I think the only big thing about this revision is the 5V charging, you said in the video that a powerbank with 5V output can be used to charge the device. This is actually pretty big, because it enables the device to get charged from more sources, basically every power bank and power adapter ever existed. Or just hook up a really long lasting power bank and use the device for a long period of time in addition to the battery life. I hope they keep this for the Win Max
You should try emulators like PCSX2 since that one is very CPU bound and the 8100y could be a massive improvement. Basically: If you want a Win for PC games - get the 7y30 version If you want it for emulators - get the 8100y version
Pretty much. I could see certain PS2 games performing better, but really, not by a whole lot. In the totality of things, the 7Y30 seems to get the job done.
Also the SoC is never designed for gaming in mind, more for like on the go office stuff. At least the upgrade is better than what... like celeron n4100 or pentium 3965Y that kinda soc
From my experience with my 8100y win 2, make sure you use the older pcsx2 1.4 version cuz for some reason games like god of war are very laggy in the new 1.6 update
The 7Y30 is the best, the 8100Y was used later to reduce costs, it was cheaper than the original that's also why they took away the vibration. Basically the 7Y30 is the version of IndieGoGo that is the best
This *might* help a bit with certain PS2 and GameCube emulation scenarios, but outside of that, you're right, we aren't really getting anything ground-breaking gains for general gaming.
Have you ever considered doing a source Film maker test? I think it would make a very interesting rest to do, you can also install the meet the heavy film to test how fast the gpd win can render the project.
I'm going to also do a review on my GPD, I have the Win 2 7Y30 model. I modded my GPD's Allocation memory and ended up with 2800MB Dedicated Video Memory. Now it plays GTA 5 and Need For Speed Payback Flawlessly on High Graphics. These machines are the future of portable gaming, don't think anything else can come close to it, not even an Alienware laptop.
@@SirTripps Yes. So even tho alot of people buy switch. With the people buying GPD Win almost 3 times the price of a Switch, they are basically earning alot of profit even if it's a smaller company.
Watched this without the audio, but just skimming through it, the difference seems marginal. Glad to see this comparison, I don't feel the need to make the jump.
The weird thing is that I'm more interested in the supposed better motherboard design to reduce heat, as well as that a2 sd card support. 1tb in the sd and 2 tb in the ssd with the new kingspec? Would be so awesome.
The 8100Y seems to be performing worse than the 7y30. Intel has the worst integrated graphics. I'd like to see the GPD win 2 max performance. amd's APUs are better than intel's which everyone is looking forward to see.
I just got the new Win 2, while it's definitely better than the original (except for not having rumble), like you said, it isn't a drastic or that noticeable of an upgrade
Hi mate, appreciate if you can reply. I wanted to buy one of these little guys but can't decide between Win 2 and Micro PC. Can Celeron N4100 go head to head with m3-8100Y? I do game sometimes but really don't like not having track pad on Win 2. Micro PC has track pad, backlit keyboard and lots of I/O which I really love. Thanks
Intel are not shipping the older gen Core m processor, so GPD have to make a so-called upgrade version. One question,why new one still have same black & white top panel？Which is awful design.
@The Phawx great video, this is an sintetic bench, its not about the tdp, i think the real think is bench games that requieres more cpu power like assasin creed origins or odissey or like that, 8100Y is core base clocked at 1,600 mhz, the turbo boost only push to 3,400 mhz with heavy cpu games or it keep in 1.600 mhz, thats the different of your bench, only benching real games scenarios at 7 watt we can see the diferrent betten the 8100y and 7y30, thanks for the video......also dolphin is not a great bench........
Any info if gpd will be releasing a glossy back cover for the WIN2? I really hate that customizable plastic plate they've released as i feel it always looked cheap with it. It was a doomed gimmick from the start.
@@godhero2566 Thank you for the help. I feel bad that phawx doesn't answer. Okay so it will compete with Smach Z. I am hoping for something really good hopefully a little smaller than the GPD Max netbook.
Wrap this thing with a proper skin then you will get a nice decent looking device. I always dream of wrapping it with a glossy black skin then put a small chrome coloured Surface logo on it just to emphasise it’s running a full blown windows but my wallet says otherwise
this isnt a win 3 its just a hardware revision. the win 2 max is insainly more powerful than the win 2 using a ryzen cpu. its just down to size. would you rather have a smaller more compact weaker machine or a more powerful one that is much bigger and not as compact (its about switch size)
Did they not update the intel HD 610 to a UHD 615? i swear i keep seeing that some places and I want to make sure I get a model with the (even slightly) better graphics.
@@Avioto that's the dpad membrane to be fair. Changing the dpad to a Vita dpad won't change the mushyness. You can always mod the existing 3ds style dpad by replacing the membrane with a 3ds membrane off eBay. Not ideal I know, but it is an option :)
the 8100y turbo frequency is 3.4ghz max which is alot better than the 7y30 in ONLINE mmos,looter shooters, battle royales or any other game that is poorly optimised. Uniengine wont show this but it is an important factor when deciding if and what you want a GPD win 2 for. For example if you want to play retail WoW or classic WoW then the 8100y is a better option.
The right speaker on my GPD Win 2 8100y doesn’t work. I don’t think it’s a software thing since neither Win 10 or Manjaro play audio on the right speaker. Any help you can give me to fix it is greatly appreciated.
Hi I didnt know where to post this. My Win 2 has been upgraded to a 1tb m.2 ssd. Recently I've noticed the fan working harder and the battery cutting off at around 50% usage. Is there anything in bios or windows (like a setting or something) that I could tweak to stop this? Or is it a case I have a faulty ssd?
Excuse me.. I've listened your video but I don't understand English so much so I want to ask you in this message, so I understand much better your english, is it worth to buy the m3-8100y version or there is no much differences between them? Than you in advance
It easily would. This is something you can look up based on benchmarks. Probably in the next week we'll be seeing detailed benchmarks from the Smach Z in particular since early backers are finally getting theirs.
hi.. can u please tell me if my mouse/gamepad switch is broken? either if i switch it to mouse or gamepad, the right analog stick and triggers have the same function, no changes. is the right analog stick aupposed to stop working as a mouse when i switched to gamepad mode? ty
they released a new picture of the chassis open it looks good. full size keyboard and an actual trackpad in between the thumbsticks where the gpd logo use to be.
@@Luke-qs2cg What options, name them ? ARM is out of the question, because it can't run x86-x64 programs natively. Nvidia M150 graphics and others use too much power. They are going to make one computer with an AMD processor, but it's going to be much bigger and even have 2 fans to cool it. There is nothing for something this small.
I'm really excited for the Win 3. Can't wait for your video on it.
Seems like that will work even worse than the first gen if we go by this video .
I think the only big thing about this revision is the 5V charging, you said in the video that a powerbank with 5V output can be used to charge the device. This is actually pretty big, because it enables the device to get charged from more sources, basically every power bank and power adapter ever existed. Or just hook up a really long lasting power bank and use the device for a long period of time in addition to the battery life.
I hope they keep this for the Win Max
Guess i'll wait for the Gpd Win Max 🤔
Yo. Max is bigger version. It's tablet size. So its not pocket size. I'll be waiting for GPD Win 3 because they said it would be pocket size
@@godhero2566 big package in tiny form
@@godhero2566 i wil' wait for gpd win 3 or max the gpd win 2 will cheaper
@@godhero2566 when will the GPD Win3 come out?
@@jack94123 No one knows including the company itself I hope its on 2022 tho
You should try emulators like PCSX2 since that one is very CPU bound and the 8100y could be a massive improvement.
Basically:
If you want a Win for PC games - get the 7y30 version
If you want it for emulators - get the 8100y version
Pretty much. I could see certain PS2 games performing better, but really, not by a whole lot. In the totality of things, the 7Y30 seems to get the job done.
Also the SoC is never designed for gaming in mind, more for like on the go office stuff. At least the upgrade is better than what... like celeron n4100 or pentium 3965Y that kinda soc
Hmmm if i want to PC games AND EMULATORS? :((( i dont want to have both because my Wallet will cryyyyy :’,’(
8100y have better clocks so in emulator you will get better fps, 7y30 have lower clocks but it have Little better performance In Windows games
From my experience with my 8100y win 2, make sure you use the older pcsx2 1.4 version cuz for some reason games like god of war are very laggy in the new 1.6 update
Finally, I search like this video. Ty from Russia
The 7Y30 is the best, the 8100Y was used later to reduce costs, it was cheaper than the original
that's also why they took away the vibration. Basically the 7Y30 is the version of IndieGoGo that is the best
personally I'd consider removing vibration a better call, this thing isn't exactly rugged, the less the interior gets bothered the better
This *might* help a bit with certain PS2 and GameCube emulation scenarios, but outside of that, you're right, we aren't really getting anything ground-breaking gains for general gaming.
Have you ever considered doing a source Film maker test? I think it would make a very interesting rest to do, you can also install the meet the heavy film to test how fast the gpd win can render the project.
I'm going to also do a review on my GPD, I have the Win 2 7Y30 model. I modded my GPD's Allocation memory and ended up with 2800MB Dedicated Video Memory. Now it plays GTA 5 and Need For Speed Payback Flawlessly on High Graphics. These machines are the future of portable gaming, don't think anything else can come close to it, not even an Alienware laptop.
How did you mod the allocation memory?
WOW! Can u make gameplay of GTA V on this mod? And how you do this? Please Bro
Lier
One World Nation I will sub if you make a video on how to do it
It is possible :D
I just wish it wasn't so expensive, and actually had future support
Too bad, gpd is a small company they can’t mass product these thing so it can’t be cheap...
@@NamelessPassenger Except it is mass produced.
@@SirTripps Not as mass as Switch does
@@godhero2566 Well obviously, nintendo has been around for decades longer than GPD and is a much bigger company.
@@SirTripps Yes. So even tho alot of people buy switch. With the people buying GPD Win almost 3 times the price of a Switch, they are basically earning alot of profit even if it's a smaller company.
It looks like the difference in most cases is negligible. So either model would do and then it's just a case of getting a cooling mod lmao
Good luck getting the cooling mod
Feels good being in the first 400 still waiting for that cooling mod that should have arrived maybe next monday a long time ago.
😂 Truth
So helpful. Appreciate the unbiased review. Will keep current gen win2 and pick up max instead.
I might buy one in 2023 still want one
the screen looks brighter on the new one
That's because the older one has blue screen filter enabled.
I was hoping for that video.
But I think I‘m waiting for the win 3/ max
+1. It will be a beast. I will buy it if it will cost same 800 dollars
NONE onemix is also going to release a gaming device, the onegx
@@Berd95 Expect it to be a Win Max clone.
@@Berd95 wow. It's a great news for us, consumers. Also, Smach Z (but I don't like them)
NONE the concept of the smach is good. But as much as I would like to buy it, I just can‘t trust them
Watched this without the audio, but just skimming through it, the difference seems marginal. Glad to see this comparison, I don't feel the need to make the jump.
The weird thing is that I'm more interested in the supposed better motherboard design to reduce heat, as well as that a2 sd card support.
1tb in the sd and 2 tb in the ssd with the new kingspec? Would be so awesome.
1tb sd card is expensive af right now nearly as much as the gpd win itself
The 8100Y seems to be performing worse than the 7y30. Intel has the worst integrated graphics. I'd like to see the GPD win 2 max performance. amd's APUs are better than intel's which everyone is looking forward to see.
They are using AMD chips, did you see the leaks in the discord server?
@@darkmewtwovoid I did, but I'd love to see more! 😁
@@darkmewtwovoid who is using AMD chips?
@@yotoprules9361 GPD
And smach z
why is the bios locked on 8100y version and how do i unlock it
:O it's new version of GPD WIN 2
Very good coverage! Thanks Phawx!
What about pictures of disassembled m3-8100y version? It'd be nice to see what changes they made
I have a motherboard from 2018 with the 8100y. So I don't have the ability to show you differences
I just got the new Win 2, while it's definitely better than the original (except for not having rumble), like you said, it isn't a drastic or that noticeable of an upgrade
@7ristanトリスタン You mean the Win 1 or the first Win 2. Bc the Win 2 runs last gen AAA games great
Hi mate, appreciate if you can reply. I wanted to buy one of these little guys but can't decide between Win 2 and Micro PC. Can Celeron N4100 go head to head with m3-8100Y? I do game sometimes but really don't like not having track pad on Win 2. Micro PC has track pad, backlit keyboard and lots of I/O which I really love. Thanks
Thank you for indepth comparison!
Intel are not shipping the older gen Core m processor, so GPD have to make a so-called upgrade version. One question,why new one still have same black & white top panel？Which is awful design.
@The Phawx
great video, this is an sintetic bench, its not about the tdp, i think the real think is bench games that requieres more cpu power like assasin creed origins or odissey or like that, 8100Y is core base clocked at 1,600 mhz, the turbo boost only push to 3,400 mhz with heavy cpu games or it keep in 1.600 mhz, thats the different of your bench, only benching real games scenarios at 7 watt we can see the diferrent betten the 8100y and 7y30, thanks for the video......also dolphin is not a great bench........
My Win2 shell rotted out, after 3 years of use, but I bought a replacement shell and it still runs like new, (but what a pain to swap it out).
Awesome Comparison.
Any info if gpd will be releasing a glossy back cover for the WIN2? I really hate that customizable plastic plate they've released as i feel it always looked cheap with it. It was a doomed gimmick from the start.
Totally of topic,but any release date for the win max
I just want a phone size device that allows me to play 2 youtube videos at the same time. Phones stopped doing this.
Fortunately I can charge my PD power pack with my 5V large power pack.
I am hoping mine has the new revision fingers crossed
Good luck getting the heatsink from indiegogo. People have been waiting almost a year.
makes me wonder why the better cooling isnt standard
Good video, need this one
Phawx will there still be a win max? aka GPD Win 3? Thanks and another great video.
Yeah. Max is a bigger version of GPD Win 2 with Vega 8 graphics. GPD Win 3 probably should have the same as GPD Win 2 but better specs.
@@godhero2566 Thank you for the help. I feel bad that phawx doesn't answer. Okay so it will compete with Smach Z. I am hoping for something really good hopefully a little smaller than the GPD Max netbook.
Thanks for the video! Which Version of UTX are u using?
7y30 better when 8100y
Then*
@@UltraAhmetDoray than*
@@Timblesink oh yeah 😅
the 8100Y is better
If you have any arma games, could test them on both? That series of games is highly cpu dependent.
Cual es mejor?
aight aight aight. can someone mod this thing with a trackball in the place of that right analogue stick, please?
Wrap this thing with a proper skin then you will get a nice decent looking device. I always dream of wrapping it with a glossy black skin then put a small chrome coloured Surface logo on it just to emphasise it’s running a full blown windows but my wallet says otherwise
I wonder which to get. Win 3 or Win Max. I have to see on the size n performance btwn these 2
this isnt a win 3 its just a hardware revision. the win 2 max is insainly more powerful than the win 2 using a ryzen cpu. its just down to size. would you rather have a smaller more compact weaker machine or a more powerful one that is much bigger and not as compact (its about switch size)
zZBuild ProneZz
Is it Switch sized with or without the joy-con attached (in terms of measured dimensions).
Did they not update the intel HD 610 to a UHD 615? i swear i keep seeing that some places and I want to make sure I get a model with the (even slightly) better graphics.
I was kinda hoping they had fixed the d-pad. Oh well, judging from the recent leak the new GPD Win has a Vita d-pad, so I'll wait for that.
What don't you like about the dpad? It uses a 3ds dpad doesn't it?
@@studioviper3016 It's mushy and sometimes doesn't register button presses correctly. 3DS d-pad is much better imo.
@@Avioto that's the dpad membrane to be fair. Changing the dpad to a Vita dpad won't change the mushyness. You can always mod the existing 3ds style dpad by replacing the membrane with a 3ds membrane off eBay. Not ideal I know, but it is an option :)
@@studioviper3016 I'm way too scared to do that haha! I hope they fix the membrane then.
So I only need to get the Cooling Mod :)
If I'm a first time buyer right now, which one is better to get?
Also if you have any links of the best seller.
Thanks :)
Screen flixers like crazy - it will make your eyes leak
MegaBlackJoe thats just the camera
Can you review the bittboy pocket go, and LDK landscape
the 8100y turbo frequency is 3.4ghz max which is alot better than the 7y30 in ONLINE mmos,looter shooters, battle royales or any other game that is poorly optimised. Uniengine wont show this but it is an important factor when deciding if and what you want a GPD win 2 for. For example if you want to play retail WoW or classic WoW then the 8100y is a better option.
Phawx, how's the situation with temperature in newer version of console? Is there really any improvement?
The right speaker on my GPD Win 2 8100y doesn’t work. I don’t think it’s a software thing since neither Win 10 or Manjaro play audio on the right speaker. Any help you can give me to fix it is greatly appreciated.
Put water in the speaker
Where do you reckon they would sell these new 2019 July revised models?
But can it play DOOM?!
I’m wondering if I should get the 3rd party cooling mod since I have the 8100 version????
yes.. because you cant run it at 14 watts TDP without it
Hi
I didnt know where to post this. My Win 2 has been upgraded to a 1tb m.2 ssd. Recently I've noticed the fan working harder and the battery cutting off at around 50% usage. Is there anything in bios or windows (like a setting or something) that I could tweak to stop this? Or is it a case I have a faulty ssd?
i’ll just wait for gpd win max
Excuse me.. I've listened your video but I don't understand English so much so I want to ask you in this message, so I understand much better your english, is it worth to buy the m3-8100y version or there is no much differences between them? Than you in advance
Performance wise, there is no difference. The quality of the device is better.
@@ThePhawx what do you mean by quality?... I make an example : if I run fallout 4 in both of them I can show any difference in terms of fps?
Uunnddeerraatttted content bro....
Is that dual channel? Ram
How would a chip like the Ryzen R1606G at let's say 12-15W fare against the 7Y30 at the same power?
Does Vega 3 beat Intel HD 615?
It easily would. This is something you can look up based on benchmarks. Probably in the next week we'll be seeing detailed benchmarks from the Smach Z in particular since early backers are finally getting theirs.
Do you have any information on how to contact the owner of the Indiegogo page for the cooling mod? All emails to his Indiegogo page go unanswered.
The owner is on my GPD discord. Let me know if you need an invite
Looks like every one of your guesses were wrong @The Phawx
what software did you use to change the tdp?
Is it worth getting the cooling mod for the 8100Y even if the bios is locked ?
too long to wait for gpd win 3
I will just get the gdp win 2 now and sell it to my friend who is a big dope! Use the money I got and get the gdp 3 when it comes out!
@@SOSAXP7 you're a friend everyone needs
LOL!! 🤣
hi.. can u please tell me if my mouse/gamepad switch is broken? either if i switch it to mouse or gamepad, the right analog stick and triggers have the same function, no changes. is the right analog stick aupposed to stop working as a mouse when i switched to gamepad mode? ty
Is battery interchangeable between these two ?
but if you play games with 15W, the battery ends nearly 2 hours. Battarie eater
Is the GPD win 2 worth getting for ps2 games, wii games and GameCube games ??
Yes
Wait there is a new version?
so wich one should i get?
Honestly I just wish that they would improve the d pad. Clickable joysticks would be good but just the dpad would make my day.
I am waiting for GPD Win 2 MAX with the improved damn joysticks and Ryzen APU as we ALWAYS freaking wanted, finally they deliver.
Get ready to wait over a year then
they released a new picture of the chassis open it looks good. full size keyboard and an actual trackpad in between the thumbsticks where the gpd logo use to be.
@@Crazelord91 The IGG should start sometime in the Fall with deliveries in December.
@@AnTran147 Where'd you get that info? And if it's anything like the Win 2 there will be 6 months between the igg and shipping
Why doesn't Intel use a better gpu with this?
New better Intel GPUs should come out in 2020.
Hi,
How to set two monitors on gpd win 2 ?
it has micro hdmi and usb c video out. right click on the desktop and click screen resolution if you need to change or detect monitors.
Gpd 8100 version best perfect👍
They need to move away from Intel's super low power platform. It simply doesn't perform what the pricetag would suggest.
They have no other option, because you can't cool and power more power hungry processors in such small device.
But there ARE options aside from what's being used.
@@Luke-qs2cg What options, name them ? ARM is out of the question, because it can't run x86-x64 programs natively. Nvidia M150 graphics and others use too much power. They are going to make one computer with an AMD processor, but it's going to be much bigger and even have 2 fans to cool it. There is nothing for something this small.
@@Luke-qs2cg no options, the only options its i7 with iris pro graphic 655 but use too much power.....
Waste of money
Give me a heart!!
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