FOUR TIMES that Men and Women Faced Off in Tennis
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Have you ever wondered how a top female player like Serena Williams would face up against the best male tennis players in the world? Would you also be surprised to learn that a match like that has already happened?! We have at least FOUR examples of Men vs. Women singles matchups throughout tennis history, so let's analyze their history, results, and why we probably won't see another battle of the sexes anytime soon...
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If women were on the same level as men athletically, there wouldn’t be “women’s sports”.
It seems so obvious, but I've never really thought of it that way until you just stated it.
That's checkmate in a single sentence.
Yeah it would just be “Sports”
If women were on the same level as men athletically then we would not existed or not be like we know, if women were strong as men, then we would have less men, women wold be at least 1.2 times the size of a man, because women would consume most of the nutrients to be able to compete against other females in strength and also be ready to give birth, but we evolved so men compete agaisnt other male to be able to provide nutrients to the women so they could carry the males genes.
So you should be gratefull that we are not a matriarchy species.
@@exedeath no.
People need to realize. Being offended doesn’t mean you’re right.
Bu-b-but, my feelings.
@@Zyscheriah facts don't care about your feelings 😂
@@husseinibrahim3894 Shapiro moment
@@petrpodskalsky1785 Ikr. It's getting worse and worse.
lol, freakshows everywhere.
Serena Williams was probably surprised by her loss to a man ranked so low. She even admitted they purposely chose someone that low b/c they thought he'd been easy to beat and it'd be a lopsided win for her. She was very shocked that he crushed her and readily admitted that men - even less talented men - have a HUGE advantage over women in sports. Seriously, I was impressed by her honesty and people need to shut up about the whole thing.
I'm sure she played against men in practice, of a good standard. They play mixed doubles as well. Maybe the men go easy on her in practice.
for me tennis men player 200 ranking and higher are all talentes genius tennis players, the main differences are the precision and mentality
@@marestgondev No the main difference is physical.
@@cockoffgewgle4993 meh, not to much
the guy that beat serena and her sister venus also played 18 holes of golf before the match, and he was smoking during the matches when they were sitting down.after a few games.
The same year Chris Evert won the French Open and number one in the world, she played a practice match against her older brother! Drew was a member of the Auburn University men’s tennis team. He beat her on clay 6-0, 6-0!
The top 16-year-old boy in the country could beat Serena straight sets.
If I remember correctly John Evert played for the University of Alabama and Vanderbilt universities.
McEnroe is such an honest guy. When that lady stated "I'm just waiting for you to apologize", his answer was simply, uh no.
He's great lol had nothing to apologise for.
@@grayalun How could he even apologize without setting himself up for another apology? "I am so very sorry I triggered the snowflakes and indoctrinated nut jobs with the truth?"
@@richland1980 I said he had nothing to apologise for, he did nothing wrong just stated facts.
Good thing that exchange happened years ago, or John would have been CANCELLED!
I agree. And also, why compare two different sports? If women really want to compete against men in Tennis, why not change it to a all gender event?
“wOuLd yOu LiKe tO aPoLoGiZe?”
“uh, no.”
Ye its so duuumb. I consider myself very progressive, liberal and left-leaning. So you can imagine my eye-rolling when I saw that bit and started imagining the amounts of triggered anitSJW screaching "feminist-agenda!" when wathcing the video. Fuel to the fire...
the worst thing about this is propably that they truly believe what they are saying. Its no shame that women are biologically at a disadvantage, so why would you trashtalk this dude for stating it. Its just unrealistic to think that Serena Williams can win. Thats not sexist and no one should be ashamed or offended by that. She is the worlds best female tennis player and she can beat like 99,99% of all people in the world.
Of all women you mean
@@gromswowguide7927 no i mean overall. I think if she would be playing in the mens league she would be around lets say the top 1000-2000. Compared to almost 8 Billion Humans thats more than 99,99%
"I want to take this chance to apologize TO ABSOLUTELY NOBODY"
So to sum up the matches:
1. The old man one against a young woman.
2. The man lost, but he threw the match to win a bet.
3. The rules handicapped the man.
4. The man was a low ranked player, but won anyway.
And the woman only won the one that was thrown away.
The rules handicapped the male, who won anyway.
"75 year old bobby riggs confidentally taking on 19 year old teenager" 💀
McEnroe didn't say sorry is satisfying.
Ohh yesss
But that's time before beta male who afraid of woman and what will people say if you say the truth
he stayed strong, not like most "alpha males" now a days
@@jozhfy actual backbone instead of saying yes with everything current
Not saying*
Mans played golf and drank some beers with some friends then beat both Williams sisters in tennis handily in the same day. What an absolute legend.
No count of how many cigerettes he smoked either.
I love his training routine, he is someone all men can look up to.
He probably smoked a blunt and ate a bag of Funyuns between matches too.
Thunder Chicken I have no shame in admitting I would also eat a funyuns.
@@spiritorange8325 Because you're a man of culture...and I respect that.
The worst part about the MacEnroe comment was that he got so much hate for it but Serena agreed with him. It’s a good publicity stunt but no one who actually plays tennis would ever say that the women and men are equal. Don’t believe me, look at Serena’s interview about it.
It seems like the only people that criticized McEnroe and asked him to apologize were those that knew absolutely nothing about the game.
@@misterrogersstudent-ru4bh Yep, people are getting so offended now adays that they are getting offended for other people.
The match few remmember is the 1992 battle between legends Jimmy Connors and Martina Navratilova. Connors was 40, past his prime and Navratilova was 35, and still a force in the game. The court was specially painted so that Martina had the full court while Jimmy only had the singles court, and on top of that Martina had two serves while Jimmy had only one. Jimmy defeated Martina 75 62. Why was he only allowed the singles court and why onlyone serve. One thing is for certain, if Martina hasd won, we would have never heard the last of it, there would have been books, films and documentaries.
Did you not see the video?
I did not notice that!!!! Thank you for this!!!
HaHaHa...there also woulda been motivational posters with her picture that say "defy the odds" or "always believe in yourself"
Not to be "that guy", but I think Martina had HALF of the doubles lines, not all of it. Your point still stands.
Yep with all the extra perks going Martinas way he still kicked her ass. And no one mentions that Martina was built like a man too she had more muscle than Jimmy i would say. But still lost.
Not a single person who truly knows tennis would seriously say the #1 woman, whoever she was, could beat a male pro ranked in the top 600. Hell, she wouldn’t be able to beat most top Division 1 male players. Pro level males just serve too hard, hit too hard, and move too fast. It’s not sexist, it’s biology.
why top 600 ? why not top 5 or Novak ? let them have the fun of their lifetime , Novak vs Halep or Kenin or Naomi.
Biology.....and physics. Btw, hows the train set? Any good explosions lately?
Well biology is sexist, SJWs just need to deal with it.
no male top 10 player would ever accept such a mach
@hnel435 Lol it didn't take long for SJWs to appear. Whether you accept it or not, nature is sexist so deal with it.
I will always enjoy the fact that the Williams sisters claimed they'd beat any man outside the top 200, and a guy outside the top 200, after 2 beers, crushes both of them.
Yea. Where do women get off thinking these odd & fantastically wild ideas
@@shockwave1210 cuz men keep boosting their ego, kinda like simping, then, their ego does boost and think better of themselves of what it actually are
"I can beat a man any day!"
*institutes a handicap system in favor of the woman*
How is the 2 beers a handicap? I'd be more impressed if he drank a bottle of whiskey- with beer it's no different than drinking water.
To be fair though I respect them for saying that because they understand the difference in physical/anatomical advantage of men. Like no woman will ever be the fastest person on earth or the strongest, it’s always men
I think it's very clear Bobby Riggs threw the match and bet against himself. His performance against King was completely different from the one with Court
Yes !!! Bobby was a gambler and always needed money ! I would have done the same !!!!!!!!!!!!!!😏😒😂🤣😅
Yeah, I completely concur. If you watch the telecast, the color commentator kept referring to Bobby Riggs hitting easy shots into BJ King's back-hand, which was her big money stroke. That was my first clue that Riggs was basically giving her easy points. Riggs was crazy like like a fox!
That's exactly what I was thinking watching this. If you know it's high profile and you have become a huge favorite it would be easy to dump the match and make a killing being against yourself. I think Bobby Riggs the match.
Especially after the first win.. the odds were much more in his favor so why not bet against himself
Serena was at her best when she admitted the difference. I've seen the good and the bad from her, so it's nice to see that she's human just like everyone else.
How do you know who's human and who's not, goy.
@@telavivgaming Simple, just ask [Redacted] or say [Redacted], I'm sure they'd react to it one way or another
“Do you think Serena Williams is the best in the world?” “No. Would you like to see?” “No, but would you like to apologize?” The media is a joke 😂😂
Serena Williams is Woman? Look at these biceps...... 😁
Well that's all you need to know why they brought him there, just to apologize
@@novanoir8309, i know one thing. He is better tennis player as me, but whit everything else he sukz big dig, which he doesnt have.
@@miroslavdockal9468 well idk him personally so i wont gave any remark. he can be a world class ping pong player who serve with his cahoonas stick for all i care
@@novanoir8309, so your like McEnroe..... 🤣
"Oi, bet you can't beat the Williams sisters"
"Hold my third beer..."
Only three, gotta up those numbers
Sequentially xD
He handled the Williams sisters as easily as he handled a couple of stubbies.
and wait for me to finish my morning golf before I play them...
Hold my cigarette
Thats even more prove that this "legendary battle of the sexes" was a work. Despite that guy being old.
I mean some journeyman who doesnt take his career serious + after golf, 2 beers and even held back a bit and won easily against both.
It just didnt came out because everyone wanted the woman to win and commentators either being paid or clueless.
Imagine asking a man a question, and him answer it with complete honesty, and then people get offended and ask you if you would like to apologize for your honesty...
For real. It didn't even seem mean, unlike Riggs' comment back then. He just replied to a question and got thrown under a bus by SJW mob and media.
Serena Williams herself said in interview that she would stand no chance against similarly ranked male players; "If I played Andy [Murray] I'd be lucky to take a single game. Men's and women's tennis are totally different sports."
Men in tennis - "we can beat serena"
serena - "they can beat me"
media - "NO ONE COULD BEAT HER!!!"
lol
serena once admitted that she can't even win against her coach.
It's leftist Marxist idealized equality.
@@Civsuccess2 yeah, I mean all people are not created equal. If you don't start by accepting things as they are, the solutions will be faulty at best.
Media to anyone who points out the first two : "Do you want to apologize?!!"
Serena seems like a good, honest person, unlike the media
Dude really came off an afternoon drinking with his bro’s and playing a totally different sport and mopped both Williams sisters I’m dying
But somehow, "best in the world"
and thats on god
@@Sketchy-- In the womens division, they are the best in the world.
@@serg9320 so overall they are, in their prime, probably ranked 400th or even 500th best players in the world.
In terms of Women, yes they are 1 and 2. But overall, they would drop about 400-500 places.
@@rezarfar Yes, but comparing womens sport to mens sport is completely unfair. Not being sexist, but there is a reason that there are separate divisions.
I watched the 1973 match between Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs. It was a joke. Riggs simply served up every return shot nice and easy allowing King to take the offensive with nearly every exchange. The whole match was literally a setup.
You're using "literally" out of context (most people don't catch that).
Bobby Riggs did not return shots very hard against Margaret Court either. King was younger, quicker and a harder hitter than Court. King took advantage of Riggs weak returns while Court didn't. There is speculation that Riggs, a big gambler, threw the King match so the mob would cancel his betting debts.
Riggs was more at the entrepreneurial stage by then. Winning actually wasn't important. The figures from the match were the only things that mattered, and Bobby did quite well. However, he was in his mid fifties and had been retired quite awhile by then. He was never going to be as agile in 1973, as he was in 1939. That's just biology. Some people unfortunately don't even live to be 34 years of age. 😊
He made a FORTUNE
Bobby was well named. It worked for him. 😁
Chris Evert, at the top of her career, dismissed Riggs v. BJK saying " no woman could beat a NCAA Division II man, let alone a touring pro."
BTW, Riggs was handicapped (1 serve v. 2, doubles line for BJK) similar to Connors. Why was that not mentioned?
"Would you like to apologize?"
"Uhm, no?"
LOL
LOLLl
Time?
@@mordor2594 9:44 Central European Summer Time. You are welcome.
And that's why Johnny Mac's a legend lmao
@@strahinjagov You can't be serious!
Just like the women’s US soccer team got smoked by a team comprised of male children.
Lol Dallas 16U
Didn’t they get beat by an Australian U15 team too?
@@spacebum that was the aussi team 7.2 I think
@@jorgefrade8900 they were still kids though I’m sure.
@@spacebum I mean it was the Matildas who lost not USA one I think there
bro its hilarious how everybody was so surprised and supportive of billy jean king when she was literally 29 while riggs was 55
Ywah he said he could "beat it"
But lost
@@kurukiririr5816 Except he literally did beat Court, arguably one of the best female players that ever lived. As an old man.
the Riggs and Billy match fixed --- it was show and a good one at that .
He wasn't flippant toward the serena, he was flippant toward the interviewer, who was pretending not to know that female tennis players can't beat male tennis players. She wanted him to play along, for him to also pretend not to know this, and he refused.
I agree. There's a difference between best tennis player in the world, which Serena isn't, and one of the best tennis players in the world, which she is.
@@MsRafanatic female*
Yeah that interviewer can try being honest for once and see what it's like to have balls like him haha.
Really though, how can she say best in world when we have Roger? If he's not the best in the world, then who is?
@@MsRafanatic she is not one of the best players in the world. She is the best FEMALE tennis player in the world!
@@MsRafanatic would you call a junior World no 1 the best tennis player in the world?
as a woman, it upsets me when ppl can’t accept this, bc to me it’s a logical conclusion based purely on biology
the male body is faster, stronger, and taller than the female body because of GENETICS - so the best man/men will always beat the best women in sports, NOT because women don’t work hard enough or are inferior or something, but because men were literally born with the necessary biological makeup to do it all better
so because of the science, to me there should be no shame in admitting that men are better at athletics based competitions
no one is criticizing the dove for being slower than the eagle - it’s to be expected
yet people still admire the way both birds fly
in my opinion, it takes away from all of a female athlete’s hard work when she/others try to compare her to males
it’s apples to oranges, and the categories are separate so that competition is actually fair and enjoyable for both sexes
also, another reason it’s easy for me to admit that men are better at this type of thing is bc there are so many unique things about the female body too! sure, no matter how good a woman is at sports, she’ll probably never beat men at it - but no matter how good a man is at sports, he’ll never be able to grow another human inside of him and give birth
each body has different strengths and weaknesses, and i think that’s beautiful :)
@@hannaht1976 thank you . It’s so rare seeing women nowadays stop being biased and look at certain situations as it should. And there’s a lot of thing women are way better than men at. Men and women can’t be equal at everything it’s impossible but what’s makes it’s beautiful is there’s things we both can do better than the other with out it being at completion .
You're so right and beautiful.
Very well said 👏👏👏
@@hannaht1976 when these women despite getting huge salaries in sports complain they get less then man it's all depend on viewers now in this case a poor janitor boy will earn much less then these women he should also start complaining then
so let me get this straight, They made a movie about margaret beating a 50 year old in tennis but not the 50 year old beating the 25 year old?
Female empowerment!
I think you got your names mixed up. Court was also 30 at the time, not that this is hugely relevant since she was still the top female player at the time.
your editing is dope
Content Creator: Here's a video with facts
CZcams reviewer: So you have chosen _demonitization_
🤣😂
This is so accurate I forgot to laugh. It literally *works like this*
@@mybestnugget7514 It does.
It goes to show how left leaning CZcams is
@Brazilian Goddess you’re missing the point it’s not the woke censoring people that created CZcams that are censoring facts. It’s a couple woke leftists doing it
“Riggs bet on himself to win the Wimbledon singles, doubles, and mixed doubles events, all in the same year...”
Me: “Haha, what an idiot”
“Which he won”
Me: ...
Ikr? I think it was easier to do back in the 40s. Nowadays, it's difficult to do
@@RisingInTheFlesh Definitely wasn't easy back then either. That was a true alpha moment for Riggs. Unfortunately people will remember him most for losing to King.
@@bkatbamna which Riggs rigged😀😀😀
@@prashantkumarchoudhary6124 ^^^ this. Just as his video on cheating touches on, I’m sure some fixing was involved tbh. Especially in the 30s? No doubt.
@@RisingInTheFlesh You can't really compare today's era to the 40s. Different racket technology, training, and more.
Mike Estep, Navratilova's coach during 84-86, refused to state openly that he beat Martina, but it was obvious he could. Venus and Serena's hitting partner who did not make the pro tour, said neither got more than two games a set of him as well.
As a former college tennis player (FIU 2001-2003) I completely agree with John McEnroe, it´s a fact
When I was 16, my youth soccer team met and beat the best womens team in the country (Norway) 13-0. They were so mad😂.
Oooooofffff
Yeah I remember. Wasn't it a college team VS actual football professional (female) team?
Lmaoooooooooooooo
Brutal
Ultimate Demolition
"Serena Williams is the best tennis player ever and how dare you say the Men are better than the Women"
"Well if you say so, I guess I'll just combine the divisions and just have the Tennis Association that is open to everyone to compete in equally"
"Wait, no"
The Williams sisters would disappear in the ranks
I wonder how long till they would start raving that tennis association is somehow sexist and that there needs to be a 50/50 representation in top ranks.
Who?
Well, the way the transgender lobby is moving, this might all be academic in any case.
Also Serena was beat by the rank 203 mans tennis player. Sooooo, how does this qualify as the best in the world?
2:11 100% agree with him 😂
Love the Williams Letterman interview where she says she doesn't want to play against a man saying she would lose.
Interviewer: Would you like to apologize...for stating facts?
John: Um? No?
Exactly and she has probably never even picked up a tennis racket.
he may have been an obnoxious prat when he played. but you cannot deny how good a player he was and he has turned into an even better commentator IMHO.
Based
Everyone always knew McEnroe had a smile between his legs!
Stunning and brave
I didn’t watch the entire video, but I get why some people thought an apology would be nice. Some people saw her as the best player in the world in terms of dominance in wtp at the time. It’s annoying when people always move the goalpost... Like obviously the men will outperform the women in tennis most of the time.
In general why bring in gender if a women was the hardest working and best performing tennis player. Why isn’t it the same way as GSP is considered one of the goats in mma bc of his dominance, yet no one would argue he could beat the higher weight classes.
Shout out to McEnroe for standing his ground and not apologizing for something he shouldn't apologize ever.
Yeah thank god he didn't apologize. Too many people apologize for things they shouldn't apologize for these days.
I think he could have defended himself more clearly though. Tennis is part technique, part strength and part fitness. Marathon running shows the gulf between men and women in the latter two, so there's your answer, in two sentences.
I would be surprised if women made it within the top 1000.
Norah O'Donnell: "Are you here to apologize?"
She is absolutely what's wrong with journalism today. Ultra liberal and dumber than a box of frog farts. Mac should have gotten up and blown his nose on her head.
its weird that we feel the need to praise a guy who said something so mundane and obvious
Riggs threw that match against King. The fact that he was known to be a heavy gambler, have serious debts, and went out of his way to promote the match and pump up the betting odds in his favor screamed set-up. The fact that it can't be proven just means he covered his tracks VERY well.
More likely, it's simply common knowledge amongst the media-industrial complex that certain stories are not to be pursued because they're damaging to the narrative.
or the fact that this was 40 years ago and it was really just that easy to get away with it
Legend is Bobby Riggs bet against himself in that match he lost against BJK.
Reportor: Yo, give me facts
Him: alright here you go
The world: those facts are sexist
""would you care to apologize to those who's fake world view was upset by your real world facts?""
This is basically everything in the world at the moment.
It's not changing anytime soon either.
@@xtlm sadly
by world you mean the usa ?
@@CptFoupoudav Most countries, yes. Not just the usa.
The irony was that McEnroe was being generous.
Indeed he was I know quite a few amateur unranked mens players that would tear her apart on the court without breaking a sweat.
Not even amateur, some men who only played once can beat them. This is already proven by how australian national female football team got beaten by middleschool boys team. Not even professional boys team, it just schools football club.
There is a recent video of a premier league player i think zaha dribbling an entire national women's team at the highest level and not even coming close to having lost the ball, complete domination.
The only hard evidence you need is to look record-based sports (100m dash, weight lifting, swimming, javelin throw, long jump, all of em) and look how far apart the mens and womens records are. The biggest irony is the records where the scores are actually not too far apart is because some dude decided he was a girl one day and permanently destroyed the female leaderboards forever.
@@sunshineskystar lol ok what a stupid claim. I'd like to see a guy that played tennis once try to defend against a female pro serve. I say no chance. Yeah it might be slower than a men's serve but you are underestimating this a lot. Do you really not know that different sports require different skills? In some sports sheer physical speed and strength play a bigger role than in others. Just because that happened in one sport doesn't mean it would happen in any sport lmao. Just think a bit
I would argue that, since Mcenroe came under fire, there is a reason to see this scenario played out. If those people think he was wrong, they should step up and try, if they are qualified, or not give him so much flack.
I'm surprised that this video wasn't taken down.
Apologizing for telling the truth, that's the 21st century for you folks.. especially the last 10 years
Yup, exactly
Looove this comment.
@@angeliparraguirre7329 what?
@@angeliparraguirre7329 Except we moved past all that only to slide back in.
@@mystiqdesu his point is people constantly have to apologize for "telling the truth" or "being bluntly honest," regardless of what the topic it might be.
The 21st century version of this just happened to be the topic of this video.
McEnroe had NO REASON to apologize.
He said the truth, period
Exactly 👍
I thought he was being really nice LOL
Absolutely
The question, and the way it was asked, was an insult. I just lost all respect for that show. I thought it was just a morning show. Now I see it is a "woke" pit. It is as pathetic as it is disgusting.
@@xhagast I don't watch the show so I don't know her name , but check out the sourpuss on the face of the woman on the left.....
one day in high school we crashed girl's netball game. had boys vs girls game. we played basketball had no idea how to play netball, learned the rules for five seconds and the rest is history.
McEnroe should have apologize..... to absolutely nobody
"We can beat any man ranked outside the top 200!"
Weird flex, but okay.
Ya fr 😂
Punching down instead of admitting "no you're right"
No they can't.
Weird flex, and also untrue. lol
Hey, I can beat anyone in baseball (anyone in Little League or younger).
And they lost... Double self burn
Big respect to John McEnroe for standing his ground
I'm like number 1000
He is right!! Every one can see it!!
Speak truth to power!
I agree
Sadly he is woke nowadays
Riggs vs King was the biggest PR stunt to date the pro tennis has ever come up with.
Weird reality that McEnroe HAS to apologize for saying Serena is not the best ever Period....
For saying 100% truth. It's just truth. The 2 best women's players got handled by a 203 ranked drunkard.
I don't think serena could beat a D1 university player even. Maybe that would at least be closer
She is NOT the best EVER. The best of her era yes, but she has faced no tough competition throughout her entire career
@@viksinha5410 sharapova in her prime? Stephens? Halep? Azarenka? All people that have beat her in major tournaments and are also amazing players in their own regard. But happened to be unlucky enough to have to play serena all the time
@@przemysawbrzeczyszczykiewi1211 H2H vs Sharapova: 20-2, H2H vs Azarenka: 18-5
Not really "tough" competition
@@viksinha5410 I'm saying they're good, and that serena is a beast. She has had competition but she's that much better.
I absolutely despise watching serena and can't stand her in general, but she's the greatest women's player of all time.
Serena prime vs any females prime is easily Serena. And again, i despise watching her grunt and shout and scream and be attention seeking and telling a line judge she will kill her.
BUT. She's the greatest talent in women's history. No question.
She “beat” an elderly man and they challenged someone outside of top 200. That proves way more than what they thought it would.
OK...but it was the elderly man who was thirsty for the match. It's not like she was the one looking to prove she was better. She was kind of backed into a corner and had to accept the challenge after the other girl lost so badly.
Riggs hustled everyone and cleaned up.
@@wickeddjsin well she asked for it saying that women should be paid the same as men while the men’s circuit was more popular, profitable, and better athletically
@@chuckfinley6747 that's kind of flimsy logic. She's allowed to advocate for higher pay without having to be able to beat men 1 on 1. If womens leagues put out a good product then they should get paid accordingly. The players don't necessarily dictate how much money the league can make. That's on the owners and marketing and lots of other factors beyond the players control. The quality of their play is only one factor among many. If you need proof just look at the Detroit Lions and Cincinnati Bengals. They play like trash half the time and plenty of people still pay to see them play
@@wickeddjsin no, if you want equal pay, you have to give equal performance. She couldn't. Done and done.
You left out the RULES, as BGK enjoyed the "doubles match court VS singles for Bobby.
Incorrect. BJK vs Bobby Riggs was played on a regular tennis court.
There was a more recent Navratilova vs Connors match where Martina was afforded half the doubles alleys and Connors only got one serve.
i can't believe the the person that i thought was the greatest tennis player failed to beat someone who is ranked 203
News anchor: “Would you like to apologize?”
McEnroe: “ah, no.” 💣 💥
Classic.
I wish he would of asked her why because I'm baffled as to why she would ask that.
I'm a woman and I was all teeth he refused to apologized!!!😁😁😁
Williams Sisters - Lose to rank 208 player
Interviewer - That makes them the best in the world
I know right make it make sense
That player was also half drunk
The best female players, yeap. They were at that time.
You’re a furry manchild
@Deez Nuts How come doing that would destroy what all women have done for equality?
Top ladies snooker player got to play on men's tour last year.. She was beaten in ever match except a 1 frame shootout
Not often recognized: Karsten Braasch wasn't really considered the #203 player for men's tennis when he played the Williams sisters. He was more like #350, but the rankings hadn't yet updated on the day they played. A few days after he trounced Serena and Venus, his ranking was updated, and it dropped from the low 200s to the mid-300s. This updated ranking was based on his record from matches played _prior to,_ and _not including,_ his match against Venus and Serena. So, they didn't get drubbed by a 200-ish ranked male player, but by a 350-ish ranked male player.
_Res ipsa loquitur._
"the worst type of inequality is trying to make unequal things equal"- Aristotle 😎
Fact
@Evan Cole there’s a lot of things women can do that isn’t in the kitchen you sexist.
In the laundry room for example..
Aristotle is sexist af so quoting him really only shows..
@@Itstime1231 “sexism” wasn’t considered a bad thing back then so people who grew up with a culture that is not normal to us and our modern culture cannot be blamed for it.
It’s like comparing our technology to those of the past humans and blaming them for not being able to have fucking satellites and nuclear weapons.
@@nydra9912 Good thing I wasn't talking to aristotle.
"Equality"?
A 29 year old in their prime versus a 55 year old retiree?
It was gambling
*a 55 year-old who almost certainly bet on himself to lose
@@uberneanderthal He needed to pay those debts, you can’t play tenis if someone breaks your legs
@@uberneanderthal Exactly. He took a fall for the money.
Equality but men should hold back to pamper the stunning and brave.
Interesting how the only one of these 4 matches I'd ever heard about before watching this video was Riggs vs. King.
Life is not an anime: we are painfully bound by the laws of physics.
You know it's a weird time when facts are taken as insults...
It's not a weird time,it's a time of socialism
@@kaparg i would say potlitical correctness (which is a tool from socialism, coined by mao)
Not just insults but as racism, sexism and other isms. Statistics, facts and biology have all lost their meaning in these retarded times we live in when someone says something remotely “offensive” (even tho it’s true) it’s bashed down and everyone expects an apology or just flat out cancel the person. Ridiculous.
@Yokai369 You know what is funniest about you lefties. It's like you have a rule that you must follow "acuse others of what you are guilty of". Does that ever work? Do you not tire of coming across as an idiot?
tell that to BLM
Can’t believe everyone fell for his plan, literally easy money, win the first, bet against yourself and deliver your own result, what a premium hustler😆😆🤣❤️
lol he planned all this ....
Then made a movie about it and probably left that part out - I’m certainly not watching it
Boss mode
He still had to beat the top female player at age 55. Does anyone here think Stefan Edberg woud beat Ash Barty today?
@@MartinJohnZ Yes, Edberg would wax Barty. He’s not exactly out of shape and presently plays on a high level squash league.
I enjoyed watching this Tennis history regarding Men vs Women. My love for Tennis started in the 90's and continues to this day. As with each generation, improvement and skills are very noticeable with speed and power at the forefront of the modern game. These days I do watch more female matches than I did when first getting hooked on the sport. The future of Tennis is in wonderful hands with the current crop of players on both sides. Game, Set and Match ... Tennis!!! 🎾
Still can remember when i used to have one of the Williams as GOAT of their places as a counterpart of Nadal as a little boy.
Damn, if only i discovered the memes about her before those times could be 50% more funnier than watching her playing.
30 year old active professional women beat an old retired man wow
And only because he threw the match.
@@totetoresano dont let them know his secret. He needed the money
@@totetoresano yeah im pretty sure any college boy with decent skill would wipe the floor with them
@@rosheacarrington1604 Even college is too generous in this example
She was a lesbian, so she doesn't count as a woman.
The women's US soccer team couldn't beat an all boys high school soccer team on the field.
Not even high schoolers. U15 so like 13-15 year olds. And it's not like they picked the top U15 players from around the world. It was just the FC Dallas academy team.
@xXlegit_ opsXx its true. It was published on the newspapers. Dont be salty.
@xXlegit_ opsXx Nice! Attack his sexuality. Real nice argument
@xXlegit_ opsXx you sound dumb. FC Dallas under-15 boys squad beat the U.S. Women's National Team in a scrimmage. In preparation for two upcoming friendlies against Russia, the U.S. women's national team played the FC Dallas U-15 boys academy team on Sunday and fell 5-2, according to FC Dallas' official website. Facts over feelings mate
@xXlegit_ opsXx it’s a fact, look it up. And it isn’t the only time, something similar happened with the Australian women’s team
Bobby Riggs was 53 years old, I think at the time. Not taking anything away from women's tennis, but professional tennis players in the 50 will decimate the women's top 10.
As soon as you change the rules for one side, court size for only one side, and competitor’s age significantly, it ceases to be “a battle of the sexes”.
Serena Williams herself said that mens and womens tennis are two totally different sports. She is realistic because she knows her stuff.
All that doesn't take ANYTHING away from the work, dedication, blood, sweat and tears female athletes invest in their performance.
But there are boundaries set by biology that you simply can't overcome.
Serena Williams isn't really a woman to begin with.
@@LevisH21 is she trans?
@@microvvaveoven well, WHAT is a woman?! ;)
@@LevisH21 someone having female reproductive parts ?!!
That’s after she got wreaked. She was running her mouth before she played a man and got humble pie the shit out of her.
As a female, I dont get why women want to compare themselves to men. Biologically different. Period. End of discussion. Move on?
because trans women exist and they want to convince themselves that feelings are more important than facts. I will always support the trans community when it comes to what they FEEL, but if you're going to get in a competition that involves PHYSICAL difference, it's straight up cheating to just call yourself a women and absolutely demolish every single person there is on the room.
"Period" is the end of discussion
It’s the crazy liberal girls. Everyone else I assume, are more normal.
Because gender is a “social construct” apparently.
@@kevper96 Don't bring politics into this
The narration leaves me speechless.
I agree with McEnroe. If you really want to see equal matches, combine the Men's and Women's divisions and let them duke it out on the clay.
I completely agree. McEnroe didn’t say anything that was even remotely out of line.
Do you make the women play best of 5? They want equal pay for only playing 3 games.
well never see this happen. especially in this day and age. everyone is too timid.
@@benjiago6800 Then let's move things into a new age. Damn, that sounds "new age'y".
@@01nmuskier The games really shouldn't matter as much as the gate. If the men bring in more fans, then pay them more. If the women do, pay them more.
Soccer in the U.S. is the women talking the men's money, because their stands are nearly empty.
I respect John even more now. He spoke how he felt and didn't back down. If there's a question about men & women sports then like John said combine them and there would be no more questions
They weren't even his feelings man. It was just cold hard facts. Serena Williams is the most gifted female Tennis player of all time. Venus is the 2nd best. But there are high school aged male tennis prospects who could smoke both of them. That's just the nature of pitting men vs. women in athletic competition. There is no comparison.
no need to respect John for stating the obvious, i would have laughed that that stupid reporters face for asking such an insulting question. Especially a guy sub 200 seed already defeated both Williams sisters in their prime.
I agree with combined competitions. This could literally set the record straight if done for a decade or so.
Males and Females are intrinsically blessed with different strengths, deal with it.,
@@ultraali453 LMAO, you don't need a decade! and there is no record that need straightening. Unless you want massive youtube compilations of low intelligence feminists getting embarrassed. then Ok.
@@ultraali453 if they would combine both sports the true outcome would be. No women would be a proffessional anymore. And the moment they would change it again womens tennis would be destroyed. It's facts that nadal and federer could whoop every women 6:0 6:0. And they never could chanhe that. They are both taller then 1.85m nadal is freakish strong in armpower. They couldn't even handle his serve with their reach. There is no way. Sorry to state this to you but your comment makes it clear that you never did any sport at any level
Bobby(55) and Billie(29) were 26 years apart in age at the time of their match and she still lost three points each set.
That’s irrelevant considering it was rigged regardless lmao anyone who knows anything about tennis can see how obviously fixed it was, not to mention he was known to hang around mobsters that ran shady bookies… he crushed a woman that was better than BJK yet got annihilated by her? Cmon now…
@@douglasyandeau4073someone’s in denial 😂
She was competing with a 55 year old man who she first lost to, wow ,that man is a menace in his sport
This dude bet against himself, let her win and walked away with tons of cash.. Savage 100 emoji
In the video he says it wasnt proven he threw the match. So he could just be lying to save face. Or he did bet against himself. Who knows.
that would be flawless trick :D and if turned out that actually he hedged additional 1M on himself winning, that would be hilarious xD
Exactly what I'm thinking. Lot of money to be made that and being a gambler already.
Idk man, there’s no way I could talk that much shit and then lose to a chick, not on that big of a stage😂
@@lyf3warrior194 that dude made big money that probably lasted him the rest of his life. We have short attention spans.. no one remembered this match a month later. I only know about because of CZcams.. however I hear what you are saying though
I’m so glad he doubled-down and didn’t apologize. No one should have to apologize for being right just because it’s hurts your feelings. Too many people would rather listen to a comforting lie than an inconvenient truth.
Well, when a film called An Inconvenient truth was some sort of 'hit' and then turns out to be laden with b.s - it indicates that many of us wouldn't be able to distinguish one from the other anyhow.
What kind of lies were in that movie just so that we know?
@@shaft9000 - I knew it was BS from the start revise it was created by Al Gore. A man who has been fear mongering about the planet for decades. He made himself a billionaire and bought a beachfront mansion.🤡🤡
Nonsense
What right he is just wrong... He will correct to buffons like uou
To give a hint: look some mixed doubles matches.
Ranked over 200, played a round of golf, had a few beers, then beat BOTH Williams sisters in the same day while not trying his hardest? Yeah, that put that idea to bed forever. Last nail in the coffin? Check. ✅
Imagine a women challenges Roger Federer in his prime and he accepts it.. Dude 😂
6:0 6:0 in 32 minutes
It would be really hard for Federer to win this...
if he was standing on one leg, he was blindfolded and he was playing with a table tennis racket
match will end within 30mins. mostly consist of federer acing and hitting the return ace. so the woman's job in that match is just serving and walking. she won't even get to hit too many ground strokes
@@julijused 30 minutes, all round, I think 😋
Roger is such a nice guy he would hold back so not to embarrass the woman. Same thing for Rafa give fifty percent.
Calling Serena Williams the overall greatest tennis player is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard
That would really depend on the metric you choose though. If you measure it by making her play against the top rated man she would lose, but there are other metrics than that
@@isakgustavsen6536 If you're talking about all of tennis, you have to take into account every tennis player. Filtering or using other "metrics" takes away from being the overall greatest tennis player. People have called her the greatest *female* tennis player, which actually has some grounds for debate; but saying she's the best tennis player, period, is completely wrong and not even up for debate.
@@Shellackle lmao Federer or Nadal would wipe the floor with her.
@@isakgustavsen6536 Lol even Bernard Tomic will beat Serena, Osaka together
@@isakgustavsen6536 lol why would i use other metrics? I dont use other metrics to rank the only male or female player. So why would i use anitger metric to rank the best Player of the World?
Serena said it right, men tennis and women tennis are different sports. I really enjoy both.
I love John McEnroe, I've watched all of his Wimbledon matches and enjoyed his rhetoric, remember him calling an empire fat turd😂. Tennis was fun in those years.
Respect to McEnroe for not backpedaling after saying the honest truth!! The main stream media sucks!!
Yep ! That is a great strong man.!
Wish I could like this comment twice
Honestly the mainstream media is sexist and hates us masculine men with a passion, is it just me or is the female interviewers are so passionate and aggressive and to emotional every time it’s really annoying.
As a woman I see nothing wrong with John's statement. It is a fact and we should put emotions aside.
@Witherman1 you mean woman cannot except facts, that's sad
@Witherman1 I fact. Biologically speaking, men are stronger and faster. It doesn’t make men superior
That is why men and women are in different categories.
@@RayZin superior...huh who is than superior than??? Female lol
@@RayZin in sports it does make them superior... Just go to the olympics results. Women gold rarely qualifies for male finals...
If he refuses to say sorry its his choice and if she does not accept it its her opinion
my family was glued to the tv for the riggs-king match. riggs was old and a little chubby but still did ok. i did wonder if he bet against himself. there is a great episode of the odd couple with bobby riggs
What does "bet against himself" mean?
@@switastar means that he lost on purpose.
@@ayanokoujikiyotaka4828 for money right?
@@switastar Yeah, old man clearly went *all out* when it comes to playing with the audience. Gotta give him that
Respect To McEnroe for not apologizing for stating an absolute fact!
Those crazy feminist SJW wanted him to apologize for simply stating the truth, that shows how crazy they have become
@@MlGHTY1 wat. since when has feminism become a bad and crazy thing... that.... noh please noh
@@ninaperkins4194 you get that feminism in 80s and feminism now are different right? i used to be a fight for equality, now it is a fight for feelings. in 80s no feminist would say that they can compete with men at high level sport, now they say that you should not say that women can not compete with men at high level sport. we aint saying they cant, we saying they will fail.
Whoever said Serena Williams is the best tennis player in the world obviously has never watched tennis from both sides and was trolling
The best thing one can do to not get thrown under the bus and "canceled" is to stand your ground with pride so you end up being the real winner.
imagine defeating an elderly dude in tennis and celebrating like you won the US open
Imagine being able to compete when even this would have been a radical idea decades back.
AND she knew how he was gonna play
Imagine winning a game that could very well decide the wages of you and your colleagues for the rest of your careers, against a man player who handily beat the best female Australian player.
@@Shalopa9 it would have 0.000 effect on their wages. If Serana Williams beat Nadal or federer today, that might have an impact. Beating an already retired player in his fifties!!! has 0 effect since it's already pathetic you almost lost and some already were beaten
Hmmmmm if only there could be some other reason she celebrated???? I guess we will never know (unless you actually pay attention to the video but you have clearly shown that is too hard of a task for you)
It’s so hard to understand why these women can’t stop making fools of themselves. John just said it like it is. I don’t care how much anyone gets offended it does NOT change what is true. If they have a chip on their shoulder concerning facts there’s not anything anyone can do to help them.
The Williams sisters, when they made the claim, were still young. Serena Williams has since, t the peak of her ability, stated in interview that there's no way she could compete with the top male players. She's probably the best female tennis player ever, so I can't really see why that doesn't put the issue to bed.
I would like to see the best NBA team play the best WNBA, I don't think it would be close but it would answer a lot of questions.
-Best- worst NBA team. *That* would be telling (and I know the outcome).
Best WNBA team and the best high school boys team could have a match, and we already know how that's gonna go
I loved watching McEnroe stand his ground when the female reporter challenged him on his assertion that Serena was not "the best tennis player in the world". He said she's the best "female" player in the world but would basically demolished against a top ranked male player. The female reporter demanded his apology and he basically told her kiss his ass! LOL
@@johnames6430 Third wave feminism that we have now is a joke. What we used to have 50-100 years ago was true feminism, women protesting for the right to vote, the right to work, the right to equal pay, the right for women to wear pants. What we have now are women stating it's feminism, but simply want to say we are equal, but won't put their money where there mouth is.
I don't think Serena is even best female tennis player. That would be Steffi Graf
@@akaraven66 Agreed!!! Look at how the Femi-Nazi's came out in screaming in mass protest against SCOTUS Kavanaugh in that scam hearing....however, you don't hear squat from them over Joe Biden and his sexual assault allegations from Tara Reade...nor do you hear crickets from them when you have men dressed in women's clothing entering sports and beating the shit out of "real" biological women. The Femi-Nazi's today pick and choose what women's rights they want to side with now based solely on politics.
Then one of the interviewers asked him "Why compare them?" But it wasn't John who started the comparison! It was that silly NPR reporter trying to get him to say that Serena was the best tennis player ever, regardless of sex. And that is just absolutely stupid. Now, if you ask has any player ever dominated their tour more than Serena, that's a valid discussion. But "Greatest Tennis Player Ever" was the comment.
@@ctgeorgia Why don't we see women who think theyre men enter men's sports? Thats never the case. Kinda fucking weird don't ya think? It's always the dudes who pose as chicks who go to women's sports and dominate. Makes ya wonder if they're just saying theyre chicks because they were tired of sucking at sports.
Just watch mixed doubles and you'll get your answer
That was the best comment yet. Serena couldn't beat a good, not even top, division one college guy. I was a very good junior college player, and I practiced with good pro women quite a lot. Never lost a set. Women's reaction time is just slower. They can't run down shots like a guy can. What would be the shot to end a rally in women's tennis would just be another rally bal against a guy, until he could end the point. That being said, she IS the greatest women's player of all time. This, from someone that does not like her, so the comment on her being the best is genuine.
I would love to see a MMA fight between the best female and the best male…
@@ChristopherCompagnon1AndOnly That would be cruel
@@Notmyname1593 Yes, but, you know… I am a male : I love the cruelity. This is my nature.
;)
@@ChristopherCompagnon1AndOnly I've sparred women that were obviously better at martial arts than me. Still beat them. A pro female could probably beat me, but that may not be the case if I had time and resources to match their training.