The Dark Side of SSRIs
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I don't know if there's another way for you to censor certain words, but the "turn off audio" method quite severely ruins the flow of the video.
Besides that, great video, quite informative!
this was one of the worst video to sponsorship transitions ive ever seen lmao
it's insane how you censor words out of this video.
The real dark side of ssris is cranking your hog for an hour.
HA!
The real self harm
Or the opposite, getting your libido tanked
Sometimes ya just fall asleep from exhaustion and wake up confused and even more depressed.
Fr, I don’t even bother anymore and I think that’s the saddest part 😢
I've started taking SSRIs a month ago, and I will say I feel like something is different. My anxiety certainly isn't as bad, which is nice, but the depression is still there. Overall, it is better than nothing. Having less anxiety certainly makes life a lot less difficult.
yes definitely better than nothing
A month is too soon to see most of the changes, and the side effects are more extreme in the first month too. I'd say waiting 2-3 months before you know for sure whether it's been good or not. I felt good results immediately on duloxetine but had horrible side effects for the first two months. After that I've been fine.
I'm taking my SSRI medication for ~3 months and feel the same way. Anxiety is visibly decreased (and I've really felt that when I forgot to take the medication one day) but depression is still there, maybe a bit dampened. Can still feel happiness for things that I like. And only slight libido decrease (mostly when taking medication irregularly)
Funny, when I was on SSRIs my mood was greatly improved but anxiety was unchanged. Everyone responds differently.
That sucks for me because my anti depressant did not do shit for me so I quit taking them.
Had I not been prescribed an SSRI, I 100% would not be here.
I'm glad you're still here
Can you please explain briefly?
@@subbannar7319I assume they had severe depression & anxiety.
I spent 15 day in a coma last yr after taking 200 codeine tablets. It hit me very fast and the next thing I remember was waking up with delirium not recognising my mom and sister. It took a month for me to learn to walk again. I wanted to die because the pain was relentless and I was exhausted. I had nobody to talk to and my Doctor was not helping me at all. I was afraid of everything and I was in agony from the severe anxiety. People never talk about how painful severe anxiety actually is not to mention the feeling of the depression where your brain is going haywire.
Maybe it works for some people. There's no one single solution for everybody.
I've been on an SSRI since 2019, and it does personally help me. Before, I rarely, if ever, felt real happiness and would be completely debilitated by negative emotions. Now, my problems are still there, but it's easier to deal with. My depression is situational now rather than all-encompassing. I'd consider myself a happier person than I was before. Then again, I've never known life without depression, even as a young child, so I don't really have anything to compare it to. I just know it's better than it used to be!
I have to agree with you, it's the same for me. I've been on them since 2018 and they really helped me feel more stable and able to tackle the rest of the problems in therapy
me too. ssri for 2 years. its cool to be more level, no more huge, instant mood swings. stress/anxiety baseline much lower...my diagnosis was ptsd, chronic anxiety, and depression. ssri and regular counselling sessions.
I've been great since going on them. But don't forget a dose, the withdrawals are disorienting
I'm curious do you really feel more happy? Or do you just feel more numb to emotions overall?
@@sealishshorts I really don't think I feel numb, if anything less so, since the negative stuff was so overwhelming beforehand that I spent most of the time derealizing/disassociating. So yeah! I also don't really have much of a baseline, though, so it may be less compared to the average person but it's good nuff for me to be able to get through stuff!
SSRI's must be prescribed carefully! For me, they have let me be stable enough to engage in therapy and lessen suicidal ideation, literally a lifesaver. But I also have a friend whose mental health was permanently worsened from trying an SSRI. This is a fascinating area of research going forward, and I hope we get better treatments for EVERYONE with depression and mental illness.
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That's what happened to me. It put me down a bad path and ruined my life.
@@rodneyjones1990 go to hell
@@joshuaortiz2031 Sorry to hear that my dude. I hope there as been some relief as time has gone on
that's the thing, they're supposed to be a stable platform to help you get through therapy
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Yes, dr.sporessss I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac.
He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is. dr.sporessss
SSRIs saved my life twice. Lexapro has been going great for me. I feel so sorry for those who have had bad experiences.
Taking your own life is a choice. SSRIs didn’t do that, you did
@@KookoCraft I hope you rediscover your humanity one day.
@@acooper7675 They have humanity. KookoCraft just said that the person didn't rely on a drug to fight their problems. The person themselves fought their problems, and won against them, the SSRI was just a helpful factor. It wasn't the primary reason why they got better. The person themselves is the reason why they are doing better. Not the pill.
Lexapro /escitalopram gang lets go
I too have been tremendously helped by venlafaxine, a SNRI. I had dealt with the most bizarre somatic symptoms for most of my life as well as panic attacks. I dropped out of college because, for some reason, fluorescent lighting exacerbated them to the point I could not even function. I was not actually put on the SNRI for the panic attacks, but to help control my migraines. It stopped them completely, and as a bonus, I wasn't affected by the fluorescent lights or panic attacks any more. After a few years I weaned myself off the venlafaxine, but the migraines and the physiological effects I had dealt with years earlier all came right back. I am back on it and I feel perfectly normal. I really do feel bad for people who had bad experiences with them, but everyone is different. For example, I react terribly to cannabis. It makes me incredibly sick, but I do not judge those who it helps... unlike some people who comment on these posts.
A fucked up childhood and years of SSRI use rendered me impotent at 19. It is so embarrassing and humiliating to tell every potential sex partners that you're pretty much non functional and can't make them happy. It doesn't even lower your sex drive, just makes you impotent. So it's like having an itch on your back but your arms are paralyzed.
Same exact thing that happened to me, ALL of my sexual relationships in highschool and early college days were obliterated thanks to those garbage fucking things.
@@kevinsouza7744 But here's the thing. They probably saved my life. But it came at a heavy cost
Are you okay now
I was impotent at 19 bc I was nervous af, are you sure it wasn’t bc of that? Wasn’t till I was 23 till I could slang that d to anybody
You got no head game 😂 can't even try oral sex 😂 it's beneath you
I’ve been taking SSRIs for 8-9 years (Prozac until about a year ago, Zoloft since then), and while they have always done the job, I could always tell that something wasn’t quite right. I don’t have that extreme numbing because I can still feel pretty happy and sad at times, but I never felt like the actual problem was being attacked by the meds… I really hope this new research finds some real solutions, because depression has been ruining my life for far too long now :( If science can make me go back to when life was happy, I would do/give anything to get it!
The meds cannot cure mental illness. Atleast not in cases with long-standing issues. They can enable the patients to start psychotherapy and give them the energy to tackle their issues, but won't magically solve them. I would recommend to work with a therapist in order to find out what exactly is causing your pain/issues nowadays. From a CBT standpoint, there's usually a subconscious assumption about life, yourself or other people that manifests emotionally or in your behaviour. I.e. for me it was the question of "Am I worthy of other people's affection?"which manifested as severe social anxiety, which in turn lead to depression, since it caused a lot of inhibition.
Took me a whopping 14 years to find out (28 yo now; I've only been doing interpersonal therapy besides pharmacotherapy for the last 3.5 years though) and I'm doing much better now. Practicing mindfullness, sports, and/or meditation may also help, especially for people who feel like they're running on "autopilot" a lot. Being numb to one's own feelings is aquired behaviour and can be unlearned step by step. Not making one's worthiness as a person depend on external factors is something that can be learned aswell.
Other than that, I can recommend checking out the philosophy of stoicism (or other kinds of philosophy that may seem helpful to you, personally; this can help a lot when dealing with meaninglessness). A common pattern in patients with depression and anxiety is trying to take control of situations one can't fully influence and then, automatically and unquestioned, taking responsibility for a bad outcome, while at the same time attributing good outcomes to external factors like luck. Seneca's aphorisms and Marc Aurel's teachings have helped me a lot with that. You gotta be willing to dig and process experiences and emotions that you may have pushed aside for a long while, even if it seems hard.
@@Psychx_ you are completely right.
@@Psychx_ It addresses the emotional aspect, except it does not address the underlying environmental or physical causes. SSRIs treat the symptoms not the causes.
As we know….every drug has downsides and bad side effects. Even aspirin.
Work through it, push on for a future where you feel comfortable and content. Don't focus on happiness, that's a fleeting emotion that comes during specific times, don't expect to feel happy all the time. Part of depression is lofty expectations, you're only human so take a deep breath and relax a bit.
SSRIs and SNRIs have saved my life, but I have extreme depression and anxiety. I still feel that enough research has not been done on people like me. Something worked. I am alive today and can thank almost 30 years of medication.
Boohoo. You’re fine. Stop being a coward
Same here
Major depressive disorder is a fairly common diagnosis, along with anxiety. SNRIs are considered more effective since norepinephrine is involved
Same. 7-8 years here, all is not perfect but I'm able to handle life and really thrive, not just endure existence. But it feels more like "I won the lottery" rather than "medicine actually knew what to do with my problem".
Same!
Psychedelics like psilocybin mushrooms have shown a lot of promise in helping people with mental health issues.
Absolutely! It's incredible to see how psilocybin mushrooms and psychedelics have the potential to make a positive impact on mental health. They've shown promising results in treating depression and anxiety. It's exciting to think about the possibilities they hold for helping people.
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I recently got prescribed an SSRI for my panic disorder after I having the worst panic attack I’ve ever had at work that put me out of work for a week. I will say, I’ve become a completely different person. I actually enjoy going out to little minuscule things such as shopping for groceries and going to get gas. (Yes I literally would panic over little things like that.) I don’t hide anymore and even friends and family have commented on how much happier I am now. Although I’m not 100% better obviously, just being able to leave the house without being deathly terrified of pretty much any and everything, is worth it.
Same, I got prescribed for anxiety and I feel like it’s helped tbh but now I’m scared!!
I was prescribed an SSRI and honestly i can't say i relate to any of this. Being on an SSRI has allowed me to feel both happy and sad without spiralling downward into depression, before i was on the SSRI i could barely even register emotion. Thankful that it also hasn't affected my sex life! Of course, i can only speak for myself but I'm very grateful for the drug.
Same here. Been on SSRI for about 4 years now and they changed my life. I still feel more anxious than “normal” people, but anxiety no longer takes over and completely incapacitates me. It’s still there, but it’s much more manageable than before I started on medication.
Exact same for me
Caused anger, agitation, emotional blunting and then eventually hypomania at age 42. 5 months to return to normal after stopping them.
@@dogchow5602I had problems with ssris but then I went on pristiq and it was life changing for both severe anxiety and moderate depression that I was suffering from
I agree, sertraline/zoloft saved my life.
An SSRI saved my life. I dont think everyone should take them though. Lots of people on them for mild depression and anxiety. I feel you should only take them once mental illness becomes debilitating and prevents you from living normally. I had mild mental illness before it got really bad. I wish i had gone to therapy sooner to maybe prevent me from needing meds. I truly am glad they exist though. I really wouldn't be here without them
i have mixed feelings about therapy. i think its super important to learn to set and respect boundaries, healthy communication, analysing your behaviour and why you do what you do, how to learn to regulate and estimate how tense you are before you completely lose it etc. But for me personally, I just feel like my mental illnesses are so deeply rooted in my core that no philosophies (buddhism, stoicism) or therapeutic methods like breathing exercises or skills to regulate the tension truly helped. They sometimes help in the moment but the problem doesnt go away. I feel like for some people their illness is just permanent. Ive reached a point in my therapy in February where I finally realized I often have been hearing what I already know damn well. I walked out and was hit with dread: is this it? Is there literally nothing else you can do?. Sometimes when you are struggling mentally you know the solutions to your problems and you might even do them but you still FEEL horrible. You still suffer. Maybe sometimes this is just our fate to be ill. Maybe thats also your case, so dont blame yourself too much because maybe you would have still spiraled and still needed meds - sooner or later.
Short term solution, but never good for the long term.
I have severe OCD and have for 35 years. I just started taking lexapro 2 years ago and it has made my life so much better.
@@carrie9258 hey same! OCD wrecked my life with no warning and I thought I was losing it. Very thankful to lexapro for making OCD a little calmer. I suffered for awhile without seeking help because I was afraid id get locked up because of the thoughts
I think ssris are great for people you need them but I don't think they should be the first point of call because of how they react with people with bipolar is very dangerous, its send into a manic and hospitalized, and taking ssri and being hospitalized is the most common way to be diagnosed with bipolar
I was diagnosed with depression, GAD and panic attacks after I was sent to a mental facility at 14 over a s**cide attempt. They prescribed me SSRIs, and the months that followed were absolute hell. I came to find out a year later what was actually causing my depressive symptoms was undiagnosed borderline. I was put on cocktail of SSRIs and sedatives at that young age, and experienced severe manic and depressive episodes, random dissociative breaks from reality, and exhibited worse self harm behavoirs. After I threw up and passed out during a severe panic attack at 16, my mom decided to take me off the cocktail of meds that were clearly making things worse. Best decision ever - at 17, I experimented with psychedlics, and cried tears of joy for hours during my trip in my sister's arms because all the intrusive negative thoughts that plagued me were gone. They've never been that severe since, and once I was an adult I was able to seek a more suiting, holistic treatment that I believe has saved my life. I've never thought of ending my life or hurting myself since, but moral of the story is it's fucking terrifying how quick doctors are to put kids on SSRIs and SSNIs. It's almost like they're used as this giant flimsy bandage doctors are quick to slap onto a patient's mental health issues without further investigating their symptoms. Bandaids dont fix bullet holes; these medications don't magically make things better for most people. We need a MUCH better system for people struggling with mental health conditions.
If you mean bpd or eupd they're outdated and lazy diagnoses when professionals either can't be bothered to help you or can't admit they don't know how. In girl interrupted, she got it spot on - borderline between what? They don't know, a d it's literally used as a way to blacklist patients and refuse treatment
there are ongoing studies over the use of psychedelics in the treatment of mental illnesses! please make sure to use them in a safe manner that preferably includes a medical professional. As of now, I only know of these facilities being available in cities like Los Angeles and Austin, usually using ketamine. If you are self-prescribing, please be careful as a bad trip can be absolutely terrifying! stay safe, and best of luck on your journey
@@t.skittyketamine isn't a psychedelic (but I am aware of its value in putting patients in a hypnotic state conducive to therapy). MDA, MDMA, psilocybin, and mescaline and other psychedelics are used in actual psychedelic therapy although the strict patient criteria and costs make it non-existent for the majority of working class people as it isn't covered by insurance as well as its legality varies from State to State in the US.
@@norml.hugh-mann pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9250944/
it is used in psychedelic therapy for its hallucinogenic effects. it is one of the most common drugs used right now for these treatments
Nice BS story. You can't pass out from a panic attack and puking from a panic attack is exceedingly rare. Borderline doesn't cause manic episodes, that is bipolar. Weirdo.
Im 34 now and was diagnosed with severe panic disorder and depression at 17. Within month of taking SSRI all my panic attacks vanished and I was able to continue my life as any other happy teenager
Wow. That’s exactly what happened for me too, like that’s the same exact story I give people. I was 17, got the same exact diagnosis, prescribed Zoloft, and within a month I never had a panic attack again. Really helped me enjoy the last year in hs, whereas, I was not before.
Medication doesn't necessairly solve the problems which caused depression
Yup
Yeah, I was perscribed SSRIs in high school. I remember asking for higher and higher does bc they didnt feel like they helped at all. In hindsight the problems causing me to feel terrible was me being unable to keep up with all the school work due to my as of then undiagnosed adhd, and my horrible social anxiety. I was perscribed them 9 years ago now, I'm still on them but I've been considering talking to my doctor about weaning off them for a while due to how drowsy/forgetful they make me among other things...
True, but for me the depression and anxiety also prevented me from getting help, taking risks, and getting out of the house for the therapy and other things I needed. Depression has a bad habit of making everything feel impossible and pointless. Which can be counter productive when getting ones' living situation to a better, less toxic, or more stable environment and actually getting treatment.
Only so much a pill can do. You definitely need to make an effort to avoid situations and people that bring you down and surround yourself with people who lift you up. Also, take care of your physical health!
Sometimes they do
As a medical researcher i would like to amend that the suicidal tendencies in the first two month of severe depressed people come from the uptake of serotonin by the auto-receptors, which leads to increased energy, which is then used by the still severely depressed person to follow up on their suicidal thoughts
When I first heard this I thought it was anecdotal, but I really believe this is true.
@@darkscienceyt Similar to the seasonal change in suicide rate. People tend to assume its highest in winter months, but actually they peak in spring: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Center for Health Statistics report that suicide rates in the United States are lowest during the winter months and highest in the spring and summer. Stephen Bridges asserts that there is "a high incidence in early spring (April and May) and also a low incidence in winter" of suicide rates.
Winter makes people more depressed, but then spring comes along and gives them energy. In the severely depressed person, instead of using this energy to overcome depression, it ends up amplifying the negative thoughts and leading to taking action.
Interestingly, one of the only drugs clinically proven to reduce suicidality is lithium. It's also severely under prescribed, opposite to ssris.
@@aspiringdev-iw1yv - Or it could just be finals.
That's only one possible reason why. S u i c i d e can also be due to dysregulation caused by the medication or paradoxical reactions. Not every person with depression has serotonin issue. Depression could be due to a different neurotransmitter issue or a neurosteroid issue, or a hormonal issue which can include thyroid problems, or a different health issue such as a brain tumor or a nutritional issue such as too much copper and too little zinc, in which case SSRI will not be the solution and can make the person feel worse.
I felt so awful on any SSRIs. Either felt worse or like a shell of a person. I tried lamotrigine too for my eating disorder but it gave me awful nightmares. I've been off meds for about a year and a half now, making small changes in my daily routine, going to family therapy and gym and finally starting to feel like myself again mentally and physically. I attempted 3 times in my life and i'm so blessed to still be here. My heart is breaking for people who had their lives taken by depression and anxiety. It's a uphill battle.
its your fault for trying to use drugs to fix your problems instead of facing life head on
The gun is easier
Shame on you two
@@Im2tiredforthis fr internet anonymity turns some people into assholes.
Good job!!! Depression sucks and everyone has such a unique path to recovery.
I can only speak for myself. I've been on SSRIs for a year. Combined with therapy this has been revolutionarily life-changing for me. My life feels worth living now. I don't lose myself in a storm of intense hopelessness any more. I can't imagine going back to being unmedicated. This saved my life.
Any other side effects? Lethargy, weight gain, low mood, insomnia, digestion
My profession is highly active and requires high performance. I am naturally an active person, and as a retired athlete, I am still (trying to be ) active regardless of trauma, and possible prescription side effects.
My concern is what if I have the side effects stated above. The less energy the less drive I will have to be active. The less drive I have, the more I will "get depress/anxious", the more depress I get...
Did you have/worried about these side effects?
@@itshazelhoffI study psychology and pharmacology. It appears certain drugs have a higher risk of causing these side effects than others (ex. sedation and weight gain are strongly associated with paroxetine, and GI distress with sertraline and fluvoxamine).
Generally speaking, people have the fewest side effects on the drug escitalopram (Lexapro/Cipralex). While it is impossible to tell how a drug will affect you before you take it, I hope this information is useful. Good luck!
SSRI;s disconnect the lower emotional brain from the upper imaginary brain leaving you unable to FEEL anything , except imagianry not real feelings
your mind will say hey I'm imagining I'm ok
Your body will be screaming the exact opposite HELP!
@@gratefulkmthat’s just not true whatsoever
@@MrSparkles1324 There are two drugs that change how you FEEL , in regards to changing the activity in the part of the brain that controls how you feel,.
Its call the Amygdala and has a position of authority over the imagination brain the cortices
You are not a floating thought process, imagining feelings, disconnected from biology , your imagination state exists with the Emotion of the biology , because biology FEELS before you imagine sound then patterns them words
So we can take people on SSRi and administer drugs to them that change how they physically FEEL provable via measurement , and then ask them if they notice any changes to themselves , and they dont
Where people not on SSRI, FEEL a difference immediately
This is because you have 3 sets of brains and you should exist in all 3 sets, in balance all living things do
But you can get trapped in any one of them , especially going around the twist in that noisy old LEFT PFC
To have dissociated with the Amygdala and Thalamus and over associated with the LEFT PFC is no way for anyone to live
I mean that would be "letting the tail wag the dog"
QED
I'm aware this video almost definitely isn't the time to go on about this subject, but here it goes. I'm know I'm not alone when I say I hate CZcams's censoring of 'bad' words, but now it's getting silly. Now it's no longer swear words, but certain non-swear words: suicidal, sex/sexual, shooting, etc. They say it's to protect children/the vulnerable, but why the fuck would they be watching a video on the dangers of SSRIs? Is it so wrong to want a platform in which adults can view and discuss real world issues and not worry about what language we use, especially when it isn't even swears?
it's never about protecting the children, it's about appeasing the advertisers so they can still pay good money. kids are not entirely stupid, they can go to porn sites or incel forums without issues.
Thank you buddy. This kind of censorship is bullshit.
Fucking right.
Thank you
i think the same as you do. whats more ridiculous about this argument of ''protecting the vulnerable and children' - ok so censoring the word by one symbol (for example r@pe or seggs or su#cide) protects them but the following talk about the said topics does too? xD just because the word in itself is censored doesnt mean the person doesnt immediately what word is meant. Anyway. I have experienced suicidal thoughts many times, even attempted once. The word or content about suicide do not stress me out. I consider myself to have been raped in the past by my ex. Seeing the word doesnt trigger me. Sure, when I was freshly traumatized I would very frequently get very emotional, angry and distressed when certain content popped up - but in my case it was drugs, addiction and weed because it was a huge issue in the ex relationship that led to so many tragedies. But I ensure that censoring drugs to dr#gs would have helped nothing. I still viewed content regarding these topics, read the comments even written my own warning comments, joined fb groups in this topic. I couldnt think of anything else, I was angry, I was hurt. I needed to obsess about it for some time to let all of it out and to seek closure. But it was my choice and my responsibility. I dont believe anyone who experienced something traumatic, even if it was devastating, just casually loses their shit if they see the triggering word somewhere. Its actually way harder to talk about your own experience than to just see someones content with someones experience.
I think really the biggest problem here is that one cannot categorize all depression as having the same cause or same treatment. As someone with severe MDD I do find that I think about suicide *a lot less* when I'm on a good medication that works for me. There are so many different meds out there too that one can't just try 1 of them and then discount all SSRIs. I think doctors are also too eager to simplify the symptoms into a single condition (or even 2 or 3). The general population is severely uninformed about clinical depression vs natural reactions to bad stuff happening in your life, and about meds. I am afraid of the implications of people overreacting to the umbrella study, if I'm perfectly honest. But I do think science is lacking in understanding depressive symptoms and causes.
yes this ... depression and anxiety are common in people with conditions like ADHD for instance ... but that has a very different treatment to what SSRIs treat. Stimulants actually remove depression and anxiety for ADHD people, SSRIs do nothing (usually)
most GPs do not have the skill to identify the root cause of depression and prescribe appropriately so they just hand out SSRIs like candy. Depressed? here have a prozac ...
The main problem is not even the SSRI’s. The root problem is the belief in the biggest lie psychiatry tells us to profit out of the meds. That lie is that depression is a chronic disease like cancer. They tell us this because if we say that mental illness can be cured, then big pharma will stop making profit.
This is the issue. Ssris didn't work for me. Just gave me sexual disfunction and terrible withdrawals. The issue was I was honest with my doctors about my depression. I told them it was because my life wasn't going well and I'm upset with my body due to medical issues. All they wanted to do was shove another ssri at me. They didn't even try an snri or something else.
Im a woman and had to convince them the sexual disfunction was unacceptable. Nobody warned me that more than half of people have issues with it. Prozac was the worst. I still had high libido but complete inability to climax. Its not erectile disfunction so they dont ask about it and dont really count it as a symptom because it doesn't lose function the way a penis does. A guy with ED can't engage in penetration. A woman can and many dont orgasm every time if they do at all, so doctors dont care. They are all about statistics, not individuals. Since women make less of a stink about it and aren't expected to orgasm during sex, the perception of "average" is skewed. Ive dealt with a lot of medical sexism but listing ED without an equivalent symptom for women is near the most blatant.
That’s a very big simplification. I have ADHD, depression and anxiety, I’m being medicated for all three. If people are « misdiagnosed » with d’expression instead of ADHD, it’s not the worst idea in the world to recommend antidepressants. A lot of people with ADHD have depression and/or anxiety that is not helped by stimulants. They can worsen intrusive thoughts and anxiety. It doesn’t matter is someone has ADHD or not, if their mood and anxiety as do out of control, they will need more than just stimulants.
Yep. Took me many years to land on Effexor and that seems to do the trick. A lot of my MDD has been helped by mood stabilizers and personal growth. It seems that a change in philosophy has helped the most.
I’ve been on SSRIs for about 3 years now for mild depression. This was very eye opening for me. Thank you for making this video.
SSRIs destroyed me. the person who was prescribing me didn’t know what they were doing. i took many different SSRI’s over time and it made me worse, my doctor didn’t know how to prescribe meds. I finally went to a real psychiatrist and they prescribed me Wellbutrin, I haven’t been anymore happier and my mental disorders are so much easier to control now
Our 19yo son died by suicide while beginning an SSRI. We all felt hopeless.Thank you so much. This gives us some hope for others suffering.
So sorry to hear that...
SsRis shouldn't just be prescribed like candy. SsRis did nothing for me it made me feel like a zombie. So sorry for your loss.
This society become Godless and the ones who feel it is suppresed by antidepressants
That’s horrible. I’m sorry for your loss. I’m not gonna lie, when I was on them, I was HIGHLY suicidal. Basically, a dead man is tying this. I don’t know how I made it but I did and I got off that trash
I want to get to know you guys. Suicide is a touching topic.
Been taking SSRIs for 20 years for MDD. Greatly helped, never dulled my emotions, never caused any sexual problems.
4 years here. It caused anorgasmia, but I can WORK and STUDY and have RELATIONSHIPS.
Saying SSRIs are bad is essentially ignoring these good effects.
You're more an exception than norm
I’ve been on lexapro for a while and my anxiety and depression went aways. I also noticed stronger erections the lexapro benefited me.
I've been on Sertraline for 15 years now, never had any side effects. I don't feel impaired by it in any way (which couldn't be said for the couple of other SSRIs and MAOIs I had been prescribed before).
@@KhalerJex indeed, they have helped me a lot as well
I had a very bad reaction to Zoloft. It made me sleep for 16 hours, eat everything in my house within 3 days and had me hallucinating every time I closed my eyes. This was followed by an urge to hurt people... like a LOT of people. All I could think of was burning human bodies when I was awake. SSRIs are way more dangerous for some people than doctors realize and I wish they'd be handled with more care. I stopped taking it after the 3rd day, but the experience made my anxiety and PTSD way worse. I'm taking buspar now and so far so good. I'm hoping to get back on ADHD medication soon as well, but the battle to receive quality psychiatric care is never ending.
Don’t bother with psychiatric ‘care.’ Psychs are pseudoscientists and will ruin your life with the cocktails they give people, who often times have nothing wrong with them in the first place. I was put first on Citalopram (which is technically illegal to prescribe to minors) at 9, for mild ‘anxiety.’ SSRIs would later make me extremely suicidal, and I eventually developed a life-ruining disorder called PSSD from them. These drugs have ruined the lives of many people, and yet their stories typically remain unheard.
That's how Prozac was for me, I'm on a different kind of them rn I forgot the name.
Thank you notice been seeing things also 😮
Whoever prescribed you ssri's for ptsd should be stuck off the medical register, ptsd requires trauma experts and specialised therapies
@@paula622 they usually prescribe various SSRIs and antipsychotics for ‘treating’ PTSD. Obviously it is unethical as fuck, but that’s what they do (because they make a lot of money doing it that way).
If you didn’t know already, psychiatrists are just idiot social scientists who happen to have MDs and are purely salesmen for pharma companies.
Wow this video was super helpful. Ive been on SSRIs since 2018 for major depressive disorder. Ive learned more from this then any Drs or nurses that ive talked to.
SSRI's can be effective for some people, but they've been grossly overprescribed. Depression is a biochemical phenomenon, but it's far more complex than just a single variable, that being serotonin levels. I will say that prozac was awful for me though because it basically just made me emotionless, my family genuinely thought I might've been a sociopath at the time. I'm currently on desvenlafaxine and bupropion and I'm not sure if it even makes a significant difference.
It's not a biochemical phenomenon, the video shows that the evidence is pointing to that. We know so little about the brain, the mind and the metaphysical bizareness around that, and psychology is still a wishy-washy field. It will remain that way until we come up with ways to have measureable and repeatable evidence instead of correlations. How you come up with those when it's a subjective thing is the real problem, there's only so much validity to questionnaires.
Get rid off the bupropion and add a low-dose tricyclic instead (i.e. amitriptyline, imipramine). If you tried a lot of other combinations and they were ineffective, this could make a real difference. At least it was in my case. I tried all SSRI, some SNRI and combinations with APs and neurotransmitter modulators like milnacipran or trazodone, until finally the combination of Venlafaxine and Amitriptyline helped. Add a few years of interpersonal psychotherapy on top of that and I'm nearly free from symptoms of severe social anxiety and depression for the first time in 14 years!
It's not just biochemistry however. Your thoughts form your brain and vice versa. Cultivating different thinking patterns is a learning process. There is a lot going on the psychological and philosophical level where it's still unclear how (structurally and biochemically) it empirically translates to attaining a better mental state.
yeah and clearly messed you up mentally. explaining why youre a degenerate femboy.
@@Psychx_ - Please don't suggest that anyone "get rid of" an SSRI. The w/d symptoms range from miserable to disturbing. I've done this twice, unintentionally. I suggest changing meds only under a doctor's care.
@@Mary_O Oh, I didn't word my post carefully enough. Ofc changing medication does always have to be done under medical supervision and together with the treating physician - I thought that was implicitly clear. All I wanted to say is that when the usual combinations don't work very vell, there's still a chance that the unusual ones do. Bupropion is NDRI btw and is easier to phase out than long-acting or highly lipophilic SSRIs. Tricyclics are the best promoters of neuronal plasticity out there as of now btw. Combining various forms of treatment, i.e. psychotherapy + medication may have better chances of success than doing either of them alone.
Back in the day my Dr put me on a ssri for fibromyalgia. I was not depressed. I had bad insomnia due to pain from fibromyalgia. Back then they gave ssris like candy. They said it would help my insomnia. Yea, right! I ended up on long-term ambien with the ssri. The ssri gave me the i dont give a shit attitude and i became lazy. I was on it for 3 yrs. Then i lost my health ins. I figured it wasnt helping so I decided to come off the ssri with my drs help. Holy crap that was the worst thing i ever encounter. I was dizzy, had brain zapps, arm zapps, headaches, chest pain, anxiety which i had never had before. I thought i was dying. I went to the ER as i was terrified. They said it was withdrawl from paxil. Told me to see my dr. I did and he put me back on it to see if that solved my issue. it did. I was back to normal after the first pill. Now that i knew i wasnt dying, I decided to tuff it out by getting off it again. It took me 18 months to feel better. It was a hell of a ride. Needless to say i will never go back to ssri ever again. That was some scary shit.
Your story is so VERY COMMON! I am glad you got off of them.
Feel you ! Relatable . Still in that recovery stage
Very similar experience for me too. I was on them for about 6 months. I lost pleasure in doing everything i loved, reading and studying, sex and even eating. When I came off them I also thought I was going to die. But what it did do it set me on my path towards a happier healthier future as ironically I undertook the hard therapy work and spent a good 7 years getting better - solely because there was no way they were putting me back on those damn pills 😂
ITs an experiment, doctors act like they know it all and then say "oh try this dope instead"....
Good for you ! I can relate to you on the sex drive thing, SSRIs definitely kills any and all sex drive. @@winkA1
I had severe depression for many years. I tried several different SSRI's and every time, I'd have to stop before the 2 month mark because of increased suicidal thoughts. Fear and empathy for those close to me was what was stopping me from unaliving myself. The numbness from SSRI's took both of those things away. I no longer feared death or cared how my death would affect others. It's a dangerous place to be. Last year, I started doing psychedelic therapy with ketamine and it made a world of difference. I felt hope and motivation for the first time in a long time. For me, depression was not a neurochemistry problem, it was a mindset problem. Psychedelics have the power to change your mindset and break those negative thought-loops, something that SSRI's can't do. I think that's why psychedelic therapy is showing such good results.
I’m a disabled woman with chronic pain, so of course I’m depressed, being in nonstop agony. Ketamine was given to me once in a hospital for my pain and…I, PERSONALLY, don’t like Ketamine because of the hallucinations. I’m kinda strange like that because I’m interested in psychedelics, but I want to be mostly aware. Microdosing might be worth looking into for anyone in my same position!
I wonder if you can microdose on Ketamine? Might be willing to give it another shot if I know I’m not going to be completely out of it for ten minutes.
@@HavianEla The way they did it for me is that we would alternate between high dose sessions where I would be completely separated from reality, and low dose sessions where I would remain lucid and talk with a therapist the whole time. It's hard to say which was more helpful to me. It's also very much a different setting than being given ketamine in a hospital for pain, so that may have impacted how I experienced it. I'd say micro dosing is worth a shot if you have the ability to try that.
General Anxiety Disorder, Social Phobia, Major Depressive here. In pursuing mental health assistance, I hoped to never get on meds. Eventually I caved. In my treatment path, I noticed that SSRIs need better research enforcement in the med field and more thorough vetting methods. I was cycled through many antidepressants which either zombified me or ramped up my anxiety and made me more emotionally fragile and suicidal.
Specialists are your best bet. General doctors, or any doctor that seems like they are throwing darts at the list, will throw you through a symptomatic rollercoaster of meds and could increase your likelihood of behavior and mental volatility. My experience with a psychiatrist in America was terrible. Do not recommend private practice, bc they typically push meds they sponsor as oppose to help you the best, and they dont have colleagues to bounce treatment ideas off of or a hospital to reinforce their training.
In the end, a psych PA and psych NP that worked with psychologists and at a hospital, used DNA sampling to pair my SSRI, and they put me on Zoloft. I remember my depression alleviating and ive been on it ever since. Lamictal was added for my anxiety and mood swings, and ativan for the panic attacks. All in all, ive been on this cocktail for 2 years and ive been making strides in my life. Im extroverted, confident, and recognizing when im having bad days and to go easy on myself and utilize coping skills.
Psych meds will not make your problem go away. The goal for meds was to put me in a stable MINDSET so that I would be willing to work to find a solution for my problem (teach a man to fish instead of giving him one)
SSRIs have never worked for me. They leave me feeling tired and out of it and like I'm teetering on the verge of a massive panic attack that never comes 😢
I don’t comment on videos usually. But I wanted to say…If you are on an SSRI and need it to function, please don’t let this video scare you! I have OCD and ADHD. I found myself in crisis in 2020/2021 and becoming medicated has completely changed me in a good way. I’ve also been in therapy, but medication helped the most until I can seek out specialized therapy for OCD. Newer versions of SSRIs/SNRIs/NDRIs are being released often. Newer generations of these medications typically have less negative side effects. I went down the PSSD rabbit hole and it scared the shit out of me, to the point of wanting to stop taking my meds all together. I’m glad I didn’t. OCD is debilitating at times. I personally am on vilazodone “Viibryd” and have noted a marked difference between it and lexapro. Lexapro completely knocked my sex drive. On viibryd I can still cry, be sad, be happy, orgasm…you name it! Have checkups with your doctors often and bring up sexual dysfunction/S. Ideation and other mood concerns sooner rather than later.
Wait until you try to get OFF your psychiatric meds though... or just keep taking them until you die. And good luck finding a psychiatrist that will believe you when you tell them that the drug is making your symptoms worse or that the side affects are intolerable.
I have mental health issues pretty much since I was born. I took every SSRI and SNRI with little or any effect. I experienced the bad side effects the video describes, such as feeling numb and having sexual dysfunctions. Even more, I felt during all this time that psychiatrists were too happy to give you prescriptions for those and way too many people were taking antidepressants without need, as they were just having a natural reaction to a difficult life. I had every reason to agree with this video and disagree with you but I feel it is you who are right here.
It might have not worked for me but it lifted and helped a lot of people I know. Furthermore I can't explain the entire scientific community overlooking this right now if it is such an error. I like this channel and I will keep liking it but this broad rebuttal of anti depressants is kind of irresponsible. Not wanting to put them in the same page, but some terrible wackos such as Scientologists use some of the arguments presented by this video. And if this wasn't enough, the ending promoting magic mushrooms as an alternative is really off putting.
If you read this, good luck to you mate, I have suffered with those issues my entire life and I know how you feel, and how good is to feel you are on the right path. I frankly gave up on finding a solution to my issues, I just live one day after the other and survive. Nothing ever worked and it is too late to "fix me". Life is what it is, i was quite blessed in other aspects, and in the end, you can't have everything you want.
@@sophiafederico1965its almost like your body gets addicted to it! Interesting…
Anxiety and ADHD dx here as well. Add that to the compartmentalization of everything I see as a trauma nurse? I need my meds or I’d be a wreck.
@@sophiafederico1965 These Drug pushers dont care, they see so many PTs a day they could care less.....Oh try this is works, oh try that instead it works, oh wait thats a better one. 2-400K a year salary and they fix nothing.
I've been on an ssri for about 10 years now. It took me a while to find the right one but I did about 6 years ago. I'm so very thankful for my SSRI, I don't have any side-effects and I'm not suicidal like I was 10 years ago, before I started my first one.
I was so depressed and it saved my life, I think it set something right in my brain. ❤
Thanks for sharing your experience and your story
Thank you for sharing your perspective. The idea of being on them for a decade is a non starter if it were me.
Who am I then if I need it a medicine to be normal? What is me if that can be changed by a drug?
Those would be the questions I would need answered if it was me. Unless I had a timelime for getting off them, I wouldn't system start.
Again, thank you for sharing and I hope it continues to work for you!
@@WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle Would you ask the same questions to a person suffering from diabetes, hypertension or cancer? Would you ever ask a cancer patient not to start chemo/radiation? No. Then why so when it comes to Major depression?
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I am so grateful that I have had, for the most part, positive results from taking SSRIs. Yes there were a few that didn’t help or mixed poorly with other medications but hearing all these horror stories about what other have experienced makes me very thankful. Though, like you mentioned, I’m sure having severe depression as opposed to mild or moderate contributed to that.
It doesn't make you "happy". It evens out the highs and lows of my mood. I don't freak out about stuff when I'm on it. But happy? Nope
I'm on Zoloft and Wellbutrin
I've been on an SSRI for what proved to be major depression and anxiety (been battling bouts of it by myself since I can remember, but 7 years ago it became debilitating and unmanageable). I felt relief almost instantly. It never dulled my emotions, in fact, I regained a level of hapiness and excitement for life that I had not experienced since childhood. It had quite a few other side effects, including weight gain and loss of libido, but it was a worthy trade, considering the benefits. I managed to very slowly get off it by dosing the medication down over the course of a year, taking smaller doses more and more rarely. I recommend this approach to anyone feeling ok and wanting to get off this type of medication, as quitting at a faster pace (as my doctor had recommended) did not work well for me. My anxiety did show up from time to time afterwards, but nothing close to what it was pre-treatment. The libido came back with a vengeance 😂 Thank you for this informative video.
all u need is 3.5 grams of dried magic mushrooms. JUST ONCE and u will thank me for the rest of your life :)
@@dns_errornot everyone wants to take a bunch of magic mushrooms to fix there mental issues
Most people that recommend these drugs don’t take into consideration that other people have worsening of these issues when they take these drugs
Stop being a jack ass
yep
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@@dns_erroras an advocate for psychedelics in medicine I think this advice is fucking stupid and is way easier to cause harm than do good
VERY INFORMATIVE TOOK NOTES THE WHOLE TIME U EARNED A SUB 🔥
Last studies mentioned in the video about psilocybin stated meds were used for 6 weeks which is not even 2 months. I think it is not fair to conclude results for SSRI before time period of at least 6 months as its best effects are seen after that time period. Earlier in video, it was said SSRI do give some people hard time for first 2 months so it's obvious why it didn't show better results. I also think same could be said for psilocybin, maybe its negative effects shows after a time period just like how SSRI has short term effects when taken at first. Regardless, SSRI surely isn't that effective of a drug but thats all we have atm and hence we use it usually. Its individual experience on how SSRI affect them, some say it helps while others say it doesn't. I hope some more research will help and in meantime stigma regarding mental hardship would ease off.
Before trying an SSRI I told my therapist I didn’t know what anxiety was or what it felt like. After taking it, I realized I was actually a very anxious person. Suddenly all of the inner dialog and inhibitions that surrounded much of my life were gone. I felt sincerely happy and excited for the the first time in over a decade. I finally felt like I had the energy and motivation to do things and while it didn’t make all of my problems go away, it seemed to ‘grease the gears of life’. I might still feel like ‘I don’t want to do this’ but that feeling is not debilitating. I’ve had sleeping problems for over 10 years and while it has not made them disappear, it has reduced a lot of the anxiety I had over sleep. I feel like I’m able to accept things more easily now, whether they go my way or not. I already thought of myself as a calm person, but I feel even more level-headed and centered in myself. I feel like the SSRI helps me be the best version of myself, the person I’ve wanted to be but never felt like I had the motivation or energy to become. I’ve not experienced any negative side effects. That said, I’m not a very sexually active person, nor is sex important to me (I’m asexual).
yeah its crazy how rational it feels until you have a moment of clarity. I find thats when the struggles really come, though. Since you now know what a "normal" life is like.
SSRi's disconnect the lower emotional brain from the upper imagianry brain , leaving you unable to FEEL anything at all
What this means is your imagination will be saying I'm fine, but your body could be about to give up and die and you imagianry idea of self will have no idea how your physically FEELING
Like taking SSRI' s gaining 12 stone in weight, how you doing ? yes I'm doing great,
Totally disconnected from physical biological reality
Just started at 44yo for mild but persistent anxiety and short episodes of depression. I'm starting to feel exactly like you described and I hope it will be better and better. Thank you very much for your words ❤
I can understand your feelings
I find it so scary that doctors dont do more blood tests for cortisol levels, uncommon vitamin deficiencies, etc before prescribing SSRIs.
Some of it can be treated with other methods besides SSRIs
Even many Laypeople know how low vitamin D can affect mood. But I can imagine due to racism in the healthcare system, many medical workers may not take into account that people with a high concentration of melanin living in colder climates are especially prone to winter depression
Pretty much everything affects mood. Health care is just another business.
@@ledzepgirl92 it’s not racism… it’s just ignorance. Most Dr.’s don’t know about deficiencies can affect moods. I’m white … everything I deal with due to autoimmune diseases I have all they want to do is throw antidepressants at it … even though they could do more blood work and tests to find out what is actually wrong and fix it. Dr.‘a seem to be listening to drug companies and not practicing actual medicine. Has zero to do with race.
There’s no revenue if doctors actually had real solutions.
@@peacenpowder”Plan and simple.” They’ll accuse you of being a hypochondriac or hysterical. Self-advocacy does nothing when nobody listens to you.
There are important nuances that should have been addressed in this doc. The biggest one is a possible misdiagnosis of simple depression in people who actually have bipolar II disorder. In such patients, myself for example, antidepressant treatment can lead to episodes of mania/hypomania. In episodes of mania and hypomania, people can become increasingly aggressive. After all, mania and depression are flip sides of the same coin as are suicidality and homicidality. In treating BDII, the possibility of manic reactions must be taken into account and if hyper-aggression is a side-effect, then a mood stabilizer can be added to treatment.
I personally have never experienced the mood-flattening of any anti-depressant treatment, MAOIs, tricyclics and SSRIs. In fact, the effect is quite the opposite. Same goes for libido. Generally, even with mood stabilizer treatment, my sexuality is enhanced. Maybe this is typical of BDII people and doesn't apply to folks with mild to moderate depression. It would have been useful if such distinctions were addressed in the doc.
Did you have MDD prior to developing Bipolar? I have heard many people say that MDD turns into Bipolar and am worried for myself since I have MDD.
Also, what effects do these drugs have on people with psychotic depression?
Thanks for vid, as always, I'm very content with videos like this.
I used SSRI's to cure MADD, the thing I happened to get according to my first diagnoses, before for about a 1.5 years, and I got tolerance for them after about 3 months after starting another medication treatment, and thus my condition peaked and stopped to improve every drug proscribed for me. I felt that SSRI's, combined with anxiolytics, were indeed useful in improving my mood, yet such improvement was relatively weak and nonsignificant, and I still was prone to anxious ruminations and whatsoever. Side effects on my body were also present, such as mild libido decrease, increased sleep and certain, shall we say, "issues" with GI tract. Eventually, my condition seemed to get worse according to myself, and doctors said that I should've myself put in psychiatric hospital, but I just stopped any kind of treatment, be it therapy or medications, and I was surprised that I had no withdrawal or whatsoever. As if I just switched the lights of sorts without any significant consequences. As far as I now can suspect as non-medical specialist, it was not the MADD all along, but, probably, some sort of bipolar thing or whatsoever. I cannot prove or disregard it but starting another round of therapy, though.
I’ve been taking Wellbutrin for about 2 years now. I’m aware that Wellbutrin isn’t an SSRI but wanted to share my experience anyway; I gotta say, it’s been working really well for me. It’s a bit hard to describe but I feel like it’s made me feel more confident in general. I feel like it’s helped me unlock the courage I had in me all along. For instance, before I was being treated, I didn’t really care if someone walked all over me. Like, I was aware that they were doing it but I just wouldn’t say anything about it. It felt pointless to say something. Like I said, I just didn’t care at all. But since I started Wellbutrin, it’s helped me with caring about standing up for myself more and its given me the “courage” to openly discuss my feelings and what I’m thinking. It really has taken away that inclination to just stay silent and deal with things on my own. I hope that all made sense.
Wellbutrin was the only one that didn't zombify me. It's the only one I would consider taking again in the future.
Alcohol has same affect.
@@wilyinfidel1091 wtf are you talking about
@@baiseduezcke2295 taking drugs changes your physiology and intellectual perceptions.
@@wilyinfidel1091so does getting a stomach bug that makes you shit your pants or eating too much fiber/protein. We can draw conclusions all day. But at the end of it, they're still dumb. Just like your comment.
Thank you so much for shedding light on PSSD!
Thank you for this. I've been on Sertraline since around 2015, and it helps to know that my symptoms are not unique. I want to get off of it soon, because the blunted emotions are very much a thing, but I also know that it's helped me be able to think straight, more logically.
I was confused hearing about all the negative effects of SSRIs until it was specified that those happen to people with mild/moderate depression and i had/have major depression.
I've been on an SNRI for 4-5 years and changed which SSRI i have taken for most of that time too, and ive finally got a good combo where i actually feel genuine happiness. Ive also started going to therapy which has definitely helped a lot too
Getting onto SSRI's is an absolute nightmare. The anxiety goes off the scale for weeks. You get no sleep and have no appetite. This should be made VERY clear to patients *before* they start the treatment.
They actually helped me sleep during the first month or so
@@Coastal_Cruzer you must've been fortunate, which is good.
The reason they stopped giving them to teenagers in the UK, particularly male was because they were causing dangerous adverse effects, increased anxiety and very 'bad' thoughts.
“Getting onto SSRIs is a nightmare”
Only for a small % of people though. The vast majority do feel side effects at the beginning but they mostly go away and then they notice a reduction in anxiety and/or depression. I find there is hysteria sometimes around medication .
@@brianmeen2158 I'm stating UK scientific findings particularly in adolescent males. I went through 4 weeks of hell as an adult female. Do not try to throw shade and belittle my experience by calling it hysterical. I never slept or ate for weeks, it was awful. You must work for a pharmaceutical company 😆
Noone here is trying to stand with pharmaceuticals, it's just the information available right now. I'm also on escitalopram and it works with my anxiety.
I tried mushrooms myself years ago, took them three times. Alone. To see if they would help me out with a long lasting effect. Grown them myself at home, took about 7 weeks. Dried them and so on. Began with a very low dose, about 0.5 g, then 1g and at last 1.8 g. And that was the sweet spot for me. Experienced "Ego death". After that, felt no need to smoke pot or drink alcohol anymore. No depression, nada. Everything was in perspective as it should have been a long time ago (lasted about 2 years!). Hooked up with a borderline girl, and she was able to destroy everything in just 1,5 years. Now i am thinking about growing another batch. You can buy grow kits in the Netherlands, they ship this within Europe. Seems to be a legal loophole of some kind. I don't have severe depression, but moderate + ADHD. Hail to the pharma lobby for letting them fill us up with antidepressants. It is all about money. Nobody really cares how you feel, as long as the money keeps coming.
I'm looking into mushrooms myself as SSRI's had no positive effect except for the initial placebo effect that went away long before the "6 weeks loading period". I did experience a couple of side effects.
Here in Norway they prescribe anti-depressants in less than 10 minutes, and then no follow up. It's up to you to decide your own medical treatment basically. GP's in Norway are very conservative, I'm not sure it's even wise to mention CBD oils, MDMA etc because they might put "drug seeker" in your journal.
As you said no one cares, it's all about getting to the next patient.
I have a small batch of shrooms to do one "big one" or a bunch of therapeutic ones. My first time was pretty good and nothing bad happen, although the potential for bad things were there, but I managed to steer my mind clear of dark thoughts.
Hope you get back on track :)
I wouldn't say it's all about money. Psychedelics aren't well researched because they were banned from using them in research in many countries so we don't know if they help and what are the possible risks. Also psychedelics sometimes can contribute to development of schizophrenia
I’ve tried quite a bit of mushrooms and LSD, however, I never felt it really did much to change my perspective in that sense.
Hoe de f verlaat je iemand met bpd, ik Ben Al 6 x terug gezogen in de ellende
I'm trying to experience Ego Death
This was a very insightful video. As someone who doesn't have clinical depression, I had no idea what SSRIs were, and the thumbnail didn't really give me anything to go off of either. Maybe a better title for this video would be "The Dark Side of Treating Depression" or something.
I started SSRI medication when I was only 13. I'm now 20 and still depressed, but I don't feel suicidal anymore. I think I'm still alive thanks to SSRI
nope the SSRI increase suicides they always have
Just search national suicide figures, and watch the graph jump higher as soon as they started giving out SSRI's
You kept yourself alive the SSRIS made it harder
I feel like a better title for this would be "The Dark Side of Over-Prescribing". You could easily include more than one example than just SSRIs. Doctors being under-educated and over-eager on the drugs they prescribe is genuinely a huge problem that you could cover on a broader scale, without looking like you're trying to scare people about one specific classification of drug. They can actually help people when correctly prescribed. It's weird to imply that the drugs themselves are doing something sinister, when they're literally inanimate. It takes a person to misuse and mis-prescribe them. I've learned through experience to always research anything my doctor prescribes before taking it. I encourage others to do the same, because it turns out, our doctors usually don't.
Been watching for a few months. Love the vids. Great as always
The 2004 study linking suicidal tendencies and SSRI medication was later criticized because the authors of the study did not properly screen for bipolar disorder, which is why the black box warning was removed.
The black box warning it still there on ssris. Well it is here in the uk
Black box warning was not removed and for good reason. I took an SSRI (undiagnosed BP I at the time; and it sent me into major depression and caused me to attempt. I had never experienced depression before taking it and my mood changed overnight after a few weeks.)
This hit the nail on the head. I’ve been taking the generic version of Zoloft for almost 5 years now. It’s true, it works but it doesn’t work. I used to have severe bouts of anxiety and depression, intense emotional roller coasters, mood swings, anger issues, panic attacks, etc… this medication really did smooth everything out. But much of the time I do feel like a numb and apathetic zombie. Often times I just feel unmotivated and don’t really care. Lethargic and can’t get out of my own way. Stuff that used to interest me or excite me, I barely even care about anymore if at all. My personal life seems to be taking a turn for the worst, and I barely even care. I wonder if this is the “emotional blunting” I’ve heard about that comes with long term SSRI use. Sure, feeling numb is a lot better than the anxiety roller coaster I used to be on, but I hate not “feeling.” It really sucks. I want to be able to “feel” and care about stuff again. I’ve been wondering lately if these meds are even right for me anymore.
i have been taking an ssri for anxiety, not depression. my anxiety was severe, and i was developing a panic disorder. tbh, my feelings have always been really really intense, moreso than what people around me seem to experience. i dont feel numb at all. i just feel like i can actually relax and handle things in my life without having a panic attack now. but like you said, its best results were in severe cases. it may not be depression, but the severe anxiety was making my life miserable. and now my life is better. i dont want to disappear anymore. so i think its definitely better than nothing, and its all on a case by case basis.
I’ve been on Prozac for almost 6 years for OCD and that numbing has worked wonders on treating my obsessive intrusive thoughts. It’s so interesting how SSRIs treat different disorders! Great video man
OCD the constant counting of thing endlessly I have that I take Prozac for that as well.
I have OCD, which causes anxiety which triggers little depression which makes me feel dumb because I'm dyslexic and possibly adha. I have rapid thinking of, 'what if', or 'are they mad at me', or 'did I say something wrong' or 'should I have kept my mouth shut'. Thoughts within thoughts and possibilities within possibilities. Which caused me to stay away and be quiet because I am also afraid of sounding or looking stupid and care what people say or think of me.
Now that I'm on Prozac my thoughts are more Collective and quiet. I say what I think without what people think about my opinion especially when they ask a question. Plus I'm not afraid much to be more myself because I now don't have thoughts (OCD much) stopping me from being myself and my full potential. I work with Networking and Programming. I am more focused, sure, and collected but I am still lacking energy which I need because the motivation is there (which I always had) plus I find myself enjoying details in life like movies (but I always had a think of reading people's emotions, faces expressions, and personality) which is awesome because I feel like I missed out the little things in life because I would shutout or think to much which took allot of my attention even though I was always self aware. I like this even though I had confidence in my looks but not the smarts which now I see I have achieved allot but not great but enough to say I'm doing good for a 32 year old with an apartment, sports car, food, and extra cash with certifications with the FCC and more. Before I took Prozac I still felt like a dumb failure which now I see with all the stuff I got diagnosed with which I knew I was different. I'm now sure if myself and applause myself with my challenges I had I still succeeded the most normal people. So I say yeah Prozac helped me allot.
My SSRI helped with my severe depression and extreme anxiety. I still have anxiety spikes now and then that would be considered extreme to most people, but still nothing like it was before, and no longer constant fear of impending doom or shutting myself indoors for years at a time.
I also noticed an immense change in how I let others interact with me, and how I respond to criticism and how I respond to interacting with others where I perceive that they don't like me or that I hurt their feelings. Before SSRIs (duloxetine specifically) I would cower, apologize, feel like crying, delete all my messages, delete my social media presence, go silent and shut down, self sabotage, and self harm if I felt I had hurt anyone's feelings, if anyone criticized me, if anyone didn't like me, or anyone pushed me around.
Now on SSRIs, I tend to respond with a bit of anger but that quickly becomes defiance. If I hurt someone's feelings, I apologize and feel a /little/ bad and if they critique me, I might feel upset a bit but then I remember whether or not I take their criticism to heart or do anything to change myself is entirely up to me. And I don't worry about it so much. But my biggest 'issue' if you can call it that is the defiance because my general response to people telling me they don't like me or pushing me around is to tell them to **** off, that I like myself just fine, and don't be such a lil *****. Literally every person who used to use me as a doormat and push me around and only talk to me when they needed things, or generally treated me like trash before went running for the hills because I just develop an attitude instead of apologizing profusely and bending to their will. It's been very freeing and the only problem is I will absolutely fight back if someone starts swinging lol
My doctor told me that they DO NOT recommend duloxetine (brand name cymbalta) to people with aggression or anger management issues because it will absolutely make that worse. But for my case specifically of being too meek and weak willed, it gave me a spine and a fist to throw back so for that I'm eternally grateful. I'm now the bane of everyone's existence instead of everyone being the bane of mine. Which is great. Also no sexual problems, though I did gain about 40lbs when I started it. Which sucks, but it's worth it.
I should also mention I in no way feel numb, like a zombie, nor unable to achieve happiness or climax. Everything's normal with the exception of I now will fight anyone who tries to mistreat me or my friends instead of trying to hurt myself.
Technically Cymbalta is an SNRI not an SSRI
So you're basically "lying" to your self that everything is fine,also that "apologising for hurting feeling" is something to do with you being a high consciousness person,means you read the "vibe" around you,there no reason for you to take the medication since there is nothing wrong to fix,grow a pair in time and face your peoblems slowly but steadily
Sheesh, sounds like a dream to me honeslty. I can feel all the emotions inside but never act to it. I look like stone who doesn't have a thought in their head. I used to be confident, defend people all the time. Then I stumbled upon social anxiety and now I look like a little mouse. Also lost friends because I forgot how to maintain friendships and now I'm afraid to be near people, even my own parents. Can't look them in their eyes while talking or being talked at. I still feel confident but with so many stupid symptoms that make me freeze and glitch mentally and phisically.
I would take this 'magic' you're using, but I don't have depression. I don't know what to do with my anxieties. I have like a package of them in every pocket, I can share 😅😅😢
@@doratfm2998I'd say try therapy first, then maybe buspirone, then maybe an SSRI on top if the Buspar alone isn't sufficient.
Not a doctor here.
No matter what you take, or don't, either way you're going to have to systematically desensitize yourself to what you fear, by exposure, in controlled doses.
Yeah, sympathies on that.
i have OCD and taking SSRI's was something that changed my life, my mind just got quiet, and i've always been an ambitious person so my everyday life now is filled with hobbies and activities. complete 180 shift from agoraphobia and anxiety attacks. don't let this scare you, if they work for you keep using them, if not figure out a different way.
nope. My antidepressants actually made my OCD worse.
"my mind just got quiet"
yea im sure there is not much going on in there when you are all drugged out 24/7 🤣
Thanks for the content and for being of the accuracy kind, only came to say the auto ads on your channel are the kind i keep watching, is there a kind of selective way for you to say i wanna display this better then that? Dunno but it’s awesome thanks
I have been severely depressed for 10 years. I’ve been on SSRIs 6 times and every time it’s the same. First 4 months are amazing, I feel great, peaceful and gain so much confidence. After that, I start to become numb, easily agitated; uninterested and get too comfortable staying in bed all day. They’ve helped my mood, but completely kill my drive to achieve and my libido. I’ve also been on MAOIs, SNRIs, Adderall and Auvelity. I’ve found NDRIs work best for me, but I have many friends who’ve found great benefit from Ssri and many who’ve gotten worse. It all depends on the individual, but I’m glad researchers are finding that depression can’t always be relieved through serotonin increase alone.
I had an SSRI when i was severely depressed, it made it even worse and i couldn't sleep well anymore.
First time seeing a video from this channel. Seems like a great channel, great quality, a little too worried about losing the ad revenue
I don't even get monetized half the time because of my video topics. If CZcams flags my video as age restricted then it gets shadowbanned on the platform, and then hardly anyone sees it. The reason this video got as much spread as it did, and why you were likely able to see it was because I obeyed the mighty CZcams guidelines. Trust me, I'm not a fan of censoring myself, especially when it comes ot educational content
I’m on an antidepressant/anti-anxiety med but idk if it’s exactly an SSRI, but basically, it drastically helped me after having tried a bunch of others that just didn’t work for me. Basically, I still have anxiety but it’s manageable and I don’t have anxiety attacks anymore. I’m very grateful for it. I don’t know if what I’m taking is necessarily the same thing, but it seems to work for me, so I don’t exactly know. I’m just happy I can handle doing things now. I am fairly sure I had a negative past reaction to Prozac, though.
To be honest, I was so tortured by my mental health, I wanted to be numbed and not feel anything.
never stop making videos
you are of the few youtubers with this type of quality
Thank you!
@@darkscienceyt perhaps realize that we're all adults here and stop censoring every other word.
At this point I think I would prefer a lobotomy to all the different anti-depressants I’ve been prescribed in the last 27 years. If you can name a pharmaceutical anti-depressant I’ve probably been on it. And guess which ones have worked?? That’s right…. I feel Exactly the same as I did 27 years ago. And the withdrawal symptoms (which I noticed they now try to use the euphemism “discontinuation syndrome” for instead 🙄) are the worst I’ve ever felt in my entire life. Worse than the depression.
How are you now?
@@hemantchaudhary7605 Unemployed and Homeless. Thanks for asking.
@@SoLongAndThanksForAllTheFish. how to overcome from your depression
Bro, even 27 years ago, the doctors would have admitted that you'd be on them forever. It stood to reason and was obvious that holistic treatment won't ever leave you high and dry like the pills definitely will.
Basically, fuck doctors
If you told me 20 years ago that in 2023 the word "shooting" would be censored I'd think you were crazy. Yt is so weird.
I have dealt with PTSD and a chronic Generalized Anxiety Disorder as a result of that PTSD for six years and while I initially resisted SSRI's I actively take them and they do greatly reduce the impacts of anxiety in my life. The description of emotions being wrapped in cellophane is very poignant and it is as if there is a fragile barrier that resists the highs being too high and the lows being too low. And from a space where the lows used to be so very low/physically panic inducing it is a relief.
Been on 200mg sertraline for quite some time for dysthymia and recently got off quetiapine. From experience, I can say that Zoloft has been an absolute life changer, feels like I'm on a chill-relaxing drive on empty roads. Yeah, I feel emotionally unavailable and numb but I don't mind it. And if anything, it probably increased my libido somehow. Antipsychotics, however, made me feel absolutely dumb, brain-fogged, and drowsy af.
Yeah Antipsychotics were not it for me
100mg Sertralin for me. Has been good and pretty much the same you described. But sometimes when upping the dose, my mind can go into dark places, but I instantly know it's because of the pills so then I get really happy and hyper lol, almost like mdma comeup
I have dysthymia too I am on paxil it is working for anxiety side but the depression didn't improve much still feeling anhedonia and emotionally numbness do you have anhedonia on zoloft
@@ahmedaraale4996 damn that's intense
@@SetiSupreme sounds like manic depression
I have been on various SSRIs and SNRIs for years and I have come to terms with the fact that I will probably take them for my entire life or until new breakthroughs are made. I was put on them at 14 for horrible debilitating social anxiety (think throwing up every day before school, shaking, sweating, the works). They’ve worked very well for me for that anxiety. I also have bipolar II and mood stabilizers have been a wonder for that. Literally life changing. I tried to come off of all medications for a period of about 5 years in my early 20s and my quality of life was just not great. I enjoy life a lot more when I’m taking my meds. I’d like to try psilocybin but my dr is afraid it will push me into an extreme manic phase
@@peacenpowder that’s really interesting because cannabis and any kind of thc has always really really bothered me. It shoots my anxiety through the roof bc I can’t feel my body anymore and the altered sensory perception is so unsettling. Is that what your bipolar friends experienced too?
What did he say? Shadowbanned comment?@@eXcludeyStarling
I started my first SSRi, prozac, last year for my extreme OCD and it was amazing, I literally could move on with my life without having intrusive thoughts. Eventually the effect started to flatline, so i switched to Duloxetine, an SNRI. So far its ok but i feel a bit more sensitive to intrusive thoughts than before.
Now about the numbing feeling, it was amazing for someone like me with ocd and anxiety, but after sometime, i would look back on events during the day and see how the numbing effect affects me. Sometimes i might recklessly drive, or feel nothing when a patient at my job is in severe pain ( i work at a doctors office), or get brain fog when talking. Its kinda something i almost never notice so it never bothered me.
In terms of side effects, I exeperience almost nothing aside from sleepiness and that numbing feeling. No worsening symptoms or sexual dysfunction, etc.
If i had depression, i feel like i would react differently to this medication. But with anxiety, it works good enough
Reckless driving and no capacity to feel empathy for a patient in extreme pain, I hope you are no long driving and found work somewhere that doesn't require the capacity to care, maybe working from home
I was prescribed very high doses of SSRIs from the age of 11 until I finally gained legal power at age 18. Those drugs ruined my body and my life. They caused uncontrollable weight gain, diabetes, and PCOS. The doctors never cared about helping me get out of an abusive home where I was beaten by an abusive stepfather and psychologically traumatized by a dangerous narcissistic mother. Their solution was to keep me on drugs that made me deathly ill and extremely aggressive and s*icidal.
SSRIs should ONLY be a very last resort. I cry for all the children whose lives are still being ruined by these horrible drugs when in reality, their home environment is the source of their problems.
I’ve been on SSRI’s for 20 years for MDD, PTSD, anxiety disorder and OCD and while it took a long time to find one compatible for me being duloxetine, it did definitely help me and eventually I was able to slowly reduce my dose by half. I’d love to get off it completely but also use it for fibromyalgia and I just can’t completely stop as my fibromyalgia flares up. But I feel sad, happy, joyful and depressed at times too but I deal with it now whereas I couldn’t before.
I was on different kinds of SSRIs (and antipsychotics) and I hated all of them. Numerous side effects from mildly- annoying to life-threatening. What's best is that I was prescribed them for misophonia and not depression or anxiety and hence it had no helpful effect. Psychiatry is still in its diapers.
Well stated! All the best wishes to you
for real i have 5 pcs and after 20days i tried one pc of SRRI and the side effects is harmful and it's so hard for me because i had a pnic attack, upon reading it is nit advisable to take those in people have panic disorder?
If these drugs were illegal, news headlines would be screaming hysterical warnings about how dangerous they are.
PSSD awareness! Thank you for this content
I’ve been on Lexapro for about 12 years and sertraline (Zoloft) from the age of 16 before that. Previously, I had debilitating depression. SSRIs have given me the ability to live a more normal life. I haven’t experienced any negative side effects at all.
Experiencing "any SE at all" is just impossible
Yes and look now 12 years later you still haven't healed. This is what they are a (band-aid) approach not actually healing you or getting to the root-cause of the issue. If you were to go off them you would probably experience major withdrawal symptoms.
@@truesight91 You're missing the original point. I was totally incapable of function prior. My brain literally gets rid of serotonin, which is a genetic issue for people in my family. That *was* the root-cause of the issue. It was nothing about my life--I had a good life, objectively speaking, but my neurology was flawed.
I've accomplished every goal I had during my life now at the age of nearly 33. I'm completely content. I have zero regrets about using this medication to live a good life. I have never experienced a single negative side effect from my meds and they've allowed me to live the life I wanted. Isn't that what everyone is trying to do?
@@Mmcermes Not in my experience. I'm in perfect health and totally content and successful in life.
@@pureicefire You can correct all diseases by long term fasting and returning to a raw fruit and vegetable (whole food) diet and 2 - 3 sessions of psilocybin mushrooms can replace a lifetime of having to take supplements. I doubt you are in perfect health and content as a zen master. True peace and happiness is freedom from all external needs and requirements to be happy. Glad you found what works for you though :)
i was going through a rough time in my early 20s. i was misdiagnosed with depression and my GP gave me an SSRI. i wish they weren't handed out like candy. i didn't realize the withdrawals could be so devastating. coming off of them was so emotionally catastrophic that i nearly killed myself and ended up in the mental hospital. eventually I figured out that i didn't have depression, i have inattentive type ADHD, which wasn't even recognized in adults at the time. this shit is so dangerous
as someone who has been taking SSRIs since around the age of 12, i found this video very interesting. i had no idea about any of this and it’s definitely something to think about. that being said, if upon learning this you feel as though you want to stop taking your antidepressants, i’d strongly urge you to do this with the help of your doctor every step of the way. it sounds obvious, but also very cliche so i’m sure many people don’t heed this common warning and regret it. even if you plan to wean yourself off instead of quitting cold turkey, you should still do it based on your doctor’s instructions. antidepressant withdrawal is in the top three worst physical things i’ve felt in my entire life thus far. i stopped taking my medication (lexapro, buspar, minipress, lamictal, and possibly clonidine if i was still on it at the time) for around a week while on vacation, not because i wanted to stop taking them but simply because i was either forgetting it or too tired at the end of the day to take them. it was an incredibly stupid decision that i paid for in spades. i was down for the count for a week, so nauseous i couldn’t move, shaking like a crack addict, extremely light-headed all the time, and waking up in the middle of the night sobbing and curled up in a ball feeling the urge to be sick for hours but never being able to. great vid, but be careful everyone.
Underrated comment. Good on you for trying to help others who want to get off of these highly-addictive drugs.
I have been off my SSRI treatment for 2 years. I still have side-effects today, a condition called PSSD.
How long did you taper off and how long where you on them?
@@benphillips8428 short 8 day taper. On the medication for 7 months. One can develop PSSD after a single dose or suddenly experience symptoms after being on the medication for for years. With regards to tapering, it is not certain if a short taper can trigger the condition. General thinking is that a long taper is a safer approach.
I had anxiety and I didn't think I did and it was normal. I used to get headaches and stiff neck! My heart rate was always high. I would worry about everything and always used it to my advantage to get stuff done. Just recently I went through a lot in my family and my anxiety was so bad I couldn't focus, learn, negative and no drive! I'm on 4th week of zoloft and I feel so amazing! I am performing at my job and I'm so driven again, I applied for a 2nd remote job! I can exercise, I can read and retain info! I'm happy I started taking them. It truly changed my life.
You forgot to mention Serotonin Syndrome as a dark side of SSRIs. This condition IS a medical emergency and IS fatal if the serotonin levels in the brain get too high.
THC, CBD, Ibuprofen, and certain cold medications can trigger this condition if a patient is on higher doses of SSRIs.
I’m on three meds that affect my serotonin levels. Wellbutrin XL, Buspirone, and Lamotrigine (a mood stabilizer that affects the same neurotransmitter). They all work well together. I feel pretty good.
However…. I have to watch what I add into my system that can seem a mundane drug or herbal remedy readily available in stores.
**ALWAYS CONSULT YOUR PSYCHIATRIST OR DOCTOR BEFORE TAKING ANY HERBAL REMEDY OR OVER-THE-COUNTER DRUG IF YOU ARE ON SSRIs!!**
Hi im a new sub, ty for the upload. ❤
When I was on antidepressants, I started losing my feelings and thoughts, becoming technically like a zombie. I started missing the time that I was blowing up in anger fits and crying every night, because that time I still felt things. I stopped taking them cold turkey, and surprise surprise, I became aggressive and depressive but in my head I was like 'better than nothing!' but I was forced to take them again so here I am again
My relationship with SSRI’s has been a long and messy one since I was 18. Hated it, got off it, and then something traumatic would happen and I’d be put back on them and repeat. Now, it wasn’t until college that I tried shrooms and LSD and immediately started becoming fascinated with them. I highly believe they were paramount in helping me finally give up alcohol. I’m not going to sit here and say it’s the ‘cure all’ but I think by forming new pathways, it can get addicts out of the ‘loop’ relatively easier especially when combined with other effective methods of recovery.
all u need is 3.5 grams of dried magic mushrooms. shame how humans have banned it. just shame.
What's going to get you out of the SSRI loop? Or do you care? You're still dependent on a drug. But if it's okayed by the medical industrial complex, I guess you feel legitimized.🎉
You. You are the one that's gonna get me out of the loop. Come on over big man. Poppa makin chicken and waffles for dinner. @@Fawn91193
@@Fawn91193 that's not very nice :( poor dude was just sharing his experience
I had pretty bad clinical depression and was put on a mood stabilizer that also treats epilepsy. I guess “mood stabilizer” just meant it makes you stop feeling everything, because that’s what happened. Even after I stopped taking the medication, I still didn’t feel anything, not just the depression, but everything else too. I just felt empty and emotionally dead. It’s been a couple years since then and it hasn’t changed. And yes, I’ve gotten psychiatric help, and no, it didn’t help.
There's probably more than one cause of depression. Maybe there are different types of depression. I see different people give different experience with the same meds. For some it helped, for some it made it worse, and for others didn't change anything at all. If I had to guess, I'd say depression is like cancer. It's an umbrella term for number of symptoms. But you can't cure the root cause by treating the symptoms.
You've clearly never suffered from depression
As some one with GAD and depression SSRIs work perfect for me , if not I’d have panic attacks and a feeling of impending doom
Depression is and always will be a constant companion throughout my life. It became so overwhelming and all encompassing I went to school to learn more about it and eventually earned my medical degree and retired as a psychiatrist. I obviously never talked about it with my patients or anything but it changed my perspective seeing so many others going through the same struggles I had. I'd even attempted to end my own life multiple times when I was younger and even though I academically understand the correlation between impulsiveness and self harm no one has ever described me as 'impulsive' I'm the opposite if anything.
Even today I still meet doctors who say such oblivious stuff as "Why don't you just stop being depressed? Try exercising instead or something?"
Theres still a massive stigma that people with mental illness just somehow got stunted developmentally and never learned to cope with their problems or stop treating their emotions so importantly like teenagers.
It's exhausting and never helps but if you're struggling too I can tell you with 100% certainty that there weree far more doctors like me than doctors like that and it's hard but help is out there and you deserve it.
If you're a young person who's struggling I want you to know this world is a far better place with you in it and there are people who care about you.
Personally I deal with my depression by humanizing it. I talk to it as my permanent passenger and weve become good friends. Remember your brains job is to keep you alive - not happy so think about the good things your depression does for you.
Mine will often show up when I've overloaded myself and whisk me away to get some much needed rest and force me to remember that's it's okay for me to take breaks too.
Sometimes it gets really bad and I have to remind my passenger friend that we still have stuff to do and sometimes I win and sometimes he does but either way it's always ok.
Why don't I deserve to lay in bed for a few days and watch documentaries? Why cant I just sit at home and cry as long as I'm not bothering anyone?
Me and my depression get along great now and I hope some day you and yours can too.
When it gets real bad I'll even picture myself as a child and tell him all the things I wish someone had told me. Just like I am here now with you and I hope someone who needed to hear this did.
It's ok. You're ok. We will get through this together because we are lucky enough o never be alone.
What is your opinion on taking ssri? Is it better to take or not, in your opinion as a doctor
thanks for sharing this in a concise video. I always wondered and now a scientist myself, i was forced and abused as a child at the age of 8-9 (still with a developing brain mind you) zoloft down my throat by my stepdad and mum where placebo would just suffice and they understood i wasn't depressed, just growing up. Guess what now, I have lesions in my frontal lobe which caused my epilepsy, which now i have it for life. While forced on the ssri i didn't feel happy nor sad; i also barely have any memories of my childhood then. i couldn't access and feel what i wanted to feel, when i wanted to feel; it was as if i was in autopilot and if i wanted a cry to let it al out i just it wasn't there, nor was happiness; i was like a puppet in someone's strings. it was terrible; it took my chilhood away, caused trauma and actual physical issues later down my life and now i know the psychiatrist my ex abusive stepdad was paying for, she knew about this study but still went along with this. please do one thing for you children: don't just drug them for them to resent you for life and take their childhood away. Try CBT first and try to understand them as they're growing, don't just assume something is wrong automatically and drug them like i was. this is a very difficult topic for me to talk about as it still gives me nightmares and how i was mistreated and how i am, i feel it changed me as a person i have been in a coma due to seizures because of this drug; i no longer feel like i once did before this drug rewired my brain differently. Like any drug what happens with receptors in your body if you leave too much of something around, the receptors will just start dying off because they will become accustomed to that "normal" that was never like that or meant to be and in a developing brain, i mean, i could show you my MRI sequences so you can see the "serotonin paths" in the brain where my neurons literally have died and you can see it as white matter lesions. Sorry it's just a topic even now as a scientist, it's a very personal subject to talk about and i always steered away from because i always felt the only thing i had, my personality and the way i am and childhood was stripped away from me, but hopefully now with some cbt i signed up for i will find peace, and sue the bastards one day too for all the pain to this day thei made me go through.
I know this is somewhat off topic, but I can somewhat relate the sensation my emotions numbed/ dulled when I was taking meds for my ADD.
Not at all off topic
Same here
Same my Ritalin would help me so much with school and life I would be able to actually get out of bed in the morning. But when I take it I’m not really me. My personality and humor isn’t reallly there and I can’t think deep about shit idk
My psychiatrist explained SSRI’s effect this way: Kortisol, the stress hormone, breaks down the myelin surrounding neurons, weakening their connection, SSRI’s helps/promotes re-myelination, and the effect comes from this. The Psychiatrist also specified that an important part of spotting the difference of manic-depression, and depressive episodes, are to examine if the depressive episode comes after a major stressful episode. This makes e lot of sense to me! Also, i can confirm the numbing effect SSRI’s have. I take them by my own wish against anxiety, and they help very well against anxiety, and i would enter depression if i had to endure anxiety to the degree i was before. Great video!
So do you plan to take them until your elderly? I'm on the fence, I just stopped prozac because I'm worried that long term it will damage my serotonin in my mind.
@@alexmangrum90 maybe, maybe not. Time will show i guess. As long as they have a positive effect i got no problem using them. As mentioned anxiety is damaging both physically and psychically, and depression is in fact something beeing messed up in the brain, and the brain hosts the mind, soooo. Besides, i’m pro altering the mind and body, either trough nutrients, sugars, chemicals, work out or meditation. Whatever is your cup of tea you should be free to do as long as any harm does not fall upon others, imo.
@@fredrikfarkas I agree with your statement but for me personally, it's the maybe yes/no risk evaluation that deters me from antidepressants. But I am a believer that everyone is different and what may work for some won't work for others. God bless
No psychiatric drug can get to the root cause of your anxiety, those drugs are toxic but one of pharmas biggest profit makers, it is not natural for human emotions and feelings to be blunted which is what psych drugs do, ask whoever wants to prescribe the ssri's to show you the test results of your brain and to point out where it ahows a chemical imbalance, physical conditions are diagnosed using tests, scans and other diagnostic tools,
If you want to get to the root cause of anxiety so you can overcome it, look into your childhood or adverse life event, poor mental health usually leads back to childhood and healing requires doing the internal work, all the best
"SSRIs promote re-mylenation". I've done tons of reading about SSRIs, and I have never heard of this. How do they know? Are there studies backing this up?
I mean maybe it's due to my ADHD, but being on an SSRI hasn't affected my ability to feel happy but has overall made me more stable while lessening my suicidal thoughts
SSRI's sure have there side effects as any medication does. Chemotherapy for example is literally design to kill body cells and is hell to go through. It's side effects are insanely unpleasant, but it beats the hell out of dying of cancer. Same thing with SSRI's and other antidepressants. People tend to trivialise the severity of depression, because everybody can relate to being "sad". Depression is a lethal disease and when affected you deserve all the help you can get. SSRI's and Antidepressants are not perfect by a long shot, but they get a bad rep for the invaluable work they do. And sure we don't understand how they work completely, but that doesn't conclude that they are somehow ineffective or don't work. As sad as it is they are one of the most affective treatments against the life threatening disease called depression we have(with the emerging exception of ketamine). And I personally can't stand it when people bad-moth this class of medicine, which already is heavily stigmatised, because for some wicked reason people at large still somehow believe "It's all about mindset".
not using the anti psycotics tonight because of the side effects. Called 113 a year go 3 times its a suicide hotline. One of the biggest side effects of anti psycotics is not the weight gain. but not feelling alive naymore.
It's not that people don't take depression/anxiety seriously, it's that SSRI's don't work. I've tried both Zoloft and Prozac, neither of which helped with my anxiety, OCD, or depression. I felt just as numb happiness wise as before I started. If anything, I just felt less happiness and felt even worse. I felt physically sick and tired on that shit. Atleast Xanax actually gives you a sense of peace and freedom. Xanax is the only thing that has ever worked for me by a long shot.
Before people respond saying how "It isn't for you!! You aren't severe!!" than why the hell does it keep getting prescribed to me as if it will fix all of my problems? You are contributing to the over prescription of a drug that doesn't even work for most of the things it's prescribed for.
Thank you so much for your articulate reply.
@@lextheboogeyman7633 That is so true! It’s being over prescribed, and often without warning of how difficult it can be to wean off again if it doesn’t work for the individual or the side effects are too severe. I’m also really hating how antidepressants are pushed onto pain patients these days all while actual painkillers are treated like the devil. I know people who’ve had their lives destroyed by antidepressants when they weren’t even depressed in the first place but was given antidepressants for pain management.
I’m a chronic pain patient myself and I refuse to touch antidepressants if any kind unless I’m actually depressed and need antidepressants to manage that depression.
Difference. Most chemotherapies are effective. SSRIs mostly are not
What frequently happens when you start with SSRIs is that symtoms like anxiety and suicidal thoughts worsens. Most of the aggravation is linked to the initial phase when starting medication. This mostly subsides after say two to three weeks at least if you dont raise the dose. After that you hopefully get better.
But the patients that doctors should look out for and not treat with SSRIs are those with a history of manic episodes of various kinds. Easy to overlook when treating a depression and then ending up causing mania. Another side effect for some patients is increased impulsivity which of course can lead to not taking care of them selves, to say the least.
I have been on SSRIs for more than a decade for anxiety. Before I was on the meds, I had a whole host of physiological symptoms associated with chronic anxiety (IBS, Panic Attacks, derealization, and many more). These symptoms had been present for years and were worsening. At my worst, I spent at least a portion of every day in the bathroom, doubled over in pain (think 7-9 on a pain scale). A few weeks after starting the SSRIs, not only did my symptoms lessen, but many completely vanished. After being on the meds a few years, I tried to ween myself off of them since they gave me heartburn. I was off of SSRIs for a little over a year. Slowly my old symptoms began to come back. I switched from Zoloft to Lexapro, and once again the physiological symptoms disappeared without any noticeable side affects. It is notable that I have never experienced chronic depression. I have had down periods, like everyone. But these have never lasted more than a week. My use of SSRIs is strictly for anxiety management.
Last studies mentioned in the video about psilocybin stated meds were used for 6 weeks which is not even 2 months. I think it is not fair to conclude results for SSRI before time period of at least 6 months as its best effects are seen after that time period. Earlier in video, it was said SSRI do give some people hard time for first 2 months so it's obvious why it didn't show better results. I also think same could be said for psilocybin, maybe its negative effects shows after a time period just like how SSRI has short term effects when taken at first. Regardless, SSRI surely isn't that effective of a drug but thats all we have atm and hence we use it usually. Its individual experience on how SSRI affect them, some say it helps while others say it doesn't. I hope some more research will help and in meantime stigma regarding mental hardship would ease off.
Severe OCD here, my SSRI has spared me years of misery. And everytime ive tried to fully revert to taking nothing, it's like returning to a nightmare. Point is, do your research and know that not every medication will be designed to serve you without side-effects. That's why continuing to talk with your doctor and specialists is so important.
Just want to add, I don't personally experience any emotional numbness, BUT the sexual side-effects are there. Just gives you an idea of how hellish OCD anxiety is, that i would rather live with the side-effects.
I have bipolar and an SSRI got me out of my worst depression. It took almost a month but I remember I knew it was getting better when I finally heard myself laugh again. It sounded so weird, it had been so long.
Wonderful to hear. This reminded me the first time I realized I could vacuum without extreme stress after a decade of OCD symptoms. I was so happy I cried lol.
@@kitcat2449 Cool!
How does caffeine work on those with ADHD and such, where it has a reverse effect?
@@ravoniesravenshir3926 In my knowledge caffeine raises serotonin levels. With ADHD peeps those levels are too low, so coffee raises them to a semi normal level which can make them feel relaxed and sleepy instead of alert, but others have said caffeine has no effect or it makes their ADHD symptoms worse.
+ I'm pretty sure this coffee thing isn't proven although some fitness sleepiness after drinking it
Crying right now, because I can’t remember the last time I actually laughed. For me a SNRI helped a lot with my depression and I contributed their effect to me finally not hating myself anymore but now still feel so numb and actual joy and laughter are rare.
As someone w ocd, ssris saved my brain so much anxiety. It didn’t get rid of the intrusive thoughts, which I think is a misconception, but prevented me from having knee jerk reactions to them. Maybe I’m more aggressive, but I was definitely pretty aggressive when I thought I was going to die every second
Fear and anger go hand in hand
@@ziggypop8106 agreed