10 Times George Cooper Sr Was Nothing Like Sheldon Described on The Big Bang Theory
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- This isn't the George Cooper we envisioned. Welcome to MsMojo, and today we’re counting down our picks for the times George Sr. defied everything we thought we knew about him based on Sheldon’s anecdotes in “The Big Bang Theory.” Our countdown includes daddy-daughter dates, looking out for Georgie, Sheldon shoes appreciation, and more! What surprised YOU the most about George Sr. in “Young Sheldon” after everything Sheldon told us about him in “The Big Bang Theory?” Let us know in the comments!
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What surprised YOU the most about George Sr. in “Young Sheldon” after everything Sheldon told us about him in “The Big Bang Theory?” Let us know below, and be sure to also check out our video of the Top 10 Times Missy Was the Best Character on Young Sheldon - czcams.com/video/NOP4TYR7K9U/video.html
He was actually there for him and he was a much better parent than Mary
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In short, It took Sheldon being a father to understand his own father
If Sheldon sees this man as a bad father, imagine how Sheldon's kids would view him. He would have to pardon his dad to hope his children would like him or pardon him for the dad he is/was one day
In the show Young Sheldon, Sheldon lacks emotional quotient maybe this is the reason he misunderstands his father, It was shown in an episode where he watches Beverly Hills to tell Missy what happened (cause she's grounded) but he never figures out what's going on with the scene until Missy gives her a cue about the background music.
you know,having conversations whit my father he allways brings a respond that goes whit that "you will understand me when you become a father yourselft"
Hey, who left this bowl of onions here? 🧅
To a lot of us...
Since the Sheldon voice over is a Sheldon who’s been a husband and father for years he’s probably finally understood everything he missed when he was incapable of understanding anything beyond the exact actions and words he observed
I like to believe that
Absolutely Sheldon's been so to overly exaggerate situations such as his rivalry betrayl of tam who did literally nothing. I think Sheldon's is just now telling the true story of how he grew up
That's the best explanation we have.
That's actually a really brilliant plan...
The writers probably intentionally wanted his dad to be described as those awful things...but Sheldon growing as a person... building his feelings, his humanity...
Using his perfect memory...he can finally understand his father perfectly
Yes, everyone always say that George broke TBBT canon but remember all Sheldon talk about him is from his perspective and Sheldon is... A very difficult person
The scene that broke my heart on George's behalf was during the Season 4 finale, when Mary claimed that he spends his entire life doing whatever he wants, only for him to point out that he never wanted to get stuck coaching football or getting repeatedly berated by his entire family, and that she never bothered to ask him.
I see your comments everywhere. You must really care about this because on this one video I have already seen 3 different comments by you, and there are other comments in between yours so you have already seen this one video multiple times. Lol.
@@nicolehegarty4749so?
He doesn’t really ask her though either. He comes home and drinks, or goes to the bar.
He steps allot as a father & a husband.
@@tracim3080I think George was trying to make a point. "Like if you don't make an effort, I can't"
Sheldon’s dad never put Sheldon on such a high pedestal and that annoyed Sheldon . George was there for all his children while Mary was 98%of the time focused on Sheldon . When watching young Sheldon I think the George was the better parent compared to Mary.
Much better
Oh he definitely was
Both Coopers ignored Missy and acted (mildy) rude towards Georgie tho.
Sometimes mary did want to make Missy feel not alone or something like that.
What we learn in Young Sheldon is that Sheldon is not a reliable narrator. Neither is he an astute observer of human behaviour and emotions.
I agree. George wanted sheldon to have the best chance when it comes to education opportunities. His other children, Missy and Georgie, were great characters. Georgie is smart when it comes to entrepreneurship and Missy is smart when it comes to socializing and interactING with people.
This show definitely shows how losing your father young can warp perceptions, had George lived a few more years i bet he and Sheldon would've made peace
I just consider the show fan fiction due to how inaccurate it is to TBBT. I hope these "good times" happened before the "Bad times" and scumbag George will be shown this season. Or he could be "whitewashing" it.
@@robmartin5518 I personally feel the show is superior to the big bang theory
@robmartin5518 well not entirely. Sheldon in the big vang theory is a shitty person who never really understood social interactions. There was literally nothing good about Sheldon as a human being. The show is waaaaay superior and paints a realistic showing of his family
@@haydencohn2746Yeah I don’t understand what people are talking about when they call it inaccurate
“He wasn’t the greatest dad in the world, but then again we weren’t the worlds greatest kids” -Sheldon cooper 😭
Tbh... That is one of my favourite scenes in the entire series
Thing is; Sheldon does demonstrate in TBBT that things aren’t as he remembers them. The key one is when he’s trying to convince Georgie to come to his wedding and Georgie reveals how he was the one who took care of everything when Sheldon was in Germany because Mary was a mess after George Sr died and Sheldon is surprised because he thought Mary always took care of everything.
To his defense, Sheldon wasn’t around during this period, he could only relate to his mother testimony. It’s not truly something that he didn’t remember correctly.
@@teencritik5512 but that's the problem, Sheldon can't understand beyond the words he hears and actions he sees, so everytime someone told him a lie to protect him, unlike any other person who would understand everything when they grew up, Sheldon wouldn't and would believe that lie until someone said otherwise, so he can't see the sacrifices his father made for his family.
He starts seeing his father in a different light after he becomes a father himself.
You forgot the part when he knocked the crap out of Veronica’s step dad (Clint).
1) He defended his son Georgie from being manhandled by a grown man.
2) He protected his house by keeping an “intruder” out.
3) He asked and respected Veronica’s decision to stay, like a gent.
All the while keeping a calm demeanor.
True man of the house.
Mad respect.
Knocked The Crap Out Of? All He Did Was Punch Him
@@Icescream7He literally said “there’s a bum sleeping on our front porch”, meaning he knocked the guy out.
@@shylavender YES But There Was One Punch Heard
Sure. Why not?
@@Icescream7And? OP's comment still holds true.
I think because Mary was so focused on Sheldon, he mostly felt he needed to step up for Missy and Gerogie
I wish they would've added the episode where Sheldon picked his dad over his mom when he found out that Caltech sent them a letter. I love how George confronted Mary that he's also Sheldon's parent and Mary shouldnt be making all the decisions by herself.
Sheldon knew that his dad had his back when it comes to getting opportunities to improve his education but his mom was too anxious.
Right. George wanted the best for all the kids and encouraged optimism and curiosity. Mary however only catered to sheldon and often limiting his abilities but wouldmalways call him "special"
The best part was when Sheldon corrected Mary and said he'd rather have Dad
Even if he disagreed she can’t make those decisions without consulting her husband 😊
Thats was a really great moment he didn't even say he was trying to undermine her just that he wanted to be involved. It's very possible he'd agree with Mary but she never gave him the chance.
@@l.tc.5032 agreed.
It still bugs me that George's actor played Leonard's bully on the Big Bang Theory,
but the Young Sheldon episode where he goes to dinner with "Melissa" (Missy) will always hold a place in my heart ❤
Agreed, it's a little odd, considering that the two characters are polar opposites. However, they were portrayed very well, showing that he has excellent range.
I can agree with you on who played George but my interpretation is that the best way for Sheldon to describe his dad was to use Leonard's bully as a base because the actress who plays the music teacher is also in BBT. So I feel Sheldon uses some people as reference to tell his story
I made this same post in the Big Bang theory Reddit and everyone said well he an actor that’s what they do but it’s still weird to me
@zacharycasey5493 only problem with that is we see a video of George and it's the same actor.
I always loved that scene where George and Missy went to Red Lobster! When she revealed that "Melissa" was her given name I was thrilled that I would share the same name as Sheldon's twin sister! The differences between Missy and I are that everyone calls me "Melissa" and not "Missy." I only have one older sister. I have no twin siblings.
I believe the shock Sheldon went through seeing his father with another woman and then dying so soon after he likely suppressed the memories to avoid the pain
Which is rough that we’re probably going to see this last season of young Sheldon 😭
Wait i still in season 6 when they he die
@@keciosilvavarela9839It hasn't happened in the show yet.
It has by now, season 7 episode 4. 🙂
@@lonerose99 and it turns out Sheldon misunderstood what he saw 😭
George wasn't perfect, and didn't have all the answers but he did try to do right by all three of his kids. Since Sheldon is narrating the prequel from the future, and has been confirmed to have children himself, it's likely that he finally understands more of George's well meaning nature. Our parents' behaviour usually makes sense to us once we start raising our own children.
It makes sense why TBBT version of Sheldon would hold George in such high disdain. Once George's affair came to light, it likely overshadowed all of George's positive qualities. Sheldon adores Mary, despite her overbearing nature, as well as Connie, who makes no secret that she doesn't think that George is good enough for her beloved daughter.
Yeah we have to understand that Sheldon is an unreliable narrator. He may have an eidetic memory. But that doesn't mean he is shielded from his own biases.
And it wasn’t even an affair. It was a temptation that he fought and finally overcame, similar to Mary and the young pastor (though I found him creepy - probably that dreadful moustache).
What they both reveal is a marriage under severe stress and normal folk trying to deal with it.
@@gilliankewThere will be an affair, Sheldon said that he caught his father on top of another woman. We haven’t gotten there yet.
@@xodiaaacwhat if it turns out to be Mary wearing a blonde wig to spice up the bedroom or Georgie with Mandy having fun in the parents room
@@gilliankewit most definitely WAS an affair. Do you not remember when Sheldon said he caught him??
It’s kinda sad, adult Sheldon almost villainized his father, but George was actually put the time in and did his best.
Maybe the show will explain having Sheldon think of his father in a bad way as a coping mechanism to get thru a grief he never got over.
That kinda makes sense
People really don’t understand that this is exactly how it goes when you’re a kid you think everybody’s got certain ways of doing it you don’t understand why people do what they do and then as an adult you have a different perspectives now you can if you choose, look back and realize you were wrong, most of your childhood and the people you thought were evil really just people who have different shit going on and you didn’t understand
That makes sense. My grandpa died and I hear some of my Mom’s siblings and grandma started to resent him despite his best effort. It wasn’t until they went to counseling that they realized their resentment was a manifestation of their grief rather than anything he actually did.
I kind of think that Sheldon had a bad perception about anything other that science in TBBT timeline. Sheldon might have depended on Mary and Meemaw for social cues and they often degraded George Sr. So his general perception about his father was bad. But by end of TBBT he becomes more open-minded and starts developing social perception of his own. When he's narrating Young Sheldon he's already a father and a husband and develops a view-point about his father which is much kinder and understanding.
George did cheat so it would become harder to see him in a positive light
A hidden plot in young Sheldon was realising that George was the better parent overall when TBBT made him out to be awful
To be fair, the Big Bang Theory's later seasons, especially his interactions with Georgie, do heavily imply that Sheldon either willfully or subconsciously distorted his own memories of his family.
That's not even considering the stuff they intentionally kept from him so as to not burden him emotionally.
Yeah, the obvious answer is that TBBT's writers didn't think that far ahead and only started fleshing stuff out after the fact, even if it contradicted previous episodes, with Young Sheldon taking it even further ,but the idea of Sheldon's view on his family being skewed IS there at least. So its not that far fetched.
I personally like to think though that the Sheldon who's narrating the story is him after becoming a father and finally gaining the emotional maturity needed to understand what he previously couldn't
I think the “affair” really clouded Sheldon’s judgement about his father.
I feel that Sheldons mom colored a lot of his opinions after George died. I wish they would do a one off BBT episode in an alternate timeline with George still alive where Sheldon is smart but also a bit more social and compassionate.
George Sr. was never an awful parent. In The Big Bang Theory, Sheldon portrays his dad as this awful parent who cheated on his wife, but as you watch Young Sheldon, not only does it disprove him being an awful parent, but he is actually a great, and understanding one. Hell, he's a better parent than Mary. And you can really see why he cheats on Mary. I'm surprised he stuck with her so long.
Cheatings always wrong dawg
@@SM-be5dh alr bet stay with an extremist Christian for 17 years and I'll see if you change your mind
@@SM-be5dh That didn't age well
He didn't cheat. It was Mary with a blonde wig
@@ayanchoudhury6697 as of commenting this, this wasn’t the case
I like the scene where the abusive boyfriend of Georgie's girlfriend's mom comes to pick the girl up. The boyfriend shows his true colors, and George punches him out.
Yes! Me too! I love that moment!
@@nicolehegarty4749"You really want to mess with me?""Sure,why not?" George is a good dad
I dont remember that happening
@@user-dh4rq7bo3b
Hi Sheldon!!
This aged well after today's episode, now we know that George. Sr did NOTHING wrong and in fact the only thing that we had against him- was a mere misunderstanding. This guy didn't get crap for so much he did, respect!
that scene with Missy in the tornado actually brought a tear to my eye (I'm always #TeamMissy)
I've really loved what they did with his character in this show. They could have played the whole thing as a big joke, like heard not seen like Ms. Wolowitz, or worse yet make him an actual villian, but he's the true stand-out character in my opinion.
The scene I liked was the BBT episode when Sheldon needed inspiration and found his VHS tape had been over-recorded with a half-time pep talk by George to the HS football team. And how those words were exactly right in that moment. And for the viewers who’ve lost our dads, what we wouldn’t give to stumble on a pep talk like this.
I could see the show being a way for Sheldon to realize that his dad wasn't as bad as he described on TBBT. After my dad had an online affair with a woman 10 years younger than him, all I was was angry at him. All I could see was his flaws. But I came to realize that my dad make a stupid, stupid mistake, but he wasn't a bad father at all. He would make sure that I got to all of my doctors appointments, to school on time, to buy me pads when I needed them (he never complained about it), and he would be sure to give me money for food or would buy me something to eat so that I wouldn't go hungry. He also would tuck me in at night, especially if I had a nightmare. He even quit his job so that me and my sibling were taken care of while mom was at work
Did you see the newest reveal about the so called “affair”?
@@vinnyl264 yes, i've seen it recently. I wonder if Sheldon will ever know that the woman he saw was actually his mom? Idk if at the end of the final season they'll have adult Sheldon have realizations about certain things or whatnot
@@musiclover666100 I doubt he’ll find out
Sheldon described HIS relationship with George. That's all we knew. In what world would Sheldon Cooper ever even notice George's relationship with anyone else?
I like to think of Young Sheldon as Old Sheldon reflecting on his life after earning a noble prize with his family side being his family explaining their situations.
It actually makes me kind of sad that it seems like Sheldon saw his father like a piece of shit while he is a great father.
Irony being that the piece of shit was Sheldon himself. Practically made everyone in Sheldon’s life and family more interesting than Sheldon himself.
Being a teenager as wellas losing your father young does that.
Chuck Lorre is an idiot.
I don't think Sheldon truly saw him as a piece of shit, quite the opposite really. I think he knew the type of father he had - a loving caring one. And I think that losing his dad at such a young age made him realize that he lost a huge support system, which he needed to cope with. I think his coping mechanism was to distort his memories of his dad and paint him as a villain in order to convince himself that he truly didn't lose all that much; when in reality he lost a whole lot and he knew it. Throughout TBBT, even though Sheldon (and his family in their appearances) take jabs at George, when it matters most they all acknowledge the man he truly was. I really think that the vilifying of George was his own way of coping that he lost a super great dad! And if TBBT didn't make that clear, Jim Parsons' narration over YS does make it clear that Sheldon knew deep down that his dad was a great one!
@@Dawesomestperson Could be. Thanks man, I'll sleep a bit happier today knowing that.
I like to think Sheldon intentionally misremembers what his dad was like earlier in the series because of he lacked the emotional intelligence he would later developed. Perhaps it was easier to remember his dad as a angry, drunk idiot so that the grief wouldn’t be so hard.
Obviously the real reason is because when they made young Sheldon they wanted to make George SR likeable by audiences. And thus there are discrepancies between how he is described in TBBT and portrayed in Young Sheldon. It’s not necessarily exclusive to him but I notice it more with George.
Remember that everything about George was Sheldon's memory of him, greatly influenced by his overbearing mother.
Mary and Sheldon created a narrative in their heads absolving themselves of any accountability. Better to remember George as the bad guy than admit fault of your own.
I found Mary in TBBT to be utterly terrible as a mother and a person - judgemental, hypocritical, preachy.
Still, she was better than Leonard's mother. That woman was a straight-up psycho. The kind of scientist who would justify human testing.
I have been waiting for this! George was an amazing father! Considering Nary's world was Sheldon, George was a great dad to all of his kids equally.
What makes me soo sad is the fact Mary behaves as if she does everything for all of them but in reality she does what's best for Sheldon. She almost always neglects missy and Georgie and treats Sheldon as if he is her only child. That's why George is the better parent cus he never shows double standards and treat all his kids equally.
the problem with this it's whenever the writers decided to belittled George in TBBT they werent thinking in the prequel of young sheldon and how much backlash Sheldon is getting for being so smart but at the same time so soulless to notice how a great dad he had and made it worse with George passing not getting the respect he deserved
TBBT is in late seasons when Young Sheldon started. So it makes sense that the writers would bash George Sr. as a premise in TBBT but change it in Young Sheldon
I imagine that after George cheated (don’t blame him btw) Mary and Connie made absolutely certain that Sheldon would be poisoned against him. Given Sheldon’s nonexistent social intelligence as well as never being able to change his opinion, he was the perfect weapon.
What do you mean?
@@NewAdam-cc5wz Mary and Connie are some of the most self righteousness people on the show. All of Sheldon’s negative qualities are from them. Mary coddled Sheldon and made sure he was never anything less than “her little boy”. Someone she can control and blind obedience is a given. To make herself look like an Angel, Mary has to demonize George.
@@Historyandlegends789 So true.
Thats the only thing he is wrong for and shouldn't be excused
Meemaw is a cool character but when it comes to George she can be a b-word
Im rewatching TBBT and watching Young Sheldon for the first time and every time Sheldon brings up his dad its a bit frustrating because i can see how much he cared and tries really hard to be the best Father he knew how to be. He was far from perfect but the effort went unnoticed and ignored until years after his death. Fortunately my dad is still alive so im able to reflect and talk to my dad and recognize what he was doing
George Snr is my fav YS character. He is so much more then TBBT makes him out to be. Protective and caring above all
I feel like Mary kinda turned the kids against George by bad mouthing him and getting him mad in front of the them to make him seem like the bad guy. But in TBBT Sheldon always made George out to be this alcoholic abusive jerk but he seemed like a wholesome sitcom dad.
honestly i never really thought bad about Sheldon's dad watching TBBT because we see many cases where Sheldon views or voices situations WAY differently than how they are but that's just his perspective
I love George Sr.
I finally finished Young Sheldon. I will rewatch it several more times.
One more season....
@@vickibentley8963 I know😪
Where did you all watch it ? I can't find it in CZcams
@@user-ts8fq6xe9e HBO and Paramount.
I feel like if they knew about young Sheldon early on when creating TBBT, then they would have been kinder to his character
💯
Turns out a cart before the horse.
Such is the world of tv lol.
This was one of the sweetest stories between George and Missy.
Goes to show that George was the better parent.
George reminds me of my dad so much honestly makes me cry to watch this.
The biggest problem is Sheldon said he caught his dad cheating with a cheerleader ,which led to the 3 knock rule , easy fix is have Sheldon walk in on Dad and mom doing some role play where mom is dressed up .
Mary is not that relaxed. She's too uptight
In the show she Smoking with the young pastor and fantasizing about him ..... seems like fun with her Husband is on the table . @@Blackrosecreater
Exactly what happened, role-playing! Last night's end in episode 4 season 7.
George's moments in the show often make me cry because it is a constant reminder that he's trying time and time again to be a good father, a fair father and a good husband. Mary on the other hand had a very toxic personality. Her mother keeps saying how she ended up with him and how she could do better but it's the other way around. Truthfully, a great TV character
Mary in George's marriage is a very clear example why using protection is important. Marriage or not having kids with someone you barely know is usually a good way to screw your life up
Loved this recap
Thanks for the video
Honestly am really glad that the George Adult Sheldon described is completely different. I think the directors knew what they were doing with portrayals. He was often misunderstood even when he tried his best to be the best father and husband to them....
Watching TBBT, I hated Geroge Sr coz of the being a beer drinker. And watching Young Sheldon has made me realise that he isn't a bad person but has sacrificed the things that would make him feel whole and a man for his family. Now that's a bigger man!
Can we add that he passed up not just one, but two promotions to keep the family happy in Medford only to have Sheldon end up a student at the school he could have been coaching at....I love that George is humanized and I think he's a better father than the helicopter mom, Mary who only hovers over Sheldon and the other two kids are sideline distractions. Update: I hit send just as this was being covered. LoL
Young Sheldon truly gave us some heart warming tears and moments, and George was a great father to his kids and even though he slipped up in his marriage, he was a good husband to Mary.
I'm theorizing that Sheldon may have glossed over and misread all of George's best qualities. In the Big Bang Theory, he does meet friends that help him learn and grow, able to inform him of 'non-optional social conventions' and so on. I'm hoping by the end of Young Sheldon, there will be a voice over where Sheldon comes to the realization that George wasn't a bad father. I believe there are many hints going into this theory. Ultimately, I hope the affair was big misunderstanding and George went along with the misunderstanding because (maybe) he was protecting someone else in a more shameful truth. But I think that's asking for too much.
I would say this George Cooper Sr is a great father to Sheldon, Georgie and Missy. But I would say the best moment when he took Sheldon to the or sort of if you took him to NASA and that was a sort of my favorite part of the moment when Sheldon was disappointed he wanted to see rocket take off and when it was raining 🌧️ and his dad would ask him about Sheldon usually tells him about something and I'm like wow that was like a best moment 🙏, I would say young Sheldon is one of the best shows and one of my favorite prequel series of The Big bang theory still I still have love of the show The Big bang theory not everyone else really enjoys the show I can understand but Young Sheldon is best👏❤️💯
The differences in how George Sr is portrayed in TBBT compared to how he actually was on Young Sheldon is a prime example of how in Morden society a man is never good enough no matter how noble, dedicated or how hard he works for his family. George Sr is the kind of man society needs, with flaws but when he's needed he steps up
George Sr. Was actually a really good father which became apparent the more I watched young Sheldon I had a different view of him going because of how he was painted in big bang theory but he had very heat warming moments especially with Sheldon and Missy
Honestly, I think the difference between what Sheldon remembers about his dad and what we see in Young Sheldon is very relatable. It’s very hard for most kids to step back and judge their relationship with their parents fairly, especially when it’s as complicated as someone like Sheldon’s. I love how flawed their family dynamic is in the show, it helps you appreciate the good moments while demonstrating how imperfect we all are.
I thought it was sweet when Sheldon held his dad's hand without his mitten in the pilot episode
I feel the reason why Sheldon had that arbitrary view on his father is because of his death, going back into his old habits because he felt alone again. Probably why he looks up to Leonard and penny so much they remind him of his parents
I can see now why people find this show interesting. It’s not really about Sheldon, it’s about his family. They had to work hard to love someone like Sheldon; a genius but clearly neurodivergent child whose social ineptitude and heightened intellect and senses put a wall between him and the world. His father uses some really cool parenting strategies to bridge the gap between himself and his kids. He seems simple, but compassion and understanding are very deep. It’s touching but sad that Sheldon didn’t realize how much his dad did for him until later.
I ❤ George sr. He reminds me of my dad.
He’s patient enough to deal with someone with ASD.
I like how some prequels will take. What happened in the original series or canon and try to put the aspects into it to see how the character gets the personality his or her God in the cannon. I wish some people will learn how to do that when they're telling the origins of certain characters and how they are.
The entire cast is fantastic and I am really gonna miss this show.
From Sheldon's POV, his memories was exactly as he said. Only from his POV, not from audiences'
That's my little lady ❤❤❤❤❤❤ my heart melted
I think the version of George Sr. in TBBT and Young Sheldon will always be unparalleled because of two different POVs.
In TBBT we only get to hear Sheldon's POV of what his father was like, which is a drunk and a womanizer. In Young Sheldon, we get to see the whole picture of George Sr. being a father still figuring things out considering that he married Mary when they were young.
No parents are perfect but we know that Sheldon will always take things too far from his POV even though the other party wasn't really aware of what they did to Sheldon. (ex: Will Wheaton's rivalry, Tam in his list of enemies, Paige being smarter than him)
The best example is when Sheldon was mad at Georgie and doesn't want to invite him to his wedding. He later found out that Georgie was trying to protect him and their family when George Sr. died.
A lot of people talk about the inconsistencies in George Sr's character between TBBT and Young Sheldon; Sheldon's memories of his father's personality vs how his father is on Young Sheldon. To be fair, the creators didn't know for some time that they'd be doing a spin-off, so once they did that, they had to write what made sense. The thing is, that it actually works super well.
When we meet Georgie on TBBT, we learn that Sheldon's memories of him being a bully aren't consistent with everything that really happened. When Georgie talks about the aftermath of George Sr's death, we learn (on the original show) that he was the one who took care of things and protected Sheldon from the truth of how everyone was doing, and that he does love his brother. When we see Georgie on Young Sheldon and note how different he appears compared to Sheldon's memories, it works because in TBBT, we learn that Sheldon didn't see everything as it truly was. We only had his POV in TBBT, but we see through the eyes of the other characters on Young Sheldon.
Because of this, I think that the inconsistencies between Sheldon's dad on both shows make sense. We're getting Sheldon's perspective and memories when he talks about his father on TBBT. A perspective and memories that were likely (and understandably) forever scarred by the fact that Sheldon caught him cheating with another woman when he was just a teenager, not long before George's sudden death. That's traumatizing for anyone, let alone a kid with ASD (I have ASD myself). Unfortunately when Sheldon remembers George, he has a lot of trouble remembering the good times they had, since they never got to patch things up. The writing actually works out very well, and realistically, if you keep that in mind.
It does feel like a lot of us only come to understand what our parents did for us either in adulthood or when we become parents.
It was obvious in TBBT that Sheldon has various diagnoses to be on the spectrum. The actor played it well and the young Sheldon plays it well also. There are several people in my life who are at various points on the spectrum and I can testify that people on the spectrum remember their past according to how they interpret things. For Sheldon, anything unrelated to science was not worth remembering or registering as important. That is one of the reasons why the genius girl, Paige, had so much difficulty trying to get Sheldon to connect with her. She had just as much intelligence, but because she was a girl and was obviously not on the spectrum and therefore interested in many social things, the character of Sheldon wrote her off.
I think it very good to point out all the things which George did for Sheldon AND his family in order to give a more realistic picture of George and fathers in general.
When Mrs. Wolowitz passed away, Sheldon said that there had been no one to help him get through the death of his own father, but Howard had all of his friends. It is possible his badmouthing his Pop was his way of dealing with unassuaged grief.
George is an excellent example of a father. Children need both parents when they grow up. Mothers were the caretakers, the ones who were at home raising the children. Where the fathers were the providers and the rock, the ones who taught discipline and respect to the family. Nowadays, these roles have been accepted to be in either parent, but I do believe both are important. Like Yin and Yang, you're just incomplete without the other half. Mary and George were far from perfect, but they tried their best. And sometimes thats enough.
I'm really glad George got redeemed.
I kind of think that Sheldon had a bad perception about anything other that science in TBBT timeline. Sheldon might have depended on Mary and Meemaw for social cues and they often degraded George Sr. So his general perception about his father was bad. But by end of TBBT he becomes more open-minded and starts developing social perception of his own. When he's narrating Young Sheldon he's already a father and a husband and develops a view-point about his father which is much kinder and understanding.
its possible sheldon has taylored this kind of perception towards his dad to cope with the sadness and grief of losing his dad.
its either you accept the reality or you make yourself hate him to hide the pain
I love the show and I'm sad to see it end once a week I sit and watched The Bing bang and then Sheldon Thank you guys for all the laughs
Love the background music
Even though i don't watch this series, i definitely agree with these pics. Have a happy tuesday afternoon, Phoebe. Take care and God bless you, greetings from Colombia to you as well.
Sheldons father in the big bang and in young Sheldon are two different people even if they refer to the same person
IT beg a question if most of the stuffs was retcon based on the Choose action to played George Cooper?
I'm just waiting for when the inevitable happens and he dies, I will cry so much. He is a present father and puts his family happiness first above his dreams and desires.
When retelling the story, I don't think Sheldon realizes just how badly Mary treated George.
Even in TBBT Sheldon realizes in S12E10 (The VCR Illumination) that his memory of his late father might be tainted, if not wrong. When he appreciates the pep-talk of his father to his team, which also inspires him to discover super-assymetry and realizing, that his father - though not nearly as smart as him - gave him one last advice postmortem. That was a real moment for Sheldon (and the show in total).
its the problem with Prequels. IF they made the show as was described, people would hate him
The scene with the storm really had a heartwrenching close.
When Sheldon has valuable moments with his dad. It made me cry.
I think he wasn't invested as much into his family and the moments when he shined were shown on the show
"he may not have been the world's greatest dad but maybe we weren't world greatest kid"
George is one of the best fathers on TV. He ain’t perfect, but the man sure cared for his family
I'm starting to think that perhaps all the harsh anecdotes Sheldon and Mary told during TBBT was out of bitterness that he died so soon. It's easier for narcissists to cope with the loss of someone who supported you so much when you try to look back at their flaws that they didn't like. I'm sure Sheldon realized his flawed thinking when he himself became a Dad and realized his own failings.
It seems that way since he did acknowledge that his father never got the respect he deserved
I’ve always thought that Sheldon’s stories about his dad in TBBT was his way of coping with his dad’s death, and that the George we see in YS is the real George.
Even in the show we do see him treat his other kids better than he treats Sheldon also there are probably things that happened offscreen
I wouldn't say he treats them better then sheldon he treats him like he's not special in the home. Like he is special but he can't be the center of attention. Otherwise he'll grow up to... well be the person he became 😅.
Ironically no one in Big Bang considered how a photographic memory doesn’t mean squat in regards to ppl and social situations when said person is clueless with ppl and social situations.
What about helping Sheldon make that video to convince Mary that he was ready for college? That deserved an honorable mention, at least. It shows how much he support's Sheldon's intelligence and education, even though he can't always relate to it.
George Senior would have been just as healing for Penny and her feelings towards her Dad as Leonard was healed by Sheldon's mom in TBBT. I know its obviously due to the fact these are fictional sitcoms, written years apart ... blah blah blah... but there is continuity, and part of that continuity is the fact that TBBT Sheldon is an unreliable narrator even within a single episode. In Young Sheldon, we know that this narration, all these episodes are only partially narrated by Adult Sheldon, and that is a older Sheldon than we ever see or hear from in TBBT.
It’s so odd having watch sunny in Philly, to seeing him in this. But honestly he’s the best part of the young Sheldon!
Helps us realize that a story narrated from just one person's point of view can be very different from the true nature of the incident
The Young Sheldon series definitely redeems George's character a great deal from the character we only heard about on TBBT.
I have a theory that Sheldon and his mother only made up all the bad stuff we heard about George senior on Big Bang theory as a way to cope with him being gone, Sheldon especially seems like he made it all up to hide his pain
Agree because ain't no way a genius like him would forget about those things his dad done for them
I wish I’d had either of my parents their when my period started. I’d been on a flight from the Bay Area to PNW (by myself) and noticed it started for the first time when I landed. Than drove to the beach in a car for 3 hours. Finally got my parents on the phone when we got to the house and made my mom tell my cousins wife who than told my cousin (my second cousins are my age) who than went and got me a bunch of stuff at the store at 930 at night. I was mortified in the moment, but in actuality they made me feel so comfortable and like there was nothing to be ashamed of.