I built a motorized bike about 8 years ago using an $80 Walmart Cranbrook Cruiser and a 2 stroke 49cc engine mated to a friction drive unit I purchased online. That thing did 34 mph (gps) and it was scary as hell. My Walmart bike was never meant to go that fast. Now I have a 49cc 4 stroke Chinese scooter that I used to ride to work before I retired. It hits 43 mph (gps) and feels a lot more stable at speed. My scoot is pretty heavily modified but is still legal at just 49cc. I love your projects man and..."It'll Be Fine" is a great catch phrase. It is right up there with "Hold My Beer."
definitely needs a second gear! I appreciate and enjoy your videos and you letting people be a part of you guys lives. Gives me all sorts of ideas on builds I want to do. Thanks
Thank you for sharing. A friend of mine had one of those 2 cycle bike engine kits on a bike. He got hit by car in town, he was not hurt but the frame of his bike was pretty messed up. Well he was moving out of state and gave me all kinds of bikes and bike parts, and the one with the bike kit. I put it together on a nice old huffy mountain bike frame and it came out looking sort of like the old 1920 Indian motor cycles. It is black also. Anyhow using my Garmin extrex GPS it clocks out at 36 mph on a flat. Which by the way is pretty scary on an old bicycle. I would love to change the gears and get a lot more hill climbing power. I've got a lot of hills here western Pennsylvania. I have not run the thing in a couple years and I've got a mind to build a motor cycle based on the old Indians. A beefier frame suspension and motorcycle wheels and tires and a 4 cycle with more power. Yea basically a version of the old Indian but with a more modern engine brakes etc. My son had an 85 cc Suzuki motocross bike and the wheel and tire size would be perfect.
Issac once again proves with a little added knowledge n ingenuity he can like always make parts fit and work. He knows how to get the job done love watching his mind solve problems especially in today’s market with parts not quite to snuff. Great video. Bill from ft Wayne
Someone was clocked doing 85 kph in my local town. Now they are considered motorized cycles and you need a license for them. (It only takes one to ruin it for everyone)
I could see it, I put one of the stage 3 2 stroke 80cc bike berry engine on a razor ground force kart and with some one around 100-180 it dose about 60mph, but with someone my size I need to get a push to start moving and does 25-28mph. But I am around 300 lbs lol.
I really appreciate you blazing the trail for me with a CVT mod. I have to get one of these, mod the engine, and install a torque converter. It needs to be able to climb hills and do 45 mph for legal runs to town and back in a State that frowns on minibIkes on roads.
Isaac, the original jackshaft bearing is a 6202. That bearing, is 35 MM outside, and 15 MM inside. There is a 6202 5/8 bearing. Cost me about $14, for four delivered. I am replacing the proprietary jackshaft, with a standard 5/8ths shaft. (I've got 2 bikes to do.) the standard Phatmoto will keep the standard engine, but the phat tire one will get a Tillotson 212 in it. "Thanks Go Power sports!" (Yes, I used your link.) I may put a Sick Bike Parts shifter kit in the black one. (Not the phat tire one.) steve
I bought a 50cc bicycle to motor change over kit a long while back and it went 28mph on a 15speed bicycle. That motor they put on there just is not what it should be.
I just purchased a small 50cc 2 stroke kit off ebay for 105$ put it on a 26" cruiser bike. doing about 35mph. sold it for 400$ and building 2 more now. there pretty fun.
You didn't want you to hear the unsaid or what he said because he was at illegal speeds and Isaac wants to get along with a cop from that neighborhood as we all know he's got a lot of s*** he takes will above where it's supposed to go speedway but not on the road and Don't worry it'll be fine that's how you always says all the time it'll be fine
My 2019 last summer was hitting 37Mph on flat ground just with Governor bypass and 36 tooth sprocket. Exhaust too but I think the exhaust actually makes it slower but sound better and a lot quieter.
how much up hill power loss? i was thinking like 48 or 44t. i changed the freewheel sprocket from 18t? to 16t much better pedaling hills. now if only brakes worked more than 2 hours.🍻
Oh boy, that needs a torque convertor. That stock set-up is great, for about a week. I've had to dial my 212 Predator down, to keep me honest, and out of trouble.
I just purchased a small 50cc 2 stroke kit off ebay for 105$ put it on a 26" cruiser bike. doing about 35mph. sold it for 400$ and building 2 more now. there pretty fun.
I'm disabled I have the phantom Moto but I see all terrain I'm putting a 200cc Honda on it with a torque converter and then adding a sidecar Delta the same style as the phantom Moto flat tire my wheelchair will have a bench seat for my friends to come along as of course do anything less would be against the American disabilities act make it so disabled people can't have friends come along with them
Is there a kit that you can buy for the torque converter swap with the bearing and keyed bolt for the driven pulley, without having to go piece it together at the hardware store ?
I haven't did Torque Converter but upgrade to 203cc Hydraulic Disc Brakes front and back and lowered the sprocket to 40 tooth.Got up to 31 mph and love the hydraulics need torque converter.
Hey brother iv been wanting to do a torque converter on mine also...i bypass the governor and changed the exhaust and carb ...i put a speed carb off one of my 2stroke bikes with a 70 main jet ...stock clutch and a 36t rear sprocket and iv been 47mph ...the stock intake from the 2stroke bike engines will bolt directly to the 79cc lifan head (40mm) intake not the 32...the off set is the best so the carb is out from under the tank and fuel valve ...i had my 212 on it and the power of that motor is crazy fast 55-60 so easy but I broke my stock rear axle and busted the bearing cage out of hub...broke a chain and bearings on jack shaft so I took it back off for now but it's going back on but I'm upgrading all parts first...but I'd love to try a torque converter I know it's got to be way more smooth ...when you change the carb and exhaust your gonna be really flying bud ...iv got the 2020 red one they are very sweet bikes...
Hey man I'm a big fan of the carsandcameras vids as well, I have a question for if you don't mind? Would a mukuni carb work well for my 212 predator on a off road mini bike?
Isaac I highly suggest a governor by pass and I used fishing line hooked to the carburetor to give me some real boost 80cc engine can do a lot more than I expected ungoverned. Havent blown mine up yet and I beat it to hell.
You must have a 5/8" drive pulley coupled to another 5/8" driven pulley and I am wondering if the 669 belt would fit since that is the stock one on the 212cc CVT kit. I suspect that the CVT will eat up some HP on the 79cc engine but a good Mikuni carburetor, int/exh header and further mods on the engine would help. A CVT on a 212cc makes a world of difference so the CVT should really help.
Isaac I would love to get to see you build 120 cc Cub BMX from scratch there is no US builds on CZcams that I have found I think it would be fun to watch and build.
Stock is like a 5 horse Briggs gokart, not bad at all, but tourqe converters are where it's at. Remember when you first discovered a tourqe converter kart? Lol, life changing when you're little.
I think I'm getting ready to try a 70 or 72 rear sprocket for my phat moto for all bottom end and some off road pulling power! And if I'm not satisfied with that Sprocket change I'll just go with the predator 212cc with a stage two three or four kit whatever they have. Has anybody tried or been able to find a bigger rear stock sprocket to fit the phat moto? Sprocket specialties can custom make me one at a pretty reasonable price. I only run cruising about 10 through 12 miles per hour max most all the time.
Isaac, what parts did you use for the conversion? I'm building up my Phat tire off-road PhatMoto, and I want to use that torque converter setup. It will have a Tillotson 212 motor. (THANKS, Go Power Sports) but I want a torque converter system for it. I'll be putting a Sick Bike Parts shifter kit, on my shiny black regular model. There will be no chain on the pedal sprocket. (The pedals will just be footrests.) The jackshaft will have a sprocket on both sides, and the right one will go to the rear wheel. steve
Well your setup would be different than mine. I would use a torq converter to fit the 3/4 shaft on the engine. The jack shaft you would need to go bigger (5/8) shaft. I put go kart hub bearings in the place of the old jackshaft bearings and you will need the other torq converter pulley with a strong bolt to go threw the pully and bearings. Oh yea and a sprocket. Now you need a belt. Gopowersports can figure out the belt size by measuring the pulley sizes and distance. The only problem i had was the wheel sprocket is a little small so it might be geared for 50- 70mph. Lol some people would love that. Good luck
Hello Isaac I am very interested in buying a phatmoto all terrain I was also curious to know if you know would it be possible to put a hub motor on the front wheel could you help me figure that out I live in a burrow then where I would not be able to lock up the bike I like the bike I need it to be Electric
If cars and cameras has taught me anything, its to always remove the gorvner.
I built a motorized bike about 8 years ago using an $80 Walmart Cranbrook Cruiser and a 2 stroke 49cc engine mated to a friction drive unit I purchased online. That thing did 34 mph (gps) and it was scary as hell. My Walmart bike was never meant to go that fast. Now I have a 49cc 4 stroke Chinese scooter that I used to ride to work before I retired. It hits 43 mph (gps) and feels a lot more stable at speed. My scoot is pretty heavily modified but is still legal at just 49cc. I love your projects man and..."It'll Be Fine" is a great catch phrase. It is right up there with "Hold My Beer."
definitely needs a second gear!
I appreciate and enjoy your videos and you letting people be a part of you guys lives. Gives me all sorts of ideas on builds I want to do. Thanks
Want to see more on the Biscayne
Thank you for sharing. A friend of mine had one of those 2 cycle bike engine kits on a bike. He got hit by car in town, he was not hurt but the frame of his bike was pretty messed up. Well he was moving out of state and gave me all kinds of bikes and bike parts, and the one with the bike kit. I put it together on a nice old huffy mountain bike frame and it came out looking sort of like the old 1920 Indian motor cycles. It is black also. Anyhow using my Garmin extrex GPS it clocks out at 36 mph on a flat. Which by the way is pretty scary on an old bicycle. I would love to change the gears and get a lot more hill climbing power. I've got a lot of hills here western Pennsylvania. I have not run the thing in a couple years and I've got a mind to build a motor cycle based on the old Indians. A beefier frame suspension and motorcycle wheels and tires and a 4 cycle with more power. Yea basically a version of the old Indian but with a more modern engine brakes etc. My son had an 85 cc Suzuki motocross bike and the wheel and tire size would be perfect.
Issac once again proves with a little added knowledge n ingenuity he can like always make parts fit and work. He knows how to get the job done love watching his mind solve problems especially in today’s market with parts not quite to snuff. Great video. Bill from ft Wayne
Isaac, You are an artist sir. I love how you make things fit
I guess that is what happens when u work on stuff like that a lot lol
Having the tools helps a ton
Knowing how to use the tools helps even more!
Next we hear Isaac got ticketed for 75 mph on his Phatmoto... Lol
In a 30 zone... 1320 video will be doing a April 1st vid of phatmoto's racing.
czcams.com/video/Eb8wyGb9PHg/video.html
Someone was clocked doing 85 kph in my local town. Now they are considered motorized cycles and you need a license for them. (It only takes one to ruin it for everyone)
I could see it, I put one of the stage 3 2 stroke 80cc bike berry engine on a razor ground force kart and with some one around 100-180 it dose about 60mph, but with someone my size I need to get a push to start moving and does 25-28mph. But I am around 300 lbs lol.
@@Sappingtonsaquatics chances are that 80cc is actually a 66cc stroker to a 100cc with a 50mm piston and balanced crank billet case carb and redvalve
I like the way you shower the greased new chain with grinding grit. It helps with break in.
I really appreciate you blazing the trail for me with a CVT mod. I have to get one of these, mod the engine, and install a torque converter. It needs to be able to climb hills and do 45 mph for legal runs to town and back in a State that frowns on minibIkes on roads.
Was wondering when we would get to see it again. Good job Ike
Isaac, the original jackshaft bearing is a 6202.
That bearing, is 35 MM outside, and 15 MM inside.
There is a 6202 5/8 bearing. Cost me about $14,
for four delivered. I am replacing the proprietary
jackshaft, with a standard 5/8ths shaft. (I've got
2 bikes to do.) the standard Phatmoto will keep
the standard engine, but the phat tire one will get
a Tillotson 212 in it. "Thanks Go Power sports!"
(Yes, I used your link.)
I may put a Sick Bike Parts shifter kit in the
black one. (Not the phat tire one.)
steve
Such a cool Bike Isaac. Can't wait to see the gear change
Ike that is a awesome bike. I love the color and performance!
I can’t believe I just now subbed!I really enjoy your work Issac:)
Subtle music, and a peaceful hum. Relaxing Friday video.
love all your projects,the music was awesome
talk bout quick!! awesome vid Isaac!! cant wait to see it cruz again!!
Love the island music!😎
Nice. Just got my 2 stroke bike build recently.....time for upgrades :)
KT100 That's FAST.. Nice engine mount on that bike. A LONG header pipe very nice. Leathers just maybe.
Sure would be nice if this was in a playlist...
I was looking at one those yesterday, this is gonna be sweet! Continuing the video.....
I bought a 50cc bicycle to motor change over kit a long while back and it went 28mph on a 15speed bicycle. That motor they put on there just is not what it should be.
I just purchased a small 50cc 2 stroke kit off ebay for 105$ put it on a 26" cruiser bike. doing about 35mph. sold it for 400$ and building 2 more now. there pretty fun.
Haha, cranking the Phatom sounds like the intro!
Can’t hear anything what your saying or the Engine because you’ve got Music playing over the top of the video
what do you mean?
You didn't want you to hear the unsaid or what he said because he was at illegal speeds and Isaac wants to get along with a cop from that neighborhood as we all know he's got a lot of s*** he takes will above where it's supposed to go speedway but not on the road and
Don't worry it'll be fine that's how you always says all the time it'll be fine
Grinding on that sprocket gear. Looks like you have been taking machining lessons from the Grind Hard Plumbing guys. LOL!!
Or Mathias Wandel!
I gotta get me and my daughter each one. Looks like fun.👍
Looks like it scoots along pretty good
Very impressive Ike definitely know how to grind a bolt
My 2019 last summer was hitting 37Mph on flat ground just with Governor bypass and 36 tooth sprocket. Exhaust too but I think the exhaust actually makes it slower but sound better and a lot quieter.
how much up hill power loss? i was thinking like 48 or 44t. i changed the freewheel sprocket from 18t? to 16t much better pedaling hills. now if only brakes worked more than 2 hours.🍻
Ike that bike is cool man but I'd still really like to see you catch a fish out at John's pond!
Oh boy, that needs a torque convertor. That stock set-up is great, for about a week. I've had to dial my 212 Predator down, to keep me honest, and out of trouble.
Beautiful garage
Thank you for this video, I have this bike and I was planning to add a torque converter onto it
BTW the engine is a 79 cc lifan engine
I just purchased a small 50cc 2 stroke kit off ebay for 105$ put it on a 26" cruiser bike. doing about 35mph. sold it for 400$ and building 2 more now. there pretty fun.
My brother has a front fork add on for his wheelchair that is electric and it has been clocked at 27mph which looks like twice what that bike goes.
That’s weird my gas scooter does 100 with a wheelchair on it
I got a bike just like that one and my does 26mph stock
My friend's Phatmoto goes 28mph stock. Governor still in it. With me riding, the fatman, it goes 25mph...
I'm disabled I have the phantom Moto but I see all terrain I'm putting a 200cc Honda on it with a torque converter and then adding a sidecar Delta the same style as the phantom Moto flat tire my wheelchair will have a bench seat for my friends to come along as of course do anything less would be against the American disabilities act make it so disabled people can't have friends come along with them
Love the test ride music. :)
Is there a kit that you can buy for the torque converter swap with the bearing and keyed bolt for the driven pulley, without having to go piece it together at the hardware store ?
Good video thanks for sharing
Very cool bike👍😎
love your channel, kinda new here but yeah.
I don't know why but I do enjoy Isaac's videos honestly..
Lol. I dont know why either but thanks
Do you know if this torch converter setup will work on the 2 stock bike motors?
You need to get that Triumph running. True classic
I did it in my last video
anyone here have any advice or recommendations on upgrading the carburetor on this motor? Thanks!
Poor Triumph sulking in the corner."I must be a joke to you"
Sweet bike
That thing is cool💯👍👍
I haven't did Torque Converter but upgrade to 203cc Hydraulic Disc Brakes front and back and lowered the sprocket to 40 tooth.Got up to 31 mph and love the hydraulics need torque converter.
Hey brother iv been wanting to do a torque converter on mine also...i bypass the governor and changed the exhaust and carb ...i put a speed carb off one of my 2stroke bikes with a 70 main jet ...stock clutch and a 36t rear sprocket and iv been 47mph ...the stock intake from the 2stroke bike engines will bolt directly to the 79cc lifan head (40mm) intake not the 32...the off set is the best so the carb is out from under the tank and fuel valve ...i had my 212 on it and the power of that motor is crazy fast 55-60 so easy but I broke my stock rear axle and busted the bearing cage out of hub...broke a chain and bearings on jack shaft so I took it back off for now but it's going back on but I'm upgrading all parts first...but I'd love to try a torque converter I know it's got to be way more smooth ...when you change the carb and exhaust your gonna be really flying bud ...iv got the 2020 red one they are very sweet bikes...
Sure beats walkin’!!!!
It looked a little faster on the top end with the converter on it
since this video, does power sports now have the torque converter package for the phamoto with shafts, bearings without grinding to fit?
Like that shop yo ! ✌
Keep on rockin dudeman
Looks way faster. That jack shaft sprocket was huge
What kind of torque converter an where u get it can't find 1 for splined shaft
Awesomeness, I love it.
Hey man I'm a big fan of the carsandcameras vids as well, I have a question for if you don't mind? Would a mukuni carb work well for my 212 predator on a off road mini bike?
Oh man I wish you could see my home built board track racer bike! I like your bike though I was gonna get a yellow phatmoto bike before
Awesome video!
I removed the governor and re jetted carb. Made a huge difference.
Do you have a link on the front suspension?
Isaac I highly suggest a governor by pass and I used fishing line hooked to the carburetor to give me some real boost 80cc engine can do a lot more than I expected ungoverned. Havent blown mine up yet and I beat it to hell.
Very cool!
You must have a 5/8" drive pulley coupled to another 5/8" driven pulley and I am wondering if the 669 belt would fit since that is the stock one on the 212cc CVT kit.
I suspect that the CVT will eat up some HP on the 79cc engine but a good Mikuni carburetor, int/exh header and further mods on the engine would help. A CVT on
a 212cc makes a world of difference so the CVT should really help.
I checked the Go Power Sports website and can't find that adapter for the 5/8" shaft. Can you tell me the part number or how to get it.
Now a mini mikuni carb, head porting and a exhaust😂💀
Next stop, salt flats! lol
Looked awesome dude! Mucho faster!
I was wondering what happened to this baby. Also liked the Gypsy Jazz music.
What is the front fork? Thought it was cdh power but it looks nicer
I have a Felt e-bike. Expensive, but awesome.
What and where did you get those front forks from ??
Nice
Diggin the fiddle and banjo
Isaac I would love to get to see you build 120 cc Cub BMX from scratch there is no US builds on CZcams that I have found I think it would be fun to watch and build.
You get a lot of brain farts but I loved it keep up the great work bro LOL
Stock is like a 5 horse Briggs gokart, not bad at all, but tourqe converters are where it's at. Remember when you first discovered a tourqe converter kart? Lol, life changing when you're little.
I think I'm getting ready to try a 70 or 72 rear sprocket for my phat moto for all bottom end and some off road pulling power! And if I'm not satisfied with that Sprocket change I'll just go with the predator 212cc with a stage two three or four kit whatever they have. Has anybody tried or been able to find a bigger rear stock sprocket to fit the phat moto? Sprocket specialties can custom make me one at a pretty reasonable price. I only run cruising about 10 through 12 miles per hour max most all the time.
So cool
I keep wondering when you will get into vintage two stroke mopeds. You know, with pedal cranks. My 70cc Kromag can do almost 50.
Nice!
what about throwing a electric hub on the front wheel to make it a hybrid?
Nice maybe I’ll get one
👌👏🤙 to who ever picks your music
Would you make me one of these torque converters exactly like urs with all the parts i would need to install it on my 2021 phatmoto
É muito bonita essa baik motorizada, eu aqui no Brasil, não tenho condição financeira de ter uma dessa!parabéns pela baik
That is a 4stroke one nice i was looking into thease and now that i have money they arent on my mind you need a jack shaft kit and gears
Got that good music going.
On mine the choke was mislabeled and I was running with the chock on. It ran a lot better with the choke off.
Isaac, what parts did you use for the conversion?
I'm building up my Phat tire off-road PhatMoto,
and I want to use that torque converter setup.
It will have a Tillotson 212 motor. (THANKS,
Go Power Sports) but I want a torque converter
system for it.
I'll be putting a Sick Bike Parts shifter kit, on my
shiny black regular model. There will be no chain
on the pedal sprocket. (The pedals will just be
footrests.) The jackshaft will have a sprocket
on both sides, and the right one will go to the
rear wheel.
steve
Well your setup would be different than mine. I would use a torq converter to fit the 3/4 shaft on the engine. The jack shaft you would need to go bigger (5/8) shaft. I put go kart hub bearings in the place of the old jackshaft bearings and you will need the other torq converter pulley with a strong bolt to go threw the pully and bearings. Oh yea and a sprocket. Now you need a belt. Gopowersports can figure out the belt size by measuring the pulley sizes and distance. The only problem i had was the wheel sprocket is a little small so it might be geared for 50- 70mph. Lol some people would love that. Good luck
I want me a phat moto..they look like fast little bikes for what they are
Isaac, you could put a smaller rear sprocket on the back wheel & that would gain you speed......Then u would only have to shorten the chain
Nice vid
That oz thinkin out of the box sq
Too cool 👍👍🇨🇱
The big question is will it do a burnout?
great something else i need
Hello Isaac I am very interested in buying a phatmoto all terrain I was also curious to know if you know would it be possible to put a hub motor on the front wheel could you help me figure that out I live in a burrow then where I would not be able to lock up the bike I like the bike I need it to be Electric
Double thumbs up
Could you please tell me where and what kind of front forks you put on it
They dont make them anymore. The forks were discontinued