Hamza & James : Who Authored The Qur'an? Part 2
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Born into Islam? I was born in the Southeastern U.S. in a white Christian Conservative family and went to a Christian Academy where I graduated with a 4.0GPA. I am also open minded and can think for myself....thinking for myself Allah lead me to Islam and I found the truth and made the decision to become Muslim alhamdulillah.
When man want to be ignorant he will never except the truth as James..he refute himself but he didn't notice May Allah gide him
If that's so, then you're an outlier.
An outlier from Christians who were born into their faith you mean?
Share your journey please!
What does your GPA have to do with it? Faith is completely independent of education or IQ. Some of the academically smartest people in the world are religious, others are not; many impoverished, poorly educated communities are religious too. Belief transcends academia - it's more an issue of culture and cognition. If you're wired to believe this stuff, you will. I'm an atheist because I've never heard a convincing reason to believe in a monotheistic God. All religion is subjective, it has nothing to with GPA scores.
Born into Islam? I didnt even know much about Islam my entire life nor did I ever meet any practicing Muslims my entire life. I was a Roman catholic Canadian born man for 33yrs before I took my Shahada in my 36th yr. I'll be 40 this year. This is the most spiritually strong,peaceful, patient version of myself I have ever been. Alhamdulilah
May Allah Azawajal keep you on the right path. Ameen
EFDawah Ameen akhi. JazakAllahu Khair
@@EFDawah
Ameen ya Rabbi 🤲🏼
He wasn't talkng about you though was he? Why do you feel the need to tell your story?
@@justanumber5674 because he drag everyone he say you are muslim by birth that's why you defend your belief so it is responsibility for all revert muslim to say this is not true.
James is the ideal example of the people Allah told us whose fitrah has been changed to an extent that everything that's a sign of belief starts to look as a sign of disbelief.
Mashallah. This is a sign that strengthens my belief. Alhamdulillah.
Why did Allah do that to him?
James' point is really simple. Allah can't add up. If there's a simple Mathematical mistake in the Quran and he's pointed that there clearly is one, then it can't be from an all-knowing Creator. Hamza's points are irrelevant distractions and deflections.
Hello Hamza, I'm a Muslim from California and you as well as all of the other brothers at speaker's corner have taught me so much. JazakAllah.
How is the bay area akhi
I don't live in the bay area but I do have family there. In my opinion it is not the best place for a family. It is very crowded and very expensive. It is a very nice place to visit and there are alot of cool things to do and there are alot of jobs and big corporatoins there, but not so much to live. And it is always either cold or cool. Even in the summer it can get foggy in the morning.
@@rumzih9179 ok akhi.any plan to make hijra someday ?
InshaAllah. I'm still a kid. But definitely one day, yes InshaAllah.
@@rumzih9179 lol how old
this video increased my iman a lot Alhamdulillah. جزاکم الله خیرا
Super ✨ We want to see the spark of Truth 🔥 everywhere so we can't regret to spread d correct message. May ALLAH gives us Paradise
LOTS OF LOVE 💕
Same thing bro
How? James demonstrates quite clearly that Allah can't add up. The Quran is therefore not from God. Hamza's response is a dishonest deflection and strawman of James' position.
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"~ Albert Einstein
Alhamdolilah another educating video thank you brothers, may allah reward you brother hamza , much greetingz from the Netherlands. Peace and assalamou 3alaikom.
How is netherland akhi
AND THE DOCTOR TOO :)
Whereabouts in the Nederland?
@@ontariostreets4470 the Netherlands is a nice country akhi
@@minarchowdhury7620 absolutely the doctor too
Pretty much his argument over and over is, "There is not evidence that he did that but you never know." You can't make arguments based on something you can't prove.
@create your emotion
1)False. There were no mathematical errors in the verse. What James did was point out specific scenarios where the fractions wouldn't divide into 1, which Islamic Jurisprudence worked out long ago how to apply the verse in those scenarios. Which is fine because Islamic Jurisprudence doesn't come solely from the Quran.
2)James has already been explained this by Mohammed Hijab, and yet he just wants to troll this same issue to different speakers (not as versed on Inheritance) with no interest in learning about the background of the Prophet (pbuh), which clearly shows James disingenuous nature.
3)And no, not all sources are biased. Many non Muslims have studied and commented on Muhammad (pbuh) without coming to the conclusion that he was a liar, and in fact concluding that he was a Great human being. But learning about Islam from Christians out to prove Muhammad (pbuh) either was a liar, or got his revelations from the Devil, is obviously a disingenuous place to start. On the other hand if you learn from knowledgeable Muslims, we've already seen they are not going to lie about what's in the Quran as MH truthfully told James this was worked out later and truthfully explained that's how Islamic Jurisprudence works.
@create your emotion This verse should explain it well (quran 3:7) ''It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muḥammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allāh. But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding.''
Some verses in the Qur'an are made to be unspecific and unclear on purpose. Don't forget this life is a test
@create your emotion he is a troll
@create your emotion
To clearfy something, Allah(GOD) didn't mention that it shouldn't go above 100% (or 1) , or less 100% (or 1)- if he did then you can COMPLAIN
And to clear that issue that you think it's is .. what if a dead man had only 1 daughter, does she only get 50% of inheritance (according to Quran ) ?? What about the other 50% ?
Of his LOGIC (James), u can get and bring lots of issues of that part of verses tho like above question I asked .not just the one he qouted ..
So to clearfy you regarding James question, answer me the first above, u will get ur answer (James question) 50%, and rest I will show it ☺️
Agnostic/ christian James is "representing" Sunni Islam consensus. 🤣😂🤣😂
Now I've heard it all.
You can tell James will go into detail of a Mars bar and debate and argue about a Mars bar
Imran is a legend and an actual genius!! very polite too May Allah bless him grant him and brother Hamza ( The Lion) Janat Al Firdaws
James claim already been refuted, I quote...
Let me first extract the translation that have provided from Adullah Yusuf Ali for verse 4:11; and 4:12. I quote;
“(Koran 4:11)
Allah directs you as regards your children's (Inheritance): to the male a portion equal to that of two females: if only daughters, two ormore, Their share is two-thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her, share is a half. For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased left children; if no children, and the parents are the heirs, the mother has a third; if the deceased left brothers the mother has a sixth...
(Koran 4:12)
In what your wives leave, your share is a half, if they leave no child; but if they leave a child, ye get a fourth; after payment of legacies and debts. In what ye leave, their share is a fourth, If ye leave no child; but if ye leave a child, they get an eighth; after payment.”
Now your claim is that, according to the above verses, if a man dies and leaves three daughters, two parents and his wife, three daughters together will receive 2/3 of the share, the parents will receive 1/3 of the share and the wife will receive 1/8 of the share.
If you read the Qur’an in Arabic you will see that at the beginning of 4.11 Allah uses the plural word in Arabic ‘awlaad’ for “…your children’s (inheritance)…” but then Allah uses the singular word in ‘walad’ for “…if the deceased left a child...” Therefore, the above translation, ‘if the deceased left children’, is incorrect as the Qur’an uses the word walad and not awlaad, and walad is the Arabic word for a child, or one child, where as awlaad is the word for more than one child or children. Pickthall and many other Quran translators have given a proper translation.
Now let us look at 4.11 a little closer. We are told that two or more daughters (if and only if the man dies with no sons) will receive 2/3’s of the man’s inheritance. We are also told that the parents will receive a sixth (1/6) of the man’s inheritance if the deceased left a child (not children) (to each, thus we take 1/6 + 1/6 = 2/6 or 1/3). In the example that you provided, there are more than one child. Therefore, the Quran does not fix here the share of the parents as 1/3 in this particular instance. The share of the wife will be 1/8 as per verse 4:12.
Now let us test this out. Let’s use the scenario stated by you. A man dies and leaves behind three daughters, his parents, and a wife. Because we are not told what his parents will get if he haschildren,we must then substitute a variable in place of his parents, and we get the following simple equation: 2/3 (for daughters from verse 4:11) + 1/8 (for wife from verse 4.12) + X (for parents) = 1 (using 1 as 100% the man’s wealth) Let’s solve this.
2/3 + 1/8 = 19/24
19/24 + X = 1
X = 1 - 19/24
X = 5/24
And this works as 2/3 + 1/8 + 5/24 is indeed equal to 1.
I hope that you now understood how to distribute wealth in the given scenario provided by you. Now let us look at the second claim.
You also claim that there is a further discrepancy in this matter in the case of a man who leaves a mother, a wife, and two sisters. You are arguing that if the allotted shares are added up the total exceeds the total estate, i.e, 1/3 (mother) + 2/3 (sisters) + 1/4 (wife) = 5/4 = 1.25 will be more than the available property.
You are again mistaken. To arrive at the said allotted shares, here you refers to the shares allotted in Surah 4, verse 176 of the Qur’an. You have conveniently quoted only part of the verse (“...If it is a man that dies, leaving a sister but not child) Please take the Quran and check what is there in the dotted portion. I will quote for you the entire verse.
“Allah directs (thus) about those who leave no descendants or ascendants as heirs. If it is a man that dies, leaving a sister but no child, she shall have half the inheritance: If a woman dies and leaves no child, her brother takes her inheritance: If there are two sisters, they shall have two-thirds of the inheritance. If there are brothers and sisters, the male takes twice the share of the female.
In the above verse, the case described is that of a man who is called in Arabic "kalalah" which is correctly translated by Yusuf Ali as one who leaves "no descendants or ascendants." This ayah refers to a man who leaves neither parent nor child. At the time of his death his mother already lays in her own grave and as such can lay no claim to a share of inheritance. Then how can you come with an example of a man leaving behind a mother, two sisters and wife and then evolve your fantasies based on this verse?
subhanallah
Ma sha Allah brother may Allah bless you
Salam mu alakkum aki
Thank you for the clarification
Thanks, that makes PERFECT SENSE
I had to read your comment multiple times to understand it well. I must applaud your analysis. Thank you.
I live in Morocco and there is an Exam on Islamic education where there is questions about heritage ( you get a situation of a family and have to give the shares) , all these questions are based on this Ayat , so if there was any contradiction we would've come across long ago because the point of the exam is to give the weirdest situations possible , and btw in Arabic its amazing how precise it is while still being very concise so however complicated the situation is you just repeat these Ayat and get the answer.
When James feels cornered, start reading without stop/sens from his sources.. BTW, brother Hashim slapped him when he made up things about Adam AS. And he admitted that his assumptions (from Christian background) are wrong.. And stopped laughing like he did all conversations time.
But I have this feeling, he is not an agnostic, but an undercover man with agenda.
Assalamu aleikum from Italy.
James admitted he was wrong. That is something good. This shows that he is sincere. But on this inheritance issue he is not proven wrong.
وعليكم السلام من العراق
@@pas7768 checkout the comment from omar
lets say we have 99 pounds. if we give 2/3 away, a 1/3 remains (= 33 pound). if we give (1/6 + 1/6= 1/3) of the 33 pounds, we still have 22 pound. So when Quran said give 2/6 away, it means 2/6 from the rest not from the initially wealth. i hope i could explain it :)
Exactly! What these smart alecs dont get is that if every relative were to get an equal amount, then Allah swt would have said as much in the quran! Y go into fractions then?
Somebody noticed? brother Imran got the answer. Masha Allah
Alhamdulillah... May Allah swt bless you guys for your effort
The crazy nervous smirk on his face sums it all up at 29:13
He seems to be brother of lizzie..i hope everyone understands
Assalamualaikum from Malaysia
ما شاء الله لا حول و لا قوة الا بالله
جزاكم الله خيرا
Thank you very much for your efforts brother Hamzah and your team may Allah swt grant you Jannat ul-firdaws and your team.
James true colours exposed, barakullaahu fee kum for the clips
Cov FF Channel exactly !
Balerion The Black Dread Hamza is Hamza ur just angry he exposed a person you probably look up to
Balerion The Black Dread Cuz the guy has been refuted so many times and he comes again and again. Why should Hamza give him the time of day? And they have answered him the only reason he doesn't accept it is because it doesn't suit his agenda... when they ask James about his source he brings up wiki islam really?! a website that anybody can edit is a strong source?? Lol
Balerion The Black Dread James is claiming there was a mistake Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him made... So where's the proof he just says I read tafsir do you know how many tafsir books there are in Islam? If it was a mistake why didn't the Kaliphs change it? Why didn't the Prophet's enemies use that as an excuse to attack Mohammed peace be upon him? Unless you're James don't try to make excuses for him about using wiki islam seriously it's embarrassing.
Balerion The Black Dread that Im sorry is the stupidest excuse ever made... I asked you why didn't the enemies of Islam bring it up and ur telling because it was memorized they couldn't change it? Lol you're claiming there's a mistake alright what's your proof that it was a mistake? Just because people had a problem with an issue doesn't make the issue a mistake it means they didn't understand the issue that's why they went to the Kalifs ( companions of the prophet). Calling an issue a mistake without solid proof is a subjective opinion to suit a certain agenda... since ur making the claim bring forth solid proof where it's clearly stated that the prophet made a mistake..
May Allah bestow Tawfeek and Hidayah unto James and also open his heart to embrace Islam soonest
Masha Allah... brothers r doing really great hard work
Fun fact: Algebra was developed in order to deal with inheritance. This refutes James objection.
Quran and other such books are fake
@@abdulansari1499 Stop making claims without substantiating them plz. Otherwise I'm just giving to ignore you.
@@zohebalikhan7404 your original claim is wrong
@@randallfe my original claim had a spelling error which I've now corrected thanks to you. I have read somewhere (my memory is vague on this) that Algebra as an academic discipline was developed and used to work out inheritance shares within the Islamic context. The development of many abstract ideas have their origins in concrete problems.
@@zohebalikhan7404 algebra predates muhammad so you’re wrong
look at James - his hair, his face, the way he laughs to mock others..he is not in peace with himself, full of stress .he feels he is smart but in fact he is a fool..
He clearly has Asberger's. James is a fool
He looks normal,, why you do a comment like this?
He's not avoiding questions lol. You see to understand Islam, you have to go through all the way from A to Z. Explaining each detail. It takes a significant amount of time explaining what each topic means. Islam isn't a religion where you can cherry pick a verse or a hadith and say this and that simply. Rather you have to go in depth and that's what bro Hamza were doing. He was trying to tell James what it means and what happened in depth that takes time in which James answered with "Avoiding questions" like you guys City Of Charles Dirt and Adam Hunter. If you watch the video carefully and listen, you'll hear what Hamza said was he's trying to say has everything to do with the topic in his argument with James even though it sounds as if he's avoiding the question. First establish a claim, prove the claim with history prior to that and afterwards, prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) actions about it or what Allah said regarding the matter, taking every option to understand it as a whole and again, this takes time. I suggest instead of just watching EF Dawah, spend time learning about Islam from a reliable, unbiased source. Don't be like James who go to anti Islam websites and blindly claim Islam is this and that to make himself look smart when he's in denial. You can't come telling me and expect to listen Islam is all about war, rape, has errors when the source you're referring to isn't even reliable.
I think he already did give a slight in depth look on Sharia Law in one of the videos in this channel. It's about the cutting of hands and all that. If i'm not mistaken there was a young lad that came up to him with these questions about Sharia Law and Hamza explained it nicely. I wouldn't say in depth because they don't have all the time in the world but it was enlightening nonetheless. You understand bits of what Sharia Law is about and given that i'm a muslim myself and that i've studied bit of it, what he said was correct. Sharia Law isn't meant to harm people or bring terror. They're meant to control the society. Having strict laws to prevent immoral acts in public. Even when a person is caught stealing, you have to look at that person's financial status etc. Is he poor? Has he been eating well? If that is not the government's job to help the needy then who else can the homeless turn to? If he is caught stealing when he's poor then the cutting of hands aren't applicable. To even get the punishment done is almost impossible due to the strict requirements of it. Even during prophet Muhammad's time, these punishments are hardly done unless of course the people who commit fulfilled those requirements.
I could be here all day explaining what Sharia Law is and why it isn't as what people/ the media portrays it to be but then again i'm not a scholar that has an infinite knowledge of everything and i have other things to do.
Like i said, he didn't lol. Did you even watch the video until the end? He wants to get to that but James interrupts but saying "Avoiding the question" and changes the topic to something else. How can the man go to two separate topics at once?
James has been 👊🏼🤛🏾 out of park. Don’t come back please with the same old nonsense.
Alhamdulillah for the Br’s and the summary was a knock out itself. All praise to Allah.
May Allah bless all the team of EF Dawah ❤️❤️❤️
I love watching these videos
To clarify this to people ( not James’s), the inheritance is not 1, or 100%, there are a tremendous list involved it could be:
1. A cow or 1/2 a cow.
2. Four sheep.
3. One goat.
4. One house.
5. A farm.
6. A donkey.
7. 5 horses.
8. 1/2 kg of golds.
9. 1,12 kg silver.
3000 ponds.
Can you all see what is involved here.
Are these equal to 100%, or 1, it’s madness.
Last point is if a man own only 1/2 cows, is the 1/2 equal 100% or 1.
The QURAAN is a book of guidance not cyclopedia, it’s not a manual of instruction, that manual is given to the prophets to explains, so as u don’t find explanation of prayer or Hajj in QURAAN, same with the inheritance, as bro Hamazah said, than all deceased are 12.5 % in debts because the inheritance is short by 12.5%, thats is either a childish or madness, or self sickness. As all Atheist, James will not leave these subjects which he gone rounds and rounds again and again, instead he will bring them again, if he does then it shows the man is not normal.
Remember QURAAN is not cyclopedia, it’s guidance, if it was cyclopedia, it would had at least 30 manuals to explain, but it’s a guidance book.
I love from any one like James to make the 1/2 cows as one, or 100%, and we know cows inheritance value was only 50%, make it 100% my hero.
I don't understand your argument. Are you saying that if someone owns nothing but 1/2 of a cow, then 1/2 of a cow is only 50% if what they own?
yellowpeteLoL exactly, I gave this example on part 1, there were 2 brothers, owning one cow, one of brothers died left behind 2 daughters, a father, and a mother and a wife as James says all time, so my question is, these deceased family only inherited 1/2 cow, can half cow be 1, or 100% of a cow, it will not, this man is a child, he has no clue what he saying, I think he has a problem within him.
+ Amasmsam
If half a cow is all that someone inherited, that is 100% of their inheritance.
No one is saying half a cow is 100% of a cow or that it's a whole cow.
If all that was left as inheritance was half a cow and a headless chicken, those two things would be 100% of the inheritance.
You don't need to ask if a headless chicken is 100% of a chicken because that's completely irrelevant lol
RealTalk there is islamic inheretence calculator. Google it fill in the problem and there you are. Easy
RealTalk that’s very true for those who understand, but when u talk to a hypocrite like James, this language he understands, forgetting that Islam who gave humanity math, algebra, fraction, denomination and numerator, surely James ancestors were doing their daily works and not waiting for Muslims to discover the denomination for them, same with Muslims not waiting for James to hand over to them the inheritance deficit of 12.5 %, may be thats his problems lies, the head of chicken (12.5%) which all Muslims impatient waiting for James to make his payment, we know there is no problem in QURAAN, QURAAN gives the fractions of all members entitled for inheritance, it’s up to the family to see how many numerator their for the denominator, it’s as simple as that, it just requires something between the 2 ears, and require to be thinking out of the box, till this minute James can’t do that, his prejudices will not allow him to follow the logic, he insist on the chickens heads rather on the chickens. God bless all, alhamdulilah that gave me Noor of Islam.
That was a very good discussion. He was just quoting random things and not from the hadiths. Alhamdulillah
The doctor listened, waited patiently and then administered his lethal dose! MashaaAllah while his voice might not be as loud as others at the park, when he speaks his words have volume.
May allah guide our hyde park brothers through out their journey on defending islam..
what a powerful conclusion statements by bro hamza
Mashallah brother hamza thank you for the clean daawah and the great message you're doing may Allah reward you all 👍😁keep it up and Allah is always there for whom he wants and whom think well ☺
Salam sister
ontario streets alikumsalam 🙋
@@Mona-xw8nm where do u reside sis ? Do u like politics or philosophy or islamic eschatology ??
Sister mona seems like you have watched most of the videos coz I see your comments in every videos....☺️ Assalamualaikum
you call that clean dawah ,, Hamza constantly insulted that man James, kept calling him rainman.
anyone can claim that Mohamed صلى الله عليه و سلم wasn’t a prophet but they can never prove it or even give you a logical reason. But let them try our prophet honer and achievements is like the moon beautiful and unmatched, just like the moon if you try to spite on it your spite can never reach it No, the spite will all ways fall back on your face and disgrace you
Its not 2/3 + 1/3 + 1/8 its 2/3 : 1/3 : 1/8
Its just ratios man... What is this guy on? Who said it has to add up to 1?
This guy is disingenuous and he knows it.
Can you explain further? Bad at math here.
So Mr. Agnostic has brought us one of hundreds of possible cases where the total percentage of the inheritance shares is more or less than 100%.
(In his case the proportion of shares were 2/3 for the daughters plus 1/3 for the parents plus 1/8 for the wife winch is equal to 112.5%).
The Quran only needed few verses to give us the basis of dividing the inheritance and left the calculations for the Muslims to do. Ever since the days of followers of the prophet Mohammad PBUH, Muslims were using a mathematical method to calculate the share of each inheritor according to these verses (many Muslim countries around the world still use it btw).
When the total of inheritance shares is more or less than 100%, we muslims use the following method:
We add the fractions of each share. To do that we must have the same denominators:
the share of the daughters 2/3 becomes 16/24
the share of the parents 1/3 becomes 8/24
the share of the wife 1/8 becomes 3/24
the total becomes 27/24.
In reality the total of shares must add up to 1 and in our case, we will use 27/27.
To calculate each share we keep the same numerators from previous fractions before we put them above the denominator 27:
The share of the daughters becomes 16/27 of the inheritance.
The share of the parents becomes 8/27 of the inheritance.
The share of the wife becomes 3/27 of the inheritance.
The shares add up to 27/27 which is the total the inheritance.
Easy.
how to pray is not in the quran either; what's your point?
@Darth Xaim
A simple example. Lets use a 2 : 1 : 9 ratio
Person A gets 2 parts
Person B gets 1 parts
Person C gets 9 parts
There are 12 parts shared between them, so the denominator is 12.
Therefore;
Person A gets -> 2/12
Person B gets -> 1/12
Person C gets -> 9/12
If we want to get fractions involved its basically the same, but we have to find a common denominator* first.
Lets use 2/3 : 1/9 : 4/6
Person A gets 2/3 parts -> same as 12/18*
Person B gets 1/9 parts -> same as 2/18*
Person C gets 4/6 parts -> same as 12/18*
There are (12+2+12=) 26 parts shared between them, so the new denominator is 26.
Person A gets -> 12/26
Person B gets -> 2/26
Person C gets -> 12/26
(Psst: We can cross out the "/18" because it becomes redundant when you write it out as 12/18 : 2/18 : 12/18. Its exactly the same as writing 12 : 2 : 12).
You missed it. The issue is if it doesn't add up to 1, there would be an outstanding person to receive a share. Just like sharing half a pizza to 3 persons when a single whole pizza was available in the first place
This guy is the real definition of "Safeeh" full of maybes, probably and possibly. talking to him is a waste of time
ALHAMDULLILAH AMEEN brother Hamza TRUE GEM to this ummah may ALLAH SAW ALWAYS PROTECT him brother Hamza conveys the DAWAH so profoundly and proffesionally knowledgeable ALHAMDULLILAH AMEEN James is sucking things out his fingers his going back and forth to approach Hamza Subhan Allah ameen ALLAHU Akbar
Ist like and this James is quite annoying at times
I think the biggest sign to his insincerity is that he cant even look at Hamza in the eyes when speaking to him. He looks up in the air then talks 🤔 VAT IZZ DIS (russian voice)
VAT IZZ DIZZ 🤣 I JUST READ YOUR COMMENT AND DID THE ACCENT
I do that too, it's just a sign of thinking about stuff for some people
@@yellowpetelol6417 breaking eye contact is usually a disingenuous trait. Thats why they say when someone breaks eye contact when responding or cannot look at you in the eyes, their lying or lack confidence.
It's pathetic when he does that!! Pure arrogance!! In the last video brother hamza said it right that he's Mental!!
@@authentic.message thats without question. Anyone thats 'camp' is considered to have a mental disorder. This same person would not have spoken like this 30 years ago lol
Tip for brother Hamza; There wasn't an Arabic translation of the old and new testaments until the year 1000 A.D
This James looks like those nerdy hypocrite.
Truthful person looks in the eye.. he did not even for a minute.. nuff said :)
He says he ain't bias but then he finds those claims as he admits from bias sites.
The five daily prayers are the key to Jannatul Firdous ALLAHU AKBAR
moments like this should make people thank Almighty and Merciful for guidance,
you could be like this.
Thank you for exposing him .
Dr.saab ,Salam Alykum ,Great explanation of inheritance. and Brother cameraman good job coming before camera and destroying James. Simply awesome video for any sincere Man/woman to understand the Islam. Alhumdulillah!!!!!!!!!!
I like you Hamza for the sake of Allah .. may Allah bless you and reward you Al-Ferdous Al-A'ala.
ربي يجزاكم الجنه ووالديكم
i think this guy james is trying to co-relate two different things. liability is a constant and not a %age. it is independent of the leftover amount n hence, either it can be settled or not.
on the other hand, inheritance is a %age n hence, a variable as it is dependent on the amount in consideration.
both can not be compared. they are independent of one another.
i think the point james is missing is that the things are sequential. they are in order n can be confused if all taken at once.
Doesn't even look them in the eye the disrespect is unreal
he was scared
JazakAllah bro Hamza
Where can i get reliable resources in the web to read the quran, hadiths? Because i don't wanna misunderstand.
This guy is not an agnostic he is a kafir💯
Agnostic is a kaafir - if you make excuses for a agnostic you become a kaafir yourself...aka chain takfeer a 'aathir' (excuser).
An agnostic Muslim is a oxymoron.
+MR 007
I suspect he is Christian in disguise.
But i still have no solid proof, except that he quote many lies from Christian missionaries.
technically an aithest is a "mochrik". also we as humans have no right to judge someone's ability to become a muslim. Allah guides whom He wills.
Anyone who know the message and rejects it is a kaffir this is not rocket science
@@Seanus32 à person like this agnostic in the video is clear example of denial and rejection knowing well that he has no logical argument
So yes
As for your question I think anyone who knows Islam know this by now
Muhammad had the message from g o d through Angel Gabriel as a recitation the meaning of the name of the quran
James the time wasting troll.
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
we want to ask if you allow us to use your vedios and translate it to another language
the Turkish language please answer us
This exactly reminds me of verse 25 in Surah 6 which Allah says:
*And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."*
*(وَمِنۡهُم مَّن یَسۡتَمِعُ إِلَیۡكَۖ وَجَعَلۡنَا عَلَىٰ قُلُوبِهِمۡ أَكِنَّةً أَن یَفۡقَهُوهُ وَفِیۤ ءَاذَانِهِمۡ وَقۡرࣰاۚ وَإِن یَرَوۡا۟ كُلَّ ءَایَةࣲ لَّا یُؤۡمِنُوا۟ بِهَاۖ حَتَّىٰۤ إِذَا جَاۤءُوكَ یُجَـٰدِلُونَكَ یَقُولُ ٱلَّذِینَ كَفَرُوۤا۟ إِنۡ هَـٰذَاۤ إِلَّاۤ أَسَـٰطِیرُ ٱلۡأَوَّلِینَ)*
[Surah Al-An'am 25]
This is how you divide the estate. First, you have to take the 1/8 of the wife, then, divide what is left among the rest of the group. For example, the estate is 100 pounds. If you take 1/8, which is 12.50 out of it, you will have 87.50 pounds left. Then the 87.5 will be divided among the rest according to their ordained perscription, and the chart will look as follows;
relative Share Fraction Share Percentage
Wife 1/8 12.50%
Daughter 1 1/3 29.16%
Daughter 2 1/3 29.16%
Father 1/6 14.58%
Mother 1/6 14.58%
What rubbish you are 1 using two different fraction methods 2 it dictates an order which is not in the Quran. It explicitly says what each get if the estate not a balance, because simply the person getting 1/3 is in fact getting less. Absolute intellectual dishonesty
@@rayaldo100 With all do you respect, I didn't quite get what you are up to. The question was, if you divide the estate (100 pounds) to those 5 people in accordance with the Qur'an, you won't be able to balance the sheet.
However, according to the Qur'an, their shares will be as follows: Wife 1/8 + Two daughters 1/3 each + Two parents 1/6 each. It will come out as follows: Wife will get 12.5 pounds +two daughters 29.16 pounds each + Parents 14.58 pounds each. In total 99.99 pounds, which balances the book correctly.
@@nageyebelieday7158 sorry you might be able to fool some people but not me. I was an A star student in maths , and you simply cannot apply it the way you have. The wording is clear the fractions quoted are against the estate not against the state less one persons share. You apply 1/8 against the estate , the rest net of 1/8 from the estate, therefore apply the mathematical rule in 2 different ways, which for me is both incorrect and dishonest.if I say to 8 people you all get 1/7 of the estate would you say I means pro-rata to make it fit or would you say you made a mistake. I am convinced the Quran is man made, and this is one many examples to prove it.
@@rayaldo100 Dear Ray, the topic in discussion isn’t whether the Qur’an is divinely inspired or manmade; hence, you have every right to believe whatever you want to believe. It’s simply whether the given estate of 100 pounds can be rightly distributed to those given people, according to the Qur’anic directives.
First of all, the Qur’an gives variable dues to the inheritors. This means, the inheritors will get different amounts in different situation, and in some situation won’t get anything at all. Nonetheless, the wife, the children and the biological parents will always get their shares, though these shares except the wife’s, will vary from time to time.
For example, in the case of no male children, but only one or two daughters, the share of the daughter will increase significantly. In the case of no children the parent’s share will increase too, but the share of the wife, which is 1/8 will always stay the same, and also she takes precedence from the two other groups followed by the children and then the parents.
In this case, as usual, the wife will come first, and she will take her 1/8 share, followed by the two daughters with 1/3 each, followed by the two parents with 1/6 each.
Wife 1/8 12.50
Daughter 1 1/3 29.16
Daughter 2 1/3 29.16
Father 1/6 14.58
Mother 1/6 14.58
Total = 99.99
I don't agree on Hamza's way on managing this debate, which i rarely do, the guy from the beginning had a claim that the Quran had an error about inheritance which is a known false one... Simply from the beginning let him present it then if Hamza isn't an expert in inheritance simply find someone or tell him the truth that inheritance is a branch of study for sholars by it's own and he has to talk to an expert to discuss this matter. Full Stop
good job james
Yes.sent the link brother
*CLARIFICATION OF AYAT* *4:12**:*
In "their share is a fourth, (4:12)" The husband takes a half of his deceased wife's property if she leaves no child, the rest going to residuaries; if she leaves a child, the husband gets only a fourth. Following the rule that the female share is generally half the male share, the widow gets a fourth of her deceased husband's property, if he leaves no children, and an eighth if he leaves children. If there are more widows than one, their collective share is a fourth or an eighth as the case may be.
In "has left neither ascendants nor descendants, (4:12)" The word in Arabic is KALALAH, which is so construed usually. But it was nowhere defined authoritatively in the lifetime of the Messenger. This was one of the three terms about which Umar (The Prophet's second deciple) wished that the Messenger had defined them in his lifetime, the other two being KHILAFAH, and RIBA (usury). On the accepted definition, we are concerned with the inheritance of a person who has left no descendant or ascendant (however distant), but only collaterals, with or without a widow or widower. If there is a widow or widower surviving, she or he takes the share as already defined, before the collaterals come in.
In "but has left a brother or a sister, (4:12)" A "brother or sister" is here interpreted to mean a uterine brother or sister, i.e., a brother or sister by the same mother but not by the same father, as the case of full brothers and sisters or brothers and sisters by the same father but different mothers is understood to be dealt with later, in the last verse of this Ayah (verse). The uterine brother or sister, if only one survives, takes a sixth, if more than one survives, they take a third collectively, and divide among themselves; this on the supposition that there are no descendants or ascendants, however remote. There may, however, be a widow or widower surviving: she or he takes her or his share, as already specified.
The shares of collaterals generally are calculated on a complicated system which cannot be described in a brief note. For these, and the rules about residuaries (ASABA) references should be made to special legal treatises.
In "after payment of legacies and debts; so that no loss is caused (to anyone). (4:12)" Debts (in which funeral expenses take first rank) and legacies are the first charge on the estate of a deceased person, before distribution takes place. But equity and fair dealing should be observed in all matters, so that no one's interests are prejudiced. Thus funeral expenses should be reasonable; debts must be genuine and not reckless debts; and teh shares must be calculated with fairness.
There are literal state inheritance laws exist in some Muslim countries which are based on these verses. No lawmakers ever made insane claims like him that Quran says to give away more than 100% of the estate.
This dude is an intellectual bankrupt.
Islam is taken through Quran and sunnah. Anything that is not detailed in Quran is explained inshallah in the sunnah. Ijtima is allowed in islam. Scholars are allowed to make fatwas and make laws regarding grey or undetailed areas. So... Its not actually a problem.
thank you
I like before I start watchin
Please correct me if I am wrong what I understood from James, he is Shocking man, he want QURAAN to be responsible for the debts of deceased because he left debt instead of inheritance, even hamza replied but he still want to hold on with his dogmatic understanding, this is a childish discussion from a man who is intellectually appeared intelligence, I only feel sorry for him and in the same time pray for him to come to his sense until unless he is brain washed and have an agenda.
Now he goes back to his dark room to prepare for a next lies, they plan, and God plans, and God best planner who taken all these sub in to account.
So if QURAAN was wrong, why that correction to correct Quran not executed, but it has been endorsed. Either he is a hypocrite, or Naif, or both, but surely not genuine?
Blame QURAAN if some one died with more debt than inheritance, according to James QURAAN is wrong and responsible, there were far greater knowledgeable and intellectually more qualified than this child, they challenged the QURAAN and the prophet as James doing, lot of them in the end submitted to almighty God, it’s good if games read about them, surely he will be helped by the brothers in speaker corner.
HAMZA INTELLECTUALLY SMASHED THIS GUY
pleeeeze
I wished to ask a question Hamza Ive enjoyed your videos during this Ramadan and would like to help if possible. Let me know how to contact you guys I am a female doctor in Birmingham. Just one question you guys are doing great work in far flung parts of the world but then who guides the new reverts I would like to know how they grow spiritually.
What do you want from hamza, mutah marriage?
Actually the share of the two daughters is not fixed but 2/3 is a limit or a maximum because their share is variable and function of how many they are and how many are with them. The share of the mother is also variable depending on whether there are children or not - it varies between third without children or sixth with children. The father's share is fixed here 1/6. One woman or 4 women (wives) share is also fixed 1/8 in this case because he has children. Whatever remains is divided among the children within the limit of two thirds. If the remaining is more than 2/3 which it is not in this case - the girls take only 2/3 and the remainder goes to the father as the clan share.
as hamza said if it had an error and james claim was it was changed to suit why did the writers
keep it in?james ur mad
The Truth ur breath stinks stop talking 😷
"But, but what if a man has a hamaphradite child with a 3 legged cat then the math does not work!!" Well done James...
Hi James..i hope u watch this debate again..
سلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته انا لا اعرف الانجليزية اريد الترجمة باللغة العربية جزاكم الله خيرا
James Mr " One trip pony " 😂😂😂
His religious scriptures is Google.😂😂😂 By all accounts Brother Adnan sorted him out last time. Even after all this ..if Allah wishes to convert him. It is easy for him. Subhana Allah. Brilliant wrap up at the end by Brother Hamza ❤️🏆
I salute the patience of brother Hamza and brother Imran with this insufferable child
He is a gay bloke
Very biased opinion. He debates well
Bismillah, let's play with simple math. We will deal with representing one thing as more than 100% and divide it fairly.
1 (one) bread will be distributed as:
1/3 part for A
2/3 part for B
1/8 part for C
then 1 bread is equal to 27/24, or 112.5%
that means 100% of that bread becomes 24/27 of it's size.
to distribute it, you slice the bread to 27 pcs.
A gets 1/3 of 24/27 = 8 pcs
B gets 2/3 of 24/27 = 16 pcs
C gets 1/8 of 24/27 = 3 pcs
no bread's left.
simple math.
assalam alaikum...is this is hyde park? what day and time?
I really like your videos but sometimes you guys end up just talking over each other and don't listen and then you cant give an answer at it's full potency.
If you tell three people that each person has 50 % of a pizza that means they all have equal shares. That means you give them a 3rd each. I don't see what is complicated in that.
There are many things that are not addressed directly in the Quran and that's why we have ijtihad. Which means making a logical decision based on the legislation available. So for example smoking is not addressed in the Quran, but we use the rule that we can't harm ourselves to know that smoking is haram.
The Quran set the foundation for inheritance for the common situations. To list every single possible situation and divide it would need a whole book on its own. There will most likely always be a situation that isn't explicitly mentioned. But the foundation is there and logical reasoning and using the shares given you would just give everyone the equivalent of their share within the 100%. Imagine if the Quran tried to address every single variable of family structure and account for it? It's ridiculous. I'm sure there is more than just the one he mentioned. But the foundation is there and the ability to divide based on that foundation is extremely simple.
Great explaination! Jazaki'laahu khayran. This is the comment I was looking for.
I feel the same way.
Why didn’t hamzah just let him show his evidence straight away
Assalamu'alaikum brother hamza.
about inheritance knowledge ('ilm waris) is the hardest part of fiqih, even imam of the madzhabs later on (khalaf/contemporary 'ulama of the 4 madzhab) acknowledge that this is the most hardest fiqh parts. that's why majority fiqh turats (fiqh books / kitabs) it always put on the end of the book.
so if u got more question of this, dont answer it directly, but u need to learn any of inheritance condition, husband death, wife death, how many children, how many parents from husband and wife, how many wives he had, how many siblings, how many secondary family (uncle, aunt, etc)
Do we have the link for the inheritance matter he mentioned in the end of the video
Wow James has the dawah teamed rattled
Erm no he hasn't 😂
It's my belief that he has
@@adam_19855 good luck with your belief then 😆
@@shafqatishan437 did you think hamza adequately answered James's question?
I'm confused i thought James was a man with rationality, so many emotional thinking out of him.
Hamzah said I get that.. 👍👍👍
Prince said "I Know how to play Purple Rain but I don't own it" he left no will when he died his music my point is Islam has standards which in the end protects inheritance for family and friends.
James is not being beaten here, despite what people think.
@@lionroar26 How is he " making things up " he read from the Quran, quoted many peer reviews written by Muslims.
@@justanumber5674 written by unkown imam lol
*Part 2 WHO AUTHORED THE QUR´AN???😂 of all the possible sources of the Quran, it is only the last alternative - God/ALLAH - who even claims in the Quran itself to be the author of the scripture, for the Quran is truly the spoken word of God.*
As-salamu alaikum Brothers & Sisters! In examining (Video part 1&2) the possible source of the Quran we have covered the following points: *1. Muhammad’s being unlettered 2. Muhammad’s integrity 3. The Style of the Quran 4. Discrepancies between the Quran and the Bible 5. Quranic teachings about Satan and about morality, and 6. The Quran’s factual contents and scientific information.* God: In the absence of any more acceptable alternative as source and author of the Quran, one is more or less forced by reason to accept the Quran for what it claims to be - revelation from God through His Prophet Muhammad. This position seems reasonable not just because it is the only option that cannot be objectively eliminated, but because it is only reasonable to expect that a book with such qualities and contents would come from man’s Creator and Guide. Of all the possible sources of the Quran, it is only the last alternative - God - who even claims in the Quran itself to be the author of the scripture, for the Quran is truly the spoken word of God. The position, therefore, which holds that God is the author and source of the Quran still stands, and the challenge (or falsification test, Q.4:82) remains open to anyone to disprove the Quran’s claim to being revelation from God. Having undertaken this task ourselves, the Muslim’s contention that the Quran is the Word of God appears not just a product of blind faith but, in fact, a product of very sound and reasoned judgment in light of all the available evidence. Indeed, after having assessed the evidence, it would be blind faith to contend otherwise! Note that the evidence for the Divine Authorship of the Quran is also evidence for the existence of the Divine. God must exist, unless a more reasonably acceptable author of the Quran can be found! Salam!
Lance Gin
All four Gospels record Jesus as saying, *_"Blessed are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God._* The word *son* cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, God apparently addresses many of his chosen servants as *son* and *sons.* The Hebrews believed God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore, it is obvious the expression *son of God* merely meant *Servant of God;* one who, because of faithful service, was close and dear to God as a son is to his father. Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background, later misused this term. In their heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or someone born of a physical union between male and female gods. This can be seen in *Acts 14: 11-13,* where we read that when Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of Turkey, pagans claimed they were gods incarnate. They called Barnabas the Roman god Zeus, and Paul the Roman god Hermes. Furthermore, the New Testament Greek word translated as *son* are *pias* and *paida* which mean *servant,* or *son in the sense of servant.* These are translated to *son* in reference to Jesus and *servant* in reference to all others in some translations of the Bible. So, consistent with other verses, Jesus was merely saying that he is God’s servant. Even though the Bible has been changed, yet there exists clear and explicit verses that show that Jesus is not God. *90 VERSES SAYS: JESUS IS NOT GOD!!!! ;-)* Salam!
Lance Gin
*Did Jesus’ flesh dwell in safety after his death?* Unless Jesus’ body never underwent *decay* during his lifetime he could not be God, but if it did not undergo *decay* then he was not truly human. *Bible says that God is not man* God is not a man
*(Numbers **23:19**)* For I am God, and not man *(Hosea 11:9)* Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible a man who has told you the truth’ *(John **8:40**)* Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22) ‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31) ‘the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5) *The Bible says that God is not a son of man* God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23:19) The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’ ‘so will the son of man be’ (Matthew 12:40) ‘For the son of man is going to come’ (Matthew 16:27) ‘until they see the son of man coming in His kingdom.’ (Matthew 28) ‘But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority’ (Mark 2:10) ‘because he is the son of man’ (John 5:27) In the Hebrew scriptures, the ‘son of man’ is also used many times speaking of people (Job 25:6; Psalm 80:17; 144:3; Ezekiel 2:1; 2:3; 2:6-8; 3:1-3). Since God would not contradict Himself by first saying He is not the son of a man, then becoming a human being who was called ‘the son of man’, he would not have done so. Remember God is not the author of confusion. Also, human beings, including Jesus, are called ‘son of man’ specifically to distinguish them from God, who is not a ‘son of man’ according to the Bible. Salam!
you can see that he is very insencere...many times he is looking into the sky which in psychology it's a gesture of lying and insencerity....he can't look into the eyes because deep inside he feels ashamed...
ps: thank you james for bringing this up, you are a blessing even though you wanted to harm us....i learned a lot because of you and i'm sure many muslims learned a lot about inheritence too....also thanks to all the comments that explained how it works, may Allah s.w.t. reward you for your effort
@Glenys Wiseman, you are commenting on many muslim-made films and many times you insult muslims and islam....what kinds of benefits do you expect by being harsh and insulting? you are not even constructive, just giving christianity a bad name because of your inferiority-comlex....
how many muslims have ever watched sth made by socofilms or other christian missionaries? and not to talk about how many comments muslims leave on those films....i never watched sth made by missionaries, because i don't want to give them more views.....but you christians don't mind increasing "our"(muslim) films popularity and by that increasing the reach of muslim-production and dawah...
@Glenys Wiseman, it seems like you are confused...try to write so that people might at least understand you....calm down and breath and don't be angry....
you see, your strange accusations are without substance...can you please give the readers some examples of what you are talking about....also, as far as i remember, i have seen some comments from you, arguing from a christian position...maybe you rounced christianity aftet watching so much dawah on youtube...
and the thing with the islamic hygiene...i don't know why it's funny for you that muslims are required to get rid of the hairs from the armpit....what we have been practicing for over 1400 years has become a standard hygienic measure in the so called developed countries in the last 20 years....maybe it's also funny for you that muslims are cleaning their behind with water instead of paper, how about you put your hands into a pile of cow dung and only use paper to clean them, then you will know how clean your backside is....
stubbornes and arrogance will never bring you to the truth, humble yourself and ask your Creator to show you the way
Another great video. All praise to Allah
may Allah guide James
Someone correct him pls .it's not "Saani " It's Sunni. .annoying
Orthodox "Sunny" Islam, lol.
That's just Eurocentric arrogance. They get down your throat if you mispronounce an English or French word/name but are too up themselves to pronounce Arabic and Urdu words/names correctly so I deliberately mispronounce their gay pompous English & French names like River Thaymes and grand pricks
James is the one who is illogical
MaSha Allah
hamza logic: once someone response you’ve been refuted doesn’t matter if the response doesn’t march what was asked
Actually this is one of the greatest proofs that the Quran is preserved :) ...this guy is educated for his own demise because he was insincre - he memorized the names and the references not to study and understand but to argue and falsify
James thinks if He does not understands something it automatically means it must be wrong. No James it is you who is wrong and your understanding is wrong. Quran is perfect and no errors.
Where is the link mentioned at the end of the video to explain the inheritance?
Mashallah, who was the Muslim guy who jumped in towards the end?