X-Men '97 We've Come To The End
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- X-Men '97 Season 1 has come to a close with the final episode 'Tolerance Is Extinction Part 3.' Did it stick the landing? We discuss the fates of the X-Men, Magneto, Bastion and more with spoilers here on Casually Comics!
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Who was your favorite character this season?
All of them
Cyclops, Magneto, Gambit, and Nightcrawler were my favorites this season.
Madelyne Pryor. she had the style and power without the "faint every 30 minute" syndrome of the original Jean.
she also had a way better treatment than the comic version.
Magneto and Scott stole the show.
Cyclops & Magneto pretty neck-and-neck but I'm biased for them being my favourite in the comics.
Storm was almost there but I felt Lifedeath should not have had been split and more time to sell Storm & Forge, and we should've had Lifedeath II following it (but from memory they already did that '92).
Apparently they had the rights for Cap, Iron Man, and Black Panther to appear, but not for them to actually do anything. To be fair, Cap was probably exhausted from looking for his shield for weeks.
😂😂
I watched the original series right before '97 came out and they seemed to do the same thing of just having a quick cameo or reaction shot of other marvel characters with no real introduction or context of who the character is. I'm guessing they're doing a balancing act of showing that they're in that shared world of marvel characters but keeping the focus on the X-men and making sure they're the ones saving the day.
Best explanation.
@@maxbruckner8467Apparently the original series cameos were driven by very messy rights limitations. Some of them pushed the envelope. That's how we got Spider-Man's hand during the Phoenix Saga.
I wouldn't call it "rights". Rights implies legal ownership, and this was on Disney+ AKA the streaming service of the owner of Marvel. Rather, it was more so what Disney and/or Marvel Studios was fine letting them use. Like they could use Black Panther... but they couldn't use T'challa, they had to use T'chaka. Likewise, Deadpool is someone they wanted to use for a Morph cameo, but he too was off limits.
sinister turned into an old man, then asking Morph like a mirror how he looks then running away sobbing was like something out a Disney movie had me 🤣🤣☠️
Yeah, that was hilarious!🤣
Not only was it a nice little payback from Morph to mock Sinister in such a deformed state after everything Sinister put Morph through back in the original show, but I also love how Sinister just runs away crying like a teenage girl freaking out over a pimple on prom night😂
It's giving theater kid and I'm here for it
It's funny, but at the same time, sure the Phoenix ripped all the Mutant DNA he'd put in himself out. But the dude started putting it in with Victorian era technology. He's gonna get to his lab, and just fix himself up.
"Eeeaaaagh" that sound was hilarious 😂
Sinister always gives overly dramatic theater kid vibes and I love it. Hell I even love sassy Sinister from Krakoa
Bastion evolving into the form he had when he killed Nightcrawler in the comics had me worried for Kurt when he started bamfing around him.
Kurt lives to bamf another day!
Bruh same I was mad when he transformed the 2nd time. Then he fought Nightcrawler and my heart sank
They surely knew what they were doing to tease us like that. Luckily they didn’t pull that trigger, otherwise Rogue would need serious therapy
Same😬
4:19 if you look at Magneto’s dossier under aliases, there’s Ian and Michael, which are nods to Ian McKellen and Michael Fassbender… nice Easter egg
Excellent catch, fellow nerd!
Also they have the name of the original voice actor of Magneto as well
As well as Wanda & Pietro classified as his children ,which is good to know since they'll try to always get around that in any media that isn't the comics or a cartoon
@@djpegao And Polaris is redacted.
Don't forget David Hemblen, RIP.
This series came out soon after my mom passed. I remember when I was watching X-Men evolution she would always say how “the original X-men show was better” and I never gave it much thought. Now when watching this all I can think of is how much my mom would’ve loved this.
Awwwww ❤
watching 97 and seeing what each previous show did well feels like you can see the DNA from all 3 shows in 97, evolution is kind of an opposite to the original where the characters drive the story with okayish climaxes not as amazing as the ot then the original's story drives the characters and you can see the slight difference in how they deliver it and see how 97 balances it out in both with the original's epicness and evolutions's character depth which you do have more scenes of characters just talking and having more to breathe like kurt and jean in episode 8. even wolverine and the x-men has few bits in there though mostly in it's concepts they tried doing some of which could come in to play in s2
My late mom wouldn't have accepted a statement like yours.
I was not expecting a Cloak and Dagger cameo, but I'm here for it.
Now I want the next season of What If ..."What if Bastion had joined the X-Men.."
More like, what if Bastion's mom let him go to X-Men camp?
That's an excellent idea!
@@ninjaman1986soooooo you just reworded what the OP said...
As a child or accepted their offer now?
@@YakBat as a child.
Jubilee’s big moment of kicking butt was scary cool.
It felt like the things she learned in prior episodes gave her a boost to be one of the characters to commandingly wipe the floor with Bastian. I mean, she clipped his wings and gave him a makeover. 😂
Lol, I laughed when his hair fell into floppy disheveled mode. I was like, "It's on now."
@@CasuallyComics When Bastion had the "floppy hair, half a face" look, he reminded me of Cameron Hodge (who did appear in the original animated series) from the comics, most notably from "The Phalanx Covenant" storyline when he was fully taken over by the T-O virus.
It really felt like Jubilee's graduation day
Honestly, the humans almost destroying themselves feels so real. Those that hate and fear never think what it will lead to. War, fights, thier side losing, ect... they judt never think that hatred leads to mutual destruction
Excellent point
Rogue was a powerhouse again. Fight scenes were 🤌
Nightcrawler shined... Didn't see that coming.
Yeah. One of these shows we're going to get the "Everone touch Rogue" plan. Actually I kept expecting her to try and drain Bastion.
* BAMF *
They are giving her her due on this series -I love Anna Paquin as Rogue but the movies did her dirty- having her as the heavy hitter she IS is just so special.
11:55 I am so glad Valerie Cooper isn't Mystique. Seriously look at her arc. She is an old friend of Charles Xavier who identifies as a mutant ally, but it is implied that she isn't really taking thier plight as seriously as she should(the whole jogging on a meeting with Scot scene). When Magneto is given control of the Xmen she becomes more secretive and distrustful and lends support to a new sentinel program just in case it is needed, only for it to turn out to be so much worse than she ever could have imagined. Due in part to her own support she is directly caught in the Genosha massacre. She directly witnesses the actual horror waiting just under the surface for mutant kind from the perspective of someone on the ground and is radicalized. This all leads to that moment where she, a human, makes the declaration that Magneto was right. That moment is so powerful and her arc works so well becuase she is an ordinary human. Her being Mystique doesn't add anything that would improve this and if anything takes away from it all.
Goes to show how even a tacit support for cruelty can blossom into wholesale slaughter.
Albeit brief and easily missable, one thing I'm really glad X-Men '97 did in the last episode was finally canonize Kitty Pryde in this universe because she never appeared in the original series because of Pryde of the X-Men. For anyone wondering when Kitty appeared, she was in the board of photos Forge was looking at.
Under the name "Shadowcat!" From back when she was Shadowcat - the cute naive rookie teenage X-men and not Shadowcat - the big murderer!
I do wonder if she will be part of the team from the present since Forge seems to look for how is everyone, some of them did got cameo through Morph or appeared quickly so those ones could join Forge & Bishop to find the rest. Not sure for Shadowcat but it would be cool.
i need bobby, pieter, and kitty in season 2 stat, with hopefully some lockheed : )
After Bastion ripped off Cable's arm I was waiting for him to say "Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!"
That scene was so disrespectful lol.
I’m fine with the “cheesy” element of some parts because at the end of the day, it’s a continuation of a cartoon I watched as a kid. It’s very much like the comics in the regard. Some people take this stuff far too seriously and have issue with stuff like the Phoenix wrapping everything up quick and in a hurry (shout out to Rob).
srsly if it didn't have some cheese it wouldn't be the sauce.
0.o
The Phoenix has been in the intro for weeks so I saw it coming.
We wanna talk about how Bastion looked like the Archangel, the harbinger of death?
When I saw that, I started getting Apocalypse flashbacks, so when I saw "3000bc," I immediately called it.
I think my favorite character was Nightcrawler, I don't know much about him, but his optimism was really needed in some scenes.
I got excited over many of the episodes in the season and I am not a huge X-Men fan, but it made me want to go play Lego Super Heroes for them again.
Also DD showing up and getting tossed through a window. ❤ perfection
If you haven't already, there is one episode from the old show focusing on Nightcrawler that you can watch with really needing to know much else. Season 4, ep 8.
Beau DeMayo confirmed Peter found MJ (plus the Morph's confession), and I believe both Jubilee and Sunspot were in the Earth's atmosphere around this time.
I still laugh at the Valerie/Mystique theory, because if she was, they would've been a bit more blatant, and now it wasn't confirmed, it's so much funnier lol
It's gonna be a wait for season 2... But X-Men is so back!
Isn't this the last of his involvement with the show how can he confirm anything about season 2 or did he get canned while it was in production?
@@tman1782 He already finished writing and boarding all of season 2, with ideas for season 3 in the rough draft state.
I was hyperventilating when Bastion went to his "final form" from Messiah Complex. More so when he was fighting Nightcrawler. I kept thinking, "PLEASE NOT KURT DIE TOO! LET THE FUZZY ELF LIVE!! LIVE!!! DAMMIT!"
It was second coming but yeah him changing into that form had me worried
Dr. Strange had the cape on OVER his scrubs. So he definitely changed before the surgery and then put the cape back on. Love it.
I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he used magic to sterilize it before they started.
The cape does have a mind of its own and probably didn’t want to be covered by those ugly scrubs.
It’s like the Columbia hoodie under the Cloak of Levitation from No Way Home.
perhaps his cloak is sentient like in live-action and can assist him in surgery... it can at least wipe his brow for him without needing a medical licence
Sinisters little "eeeeeewww" as he ran away was very..... vaudeville like. It's just funny as hell
I'm not even a huge X-Men fan but I can honestly say X-Men 97 is the best thing Marvel Studios have made in years and this show has been flawless. This show felt like a love letter to X-Men and the Marvel universe.
There's a moment at the end when Kurt teleports this random henchman into the air and just drops him, and I had to rewatch it 20 times.
10/10
Seen First Class? Evil Nightcrawler AKA Azazel does this to kill off security guards.
@@RickReasonnz Yeah! There was just a way that he hit the sand that cracked me up haha
I also thought that they kinda left stuff between Scott and Charles unresolved, but looking back there is a line where Scott confronts Bastion saying "Hey, sometimes parents screw up."
At first I thought he was talking about himself and Cable, but now I think he may have been talking about Charles and this is Scott accepting that Charles meant well even if he did make mistakes.
@9:00 what Jean says does address that they are the same species implicitly. Starting by denying the replacement with a "No" and following the explanation that they are just having human babies that happen to be mutants.
I guess I was hoping for something more explicit ( that sounds wrong lol) given how hard they played, the specism elements they took from E is for Extinction. To me, it left it a little ambiguous, but hey, that's just me.
Hard to say that when mutants see them selves as something separate
@@CasuallyComics
I see what you mean and it's interesting when you consider the nasty politics around replacement theory today... Jeans answer would not soothe people, they'd want something explict for comfort...
However, Jean's answer gives me the answer OP mentioned... we're the same species because we're family. "We come *from* you" and we're raised by you, together :)
(I read "Explicit" with perfect innocence, but after your remark, saying "considering how hard they were playing" nearly dropped me with laughter)
Seeing Rogue go ham, and a little bit of Phoenix were satisfying.
Really enjoyed this reboot; looking forward to seeing the next season.
Rogue was "Man of Steeling" the fuck outta Bastion XD. LOVED TO SEE IT.
Rogue going all out had me genuinely on the edge of my seat :)
you misspelled " continuation "
Beast: "...oh dear."
😂😂😂
Yeah, where is he going to get his conditioner in this time period?
Me and my friend were screaming "kiss!" With Charles and Eric's whole scene
For REAL.
I did the same any time Morph was trying to cheer up Logan or straight telling him I love you
Y e s !
100% I'm sure their heads being portrayed as so close to each other was no accident.
Onslaught is just lurking there in the backside of Charles mind, being a slow burn.
I was just waiting for an onslaught reveal and then it was apocalypse.
I actually really liked that bait and switch. It was kind of annoying when right after episode 9 aired everyone flocked to CZcams to explain how Onslaught would be the next big threat. Like it would have been nice to let the show surprise us with that but instead every comic reader felt the need to beat the show to the punch. So it was kind of nice they didn’t go that route so we could actually be surprised at the end.
Apocalypse speaking perfect modern English despite being 2500+ years before it existed.
I feel like Onslaught will be saved for the next season after Apocalypes. Cuz it will require everyone not just the X-men, which they have set up with all the cameos in this season.
Could still happen
@@adamfrey4920 it's uh, it's his mutation.
I'm extremely glad that Nightcrawler gets to be on the team. He was always a favorite of mine and seeing him stick around and be in the story is great. Also if Cable is still in the present I wonder if in season 2 he'll be leading a New Mutants team alongside Jubs and Roberto and if that'll morph into X-Force. Maybe we'll finally see Deadpool in the show.
I would love to see Deadpool and Cable onscreen together again. They're one of my favorite comic book friendships.
Wonder if the Deadpool iteration for this universe would be grim and gritty, unlike the all too familiar Ryan Reynolds take?
@@michaelandreipalon359originally when this showed aired Deadpool was gritty and serious. The funny one was established long after this show ended so it’s up for debate whether they wanna do either but it would be better to keep the serious one
Honestly the attempt at recruiting bastion was something I didn’t like at first but then I realized: that’s basically the entire thesis behind the X-men. “Show everyone that we can be better,that there is a better path.” After realizing that I basically had no qualms with the episode
The Phoenix put in a lot of work to have a choice in hosts. She didn't want to find *another* redhead out there. She just got her mail redirected
Yeah this is not Krakoa, but even in the 92 series Logan & Scott have these moment when they recognise they both love Jean and when she's in danger they kinda comfort each other. In a very 90s-guys-cant-be-vulnerable, but it's still there.
totally agree with this, plus I'm pretty sure by this point Cyclops knows that Jean does hold a lot of affection for Logan and he means a lot to her. Maybe not 100% romantically, but still enough to know if he were to die Jean would be devastated.
I actually liked the lines where they called Bastion “the future” because it’s referencing the fact that Bastion bonded with Cable’s arm in order to undergo his new evolution. Through bonding with Cable’s futuristic tech he’s become something that is so technologically advanced you can’t even comprehend it. That was my take on it at least.
I went into this shoe blind. Was never a big xmen fan, had some knowledge of major arcs from the books. I was genuinely blown away, and im going back to rewatch the original now.
I love me a full philosophical Beast.
I feel that a "Be the best at what you do. Survive." Would have landed better than "Heal" as per my mileage.
YES! That was the exact word I was saying in my head.
I was trying to come up with something better than what was used in the show but you nailed it. It sounds better out loud and it also applies better to Wolverine's character and history.
Xavier: Holocaust beam!
Magneto: Not the Holocaust!
Ayyyyyyy, SolidJJ reference
Good thing they had Scott
I dont think that part of Cyclops was ignored, people just made a bigger deal, he was grieving for his son, he talked about that with Maddy and he just got his son back, there was nothing to do there.
I didn't feel like Scott's arc was incomplete or that Scott wanting Magneto to die and blaming him came out of nowhere (he even said the same thing in part 2). Even if Scott was questioning if Xavier's dream was attainable and wondered if Magneto was right, we still have to remember people can doubt if they are taking the right actions and flip their opinions. To me it made Scott more layered character. Scott knows the Earth without a magnetic field will doom all life on the planet. He blasted Xavier because he was afraid for Nathan and Jean, but it was hardly him turning against the X-Men and getting ready to join Magneto.
If the series does want to go a more militant Cyclops path in the future it can be a gradual process that has multiple seasons of build-up.
It was subtle. At the end of the day, despite his frustrations, Scott was just ready to sacrifice his life for humanity without a second thought, because that's who he is at his best, a hero.
The duo fight with Wolverine and Nightcrawler, the Summers family, Storm and Jean really feeling like they're sisters and expressing their love for each other, Xavier's infinite patience and still trying to support Magneto no matter what. It was so full of nuanced relationships and action. Hell, I even loved that Wolverine made animal noises during the fights; him enjoying the fight with Magneto - IT. IS. SO. WELL. DONE!!
This has been the best x content in 30 years. This is the coolest that Scott has ever been and that Jean has ever been. Hell even Jubilee was cool. 10/10
LOL Cyclops and Jubilee (especially older Jubilee..wow power!) being cool were thr biggest surprises for me.
Notice Storm, Morph, and Wolverine are missing. Apocalypse probably already captured them, flung the others into the future or the past, and are going to have them as horsemen in the present.
I really can't wait for Gambit as Death.
5:22
Or...Rogue is Magneto's beard and the point of a beard is to be public facing and obscuring of the real romance. Which started when two men came out of the closet (as mutants) for the first time with each other.
Just throwing that out there.
Charles is 100% his anchor.
@@CasuallyComics And he went in to heal his man's mind and get him back.
Magneto's had four kids (that we know of) with two different women. He's clearly Bi.
@@brettwood1351 Wait, who is the fourth kid?
EDIT:
Unless you meant the kid that died...then I forgot about that one.
@@brettwood1351 Having kids with multiple women doesn't mean you're bi, that's the dumbest thing I've heard, especially for magneto..
I keep thinking there's got to be something going on with the Hellfire Club. They have that little spot in the last episode's intro, and the scenes they show in the intro are relevant to the plot in some way. And I can't bring myself to believe that they'd kill off Sebastian Shaw in the way they seemed to.
Side note: Ororo being giddy at the return of Phoenix made me smile.
Maybe Shaw will be Pestilence or Famine for Apocalypse's new horsemen. Make a comment about corperate mindsets there.
I'm certain it is setup for something in a latter season. The Hellfire club was also involved with the ruling of Genosha and Gambit sensed that something was amiss with it all.
@@brettwood1351excellent!
Literally for a split second I thought they were giving us Onslaught but honestly I am glad they went the other way
I get the feeling Onslaught is coming.. possibly season 3
Beast's final line was perfect XD
I’m doing a rewatch of the original series and yes in the second major appearance of Warren when they go onto Apocalypse’s ship and Beast befriends it he does refer to himself as En Sabah Nur when he’s taunting Warren
As a long-time X-Men fan and fan of the original series, even though I wasn't born when the show was around, HOLY S*** , THIS SERIES IS EXCEPTIONAL (pun intended). No joke, this series is so masterfully well written, with phenomenal animation and truly compelling characters and deep dark themes that put the Fox X-Men movies to shame. Truthfully this series is some of the *BEST MARVEL MEDIA WEVE SEEN EVER SINCE ENDGAME* (except No Way Home, GOTG3 and Loki)!
Compared to how phenomenal this series is, the Fox movies seemed like amateur student films with such a bare-bones understanding of how truly incredible and insane the X-Men stories can be when you truly hire people who care about these amazing characters.
After watching this show and this epic finale, Bastion became one of my favourite X-Men/Marvel villains. Theo James especially gave a really superb performance as Bastion; now, whenever I read a comic featuring Bastion, I'll hear his voice. Bro, the number of cameos in this series is INSANE! Cyclops and Jean saying goodbye to Cable/Nathan had me in tears🥺.
YO, APOCALYSE IS COMING BACK IN SEASON 2 AND DEFINITELY BRING GAMIT BACK AS HIS HORESMAN OF DEATH, JUST IN THE COMICS! I can imagine how heartbroken Rogue will be when she is forced to fight the man she loves😭
💔
10/10 SEASON 1
I NEED A SEASON 2 NOW!!!
I think Scott’s character development was actually rather subtle. Through out he’s wondering if Xavier didn’t trust him and whether he would be a good father, whether it is worth to keep fighting the fight. In this episode he’s seen what Xavier and magnets paths had led them, and that there is a middle ground to it all. Not just fighting for vengeance or being so peaceful that you become worthless. He’s seen the X-men is his family and he will give others a chance because that’s what the X-men are: another chance and heroes
The Phoenix was hinted after Jean returned, I felt. I felt like it was the idea of her reclaiming herself and rising from the ashes. Plus, it answers of when the switch took place.
Loved the finale and can't wait for season 2. The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix and Ascension are some of my favorite mini series
that show just lined up ALL the best old cross overs and kicked them squarely in the groin
I did out loud say Deus Ex Machina when Phoenix showed up.
To be fair, Rogue as an "anchor" over his children isn't that weird considering he 1) Only learned they were his kids a couple years ago (and I don't think even knew them personally), and 2) They don't like him very much. Actually, Lorna wasn't even established as his kid until well after the show was over. Overall, just a crew of rectonned relationships. (I guess they added Magrogue to the backstory because otherwise it would make Rogue less sympathetic to viewers--as it is, a lot of folks still kind of slutshame her, and while I don't think it made her a bad person, I do think it lessened the mic drops.)
I think it reflects more on the people who slutshamed her.
I also feel that the ship wasn't meant to be "anchors" but people in Magneto's life who were going through similar "waters". Rogue is the most recent one with what happened at Genosha clearly messing her up.
Gimme a 90s Spiderman continuation!
I need it in my life!
Hopefully with less production constraints cause as much as I still love the 90s Spider-Man cartoon those strict rules placed on it at the time do shine through as an unintentional flaw nowadays
@@DarkKnightofAnime We'd be getting the same kinds of constraints as 97. Looking at what they got away with here, I think we'll be okay.
Though honestly the hand suckers on Morbius were brilliant.
I actually hope it's a distant sequel to it and even X-Men '97, not unlike Batman Beyond.
Just make sure the legacy character isn't Miles Morales though. Folks like Ben O'Reilly need more love.
Very happy to see Rachel. Curious to learn what they are gonna do about her origin and connect it better to the more streamlined lore they are doing in the show.
Hope Dazzler gets ressurected as a Horsemen because I want her alive.
Side note: Your t-shirt is awesome, Sasha haha.
Really enjoyed the ending and the series as a whole. In the finale, Rogue going off on Bastion was absolute top!
i love how gay and in love charles and magnus were in this episode 😂
“Sure the earth was almost destroyed, but the Magnerogue ship is floating strong! 💪”
My thoughts exactly
@@mysticsalamander9881 Uh, he's old enough to be her grandpa, and SS Rougbit is mine.
She's complaining about it but the show makes blatantly clear that Rogue's heart belongs to Remy.
@@brettwood1351 to be honest I think there both good in different ways. I do prefer Rougbit, but I just get excited when Magnito gets screen time.
So, a Disney+ ad was on immediately when I clicked this video, showing like 2 minutes of the show, and I thought you were going all in on showing your favorite scenes 😂
I LOVED this show. I wasn't sure how Disney was gonna handle it but was completely blown away by how good it was. It felt true to the original 90's aesthetic but aged with the kids who grew up watching it. This is the best thing D+ has made so far.
I just can't stop thinking about Morph singing "One of your Girls". Beau de Mayo murdered us with this -apparently- one sided love, and it was just too real.
The "be the best at what you do, heal" came from a line from Maverick when he was showing up and talking about Wolverine, and then changed up Wolverine's catch phrase.
Aaa X-Men 97 is roller coaster ride of emotions. I'm so excited for season 2. Hoping season 2 will mention Morph's confession 😭 That fact the love is one-sided hurts.
I love Cyclops's reimage and development. He understands what Xavier was by the end... a father with a lot of weight to forgive his enemies. By the end, he's a father, teacher, and better leader than before. The X-men aren't soldiers, they're family Imo...
I loved the show. I thought it started out a little slow but once we hit episode 5 i was obsessed and i think they absolutely stuck the landing. It slayed.
A lot of your points I was also thinking. Great breakdown!
I found it funny that when they kept talking about Bastion being "the future", when the X-Men and mutants in general were called "Children of the Future" sometimes... and are essentially "the future" of humanity.
Two versions of the future fighting for survival? Hm...
Whatever. This was such a joy to watch. Your thoughts mirror mine.
The X-Men are back! They fucking back, baby!
This ending was the most comic bookie/super heroie the show has gotten so far
From Rouge fighting Bastion on the alien ruins of the moon, to beast modifying a sentinel into a space ship, to an asteroid sending people back in time (Bardock style) It really was as over the top as it could be.
Also, the Peter and MJ had me screaming. Madame Web, you did not abandon TTwTT
Thank you for covering this, I enjoyed this show a lot as a kid and I'm so glad it's back and I found out about it because of your videos... plus I like your reviews as well.
First off: LOVED this finale! So, so good for me. I was so happy with how well it set up season 2. And Beast's final line had me laughing so hard I nearly cried. LOVED this series overall. It was like they reached into my brain and gave me the story I didn't know I wanted. Roberto claiming the name Sunspot at the end made me grin - one New Mutant accounted for! Small glimpse of Mother Askani - OMG RACHEL!!! Rachel is hands down one of my all-time favorites in the X-books, mostly from her time on Excalibur, which was my first actively read X-book. Rachel, Kitty, and Illyana are my trifecta. I want more of Rachel next season. I want more KURT next season - I love what they've done with his character. The series has done what so far, only Krakoan-era books have done - made me like Cable. Teenaged Cable in the comics was more appealing to me than gruff old man, but this cartoon has given me a new appreciation for him. I want more all over - and I want those left on Earth to put together another team. With Blue and Gold split across three time zones, feels like present day could use more X-Men. Time for some New Mutants? I hope so! I want Dani and Rahne and Sam and Shan and Illyana and Amara. I want more of the Genoshian survivors - Pixie, Herman, etc. I want more Emma! I want more of this series, and I want it to maintain the quality of character and story it's had this season, at the least.
I'm impressed this show got me to care about Bastion and Madelyn Pryor. They're pretty one-note in the comics but this show got me invested in the former and sympathize with the latter.
Maddie is hardly one note in the comics, but you have to consider she wasn't originally written to be a clone and no one knew Jean was coming back.
I ve been waiting for your verdict I really enjoyed it but as a 30+ year xman fan with alove for the claremount era so I love cyclops elevating stories
Got an X-Men ad for the show in the middle of the Vid thought it was part of the vid at first
For me, it began with like a 2 minute ad for the show, and thought the same thing ! 😂 BONUS!!
I’m so glad I found this channel. I remember randomly stumbling upon this channel when you posted your Batman video on Blight.
This popped up in my notifications at the perfect time. Was deciding to watch a review of this series and you were the first person i thought of watching. 😆
Keep rockin lady.
I didn't watch the Fox Kids shows regularly and hated the 90s X-men comics (that's where the 97 story beats came from I'm guessing) but I still liked the new series quite a bit. It would be awesome if Disney decided to revive Earth's Mightest Heroes in a similar fashion.
Some are saying the X-Men and En Sabah Nur are going to fight Rama-Tut, Kang the Conqueror in season 2.
This is an amazing video I loved it :)
Every episode was so hype, I couldn't get enough. I loved it, I'm so happy I can be happy about X Men again ;~;
Loveddd it!!!
It was so good!!!
Love your thoughts on it too.
This series has been my first earnest foray into the X-Men fandom. I did go back and watch ‘92 after about three episodes into ‘97 to help fill in some gaps, but I have enjoyed ‘97 tremendously. I don’t know the references, the comic nods, the common story lines, who’s who. So I have been yanked around at every emotional beat. Episode 5 hit me so hard with the destruction of Genosha. And then everything continued to just keep going. I was expecting them to maybe pull a time travel and undo it all, but no! Gambit stayed dead. Wolverine had his skeleton ripped out. Jean psychically obliterated DNA from Sinister. I was in awe and horror. 10/10. Can’t wait for season 2!
Side note: My favourite improvements from ‘92 to ‘97 is that Scott and Jean are like…actual people. They have wants and needs that aren’t just Scott being a whiny entitled dick about Jean, and not just Jean’s whole life revolving around Scott’s mere existence. They broke out of that prom king/queen caricature and I actually like them now. (I wanted to rip ‘92 Season 3 Scott’s arms off. He made me so angry lol.)
Congratulations, CasuallyComics! You are the ONLY youtube pundit that pointed out the continuity error with the helmet. Not only that, but Charles arms were BOUND at the end of ep 9. There is no way he could get that helmet off.
I think the song during the conversation between Professor and Magneto in his mind was very appropriate in the episode and in the meta
I loved it! ❤
It was so good.
I felt happy at the end.
I'm so excited for more!
This felt like a high budget fan fic community board. It's nice to have another way to enjoy the story with all the bells and whistles of being created with love for the original.
His big, blue Apoko-Lips.
It was so good!!!!
So...is the 2nd season gonna be X Men 98?
X-Men 3000 bc?
I love your analyses of all things comics. You always provide such insightful viewpoints that shows your passion and makes going back to old stories a joy. I'd love to see you do a review of some 80s and 90s X-Men and X-adjacent books. I'd love to hear your take on early Excalibur. 💖🙌🏾
I feel like we missed an opportunity with Mystique not being here.
I think it was fine not having her involved with everything
I think she might be hiding in plain sight in the form of an ordinary human.
Overall, I felt that this series reminded me of the old Batman TAS. It got the spirit of the comics right. Good stuff.
Now... bring on Rama-tut!
I think the DCAU just hired actual comic book writers.
I have one frustration with this show, and it’s the fact that it’s so reliant on previous knowledge. I feel as though it is one of the greatest pieces of comic media for already existing fans, but I can’t bring new friends and family into it without either attempting to explain so much as we watch or before we watch, or asking them to watch and read so much before watching. Again, I think this is phenomenal, but my opinion is definitely raised because I’ve followed X-men for most of my life, and I could read between the lines a lot more.
I loved it 🔥
I'm so excited for where this is going! Such a nostalgic journey, it was a great ride! Highly recommend!! My favorite character is Morph, I would love to see more of a story arch for them.
I think the show did an okay job this season, though it certainly was not without flaws. The thing I felt was its most consistent problem was the pacing, likely evident because of trying to fit what could've been thirteen or fourteen episodes worth of story into a ten-episode season, but my biggest complaint (which looks like it'll be ramped up exponentially for season 2) is its use of "relative anachronism," which I've mostly opined about previously expecting just a one-off usage but given the contents of this season finale needs further explanation. Other people supposedly have problems with how certain characters were portrayed throughout this season vs the original series and most common comic depictions, but that's beyond the scope of this comment.
X-Men '97 was advertised with the conceit of "what if the original series continued through 1997." I fully understand that it was produced starting from 2023 and therefore would have access to the knowledge and history of the extra 25+ years beyond the end of the original series run, but that being said if you call a project a sequel series to the original animated run _and_ even though it was made with 2020s technology expect it to honor the spirit of as if it were released in 1997 then it would not have access to storylines that didn't happen yet to use as source to adapt regardless of whether the source was comics, movies, games, or even audio plays or CZcams videos. All they have to do to avoid such scrutiny is not advertise it as a sequel series, not advertise it as "97."
I originally complained that the Genosha events being adapted in episode 5, later reinforced by the presence of diamond-form Emma Frost in episode 7 as a survivor, were one such anachronism under this definition since apparently the only thing this could possibly have adapted was the very specific equivalent event from the early 2000s, years after the original animated series ended and not yet existing in 1997. It could be easily brushed off by "rule of cool," the fact that in the context of the season it was a "natural" occurrence given the progression of events and did what it was supposed to do to further progress the season's overarching plot, but most importantly _being a one-time thing._ But when you have the sequel hook, the teaser, of the hand of Apocalypse picking up the burnt card of Gambit, making it all but obvious that what others have been saying is almost certainly gonna happen about adapting "Gambit as the Horseman of Death," part of a storyline that's _years even later_ than the Genosha event in the comics, then anachronism isn't just a one-off occurrence for flavor, it's a pattern.
Bastion absorbed Cable's cyber arm during their tussle and upgraded himself. That arm almost certainly also contained Cable's time-travel tech in it, and just on that exchange alone that ended up opening the path to being a pretty groovy way to ultimately executing the Totally Not Siege Perilous scenario they did in a way like how the original series could have done it. _That_ is the kind of original series honoring they should've been doing more of during the season, preferably with more time/episodes. Instead, they're gonna MCU it and fast-forward past years of stories...actually, worse, since they've already called their hands as being relatively anachronistic this time. Not just fast-forwarding past years of stories, fast-forwarding past when the series would have chronologically aired and adapting more and more material that didn't exist yet.
For a show that calls itself "X-Men '97," I absolutely did _not_ want the show to adapt material from years later until it's caught up (i.e. the '97-'98 season runs then can use material from 1997, the '98-'99 season can use from 1998, etc), and even then they should still learn the lessons from the original series' meh attempts to adapt their own period contemporary storylines like Phalanx Covenant (which was clearly a rush job) and just not rush them.
I couldn't possibly agree more on most of your points, Sasha! I loved Storm and Sunspot, this season...
Ah i liked they calling him Future Incarnate.
Yes, it is silly but it is SO Chris Claremont.
it feels like a Chris Claremont comic. They are not shying away from even the silliest parts of it.
True! Lol. Great point 😄
@@floepiejane also "Magneto Lives!"
Only comic book characters talk like that.
It is great!
@@adrianomoraes5992 totally agree ✌🏽😄