EV Charging and Home Backup With Solar Energy
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- Step by Step installation and testing of a complete home backup and EV charging station powered by solar.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:19 EP800 Installation
03:50 EP800 DC Connections
06:09 EP800 AC Wiring
19:21 Installing Emergency Use Outlet
20:40 Installing Fridge Backup Circuit
22:56 Connecting Solar Panels
28:09 Emporia EV Charger Installation
35:38 Max EV Charging
39:54 Max Solar/ Max Load
43:36 Max Fridge Run Time
46:23 EP800 Cost - Jak na to + styl
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Please post your actual experience with the EP800 below. Thanks!
Excellent video, Dave! Your attention to detail, best-practices, and the code set you apart from most DIY channels. I love that you even included the "oops" moments. I'm happy to say that I learned a few techniques and some products I wasn't previously aware of. Thank you!
Thanks, I'm sure I don't do things perfectly, but I'm always trying to learn and promote the best of what I learn as I go. And yes, I still make some stupid mistakes as I go. 😂
I have installed 2 Emporia EV chargers, and their home electric monitoring system in my house. They've been great.
They are fantastic! I have one on every panel. I like them so much I just ordered one on Amazon and sent it to my dad a few weeks ago, he immediately identified a significant load that was increasing his electric bill. It's paying for itself already. This is the one I sent him: amzn.to/3PF2l32
We sell and install different products, but your installation methods and explanations will make this video required viewing in our shop next week for our installation team and engineers. I'll call it a viewing party and bring in lunch. I can only imagine the amount of time it took to prepare and edit this video. Thank you for this.
Thanks! It took a very long time to film and edit, I'm glad you found it useful.
So cool. I’ll never be able to do this on my own. Haha. I want to build my own solar and battery system but it’s just not in the cards for my brain.
Thank you Dave! I love that the installation looks “beyond professional “.
Once again you nailed the detail and how to pay attention to an efficient layout. Great work. I run Schneider equipment for the long life and tank like power due to the transformer. The emporia monitor is one of the best on the market for determining the load prior to any equipment purchasing. Wish I had that torque screwdriver when building my system, super simple.
Great video, Dave !
A huge amount of work putting
this and the video out.
Great info; I learned a lot !
Loved the electrical ferrules.
Thank You !
Glad it was helpful!
Another nicely done video!
What I see is taking the AC converter out of the EV and do DC fast charging from a battery pack near the EV. The battery pack could be charged off-peak. The battery pack could supply power to the household. Your setup seems a bit complex. Thanks
Great video! I've been looking at the EG4 Pro ESS. Seems like a good option.
I need to get one of those systems set up and try it out for everyone.
Another top-notch video. The way you break things down into chapters and logically explain how different parts of the system work, and how they work with the rest of your home's electrical system, is very easy to understand. The problem I have with this product, is that this is not something the "Everyday" person would choose. This is a VERY expensive product, for what it is, and it locks you into a very expensive ecosystem of proprietary products. This is the antithesis of what I have come to expect from Everyday Dave. It's still a good and useful product, albeit an absolutely horrible value. I hope you don't do many more of these paid advertisements because this is not what I have come to your channel to see.
Thanks for the feedback. There are a lot of these types of systems out there now, and it seemed necessary to try one out. I like to physically prove things out rather than just give my opinion, and that necessitates actually building and testing one. I tried to add value to the video overall with the rest of the system construction.
Thanks!
Never had much luck with daisy chained batteries maybe they have adjusted for the voltage drop during discharge / charging operations.
It's not ideal, but this system has some advantage over the typical 52V setup as the batteries are running at 100V.
A engine lift would come in handy! Even a rental. 😊
I don't think that would reach high enough. : )
@@ProjectsWithDaveover 7 foot? Auto Zone has their lift at 86.61 inches
Really? The top unit is at about 6' feet, that might work well. Nice idea.
Yeah, always double check that the power is off! Shocked myself a few times and that was on a 24 V system, I would hate to do that on anything higher! 🥶🖖
When I'm filming I often jump back and forth between testing and installation. It's easy to forget what I'm doing. I thought people would enjoy seeing me get zapped... : )
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The auto regulating on the emporia charger is so useful! I need that, I'm off grid with only up to 10kw production. Guestion: I have the monitoring system already, do I just need to buy the charger and will everything else just be set up thru the app to regulate the charge speed when an additional load kicks on?
I know, it's a great solution isn't it! The sensors and monitoring portion from your current system will work. That is exactly the same parts that come with the balancing charger. However, you may still have to purchase the load balancing version of the charger. I'm not sure if there is a difference between the standard EV charger and the Load Balancing EV charger hardware. Maybe someone out there has the base version and can answer that question.
Hi Dave, Thank you for the video...I found it helpful. Shouldn't those HV PV wires be in a metallic conduit? I believe the NEC requires this. It looks like an opportunity to improve the safety and compliance of your installation, which otherwise looks very good.
The PV wires are in metal conduit up to the unit. Unfortunately, this system does not have a method for connecting the metal conduit at the inverter so the wires are exposed for a short distance.
Without an iron core, copper wound transformer in this unit, there's no galvanic isolation between the DC boost stage of this low peak power inverter and its AC output. All its going to take is for a MOSFET or IGBT in the H-bridge circuit to short to ground and the AC output monitoring circuit to fail and you can send dangerous high amperage current to your EVs onboard charger which can set your EV on fire. A much safer choice for charging your EV is to use a low frequency, transformer based inverter charger.
I'm using Chinese Eve new lifepo batteries 200Ah capacity 900$ with BMS 150A, was price in China, I'm living in Russia
I'm charging 2 Tesla Model 3 in Russia and now i want charge it from Summer 10-13 A only now can😅 3 kwatt only
Thanks to the Author, but I use Victron.(I cry once while buying equipment) (not sponsored by Victron).(🤭).
I have a Victron system I have been running for more than a year with no issues, you can see the split phase install here: czcams.com/video/ipLRNglTdhg/video.html
Have you tried to turn on/off the EV charger based on state of charge for the batteries. For example i would like my emporia charger to turn on (offer charge) only when SOC is > 90% and shut off if SOC is below 70%. I think you can do it with the monitoring system, but I'm not sure
That's a good idea, but I don't know of a way to do that in the current software. The EV charger only knows the instantaneous loads, it doesn't know the SOC of the battery.
I also use a skateboard to move batteries. 😁
It actually works pretty well, you can turn and everything.
25:15 Dave mixes up his green and blue solar inputs...
Thanks for the comment. I changed the tape part way through the filming process and I can never trust myself not to switch things. That's why I recommend using a meter to check the polarity before connecting the solar inputs.
Great video Dave. About the only thing I disagree with is spruiking that this could "save people money by peak shaving". I think that would only be true in the case of very high electricity rates and very high electricity use. On a simple ROI formula it would take much, much longer than the battery and inverter warranties to come out ahead. If you're doing it for energy security and to replace a diesel generator then that's great but don't do it to save money.
Yes, to clarify, peak shaving may help to recoup some of the cost of the system. As you said it would take some very high rates to justify buying batteries for that reason alone.
You may be able to use your high frequency inverter to charge your EV now, but it's just a matter of time before the MOSFETs or IGBTs in your inverter fail and you can kiss your EV's onboard charger goodbye. A much better and safer choice if you want to charge your EV with solar is to use an inverter or power station that uses low frequency, transformer based technology in its design. Low frequency inverters can handle high surge loads for at least 3x their continuous rated capacity and they can do this repeatedly, without sustaining damages to their MOSFET transistors, for minutes, rather than the milliseconds that a high frequency inverter offers. And because low frequency inverters use a transformer, they provide galvanic isolation which protects your EV's charger. That's why the big name brand inverter manufacturers like Schneider Electric, Outback Power, Sigineer Power, Magnum Energy and Victron Energy and others, all use a low frequency topology in their design.
The biggest advantage with a low frequency inverter is the ability to start large induction loads. As I mentioned in the video, these transformer-less inverters typically can not run large power tools. The toroidal transformer in the split phase 6kVA Victron system I installed in this video can power induction loads with no issues: czcams.com/video/ipLRNglTdhg/video.html
Do you have a link for the reliance breaker box?
You can order it from Bluetti with the rest of the system. Here is a similar version: amzn.to/4afDOd0
Thank you
It's a good system if your given it for free but for everyone else just waay too expensive like double to triple the price of other kit. I'll stick to my Victron and Pylontech which is 9.5kwh battery 6kw AC in/out and up to 11kw of solar for under 5000 bucks
The Victron system is a great system, but may be too complicated for some installers and very few of their inverters are UL listed which may be required for some individuals. You can see my split phase Victron version here: czcams.com/video/6WO44Pa5EwI/video.html
I couldn't resist the pricing and ordered a pallet of solar panels from signature solar. I now have 14 kw of panels and nothing else... What would you do next in my case? using 3400kwh per month now...I need to reduce my usage some too.. are the solar powered hybrid mini splits a good option to reduce power consumption in an easy way by limiting the running of my 2 Central AC units? or better to just get a full system going? I am in Tampa FL My backyard faces south but I live in a HOA
Did you check with your HOA? I recommend designing the whole system and getting permit approval before purchasing your equipment. See this video on permitting: czcams.com/video/imiEYDHLG4A/video.html
If you can I would build a ground array: czcams.com/video/w-iS_8e7n60/video.html
Once you know ground or roof, you can work on what inverter systems to look at.
You can get a growatt or EG4 offgrid inverter, and run it without a battery, or just one battery, and set it in "utility mode" where it uses power from the panels first, and then supplements from the grid. Of course, it sounds easier said, you'll have to move over loads to an essential loads panel. But otherwise, yea some mini splits would be good, assuming your main usage is from AC.
In your 3 year old video about building your own backyard solar array, I noticed you never talked about other cost factors such as the increase of property taxes potentially or the hidden fee for adding solar that the local power company will try to add to your bill. You never talked about the headache of installing your system or as with any puzzle if one piece is missing then the whole project is a failure. You also have to factor in any savings that you get from the power you also have to set aside some of that money to replace the battery and solar panel for whenever it decides to die orwin knew better efficient solar panels come out and you want to replace them with the old ones and then factor in the cost of selling the old ones. I don't know but I am assuming that old batteries and old solar panels are going to get a very low return such as buying a used car
You also didn't compare the difference between putting down $20,000 to say the stock market and seeing the return over 25 years compared to the savings of solar panels and being -20,000 and trying to recoup for the first 5 to 10 years only to make a savings in the next 10. I want to go solar myself but the numbers just don't make sense right now I don't think. I'm not sure why you had to go to Japan because you could have seen the prime minister in Raleigh North Carolina today eating barbecue, wow Governor Roy Cooper puts on his lipsticks to kiss his ass
I created a calculator to compare a typical investment with installing solar. You can see that video here: czcams.com/video/YjKPHuc8T38/video.html
Buy a more efficient fridge.
It's more a matter of the number of people opening and closing it... : )
@@ProjectsWithDave
i do not agree with you there
Neat but for £19,000 I don't think the cost is worth it over a self made system. I can get a 20kw totally kitted out solar set with nearly 20KW of solar and storage for that price with a 12kw 3 phase inverter.
I get there's a market for these, same as Ecoflow's batteries but they aren't anywhere as cheap as they really need to be to actually provide value for anyone who can follow simple instructions in how to wire up electricals.
It's a well established fact that high frequency, transformerless inverters that lack an iron core, copper wound transformer to provide galvanic isolation between the DC boost stage of these inverters and their AC output can severely damage an EV's onboard charger and void their warranty. I would never plug my EV into one of these high frequency Bluetti inverters.
Do you have a source for your information?
@@ProjectsWithDave I have 24 years of experience operating a factory authorized inverter repair facility, repairing both high frequency and low frequency inverters. So I'm speaking from experience. If you would like a more detailed explanation then please watch: czcams.com/video/tp5oDbu6kRQ/video.htmlsi=m0NEM8EcI7qjPPKH
Thanks for the additional information. When repairing inverters, what was the most common failure you encountered for each type of inverter? Were there some brands that had more failures than others? Thanks!
@@ProjectsWithDaveThis person writes the same comments on all videos. When they get your attention, they start to promote an inverter from China. I would ignore them.
Jesus. What kind of fridge you have? Mine uses 500wh per day. I guess europe ones are more efficient.
Maybe you don't have kids opening it every 15 min? : )
pmme
Might look nice but a total rip off, I got way more for way less!
Typically the more DIY you go, the more you can save.
Very annoying bip sounds the rest is good
Ha ha, yea, I guess there were a lot of torqued fasteners... sorry about that.
Bluetti is garbage warranty, I've heard nothing but horrible things about their customer service... they just won't honor your warranty and if you stick it out it'll take 3 to 6 months of dragging it out. Bad bad company. Would I take a free 20 kW hour battery make a video? Maybe... But it's kind of selling out your viewers do not inform them of the customer service and quality issues. Do your research on the company
Have you had personal experience with the warranty service?
Rather than complain vociferously without any actual facts, maybe you could share your own experience with the rest of us. If you have no experience, then it would be good to understand where you have “heard” all of the terrible things you describe. The point is that none of us know you and therefore do not care one bit about your conclusions unless we understand how you arrived at them.
I had a warranty issue with a AC180 and Bluetti replaced immediately.
@@rodbhar6522 - you will notice that since blowtorching Bluetti with no facts, CessnaPilot99 has vanished. I am really tired of opinionated loudmouths who won’t, or can’t, engage in a fact-based and reasoned discussion. Thank you for sharing your conclusion based on actual experience.
Another good DIY channel selling out. Channel permanently blocked.
Bluetti is garbage, I've heard nothing but horrible things about their customer service... they just won't service your warranty it'll take 3 to 6 months of dragging it out. Horrible
@restotool
I am always on a path to expand my experience and understanding of a broad variety of equipment and tools so I can base my judgements on actual experience. My goal is to show as many creative ideas and solutions as possible even when reviewing various products. Rather than directly promoting a product, I endeavor to show actual data on my channel so you can make the best decision for you. Hopefully, even if you are not a fan of Bluetti products, the other content such as the load balancing EV charging solution was of value.
God forbid a DIY channel works with the vendors who make the products that work well for them, right? You work for free restotool, or are you just entirely full of crap?
@@FuncleChuck Hey, you wanna be a fanboy you go right ahead and keep watching. Even if I could stop you I wouldn't try. You have your opinion, I have mine. The CZcams platform from top to bottom has become completely unethical and corrupt. So many manufacturers are employing questionable and even unethical means to get their products on CZcams and keep them there. Of course, channel operators are taking the money and free swag hand over fist. Again, you want to support this terrible behavior, nobody will stop you. But I will not support anymore channels that can't or refuse to recognize this.
Now, if these channels actually paid for the products and could give a TRULY honest and unbiased review...that is something I could support. Unfortunately, that is not the way it is in the slightest. Often these channels will blow smoke up your xxxx and say they have complete editorial discretion. Sometimes they actually might, but even then, they are so afraid of alienating a manufacturer and possibly being blacklisted by one or more. Hence, the full truth is often obscured at best and completely omitted at worst. That is no way for a reviewer to present products to the public.
Sarcasm alert. Come on, Dave! Those faceplate screws should be vertical. Unsubscribed!
😂At least they are aligned. But maybe vertical is better than horizontal.
@@ProjectsWithDave I do appreciate that you aligned them. That was a little joke from a home improvement CZcamsr (suddenly cannot remember which one, as I love several of them, I think LearnToDIY, but not sure). He did an informal poll in his chat about "team vertical" or "team horizontal".
Nice! The important things in life. 😀 I presume the result was vertical? By what margin?
@@ProjectsWithDave The result WAS vertical, but no percentages reported.
how about giving the cost break down instead of talking for ever endlessly