Dani-uz2bk Fluoxetine HCl
You guys are putting a bandaid on it.. ⛑🩹
Life is beautiful but it isn’t a content thing. People spend years trying to be content with their current situations in their lives and surroundings .. Taking a pill to be content is weak. You might as well get the SSI that comes with it , and not work a day in your life with that mindset.
Btw I’ve been heavily medicated since a 5 year old child , gone thru all types of crap too , homelessness withdrawals. Abusive parents , relationships, losing my own child , losing my own sanity. Panic attacks all the above ... I’m super OCD. I’m not saying I’m better than anybody. I’m trying to encourage people to see the light. Being reliant on anything except food , water , shelter is a bad idea.
I've been on 150 mg of one for like 15 years now. I've never had any of these issues but I think I'm the most well adjusted member of my family...And the only one who ever sought any help
Sertraline?
I see a lot of comments defending the use of antidepressants. I would have done the same when I started taking venlafaxine (effexor). I started to change my opinion when it turned out that my liver suffered from that drug. Retrospectively, I would also say that my physician was dishonest: She told me that that the drug wasn't addictive. What she didn't tell me was that this didn't mean that you wouldn't be dependent on the drug. CZcams is, as you may have noticed, full with videos about the problem of quitting venlafaxine. I am not a female. However, I can confirm that what is said in the video applies to males as well. If your depression isn't too severe, you should definitely stay away from these drugs.
Nikolaus und Rupprecht OMG I hate Effexor! I don’t know what to dooooo !!! I’ve been off it for ages but now I’m like a total zombie! Have no memories at all!! I’m terrifieddddd
@@JetmiraaaOfficial same here!
I stopped meds years ago but my emotions and my sex drive never returned.
I have PSSD,post ssri sexual dysfunction.
I am devastated!
@@sharonheskey1418 how are you now?
I'm really sure you can help yourself to be healthier. I already did that thanks to Weedborn.
Psilocybin containing mushrooms save my life. The drastically reduced my benzodiazepine withdrawal allowing me to quite illicit pill addiction after three years of heavy daily use before it would had became medically dangerous to quit
LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life..I became a better version of myself.
This experience gave me a lot of confidence about myself and a bunch of bad thought/behaviour pattern were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands alot..it gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip. The main reason for the trip was my severe Depression and it definitely helped me. Before all I could do was lay in bed, now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before.
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
@@allybee342 I've been having this constant, unbearable anxiety because of university stress..not until I came across Myco_louiis.. he really helped me
The Trips I've been having have really helped me a lot,I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well
Saw some reviews about myco_louiis,checked him out and I must recommend he is good at what he does!
He's reliable and guide you through microdosing
I suffer from a type of sound sensitivity that had a very sudden onset. It separates me from certain people and places. It’s made me more depressed than I’ve ever been. I was really skeptical about SSRI’s, but I’ve gotta be honest here...Zoloft was amazing. It took my irritability, anxiety, and depression from a 9 to a 2. And it had other benefits that I didn’t even see coming. My social anxiety vanished. I’d never realized how much I had! So I no longer put up with certain toxic people at work. I mean I’m well liked around my workplace, but I remember looking one of them in the eye and saying “shut the fuck up.” And then just held the stare. Now they leave me alone or are just nice to me! And Zoloft really freed up my mind. Doing projects around the house became a piece of cake. I built a set of landscaping steps and two garden boxes in my backyard. I NEVER do stuff like that. And at no point did I have to rethink anything or constantly question my own ability or get anxious about picking all the wood up from Home Depot...just built all this stuff within a few days. I won’t get into some of the downsides and why I got off of it after several months, but I’m A LOT less judgmental about these drugs now.
How are you feeling now that you are off the Zoloft? I take it, and after years and years of dealing with depression, I will never be without it
@@Lulu-kt6gr I actually went back on it then off it a few times. Everyone's situation is unique but when I got off of it I just noticed that my nerves were a little heightened and I was more on edge. I take a low dose of Lexapro now and it works fine
@@patrickking9600 whats your dose? If u dont mind me asking
@@OhhhJP I took 10mg and then 20mg of Lexapro for almost a year. Now I take Viibryd, 20mg.
@@patrickking9600 damn i thought u were gonna say u take no meds now… i dont wanna take meds forever. I wanna get better get off and hopefully stay better. Whyd u switch
I read articles often that talk about how society today is significantly less empathetic than it was in the past, about how the generations today are having less sex than ever, and in my own experience how people just seem generally unsympathetic (let alone empathetic?). It also seems like in society today that most people are on some kind of antidepressant? Connection anyone???
It's creepy how she describes crying as a "quintessential female thing"
Everyone is different.
Personally, I found that the negative side-effects get more noticeable the higher dosage you take. (Obviously)
I lowered my dosage because I found I was feeling numb and unexcited, and now I feel great. SSRIs changed my life and I feel MORE like myself because I have less anxiety and my sadness is actually manageable.
Some people go on them for a bit, some go on for a lifetime. Some try them and it makes them feel like crap. It isn't the same for everyone haha
bullshit. some people got it from lower dosage as well
For me, I think antidepressants can give you a little push to your moods and positivity...You can take advantage of your happier moods to inculcate healthy constructive habits like exercising, new hobbies, etc. which will build new neural pathways...Also, through exercising and healthy habits, you will gain more health, energy and confidence...When you are ready, by consulting your doctor you can try stopping the medications by gradually tapering off...this is exactly what i am doing right now
and how did that go for you? Did you taper off and what was your experience?
Trying to get better "naturally" almost killed me and wasted a year and a half of my life where I was so miserable I could barely function other than dragging myself to work. Shaming people for using antidepressants makes me absolutely FURIOUS. I would have thrown myself off a bridge without them and I was still ashamed because of this kind of bullsh*t messaging. They absolutely saved my life. I am extremely privileged in that I had access an excellent GP and psychologist, was able to afford and access good food, yoga, safe places to exercise, supplements etc etc etc. But depression stole my willpower, energy, ability to sleep properly and literally made me incapable of hauling myself out for a run. Getting out of bed and through the shower to work took everything I had in me. Antidepressants gave me a little bit of space and energy back that I could then start building consistently better habits and finally get into an upwards spiral and feel like myself again. I still had to work at it, they don't make you magically happy they just make the oppressive smothering hopelessness a not totally crushing load. I had to try several before I found one that was effective with a tolerable side effects profile but it was so worth it and even the ones that I tried and didn't stick with would have been better than nothing if they were all that was available. Please, if you think you need them don't let anyone make you feel bad about it, you're already going through enough. Fighting depression means you are strong not weak, it's a very hard thing to do. No one takes antidepressants just for the hell of it. Exercise and other lifestyle interventions are effective for managing mood when you are just a bit down and as a preventative for relapse but telling someone who is severely depressed to just get more exercise and sleep is cruel, we are literally incapable at that point. I totally recommend Andrew Solomon's beautiful talk on depression over this judgemental garbage 💜
The issue here is the fact that you act as if everyone else will respond to medication the same way or similar at least. Your defending a pharmaceutical lab made medication that has faced constant controversy surrounding it since day one, and you want to talk about judgment? You deserve to be judged if this is your true opinion and guess what everyone judges their surroundings and others whether you f****** accept it it or not.
@@ManyLegions88 If you want to judge me on my opinion that's totally fine. My comment was for people who need to hear a voice supportive of their decision to try medication.
This is so well said. When I stopped SSRIs I realized how much of life I was missing. Emotions are as much as sense as touch, sight, etc.; we use them to interpret our experience of reality, they inform us. When I was on SSRIs, I had the emotional equivalent to how taste and smell are muted with a head cold. I also wonder how much of society's problems today are a result of a population overmedicated on SSRIs and thus not having the emotional response we evolved to live a society. It seem obvious that there is a muted empathy response with folks today. Sad thing is that we have no chance against pharma companies' huge marketing budgets to discuss other options. Sigh.
Statements like "quintessential feminine things are: climax, cry, empathy, sensitivity, passion" make me fucking angry.
Who do you think wrote all the passionate poems, that caress your heart, when your lover left you? What musicians had all the sensitivity to feel so differentiated, to compose classical music, which makes men an women still weep after hundreds of years? Can't remember too many women... (yeah, I know, in those times women were suppressed, but still). Quintessential feminine things my ass.
macheifach Ugh. Calm down, dick, it was a throwaway remark that was completely besides the wider point of the video. Those incredibly broad concepts are what many women define themselves by. At no point did she say that men can't or don't do any of that shit, but for no reason at all that was your interpretation.
+macheifach You deserve to be offended because you seek out being offended. You are a sucker in life.
I choose to be offended, it's a part of my humanity, indifference on the other hand is death to everything. I'm offended/disgusted by injustice or misjudgment for example.
macheifach "Indifference is death to everything" - Modesty, rationality, composure and objectivity are virtues to be valued, not scorned, because they make you smarter, happier, more cordial and more able to make informed decisions.
Brashness, antagonism and the immediate taking of umbrage are not character traits to be embraced or celebrated.
+Chris McSweeney I don't think, I need you lecturing me. So tell me, what is your objective observation concering said claims? I think, we should come to a similar conclusions, right? Namly, that Mrs. Holland has a humongous blind spot and the traits in question are as common in men as in women (actually, they are quintessential traits of a human being; read Ludwig Feuerbach, if you want to go more indepth). I am actually concerned, that such an ignorant person as her, gives psychological advice.
Wow! I needed to hear this. I’ve started taking Paxil. And I don’t like the side effects. I’m naturally a very emotional passionate but anxious person. I don’t want to loose my empathy and passion that are my strengths as I see them....
Suffering from OCD I can confirm that SSRIs initially stabilized me after a botched therapy that worsened my symptoms. Last year I tried to cut out the SSRI and after two weeks I had the worst relapse imaginable - it kind of feels to me that this medication has damaged my brain. My brain just kept on producing this unbearable fear that almost led to suicide. Thanks be to God I found a good therapist and I am attempting ERP for my OCD. Godwillingly I will be able to live without SSRIs at one point.
Thank you! I used to be empathetic, now I feel like a sociopath. My depression is bad so I take ssri's but the lack of empathy actually causes me stress! I talk to people and feel so detached from their experiences. I feel detached to my own normally painful experiences also which is even weirder.
i was always against anti depressants, but i needed some to get through a time in my life. Then after i took them, i realised how much i did need them all those years with out. I was always up and down, i was more emotionally driven, which held me back. I got angry and upset over too many things. Some people just have a in-balance of chemicals in their brains. Me included. I just did not realise this. Now, I think more logical, and i feel i have a balance of logic and emotions. I see this in-balance as a unseen disability. But its one that can be treated. I feel I have a real bright future, my life starts now.
If you are experiencing problems taking any anti-depressants, its either too little, too much or the wrong type of drug for you. Go back to your doctor and get your prescription adjusted.
I know this was 5 years ago but I would love to hear how you’re doing these days, I’ve been addicted and when I got sober I still felt so depressed nothing really changed except I wasn’t high I’m going to see about taking anti depressants
@@mohsin7702 did you the the antidepressants? How are you doing? It can take a long time to get the right dosage and medication, but it’s worth it.
I find this concept so difficult. I've been on Mirtazapine 15mg for 6 weeks. I'm doing better than I was but I'm still sad. Too sad. The options of a) waiting longer b) upping dosage (side effects will return) c)stopping and changing to another med (withdrawal plus new side effects) ... it is an impossible thing to judge and weigh up 😔
Ah yes all these comments it's always I I I look at my life. I don't care what side effects you got but I am doing better so I don't care! ridiculous
I'm a person who needs medication to avoid extreme emotional & neurological problems, so, i can't really relate to what she's saying. People have been saying bad things about meds for years and i don't see this as much different than the old arguments. Also, saying women have to be moody seems almost like it's reinforcing a sexist stereotype of women.
That said, i agree that certain meds are very powerful and dangerous so, you have to find the right med for you... i went thru quite a few different meds before i found the combo that works for me. So i understand and agree with that part of her argument.
UncleBibby47 Your comment is so on point, wanted to write the same thing but you saved me time
I’ll never forget when my 3rd child was born, I had a neighbor, not ask IF I was taking antidepressants, but WHICH ONE I was taking. When my response was “I’m not taking any”, she was super shocked and continued to tell me that I’m the only mother she knows of that’s not taking anything. Fast-forward 10 yrs and 2 more kids later, and I have been taking Zoloft for 5 days now. I know they say it takes weeks to take effect, but from being the most depressed I’ve been, not able to get out of bed, crying all the time, not interested in anything, to now having the energy to get out of bed and do the daily things I should have been but just couldn’t for the 8-10 months prior, I’m am sooo happy that I made the decision to finally talk with my doctor. My point is, I don’t think taking them just because you’re a mom or you have a couple bad days a month is right, but for me, now, it is.
Interesting video. I'm on 25 mg of Sertraline (Zoloft) and I can say that I'm far less weepy, depressed, stressed out, anxious, and overwhelmed. My emotions and feelings are still in tact and I have always been an empathizer - so much so that it's hurt me - but now I have more control over my emotions, feelings, and moods. It's not perfect. The medication makes me irritable and I easily become agitated but I can clearly identify those moods as a side-effect so no big deal. I still have to work at being motivated to do things - but the SSRI (even that low dose) has made a tremendous impact on my daily life.
How do you feel now? I’m on same , topping it to 50 mg. Any insights will be helpful, thanks
Updates? Still that good?
So since I have taken quitipine and sertraline I have had the best year of my life. I've saved money, got in the gym, able to relax more, think more clearly. Oh, I can still cry, both in sorrow and happiness. Everything you've stated is completely the opposite effect that I've had.
How long before you experience the good effects?
@@zhenhuo607 People respond in different ways. It can take upto a week or so to start noticing the benefits. However, we are all different and some can take longer. My advice to stick at it and if you not noticing any benefits after a fortnight, go back and see your doctors.
Thanks for your time, hope I feel better after a heartbroken. It's so hard living a life everyday
@tyrel No way near 100lkg More like 5kgs. But that's why exercise and diet is important
I'm on cipralex, and I can relate completely to this. It's hard to cry, I lack empathy etc. However, I am much happier, and I've been doing so much better health wise. So I will definitely be staying on this antidepressant.
Dominique Robb what other health reasons? I feel like committing suicide a lot,will it stop all the negative feelings? Will it just kill my emotions completely?
@@nickabbott319 yes, you will feel better for sure. I was like you just 2 weeks ago and now my thoughts changed completely. Talk to your doctor, has been a blessing for me discovering that there is a solution for my problem. It will change your emotions in a better way.
@Khazar Khanate Archer Hi (sorry for my english too) yes, first of all it is good that you went to a specialist and that he prescribed you a cure. Trust him, because even if you are not depressed, many ssri are used to treat many other symptoms, including agitation and negative thoughts that you report. So there is a reason why you were prescribed this drug. So trust him, you can feel comfortable!
Dominique Robb did you quit?!
Search "PSSD" on Google !!
Epic gamer fact: I'm on an SSRI and if anything it's made me more empathetic and emotional since I can now feel things other than ✨pain and dullness✨
Hi I was wondering what SSRI you take? And what was your experience like before and after? I am thinking of going on antidepressant for my depression. I haven't been able to feel anything and it's like there's a void in my head. I used to have bad anxiety and racing thoughts but I've emotionally flat-lined for a few months now. I'm a little reluctant to take antidepressants because I'm afraid it would make my symptoms worse. Empathy and emotions would be nice though
@@mandyennhi i am going through the same thing i have severe anxiety and depression, which has made me feel numb to things especially sadness, and im still debating on wether or not to go on antidepressants, i got prozac recommended for me. Im not sure though because i dont want my numbness to be worse either i can still laugh and fear just not sadness or anything else.
@@adamhammet2662 Yeah I got prescribed lexapro but stopped after one day because I was worried about being worse off. Like I am able to *be* happy, I just can't *feel* it. I can laugh, but it doesn't feel like I'm laughing from my core, it's not as satisfying... I know there's still life and emotions in me though underneath the surface. It's comforting to know that the person that I really am is only hidden under a veil of depression, and that I'm not actually dead inside haha. Praying/meditating for me has been very helpful
@@mandyennhi yes i relate to this so much you described the feeling perfectly. Im gonna start prozac next week just to see how it goes. I hope all is well with you and i send you my best wishes!
@@adamhammet2662 hi can you let me know how the prozac was for you?
One thing my therapist has taught me is that emotions are NOT a bad thing or some kind of disease to get rid of. Also being a sensitive person is not something that should be changed with pills. I wish more doctors would encourage people to seek therapy, trauma-work, mindfulness and healthy ways to regulate emotions, not just always the pills. Healthier ways certainly do exist, they have helped me a great deal in managing a life without medications. Also too many doctors don't tell about the potentially serious side-effects that these meds can cause and the awful withdrawal symptoms.
I began to worry that I turned into a sociopath and seeked help because I wasn't feeling the empathy and sympathy I always felt. Turned out to be the meds.
Antidepressants work differently for everyone. Its up to you to see if the side effects are worth the symptoms that their treating.
I had a friend who took antidepressants for a short time. He say they made him not care about anything. When driving he didn't care if the car wrecked or anything at all. He got off of them pretty quickly after that.
I'm glad he did. I didn't want to lose the friend he was. The person who was truly him.
Seems like our society wants people to be narcissistic in nature. Not feeling anything at all.
Murders and criminal behaviors abound.
First of all I would like to say wow WELL DONE! This is an incredibly informative video. I gained a lot of insight and find much of what was proposed in this video to be relatable. Having experienced SSRIs for a few years now, I definitely can speak to the social aspect... I found it very difficult to make friends before SSRIs and though it is still somewhat difficult, I do make friends and am able to socialize properly with coworkers. i had an extreme case of depression in adulthood and was initially opposed to taking medicine, but I’ve found that SSRIs make a world of difference! I don’t enjoy sex so I’m not too bummed about that part... and I would say for sure I’m still vulnerable and emotional when times get tough. It’s not a cure all. I have a lot of personality issues I’m working on. For now this works for me.
Getting off anti-depressants was the best move I ever made.
I still have some depression, but atleast I can feel emotions again :- )
How long did it take to get back to being you ?
My emotions never came back after discontinuing meds!!
Antidepressants are POISONS!!!
Are men not empathic, and sensitive....really? Isn't that polarizing and insulting to generalize like that!?
Not as much. Stop whining.
@@fangornthewise dick
My empathy levels actually increased after I started taking anti depressants
... I've been on them for different conditions ... panic disorder and traumatic grief through loss in death ... and never had the same reaction twice ... both were very overwhelming reactions on the first pill ... but daily intake was difficult to manage and then come off ,,, I can say from my experience both medication and therapy fell short ... the medical profession don't fully understand the brain or how consciousness works ... so these treatments might be better than nothing, but they are not a panacea ...
I used to be able to empathize with people, but now that I have been on Escitalopram for almost a year, I find it hard to care, I started noticing this a while back, I used to be really good at listening to people and simply letting them talk and empathize with them, now I have to pay attention for cues so that I can respond and act like I actually care so they don't think I am a heartless bastard, I am aware that I should care, but I don't, friends, family and coworkers would tell me their problems, serious problems some times, and I feel very little if anything, its like everything now is just simply matter of fact to me.
Maybe I should just talk to my doctor about this, he does seems to genuinely care about my well being whenever I go see him.
Escitalopram tend to make you talketive and with no boundaries , change the pill
Why is it that after a while antidepressants don't seem to do much for depression? If you stop them abruptly though, you feel like you've been dropped down a hole.
This is a dangerous video for someone with anxiety or depression or both, to watch.
Im on an SSRI and I am, still, overly empathetic- it hurts! I am regaining the passion I totally lost when I was in the worst place of my life. People who are feeling utterly dreadful don’t care much about whether they reach climax - as if that’s so important- but it doesn’t totally stop me.
Finding the right SSRI can be difficult but you have to weigh up the pros and cons. Don’t read and read all the side effects. I rarely comment on any videos but this popped up and I felt I needed to say to anyone concerned- the positives and hugely outweighed the negatives once through the tough first 6-8 weeks.
Anxiety disorder makes you paralyzed. It makes your life hell. Yk what it's like to get panic attacks for normal daily things that people do with so much ease. Anxiety has ruined my life and meds have helped me so much. It's really difficult to focus on anything else when you're always overwhelmed and your emotions guide your life. Yes there are a few side effects but for the first time in a long time I'm able to think a little bit clearly and I'm not caught up inside my head. There's already so much shame attached to seeking treatment for mental health and taking medicines, i had been ashamed and it took me almost a decade to get to this point and I also know that meds are not one stop solution to my problems but they have been such a huge help.
This is the best video I have watched, and she is so right on everything she says from my experience on meds. Great job, well said
Sertraline can change people beyond recognition. I'm living that fact daily. Empathy becomes a thing of the past and love in general becomes massively, diluted.
I would love for this to happen because my emotions have literally drained me .. I've been on sertraline for a week now , and I'm actually feeling worse, I knew they take some time to work so I'm waiting..I would like to know how long they took for you to work?
No doubt empathy dumps. Seen it first hand.
Agreed
I've been on Effexor for the last 3 months for my depression/anxiety and I've been feeling a lot better lately. It's certainly helped me. The only side effect, of the ones mentioned in the title, I've dealt with is "harder to empathize" and "harder to cry"
i’ve been taking various ssris for the better part of 5 years and even if they don’t end up working with me for a long time, i would ten thousand percent rather take my antidepressants than be able to come. the fact that i am able to do day-to-day activities without hiding in my room and laying in my bed all day is a real blessing and i’m extremely lucky to be on them.
A Dr. wanted me to try an antidepressant, (can't remember which one it was) but I took one. My husband and I went out to eat, I remember I couldn't sit still, my appetite wasn't there, I was figedy, my pupils were the size of my eyes. It took 24 hour's to get out of me. I finally returned to me after 24 hour's. I threw the rest away and have never taken any again. Dr. said it was a very low dose too but dang! Noooo! God bless you and everyone with eye's to see and ears to hear!! 🙏🙏💞
All these symptoms are for those who arent diagnosed with depression and are still taking anti-depressants. For people who are diagnosed with depression, life only gets better with anti-depressant.
I was diagnosed with depression, social anxiety and panic attacks and anti-depressants have worked wonders for me. Whats even better is that I had high blood pressure which didnt respond to BP medication but since taking anti-depressants my BP is perfectly normal.
Pravin Patil I agree, BUT I felt all of the effects shown in the video on them and it turns out I have Bi polar depression. So I guess SSRI’s are not right for people like me.
@@MrDylpickle27 Yes, you will need medication which is tuned to your particular symptoms.
When can I get that decrease in empathy? I've been taking it and I still am overly emotional
Don't forget to think about how these medications affect people differently!! SSRIs are helpful to a lot of people, there's nothing wrong with taking medication.
I believe it's crucial to find the proper dosage for the individual, that is if they actually need an SSRI. I found that I was able to be more myself (and less influenced by my anxiety and depression) when I experimented with my dosage to see what I needed! I do not regret starting this medication three years ago. Some people might be able to live without it, but it is okay to depend on medicine to improve your health.
My mom was a very empathetic person went from having a world full of feelings to being a unemotionally attached person who hates a lot of people for what they did to her I don’t blame her for that though they are truly evil people but I feel like I lost my mom when she went on the medicine ever since she has not been the same I don’t think she will come back to life she is getting older now 2 years from sixty and her mind is far gone it’s like someone you once knew and loved died and you couldn’t be there for the funeral because they are still alive but it really isn’t them
depressed ppl tend to be very sensitive and sometimes very caring, they take anger out on themselves rather then others
little less empathy might be a good thing
Oh my goodness, I haven’t even watched the video yet, but I realized that a while ago. I’ve been taking antidepressants for a long time now and I noticed that when I stop even for a day, I feel more emotional with a song or movie. But when I’m on them, even crying at someone’s funeral proves hard to accomplish! I need to watch this video!
I once had an intense panic after smoking pot. After that, I was worried about it happening again every time I smoked which led to more panic attacks, and eventually quitting. Come to find out, lots of people who smoke pot have panic attacks, and yet it never gets talked about. I thought my heart was going to stop beating, and I couldn’t tell if I was breathing too hard, or too little, but listening to music and completely surrendering to it got me out of it, especially something slow like Nora Jones.
I take Paxil, have since I was 14 and now I'm 30. It's well controlled and I see my doctor regularly. Over the years I've had to lower or increase the dose with the way that life goes. But in all this time I've never felt it make me numb to any type of emotion. I love, I laugh, I cry, I have (good) sex. I use it as a tool to help me get past my natural anxiety about life in general, and it works. I don't depend on it. I feel like even a professional shouldn't make blanket statements about how enough "sunshine" can replace some peoples emotional deficiency. Just seems silly to think that some people out there may actually benefit from use. While of course taking it because your friends are taking it sounds idiotic.
luis g She didnt make that statement, she said one should try all those things before going on antideppressants.
Ron Beelen
Step 1: Calm your tits.
Step 2: Go back and edit your paragraph. Good God was that grammatically atrocious.
i take antidepressant, two actually, it's pure drugs, can't get away from them :(
Actually, doctors who prescribe antidepressants do so because they feel it's the only tool they have that might help. Doctor's don't get paid more for prescribing an antidepressant vs. therapy vs. suggesting lifestyle modifications. The only difference is that pills are the easiest and most affordable option. Therapy is often too expensive and talking about lifestyle changes takes a lot of time and is often difficult for the patient. Doctors, especially primary care doctors, deeply care about the wellbeing of their patients and are just doing the best they can while working within a broken system.
Paxil causes birth defects you should know this
I’m so scared my step dad is on this for 18 years now. And I rarely see him cry. He’s so weird, narcissistic, strange in social scenarios and acts like a child about certain stuff. He’s also slow and unrealistic. His mom died but I feel like he doesn’t feel anything. That’s not the only example. Please take note to the early users of such drugs. It’s so fucked up what it can cause.
My Mom is the same way. These pills damage the brain over time. My mothers memory is bad she cant walk hardly because of all the ssris shes on her inability to comprehend as if shes a child.
If word gets out, the whole antidepressant industry goes down overnight
They can also give you parkinsonism, complete sexual dysfunction, and irreversible nervous system damage for life. I learned the hard way.
Did you heal in anyway ?
The side effects that she mentioned sound a lot like my life before I took antidepressants. I was a zombie. I moved slowly, thought slowly, and I barely felt or registered even the passing of time. When I did feel something, it was an intense longing for death. I could hardly get out of bed and make it to work not just due to lack of energy, but also due to the fear that I would walk into traffic. The antidepressants slowly, over a few years and with a doctor's supervision, gave me back my emotions, my passions, and at least a piece of my life. In my experience, it is depression that blunts emotion and empathy and the like, not the treatment.
I have found that alcohol, exercise, good friends, pets, good books and diet all work together in moderation. You should also look at your life and deem what may be causing pain and ask yourself is it temporary or permanent. If it's permanent than leave it ( person, situation) behind.
I am more compassionate with my medication. It's the disorder that should focused on. In my case generalised anxiety disorder.
I cried for the first time yesterday because I had been ON antidepressants. I feel something now instead of nothing.
SSRI’s have always worked for me in the depression department. The only downfall is withdrawing if I have too.🤨
So it's all just women now?
"antidepresents make it harder to be human" is how i read the title.
Amen!
***** Mr.Pear, i think you already have.....
More like 'woman'
Radioactive Snake I seriously see this as all positive arguments for taking antidepressants, and I don't need any.
***** Thanks!
When I was on multiple anti depressants I definitely felt numb. And I can say personally I would rather feel down or feel any emotion rather than not feel human at all. I am happy for those who it worked for but for me, it changed myself completely. I was an emotionless numb asshole. So I threw them away and turned to spirituality, working out, volunteering, eating healthy it helped me greatly. Now I wouldn’t say I’m “cured” necessarily but it did help.
Completely agree
I LOVE not feeling like myself. I am more confident and less emotional. When I started taking Zoloft I thought "Wow, so this is what normal feels like." Sometimes you just need it. I hate the weight gain though.
Have you experienced a change in ur eating habits? Hungrier now? What caused this weight gain
@@zJooeee I am actually eating healthier now because Zoloft metabolizes carbs different, hence the weight gain. I try to eat less carbs.
I thought depression itself most of the time you feel no emotion feel empty, passionless.. medication should actually help it if you truly are depressed..
Exactly. Not everyone but I think it's like cholesterol where people just don't put the effort in improving their lives but want to feel better most of the time. But it may take a drug to help them into better habits I guess.. Who knows lol
just got diagnosed with major depression after unctrollable break downs and it's the opposite of what you think. I feel too much that i became physically painful and my mind bloks out from the whole world. i also just took anti depressants which is preventing me from crying or getting angry. not sure if I like it but at the moment, i need to focus in my life without breaking down irrationally
ZePandarr sorry to hear you're going through all that. I am glad that you're diagnosed and seeking treatment. That's often the hardest part. Give it time, you won't feel better all of a sudden, your brain's got some re-wiring to do. Stay mindful, take in lots of walks and music :)
ZePandarr aww you need a hug too and have you read some self help book they helped me up to 30% when it comes to optimise my life more out .. and stay away from caffeine and process food
mojo333 y fully agree. I can't stand self help books now, but that's probably because i read them exclusively for so many years. Zig Ziglar's been ripped off far too often for my liking lol
Prozac has changed my life for the better.
It can and will but they aren’t the answer
Ahahaha
Fuck Prozac dude
Search "PSSD" on Google !!
I also have to say that I was wayyyy more of a risk taker on SSRI’s I never thought of what could go wrong and it got me into a lot of trouble. It’s hard without my medicine to be happy and to go on with my day sometimes but i actually think through things now and I actually have emotions now.
Like what kinds of risks?
Your dose was too high then. You should still be able to feel, just not be overwhelmed.
@@Lulu-kt6gr I feel invisible
Yes. Thank you for this video. I was on Wellbutrin at one point, but the one that really caused me issues was Sertraline. Anorgasmia, ED, decreased libido, and I have honestly never been the same. I took it when I was 19 for about a year and a half, and I feel like it truly ruined parts of me I worry will never come back. Sadly. At my request, my PCP told me to stop taking the medication COLD TURKEY. She said there was not need to taper off slowly, so within 24 hours of being off, I was basically suicidal, and at the mental health centers doorstep (literally) begging and crying for help. Absolutely miserable. It has been 5 years, and I wish I had never taken Sertraline (Zoloft).
Thanks for sharing your story & I genuinely hope you're doing better now in as many ways as possible. While this video is indeed helpful, it was *very* clearly created for women & with women in mind. I'm sure after the fact, they removed all of that specification from the thumbnail, the title & the description. They affect men & women similarly...but the value & cost of those things on a cultural, societal etc level (I'm particuarly thinking & talking about sexual side effects here) is so vastly different between men & women. I honestly, to the bottom of my heart, empathize with & understand that women having sexual side effects such as an inability to orgasm is a terrible cost. And at the same time, I can *assure* anyone reading this that that cost is nowhere near the cost it is to a man. It's the single reason I won't touch anything like an SSRI. Men have to perform, women do not and it is as simple as that. Everyone wants these things...but only one gender will hate themselves if they can't achieve it.
Definitely relate to this... I was on the subway the other day and the woman beside me was holding her head down, crying. I felt nothing, did nothing. Looking back, had I been off the meds, I probably would've asked what I could do to help.
That would be a normal response. Wanting to help someone in distress is a normal thing.
Ironically, your response sounds a lot like depression. Maybe the meds aren't working for you?
These antidepressants don't really make you happy. I'd say they make you numb. And while majorly depressed and struggling with mental illness, that is a good thing.
But generally, I'd say that if you're just feeling low or have emotions caused naturally from an experience, I'd try to stay away from antidepressants.
These meds also come with loads of side-effects.
LadyDoloris yes and extreme suicidal ideation being one of them! It's ridiculous!
Sort of like being drunk?
I've been trying to beat anger depression and anger for 20 years and finally had enough. Started buproprion 3 months ago, now adding lexapro to help with the anxiety aspects
Didn't do meds tried to find root causes for 20 years
This video is dangerous! Lady I would be dead if it wasn’t for antidepressants.
Not all antidepressants work the same. She is specifically talking about ssris which do reduce emotions in some. All antidepressants are semi effective for depression, but for a lot of people they do not work.
Someone missed the point.
Not actually paying attention is what's actually dangerous
definetely noticed that i cant cry/climax but in the overall scheme of things its worth it
Echo1234 my advice would be to change your pills, I had the same problem with one ad, then moved to another, and yay - no more side effects