Why Senator Xiono is EVEN WORSE Than You Think!
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- čas přidán 1. 10. 2023
- Senator Xiono has only had two scenes in Ahsoka and he's already a royal pain in the butt. The character was first created for Star Wars Resistance, and those appearances provide some extra insight into who he really is.
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This guy is the Star Wars version of Cornelius Fudge. As soon as Thrawn returns, “HES BACK!”.
I hate that this is the most accurate comparison I've seen for Xiono. I've seen people compare him to Fey'lya, which isn't entirely wrong, but Fey'lya was way more competent than Xiono.
Or the canon version of Borsk Fey'lya
He reminds me more of Umbridge. So focused on the rules, that he can’t see he’s part of the problem.
@@STRAKAZulu
*he
And Umbridge was in league with the Death Eaters indirectly she was never in denial.
@@jord839 Ive been saying since TFA that the New Republic is like the Ministry of Magic in every way. Even Mon Mothma is to blame for its downfall by striping down the military.
Xiono was clearly written to be an antagonist character and when such a character is so easily hateable by fans, you know the actor portraying them is doing a great job!
The actor isn't doing a great job there doing a fantastic job.
It bothers me that even after Ahmed Best, Hayden Christiansen, etc… that we STILL have to remind people to separate the actor from the character.
Do you hate a villain? Love a hero? Good! The ACTOR has done their job!
Exactly.
Agreed, in fact I thought Nelson Lee did a great job with the character. This is similar with halo. I hated del Rio but I like the actor that plays him!
The fact people can't separate reality from fiction is a plague like people saying Steven King is OK with Underage because he wrote it in a book or GRRM and Cest.
exactly
I agree, the actor is doing a great job if you hate Xiono. I think the reason the actor is facing unwarranted hate is because he is playing an "everyday" villain. He isn't a force welding sith or a space nazi that blows up planets, Xiono is a corrupt politician and I think some of the fans are seeing him as too real and close to home and thus having trouble separating the actor from the role. Xiono is a much more interesting antagonist because he is someone the hero can't just shoot at, there isn't anyway to get rid of him
I think there needs to be more room for complacent bureaucrats and the damage that they do, without being compromised. I hope he is what he appears to be.
I'd say he's worst, it seems like he's working with imperial remnants to increase profits
Borsk Fey'lya sounds right up your alley then.
He appears to be a self righteous balloon head with delusions of an IQ above a can of floor wax!
I also think this would be nice. People can be bad people both from bad actions and from inaction.
Given the parallels between Filoni-verse and the Thrawn trilogy, there are strong parallels between Xiono and Borsk Fey'la. With this in mind, I prefer to think that he is NOT in league with the empire, because one of the big plot thread with Fey'la was that everyone suspected he was a spy when he was actually just a very selfish bastard, and I found this twist very interesting.
Man but the Delta Source reveal was so cool. Would love to see a canon interpretation of that.
Senator Xiono looking like Alan from Generation Tech.
Oh my god 😂
Savage lmao
Alan's allegiance is to the republic, to democracy! 😂
I made a tweet about this exact issue. Hamato is just the type of character you want out of the picture, but he retains his position anyway.
Bingo.
Senator Xiono, like the sound I make when he appears on my TV. “OHH NOO” 🤦🏻♂️
Him and Perrin were definitely bros.
I hope Xiono gets knee-capped by Chopper 😂
Given Hera's line about staying out of the Galactic Civil War it seems like he WANTS to be a pacifist. Employing a "idfaf who's in charge as long as my family lives". His reaction to Hera, Leia and Kaz may show he blames them for provoking Thrawn/ Snoke. As if to say "the galaxy would be safe if you had JUST listened to me". Which is a HORRIBLE line of thinking and leads to regimes like Palpatine rising in the first place
I feel like Filoni and the others are building up to the moment where the New Republic moves their seat of government.
Maybe in Filoni’s Heir to the Empire we’ll see a new version of the Siege of Coruscant from the original Thrawn books and that will be the basis for Xiono’s argument for moving the capital?
Could be very interesting to see.
This is the same thought I have especially with the heavy presence of coruscant throughout both Mando S3 and Ahsoka leading to the tragedy when it would face the same devastation as it did in legends from Thrawn trilogy so maybe after the Thrawn Camapign failed like it did in the trilogy this devastation may result in criminal gangs rise up and taking over the upper levels which resulted in the New republic moved to a different capital or Hosnian Prime?
Leia’s convo with Poe in an early ep of Resistance about Senators profiting from First Order weapon sales always felt A LOT like it was foreshadowing Xiono’s allegiances.
That Hamato Xiono was a traitor was never outright stated in Star Wars:Resistance. Although the fact that despite being a Hosnian senator, he and his entire family were not on the planet when it was blown up makes us suspicious.
The Senator was in league with the First Order the fact that he was off-world when the attack happened in Star Wars Resistance was all we needed to see to make that clear.
If Resistance had been a hit and lasted more than two season, I suspect they had the groundwork laid to explore that later on.
Why are you repeating what the video says?
@@lucasluna1699 Actually, I made this comment long before (like weeks) before video
@@burningflamesofdivinedragon You know, the Imperial Senator for Alderaan happened to be off world when that planet was destroyed. For those who didn't know she was actually an Imperial prisoner at the time, would they assume she was loyal to the Empire?
Watching Ahsoka with my parents, they both said "he's definitely a spy." I had to break the news that, no, he's not a spy, just a useful idiot.
I can't believe they brought him back. I wasn't expecting any mention of Resistance so soon and I'm so happy.
The concept of "my parent is a senator who betrayed the republic and I'm a resistance fighter on the other side" is actually a really interesting set up that would be a new flavour to the parent/child dynamics Star Wars often explores.
We've seen parents revealed as Sith Lords, we've seen kids revealed as dark siders, we've seen kids with good senators for parents. The idea of a character actually fighting as a rebel and confronting their parent who they know betrayed the republic would be so interesting.
It may sound similar to Luke and Vader, but Luke had no real relationship with his father before he discovered who he really was. If the parent and child actually had a prior established relationship it would hold way more weight.
He’s gotta be an imperial sympathizer or something.
Kazuda Xiono: I wanted to join the Resistance.
Hera Syndulla: Interesting (Remembering the times Hamato Xiono was an irritating rival during the New Republic Era).
It’s a relief Kaz isn’t anything like him
Very true. The dad is a man-child, not Kaz.
It would be funny if Senator Xiono got dope slapped at some point.
Can join with Nolan from Bad Batch as SW characters that are just so loathesome that you cant even like them ironically.
Nolan was a sociopath, this guy is just a typical slimy politician.
I can't believe that last part is necessary to say... insane that we're living in a time where people can no longer separate fictional characters from the actors who portray them in media
Enjoyed your coverage of this character and good on you for differentiating the actor and character. The fact that everyone dislikes xiono means nelson lee is doing a great job. Well said.
A character we love to hate a rare breed and very difficult to pull off but secretly love it when they survive and we know they will be back to be the foil for the hero to beat again and again learning and improving each time
I wonder if he's supposed to be a sort of Borsk Feyla analog for the redone Thrawn trilogy.
Probably. Especially since canon for some reason doesn't ever want to show us Bothans
This appears to be the case.
At the end of the day Hera really hit it on the head. “Sit back and wait to see who comes out on top”.
I like that Xiono is kinda a stand in for Borsk Fey'lya from the Thrawn Trilogy. Fulfilling the same role as the maybe evil but probably just ignorant senator that stands in the way of the hero's accomplishing their goals by bogging them down in the Political maneuvering that comes with the republic senate.
Mr. Lee is really talented he made Senator Xiono very hateful. Keep up the great work this video was fantastic.
I think the Senators just don’t want to believe that another threat is coming since they just finished defeating the Galactic Empire at Jakku and now that they learned Moff Gideon’s dead, it’s all the more reason for them to just stay in their capital and pretend they’re in a peaceful era when in reality it’s not the case since Thrawn is returning.
I love Star Wars Resistance SO MUCH and I’m so glad Filoni has included a character from there, even if it’s Xiono. CB23 is my favorite droid and I really hope we see some more live action SWR characters in the future!
Its not just that he survived that is suspicious. Its that he conveniently took HIS ENTIRE FAMILY off world before its destruction.
the fact that xiono was off world when hosnian was destroyed seem fishy to me
I have the same impression, having see Resistance. How fortunate just him and his family were out worl during attack. And the idea gain force seeing hem hoppose whit such force to Hera.
We already know Imperial sympathisers are everion, as they were during the ascension of Palpatine
I said this on a different creator's page but I wouldn't be surprised if he is partly responsible for Leia getting removed as a senator for the new republic because of her "Connection" to Vader.
Good call on that one because it's probably true.
YOU GUYS ARE SO CLOSE TO 1 MILL LETS GOOOOO
Makes you wonder how Kazuda turned out to be a good man when he was the complete opposite of his father.
Probably because he kept Kaz so isolated and the fact that Kaz was so good at hitting the books. Kaz was way more knowledgable then his dad when it came to politics.
@@burningflamesofdivinedragon Father of the year that one, I surprised he maintained any communication with Xiono at all!
Great video!
If we see Xiono in the New Jedi Order Era, I think he may meet a similar fate as Borsk Feyl'ya in Legends, wherr his hubris and greed result in his downfall.
Do you really think the Yuuzhan Vong would've been prevented from taking Coruscant with a more competent Chief of State? The Vong seemed pretty unstoppable at that point of the war.
He's definitely the "Borsk Fey'lya" of Disney canon.
I've heard that around a lot lately good call.
Another amazing video
Thank you for this video.
While his survival is suspicious, I think he's meant to represent the war weary apathetic contingent of the Senate rather than the collaborators.
I totally forgot about his appearance after the destruction of Hosnian Prime.
It makes sense he is a double agent, it would explain why the new republic would not learn from the return of thrawn unless thrawn does no damage
I haven’t watched Resistance, so all I have to go on is what’s been shown in the Ahsoka series, but I’ve felt since the beginning of this series that Xiono is likely in league with the Imperial Remnant. He protests against its existence harder than a normal, neutral party would lol
Best case scenario, he as an aide who was a former Imperial that like Elia Kane who's "reformed" but actually is still working for the Imperial Remnant. But they are able to manipulate the senator with useful information that gains them power/prestige in the Senate and ultimately are unwittingly supporting them at least initially. Then when the rug gets pulled they discover how deep they are in with the enemy they end up keeping in line for survival.
Thank you for this. I been saying since Resistance came out that Xiono was a sympathizer or collaborator, his portrayal here absolutely reinforces that. While not said outright, it was heavily implied back in Resistance. I mean c'mon, the guy who is adamantly denying the First Order's threat and trashing the resistance conveniently was off world from the system he's a senator of which happened to be the seat of government for the NR which was also the FO's target? Nothing unusual about that at all... And then you add in the context from that monologue in TLJ about the military industrial complex as well as things we've been shown in Mando & Ahsoka... it's not hard to put the pieces together.
In my fan fiction that follows a different timeline were Senator Xiono is killed by a Force User who Impaled him Before wrenching the saber out Xiono's lift side 3 week after his son graduates from the New Republic Naval Academy.
New Republic security never found the assailant, but it was surmised that the individual was formerly a Galactic Imperial Inquisitor And rumors also came up that he was killed either because he was in League with a new Galatic Sith Empire from out of the unknown regions who were tying up any loose ends, to he was made aware of this new Empires imminent innovation And they killed him regardless, if he believed they existed.
I wonder if Xiong is being set up as a character like Borsk Fey'lya in Legends: not in league with enemies of the New Republic, but also a real obstacle to many of the heroes due to his own pride and ambitions.
Yeah he's working with the remnants 😅
I have wondered if he is the canon version of Borsk Fey’lya from the Zahn trilogy
Agreed. Hera’s trial with Xiono trying to get her kicked out or arrested seems similar to Borsk Fey’lya having Ackbar on trial.
This appears to be the case.
I'm looking forward to learning more about Senator and seeing how far he can fall from grace.
Borsk Fey'lya and his legacy lives on in Senator Xiono
Xiono was just on a vacation to Space-Cancun, its totally fine.
There were factions in the New Republic that don't want another full scale civil war that's why they're trivializing every threats but those politicians were loyal maybe some traitors and that was the imperfections of the New Republic.
Xiono may be an Imperial supporter…I wonder if any the companies that are connected to the Imperial Remnant are lining his pockets.
I wouldn't be surprised the Imperial Remnant are probably the ones doing that very thing.
As soon as he open his damn open
As long as we eventually get a scene where Chopper karate-chops Xiono in the nads, all will be right in the galaxy.
Was listening to Screen Crush, and came up with a thought that maybe Senator Xiono is the new Borsk Fey'lya. Spars with Mon Mothma, at odds with Leia, doesn't trust the Jedi. I think it might fit. Maybe he takes over as Chancellor for a time and then goes back to being a senator once his term is over, but does enough damage to the Republic during his tenure.
The senator is definitely sus.
It's possible that LucasFilm is going to alter Bloodline and make Xiono the one that throws Lie Organia under the bus as a result of being overruled in episode 7 and perhaps many more incidents like this until Xion finds out that Leia's father was Darth Vader. That explains why Xiono was mad about his son joining the resistance because Leia was running it.
Dude, he’s definitely a centrist senator and imperial sympathizer
Nah, I think he's just ignorant. A lot of politicians in fact are.
Star Wars once again continues its tradition on featuring bad dads
I clicked on this so fast. "What's the tea?"
I think he's just a typical politician with different views but he's for the republic.
I kind of wish there was a group of antagonists in the new republic.
It would be interesting to find out after fact because sometimes the bad guys don’t get caught and do get away with it
He pulled a Ted Cruz and fled the state- I mean system 😅
I think it's way more interesting if he just sucks and isn't a traitor
I’ve noticed, besides Leia, a lot of Jedi avoid the New Republic like the plague
And maybe we should have let our boy Chopper do a war crime in the tribunal after all....
To be fair, I think Xiono actaully did more to prevent another Galactic War than starting it (despite not being present in the last one), considering Hera's actions led to the Deaths of a couple of X-Wing pilots, who likely had families of their own. Not to mention Sabine betrayed the Galaxy to find Ezra when she handed the map over to Baylon Skoll, which led to Thrawn coming back. And now that the Legendary Grand Admiral is back, there will be blood to spill. Eventhough the New Republic failed to pay attention to Imperial Sympathizers as well Remants, they weren't as strong without any compdent leader to guide them properly, which is where Thrawn fits the bill. I'm not saying Xiono is right there's nothing to worry about, but Sabine's actions are clearly proving who's goinig to be the most resposible for what could be the Rise of the First Order.
WE LOVE CONSPIRACY THEORIST ALEX 😂
i've never seen you this angry
he gives me Gaius Baltar vibes. Hopefully without the redemption, though
My guy is totally a rat! Even worse a rat of convenience! The type of guy that doesn’t seek out betrayal but once he finds it he thinks it’s a lovely alternative to his current situation.
Yeah after Ahsoka, I kind of wish he was on Hosnian Prime when it went asplodey.
The Prime Minister of Bavaria and he defenetly share similarities.
Reminds me of fey'la
I hate that we’re not gonna see him die some stupid death in the filoni movies cos he’s in the future canon lol
I don’t know why they show him off in season 2 and then we just never see him again
That was to show that one he was still alive and two showing that there was a HUGE implication that he was aware of what the First Order was doing. We didn't need to see him more than one time in season 2.
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Evidence suggests that he's on the Imperial payroll. As Hera called him out on, he was never a member of the Rebel Alliance and he did not fight the Empire. He just sat back and waited to see who won, and then became a politician for the winning faction (at the time). At the very least that proves that he's amoral and not really concerned about other people. Given that Hera's investigation proved that military hardware was being stolen from the New Republic by unknown parties possibly affiliated with Morgan Elsbeth for unknown purposes, Hera was *not* out of line in wanting to find out what was going on. Arresting the employees of the shipyard did not give the NR insight into what the stolen hardware was being used for.
Fine Dave Filoni I'll watch Resistance. But it better be alright
The father of a true menace.
Kaz is a danger to himself and others.
Should probably be locked up.
Senators escape from statewide disasters all the time in the real world, sad but true
Well, the actor is doing a great job making me hate the character. 😊😁
I think kazuda have to appear with Poe dameron bring back the republic back to the public
But isn’t he Kaz’s father?
"'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party."
I think I’m Episode 7, instead of being dumb and making a 3rd Death Star they should have taken a large fleet to the Hosnian system and just obliterated the Defense fleet and bombard Hosnian Prime until they submit
He could be an Imperial spy
yeah, that's why i prefer kaz
I like Kaz a lot I would say he is one of my top five favorite Star Wars characters.
Personally I don’t think he’s associated with the Imperial Remnant or the First Order. To me he represents the complacent politician who may not be trying to do bad things but is blind to the threat that the others possesses.
Resistance definitely makes him seem like a turncoat, but I'm hoping he is more of political figure that wants to throw around his power. That gives some real-world parallels for us to see.
Or he is just extremely negligent and in denial, which happens a lot in bureaucracy. It’s like people who refuse to believe the dam will break until it does. He could also just have been lucky in a case of bad timing about being off-world at the time of the attack. Perhaps he was even set up or preserved as a lame-duck. Leia was offworld when Alderaan was attacked, after all. Maybe Xiono was getting too haughty for the First Order, so they captured him and forced him to watch the Hosnian System get destroyed in order to humiliate him. We don’t know, so I don’t appreciate your slanderous speculation. Not saying he is a good guy, but he isn’t necessarily evil. Do you think Leia was a bad leader simply for not dying with her people? This is a lot of conspiratorial hearsay.
Maybe he gets locked up and goes to prison
Is Senator Xiono the type of Senator you just wanted to hit in the face ? (A lot)
His animated live-action version looks nothing alike, even considering the diffences between animation and live-action. Like he looks more like Cassio Tagge
I don't like the character but I kind of understand where he's coming from. Mon Mothma pushed the demilitarization right after Endor and even before Jakku and she as the leader of the rebellion should've the best intel.
And while we as watchers knows that the Empire isn't fully defeated and we know what will come, is Xiono that different from all those politicians who e.g. claimed even in February 2022 that Russia would never attack Ukrajine?
Xiono is shortsighted and opportunistic but I imagine that his attitude towards the Imperial remnant is shared by many not only senators - as we've seen during Hera's briefing - but also common citizens. On the other hand Leia and Hera have suffered great many losses during the war - and Hera by Thrawn - so it's easy to see them as warmongers who want to fight just because they want to see Imperial blood.