Why Do My Traps Hurt? How to Stop the Pain

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  • Why Do My Traps Hurt? How to Stop the Pain
    Bob and Brad discuss why your trapezius muscles may be hurting and how to stop the pain.
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Komentáře • 270

  • @invin7215
    @invin7215 Před 4 lety +181

    This is the most wholesome channel. It's that "hanging out with dad" vibe.

    • @jaybee2402
      @jaybee2402 Před 2 lety

      I'm just happy for anyone who has a Dad both smarter than themselves and caring. Must be the most wonderful feeling.

    • @sophiabadge8551
      @sophiabadge8551 Před 2 lety

      Now I know why I find it so comforting. Thank you! Xx

  • @fatstorvolay2243
    @fatstorvolay2243 Před 2 lety +7

    I pulled my left upper trap 6 days ago, and the pain since has been genuinely excruciating. sitting in my car screaming excruciating! I bought an upper back posture brace today, and it has improved things massively so far. I'll never neglect my upper back, neck, and shoulder posture again!

  • @jeromegoyer537
    @jeromegoyer537 Před 2 lety +5

    I'm so grateful to have found this video! Constant pain for months when I was sitting. Chin tucks and looking at my posture in a mirror as I worked solved my problem in one afternoon. I've been doing this for 14 days now and haven't felt any pain at all.

  • @prozombie6768
    @prozombie6768 Před 5 lety +155

    I’m going through this right now. Once I started controlling my posture I’ve had a lot of relief. Seriously focus on your posture guys.

    • @Lucas-if8wt
      @Lucas-if8wt Před 4 lety +10

      Made it so much worse for me. Try what works for yourself guys, don't feed in to the whole "posture is everything" hype. Nothing against you, just needed to say this

    • @Delpzie
      @Delpzie Před 4 lety +3

      @@Lucas-if8wt Same my posture is totally fine but my middle trap hurts it does when i try to focus and play full focus and i move my mouse a lot i dont understand why i didnt have this before ever.

    • @monvibestudio6141
      @monvibestudio6141 Před 4 lety

      @Vortex hey what did you do? what kind of treatment did you have?

    • @prozombie6768
      @prozombie6768 Před 4 lety +5

      I also found out it’s just tight traps. Turning my head left to right stretching traps helped more than posture. I’m not dealing with pain and numbness anymore.

    • @monvibestudio6141
      @monvibestudio6141 Před 4 lety

      @Vortex thanks man! i'll check it

  • @hubbabfazal539
    @hubbabfazal539 Před 4 lety +75

    Anyone in Lockdowns🤗 may you get rid of your pain☺

    • @hubbabfazal539
      @hubbabfazal539 Před 4 lety +1

      @@bonnienadinenewman welcome bro.. I will pray for you💓

    • @sp8602
      @sp8602 Před 3 lety +2

      How it can be cured😪😪

    • @hubbabfazal539
      @hubbabfazal539 Před 3 lety +2

      @@sp8602 bro take Inflamatix 100 ml, Tablets Neuberol forte and Dowfen Gel.. tablets one morning time and one night time and use the gel on infected part

    • @suzsterj
      @suzsterj Před 3 lety

      Link to device please 🙏

  • @Jamesfisher0000
    @Jamesfisher0000 Před 3 lety +23

    Thank you so much! I was in pain daily I mean nearly hospitalized but for you guys and these easy steps helped me stay out of the hospital! The skills i learned I shared with my family and friends, thanks docs for helping me!

    • @BobandBrad
      @BobandBrad  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you for sharing your story !

  • @abbynormal7525
    @abbynormal7525 Před 5 lety +30

    The tennis ball saved me . I had such pain from my trapp. I do the tennis ball treatment every day.

  • @ramonmaduena958
    @ramonmaduena958 Před 5 lety +19

    I needed this topic so bad, thank you for bringing up this topic. I have been dealing with trapezius pain for years.

  • @frAnkie252473
    @frAnkie252473 Před 4 lety +10

    Bad posture is definitely what’s giving my pain in my shoulders. I need to try these techniques for straightening out my posture. Thanks!!

  • @stellabellafontay9366
    @stellabellafontay9366 Před 2 lety +4

    First it was my sciatic nerve and days ago my Trapezius muscles are screaming with pain and in knots. Binge watching all of your videos. Thank you.

  • @Goval400
    @Goval400 Před 4 lety +18

    Going through traps soreness now, upper right side and it even hurts when I turn my head. I had to stop training for this week (jiu jitsu) and im just resting but i will start doing the tennis ball thing as soon as I get home tonight. Thank you for sharing this!

  • @growinggenerationshomestea516

    Your tennis ball for hump has changed my life. I was injured in a wreck and had it within 3 weeks following . No dr would help. The exercise released my shoulder after 4 years. After a week the hump is gone but I'm left with trap pain that's horrendous. I can feel it creep up to tense up. Can't wait to try these exercises. It is extremely hard to extend my head back or up. I have till January till I see a Dr and I hope I can heal lots and be ready for my neck surgery.

  • @mr.physio
    @mr.physio Před 5 lety +11

    Traps often get sore when it is stretched out too much due to your neck and shoulder going forward. So you need to target those muscles that bring your neck and shoulders like pec SCM and even Rotator cuffs in order to fix the problem permenantly.

  • @moggridge1
    @moggridge1 Před 5 lety +36

    Brad, the way you carry that backpack so expertly makes me think you could be America's first man on Mars 👍👩‍🚀
    "Houston, we have a problem...in the upper traps."

  • @Philyra86
    @Philyra86 Před 4 měsíci

    And once again i have to thank you guys. Years ago a video of yours helped me get rid of the backpain i had for more than a week.
    Now, it was my left trap that was hurting since march 5th.
    Just 2 times of using the tennisball and i'm pain free.
    I did use them on the bed, so it was a bit softer, but nevertheless you guys saved me from hurting once again.
    Thank you Thank you Thank you🌞

  • @holasephy3468
    @holasephy3468 Před 4 lety +2

    This video saved me. I’ve been paranoid because my neck pains for months now and I even thought it was my lymph nodes that are swollen until I learned about the trapezius muscle. I am really immobile, I just lay all day and watch on my phone. I barely move so I realized it was the problem.

  • @charlesmckinley29
    @charlesmckinley29 Před 2 lety +1

    Laying in bed staring at my phone is what caused my pain last night.

  • @Unnamed-hs5hg
    @Unnamed-hs5hg Před 2 lety

    this is the best channel for me, an athlete who commonly gets a lot of injuries. Everytime I get injured, I go here. I got injured on my knees, back, shoulders, and now my traps 😅 (I work a lot)- Got these injuries in a span of 10 years on different sports

  • @scwheeler24
    @scwheeler24 Před 5 lety +11

    Slight scoliosis can cause problems in that area as well. I use a heat pad similar to theirs and a shiatsu massager. Those help tremendously

    • @ccorsen6467
      @ccorsen6467 Před 4 lety +3

      I have a slight scoliosis and my traps often burn and when its not traps burning usually the bottom of my skull/top o the neck around suboccipital muscles really hurt almost sending headaches. Care to elaborate, please? I think it might help :)

    • @lst_sunrise
      @lst_sunrise Před 4 lety

      @@ccorsen6467
      You explained that better than I have ever been able to. Thank you

  • @ranch5411
    @ranch5411 Před 4 lety +1

    I pulled one of my traps minorly last week and wow the worst pain in my life I couldn't move even a centimeter this help so much thank you

  • @HylianEvil
    @HylianEvil Před 5 lety +85

    Man, Brad is looking beefy.

  • @suhasinimadhuryachennubhot9342

    I realised my posture is way too bad and thats the reason my traps pain like hell and are sore all the time. This video really helped me.

  • @chriswuzhere91
    @chriswuzhere91 Před 2 lety

    These guys deserve all the money in the world, real heroes

  • @CC-wolverine
    @CC-wolverine Před 5 lety +34

    Yes sir my right side of my traps been killing me for years still trying to get rid of the pain. Deep muscle massage only thing really helps but it's like a bandaid only helps for so long before in pain again.

    • @shannon4078
      @shannon4078 Před 3 lety +5

      Same issue - a knot in my right - mid trap that never goes away for long. I've learned to stretch it by doing that weird twist action with a wall, and a shiatsu massager. only lasts a day or two. I've had the pain for 14 years and can't seem to fix it. So irritating.

    • @susanrice3166
      @susanrice3166 Před 3 lety

      Same :(

    • @LisaWilcox
      @LisaWilcox Před 3 lety +1

      Same on my left side

    • @Cert_t
      @Cert_t Před 3 lety +1

      bruh i got the same thing i be having chest numbness n sht

    • @nonyobussiness3440
      @nonyobussiness3440 Před 3 lety +1

      @@shannon4078 stretch everyday and weight train

  • @nassermj7671
    @nassermj7671 Před 5 lety +10

    For those who believe in natural living, I am learning a lot from this dynamic duo. Glad I subd.

  • @sophiabadge8551
    @sophiabadge8551 Před 2 lety

    I always come to this channel when I have a migraine. I instantly feel a little better when I hear their jingle. Where can I get one of those t shirts, Brad?

  • @nadinesteidl6153
    @nadinesteidl6153 Před 5 lety

    You guys are the best. Really. Best regards from the middle-aged disabled lady. I’m one in a million Stiff Person Syndrome patient.

  • @willhub
    @willhub Před 3 lety +2

    I've got really REALLY bad upper neck pain especially when I cycle and the knots it feels like the Himalayas, I've gone to the doctors and the NHS physio says "oh that's just stress" , I can't for one second believe my really stiff cracking neck and knotted traps are "just stress" !?!?

  • @wizdomtrust1596
    @wizdomtrust1596 Před 3 lety

    You guys aren't my style, but I thoroughly enjoy your banter and solid information. Posts like this show that you don't have to style mesh to vibe. 100

  • @MrHotheadalex
    @MrHotheadalex Před 5 lety +31

    Ohhh snap.....look at the guns of brad !! At his age he is having such guns..... amazing !!

    • @cajh9993
      @cajh9993 Před 4 lety +2

      Lol! I just noticed that! 😂😂😂

    • @erigeeka
      @erigeeka Před 4 lety

      Yea, they both look so great. I have no clue how old they are but you can tell they take such great care of themselves. Very inspiring to desk jockeys like myself.

  • @sgn8826
    @sgn8826 Před 3 lety +1

    *throws ball behind back * “I knew he was gonna do that”🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

  • @lucasmuraro9985
    @lucasmuraro9985 Před 3 lety

    I cannot believe I just discovered this channel now! I love those guys

  • @Moue666
    @Moue666 Před rokem

    I used to one strap my backpack when going to uni, lots of weight on my right trap and shoulder. The muscles are vrry stiff on my right side, my right arm definitely is more stiff when I walk compared to my left arm swinging.

  • @phyeelmajiqphyeelmajiq5860

    Wow! that IS what’s been bothering me. How did you know?

  • @navie985
    @navie985 Před 4 lety +1

    Omg ypu just saved my one month pain in just 5 min thanks tennis ball really helped and it shows magic in just 5 min

  • @maithilypatel104
    @maithilypatel104 Před 4 lety +2

    You guys are amazing ! Your every video guides so well, is fun and totally works ! :) This happened the second time that the pain cured for me right away! You guys motivate people to do it the right way! Thank you

  • @AllQuiltedTogetherLLC
    @AllQuiltedTogetherLLC Před 5 lety +3

    I’m currently in PT and my therapist uses all these techniques. They work!! The only thing else I can say is try the KT tape to help posture support!! Great job showing all the tricks bob and brad!

  • @Wickedstickyflowers
    @Wickedstickyflowers Před 2 lety

    I think your spot on about the posture thing . You don’t even notice your doing it

  • @carpenter155
    @carpenter155 Před 3 lety

    The world would fall into obscurity with these two!!!

  • @etherealdeal1792
    @etherealdeal1792 Před 5 lety +3

    You’re so right about the posture. Thank u for this video. You guys are awesome. Thx for sharing the chin tucks. I gotta get a deflated ball...rolling around the tennis ball feels awesome

  • @ToonX
    @ToonX Před 2 lety

    OMG the best intro ever

  • @carwerks101
    @carwerks101 Před 2 lety +1

    This is a chronic pain for me, it initially happened when I was laying on my back doing airplane with my son on my feet, it’s a lot of pain and it seems to be triggered for no reason now

  • @LoveABun
    @LoveABun Před 5 lety +1

    For those with cats, dogs, rabbits... check out the Thermotex products for pets! The beds and pad would give tremendous relief to animals with osteoarthritis!!!

  • @saurabhkesharwani6143
    @saurabhkesharwani6143 Před 3 lety

    Thank You for showing the desk and sharing the link! 👍🏼

  • @brandonbarbieri9069
    @brandonbarbieri9069 Před 3 lety +3

    I used to lift heavy stuff and now I have this sharp popping strain in my right trap. It's been ongoing for a month. It reaggrevates when I stand and do repetitive motions for too long

    • @asifmohd9177
      @asifmohd9177 Před 2 lety

      Is it fine now?

    • @brandonbarbieri9069
      @brandonbarbieri9069 Před 2 lety +2

      @@asifmohd9177 it's only aggravated when standing for long periods of time or working after like 4 hours. I was a cashier and using repetitive motions triggered it after a while. Physical therapy didn't really help. It just takes time

  • @cinnamongirl3070
    @cinnamongirl3070 Před 2 lety

    Stretch the tight muscles, strengthen the weak muscles. Posture improves and pain disappears simultaneously...

  • @magickitchen54
    @magickitchen54 Před rokem

    I appreciate this channel SO much. Thanks for everything you do

  • @lorraine9841
    @lorraine9841 Před 5 lety +7

    I’m definitely going to buy some tennis balls now

  • @frispell
    @frispell Před 3 lety

    I use the tennis ball in the wall and use that to rub in the area affected. Best thing for sore traps

  • @Ikimasho_official
    @Ikimasho_official Před rokem

    I've been having pain in my upper back and neck for almost a month after pulling a trap. I tried almost everything, especially fixing my posture. It wasn't until I watched this video and tried the last movement with the ball and six spots. I can turn my neck without pain again. Thank you so much

  • @SUPERCORPSunday
    @SUPERCORPSunday Před 4 lety +1

    Trapezius both side hurt and it hurt worst when i stand long for work it also make me feel tired .

  • @user-ss1jf1df4u
    @user-ss1jf1df4u Před 2 měsíci

    Any tips for posture when riding in a van?

  • @cs8782
    @cs8782 Před 5 lety +5

    I love you guys!

  • @seahorse5689
    @seahorse5689 Před 5 lety +1

    What perfect timing of your video on traps. Am having so many issues with my upper traps now. Have one of those Varidesks at work, but unfortunately it doesn't go high enough for me--I end up looking down at my computer monitors and that kills my neck. Anyway, overall good tips. Thanks.

  • @shoppersdrugmartcanuck
    @shoppersdrugmartcanuck Před 3 lety +1

    I'd love to see a video of your thoughts on the electronic posture corrector devices! The little ones that vibrate if you slouch

  • @asianslayer555
    @asianslayer555 Před 2 lety

    Cannot get tired of the intro

  • @bahamutkaiser
    @bahamutkaiser Před 2 lety

    What about pull up caused trap/neck pain

  • @lucyluz8344
    @lucyluz8344 Před 5 lety

    I have 2 bulging disc in my neck and a condition called myofascial syndrome disorder. My neck and traps are always inflamed. I use to get trigger point injections until the last one I received made my lung collapse. So I had to learn new ways to cope with the pain. No more needles just relax practice your breathing while you stretch

    • @hanv1025
      @hanv1025 Před 4 lety

      Whoa how does that even happen? The lung collapse, I mean

  • @smittynumber1812
    @smittynumber1812 Před 5 lety +6

    I found that whenever I stop working out for about a month or so, my posture issues come back and my upper back hurts

    • @ladybunlizard5368
      @ladybunlizard5368 Před 4 lety

      Smitty Number1 that totally makes sense bc you are losing muscle hence the muscles become weaker so it’s harder to maintain proper posture.

    • @eezy251able
      @eezy251able Před 4 lety +1

      @@ladybunlizard5368 losing muscle? 🤔

  • @benjaminreyes3624
    @benjaminreyes3624 Před rokem

    Im constantly looking down at my phone.. I mean constantly.. that would be bad posture. I need to stop.

  • @rachelring2542
    @rachelring2542 Před 5 lety +1

    I am constantly stiff and sore in this area.

  • @melpost8117
    @melpost8117 Před 3 lety

    Experience this alot in my kneck and head

  • @GeorgianaOnline
    @GeorgianaOnline Před 3 lety

    I get a pulled trap on the regular, just doing... nothing! In fact, I woke up Jan 1 in horrible pain and unable to move much. (That should have been a big hint at how 2020 was going to go!) It always seems to happen when I’ve been lying down. I guess it could be posture, although I do try to sit up straight when I’m working. I guess I’m guilty like everyone else of craning my neck to jack with my phone... like now. 😊 Thanks, Bob and Brad!

  • @HeavyToad
    @HeavyToad Před 2 lety +1

    Pulled my trap when I was sleeping

  • @ValuableObjective
    @ValuableObjective Před 4 lety +1

    I have this constantly after every upper body workout, riding a bike even. (Due to my bad posture and muscle weakness related to it). My question is: Will this put me at a risk of an injury or can I push through with my workout (mainly pull ups) and just stretch out, massage in between workouts. Correcting my posture and strengthening scapular muscles at the same time. Or should I rather just ditch working out all together and just focus on correcting my posture (I would very much like to not do that.) Thank you anyone for answering.

  • @ismybannerblackorred6700
    @ismybannerblackorred6700 Před 3 lety +1

    It’s my school bag man it’s so heavy

  • @debstayblessed9549
    @debstayblessed9549 Před 5 lety +1

    Excellent techniques & demonstrations. Works for me 🍅🍓🍒🍎

  • @anujshah6597
    @anujshah6597 Před rokem

    Posture super important. Also strengthening. I got a pair of 10-pound weights, and just holding them out in front (or sides like T position) you realize how quickly that ur traps are weak (specially for my left side, right side compensates)

  • @REDMAN298
    @REDMAN298 Před 3 lety

    Chin tucks. Works for me! Thanks guys.

  • @rebekahjlewis
    @rebekahjlewis Před rokem +1

    Hi, you guys...thank you! I cannot find the exact thermotex heater that you are using...the link is broken and I can't find it anywhere else. Help! :)

    • @Stigz34
      @Stigz34 Před 6 měsíci

      Same, can’t find it

  • @Unnamed-hs5hg
    @Unnamed-hs5hg Před 2 lety

    will the foam roll work in replacement for the ball?

  • @patiotapioca
    @patiotapioca Před 3 lety

    Can snoring and sleep apnea result in neck and trapezius pain?

  • @frispell
    @frispell Před 3 lety

    Sucks is about every year I go through a month of so of just back pain that seems I need to adjust my chair. I do then its all out of whack. I figure is something else. Trying the posture thing though.

  • @gorilladogmotherturtlebum769

    My right back trap hurts when im tense it burns and a long lump pops up on the sore spot ive tried massaging it out but doesn't go away I've had this for about 20 years...so painful

  • @Maggiemae33
    @Maggiemae33 Před 5 lety +2

    Perfect timing! Thank you.

  • @sergiothephotographer
    @sergiothephotographer Před 5 lety +3

    Great addition of showing the muscle graphic, thank you!

  • @conniebond6327
    @conniebond6327 Před 4 lety

    I like using the tennis ball with sock and do standing up against a wall.

  • @jineshisu
    @jineshisu Před 4 lety +3

    Since car accident in 2018 ; when I lay on my back ( left trap & side of chest under arms ) I get a numbing/achy/slight burning feeling that gets relieved by stretching and of course getting off that muscle. This gets triggered when I put pressure on to it. Lately rarely does it just ache or give me the tiniest feeling that it’s super sensitive to the touch. Don’t know if it’s getting better with another years time. But I’ll try these exercises, the two PT’s and MRI’s I’ve had done has not given me my life back and my patience is starting to wear out. 😣 #mentallytired

    • @nabil5275
      @nabil5275 Před 3 lety +1

      Same with you, I've got this pain from car accident 2 years ago. The pain is excruciating. I Can't sleep well every night. I Can't sitting for too long because the pain will flare up. Everyday i live in agony. I hate this :(

  • @princeekeson12
    @princeekeson12 Před 4 lety

    Softballs, baseballs, and lacrosse balls work also. Thanks guys.👏👍

  • @Jenoveryonder
    @Jenoveryonder Před rokem

    Does sleeping in a hammock hurt your posture?

  • @bluejay5531
    @bluejay5531 Před 5 lety +2

    you guys are great! thank you!

  • @yogalinemeunier799
    @yogalinemeunier799 Před 5 lety +3

    That is why Yoga is so important for the posture

    • @emilinebelle7811
      @emilinebelle7811 Před 5 lety

      Studio Yoga Parinama have any beginner videos to recommend? I’ve been trying to find good beginner yoga tutorials on CZcams and not having much luck.

    • @yogalinemeunier799
      @yogalinemeunier799 Před 5 lety

      Emily Autumn it’s coming soon. We work on it. Have a good day. Namaste

  • @dcb6729
    @dcb6729 Před 5 lety

    My shoulder knots is causeing refured pain to head and face. It suck trying to sleep with that going on.

  • @Lizzmonsterr
    @Lizzmonsterr Před 5 lety

    Thanks for all the help 😊

  • @leylaaa2393
    @leylaaa2393 Před 3 lety

    Great video

  • @cdf5719
    @cdf5719 Před 4 lety

    I wish I could afford that heating pad! Holy moly. I have chronic neck and shoulder pain with headaches daily. My posture is complete garbage, do you recommend a brace for bad posture at all? I try to keep up with the stretches but my neck is so weak.👎

  • @eezy251able
    @eezy251able Před 4 lety +1

    You're both the wrong way around on camera. Its Bob and Brad, not Brad and Bob 😂😂

  • @nataliaramirez1290
    @nataliaramirez1290 Před rokem

    How are you supposed to sleep with a pain like this? 😭 I think I injured by left trap doing something in the gym, it's been a week and I thought it was getting better but it's bad again. My neck hurts so bad! Should I sleep on the other side even if I feel it stretch the injury weirdly, on top of the injured side, maybe on my back?

  • @LoveABun
    @LoveABun Před 5 lety +3

    The Thermotex link does not include a backpack-type model like what Brad is wearing. Where does one get this?
    I’m definitely going to buy a Thermotex unit as I have had aching and burning in that area for 1.5 yrs now. Have seen all kinds of specialists, a PT, had lots of expensive imaging done, and 2 steroid shots in the thoracic spine. No one has said anything about the trap causing it. They have no idea what the cause is!
    Can people get arthritis in the thoracic spine that would cause aching and burning?

    • @BobandBrad
      @BobandBrad  Před 5 lety

      You have to go through our channel. look below our video and click on SHOW MORE to get to the link.

  • @shalacarter6658
    @shalacarter6658 Před 5 lety

    Thanks, guys for the cool info. my right trap is in bad pain right now. I have C6/C7 ablation in the morning! :)

  • @rishikaupadhyay1094
    @rishikaupadhyay1094 Před 3 lety

    Sir I have pain in my trapezius muscle pain . I am taking medicine and doing stretching but no relief and it*s not hurt while rotating my neck

  • @kathleenmclain9856
    @kathleenmclain9856 Před 3 lety

    I've done so many of Bob & Brad's stretches to relief my headaches that I've now cause extreme tension in my traps :(

  • @tjtampa214
    @tjtampa214 Před 5 lety

    Wish I knew about that tennis ball trick when I was younger and could crawl around on the floor. Thanks guys.

    • @Tk-iz2ws
      @Tk-iz2ws Před 5 lety +1

      You can still do it up and down the wall. Or back and forth. Holding onto a chair use it on the bottom of you foot.

  • @pcharm3711
    @pcharm3711 Před 2 lety

    DOCTOR PLEASE HELP ME!
    WHATS THE BEST WAY TO SLEEP WITH THIS KNOT???

  • @hawaiian-cerveza
    @hawaiian-cerveza Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for the info.

  • @mhuie
    @mhuie Před 5 lety +1

    Your link for the thermotex below your video does not show any unit that is worn like a back pack as the one is in the video. Did you somehow modify the thermotex or can you clarify which one to purchase?

  • @donalddifuntorum5200
    @donalddifuntorum5200 Před 4 lety

    awesome information as always!

  • @adamburgess7890
    @adamburgess7890 Před 3 lety

    I can't feel my right trap at all. Any ideas? Only time I can feel it is when it's in pain

  • @amijacobs1440
    @amijacobs1440 Před 5 lety

    I do the stretch with the deflated ball on the floor (instead of in a chair) & just relax into the stretch. Easier on my neck...

  • @IAmNoeyes
    @IAmNoeyes Před 4 lety

    Thanks for these tips.