Segundo Volante FM24 Role Guide
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Welcome to today's video where we're talking about the segundo volante defensive midfield role in football manager. If you've ever wondered how this role functions in FM24, then you've come to the right place!
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CHAPTERS
0:00-0:22 INTRO
0:22-2:28 OVERVIEW
2:28-3:06 DOWNSIDES
3:06-5:14 PLAYERS
7:32-8:25 OUTRO
This channel is a breath of fresh air for the FM community on YT. Clear, concise and informative. Looking forward to more in the future!
thank you for the kind words!! so glad people have been enjoying the channel!
Real shit.
as a guy whose been playing the game for about 5 years your videos are still really informative and easy to digest. looking forward to seeing more of your content!
thank you for the comment and really glad that you're enjoying the videos!
love how you incorporated the feedback from the other video so soon with the different levels of players, keep it up!
the idea to add in youth prospect examples/what to look for was too good not to incorporate right away haha
You are doing an amazing job with this channel mate. Always learning something from your videos!
really great to hear that the videos are helping!! And thank you for the kind words
Including a youth player to be formed into role X is a superb choice.
I love the Segundo Volante + Regista combination or double Volantes even. Have been using them for years and it is nice to see someone explain the role and how you utilize it. I also want to point out that long shots are quite nice for the role, especially if you play with low/mixed crosses. The Volante will arrive late in the box, right at the time when your WB is looking to cut the ball in to the edge of the box.
What's funny is that as I was getting the screen grabs for Emre Can, I was like, I should probably mention "long shots" when I do the talking head. Funny how I never did haha. Anyway, great tips and thanks for adding!
The quality of these videos are honestly so refreshing compared to the low quality stuff often seen in terms of fm content. Would you be able to analyse the regista next? I feel like it's an underrated role that is so often misunderstood. Keep up the great work man. 👍🏼
thank you that means a lot!! Been starting to do some work on the regista; had a few comments asking about it haha
Loved this video
I got young Ouedrago from Schalke cheaply in my save, as Schalke was faced with a forced Relegation due to financial struggles. He developed in such a great SV, so keep your eyes open for him
great call he's an absolute beast. And like you say, maybe the most underrated because Schalke is so desperate for money you can get him on the cheap.
This is brilliant content, havent subscribed to a channel this quickly in a long time. Keep up the good work brother!
thank you my friend! Glad you enjoyed the video and welcome!
I am new to this channel and its definetly not the last time i will watch your videos, they are simple and effective. Its just great how you can explain so easily without making it difficult to understand. I would love to see you reacting to different tactics and mentalities with them as i just know that my tactics are not balanced and wanna know how to actually make them even better
Glad the videos are helping!! And thank you for the compliments! I've been working on a video about Mentality, but I know the whole thing can be confusing.
One thing to try when making a tactic: put the players into a formation that you think would work together but don't use any tactical instructions. Then, watch the first 15-20 minutes of a match. What happens when you have the ball? Do you wish you retained possession more? Do you wish you were more attacking? When the opponent has the ball, are you not pressing enough? Do you wish you were actually a little more defensive? Once you've got some observations, you can start adding in some tactical instructions.
Schedule some friendlies against teams relatively close to you in scale (for example if you're a English Premier League team, schedule friendlies with teams in the championship/league one.) This is a great way to test out a tactics... hope this helps!
I'm using Cassadei from Chelsea in my Palermo save. Sometimes Bove from Roma.
Thanks for the video. Keep it going
What a great channel discovery! Soothing and calming voice, great music choice, makes you want to listen throughout the full video. Thanks for making these
thanks! and glad you enjoyed the music!! I actually wrote the music myself haha; I have a music degree funny enough and what better way to use it then to make a CZcams backing track XD
This retro style of CZcams videos with the calming music is awesome and, and on top of that you are talking about FM. ❤Much love brother and keep up the good work . I've been trying to prefect utilising this Segundo Volante role in the game, shout out you and hopefully we see more videos and you get more views.
thanks bud i appreciate the kind words! I grew up in the late 80's/early 90's so this VHS/retro style feels right at home for me haha
Quickly became one of my favorite channels. I like the style and also the converstation of the videos are just amazing for me. I'm following closely man. Good luck.
thank you bud I appreciate it! I grew up in the late 80s/early 90s so I feel the aesthetic and style fits perfect for me haha
I'm learning new stuff about some of the roles I haven't used much from your videos. Keep up the good work.
that's awesome, glad they're helping out!
I disagree a bit about the attributes needed for the segundo volante, but the video is very very very very good. Keep it up the awesome work.
Just found this channel via Mustermann. Awesome stuff and some videos for me to binge now! Keep it up man
thanks bud glad you enjoyed the video! And always love a good binge session on youtube haha
amazing content my guy keep it up and we'll be here
thank you seriously that means a lot!
Love the guides love the whole vibe to these videos to man keep it up I need more 🤣
Could watch you talking about soup 🤣 your captivating … cheers for the content
Not going to lie, that may be the greatest compliment I've ever gotten hahaha. Thanks!
Excellent work Sir, would love to hear/view more about relationships like IWB and a MEZ or a BBM with a DLP and so on.
thanks! and great idea; I've been looking to incorporate more how the roles interact with each other. Especially with the fun ideas you can do with positional play in FM24
You can make a video about player traits, show us what advantage we can get from each player traits or tell us which traits are good for each specific role. :p
love the idea; I do need to do something with player traits and which ones are good for each role
I love the chill vibes and relaxed way you explain the role with examples. Linked & subscribed! :D
thank you for the support that really means a lot!
Where have you been all these years, i am playing this games since it was championship manager 03 and the years have just overrun the simplicity. Now i know what those complex roles do. Thank you so much for this content and i hope you do this for every role. Love you, bye!
glad they're helping out!! and yea sometimes the more complex roles can be really challenging to figure out what they actually do (and maybe more importantly how they interact with others).
For a new content creator in the space, the production quality of these videos are amazing! Having the diagrams conform to the 80's retro vibe while also being so informative is really engaging!! Keep up the good work, from here in the UK!!!
I appreciate it buddy!! I spent a lot of time workshopping the best combination of the look of the info without being too much where it was a jumbled mess. Glad it wasn't in vain haha
Love it legend 🔥
Enjoying your videos mate, keep up the great work.
appreciate the kind words! and glad you're enjoying the videos!
Love the style of these videos, keep going!
Glad you like them!!
Great video like all so far! Great concept of doing it, keep it on! 💪💪💪
thanks bud really appreciate the comment and kind words!
hey, been digging a lot of FM24 contents recently to recall my memories. one or two day after i started, your channel pops up and really really helpful for me that had been on a fm hiatus for some times.
great job and can't wait for my daily notifications of your posts!!
welcome back to the FM community! glad you were able to find the channel and join the fun haha. And thank you for the kind words!
Favorite role this year has been the Segundo Volante as it is just absolutely incredible when you not only have the right player for the role, but also the perfect system to get the most out of it as well. I have used it quite a bit in my tactics lately, especially with asymmetric ones which I noticed you hinted at a little. The Segundo, I feel personally, is actually best suited to an asymmetric system that you end up leaving a gap open for them to run into. You can counter the *slight* defensive flaw by having a IWB move into his spot and even having a IFB on the opposite side to ensure you have a minimum of 3 in that back line which will help with the "aggressiveness" of the Segundo. Great video once again my friend! Keep it up!
Great call with the IFB to make sure you've always got a back 3 at least; perfect like you say to get that coverage.
The asymmetrical space you mentioned reminds me a lot of when I dabbled in that kind of formation; I liked to try a shadow striker in the AM area offset with a DLF in the striker role. You get that kinda open space movement that was fun to mess with.
And thanks for the compliment!! Love that you're adding to some good tactcial discussions!
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I need to give your DLF video a watch today, always wanted to implement one and I think having it in a ASYM system would be perfect like you said having them offset with a SS alongside! Keep up the great work my friend!
Man this is so cool. I'm a design dork and your attention to detail to go along with a clear message is awesome. Really well done.
thank you! When I was workshopping some design ideas, I wanted to do something a little different while also having a consistent theme. I grew up in the late 80's/early 90's so this theme seemed like the perfect match! thanks again
Seriously good videos. I love the way these are constructed and the examples or suggestions you give for how to use each role. Please keep them up and I hope you’re having as much fun making them as I am watching them!
thanks bud glad you're enjoying the videos! They're a ton of fun to make! but I'm always trying to work on what needs to be in the video and what can be left out haha. I almost need to do a deep dive on each role too so I can put in everything I want
Loving these videos. So helpful for someone new to making their own tactics.
Glad they're helping out! Like I said in the video, these are the types of videos I wanted to see when I first started out haha
Wonderful content.
thank you!
Nice one, looking forward to the next!
Thanks!
Another really well presented and clearly explained video. Your channel is quickly becoming one of my go to sources for FM content. Really well done mate.
that's awesome to hear, glad the videos are able to help you out! be seriously thank you!
Enzo Fernandez great volante
fantastic video, i use in series C (third italian league) in my Pescara saves, a 433 with a DM and 2 volante and i’m literally killing the league, with a lot of goals scored and very low goals conceded. Btw fantastic video and fantastic channel format. Love from 🇮🇹!!!
Love those Italian lower leagues! Did a save with Palermo once. Some proper players in there. And two SV is an awesome idea, I defnitely need to do some more tactics with that
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker yeah i love it too, if u need more info on tactics ask too, but i don’t think u need me help ahahah 😜👍🏻
Il Segundo Volante è l'equivalente inglese del secondo mediano nella versione italiana di FM?o è il carrillero?
@@jerrywasaracecardriver8893 secondo mediamo
Hey man. I binge watched all ur videos so far and I want to say u r doing an amazing job teaching different fm concepts. I love the way u explain everything concisely and ur display style! I would like to request u to make a video on training schedules for attack and defense if possible 😁
Because I have an all star squad but because of games every two days and my tactics require high intensity, I have to rest them most of the time without any training. When I put a slot of chance creation and another slot of chance conversion tho , they play unbelievably good. Not sure what is the best way to train them 😅
thank you! I appreciate the kind words and glad you're enjoying the game. I've gotten a couple of requests to make a training video, so maybe I'll get to work on one! Thank you for the suggestion.
As for your issue, I do two things for top squads: the first is to send players on vacation routinely throughout the season. So one of my top players will go on a vacation maybe 2-3 times per season. This will keep them more rested throughout the season and fresh for training.
The second, is make a second tactic that is very similar to your normal/high intensity one, but make it less intense. So let's say you're in the 35th minute and closing out the half, play the less intense tactic. Just something where your players aren't playing high intesity for all the matches, all the time (if that makes sense)
Great video! I think RB Lipsk/Salzburg especially using volante in their 4222 and 442 diamond system's a lot
Thank you for the suggestion, I'll check out the tactic thanks!
love the videos
Great Job 🎉
Thank you! 😁
please, upload content like this every day. i like it very much and i could watch it all day!
glad you're enjoying!!
Great videos so far. Waiting for a Regista video.
For the regista I may need to go and find a historical database save so I can get Andrea Pirlo haha. Not sure if I'll find a better example of a reigsta
Cool new background!
Your channel so your rules but would be great to get your interpretation of the Roaming Playmaker role 👍
Very informative video, i've been using a segundo volante recently and finding the right player profile was difficult, you need an all rounder, although i'll prefer a more defensive oriented player that can rely on my playmaker upfront if needed
thanks! And yea same, I tend to drift towards the defensive rather than attacking and try to find those plays elsewhere
I find Segundo Volante’s work very well with a Libero on Defend.
Good call. Libero another underrated role
Another excellent job. You came to bring a breath of fresh air to the creation of content related to FM. Looking forward to seeing your perspective on creating a tactic from scratch. Will you resort to exploits to bypass the match engine (as most content creators do)??
Thank you! Between you and me, I actually don't know what the exploits are haha; all I remember is reading about the corner exploit from... last year I think it was?
Thank you, keep going!!! Do Shadow striker
It feels like I love every role, but I do love the shadow striker haha. Benefits of an attacking midfield player and the strengths of a goal scorer
Great video again, great channel. No-nonsense center back next? 👀
side note, I LOVE the no-nonsense centerback. Some roles have confusing names, or confusion about what they do, love that the NNCB tells you exactly what he's going to do hahaha
Nice vid with the detailed
Glad you enjoyed it
The trait 'arrives late' is crucial for segundo volante.
Without it, the player come up too early so the opponent caught him, a predictable surprise.
With the trait, the player become unpredictable surprise as the opponent already busy with other chore.
Great addition; very true on the "arrives late" player trait. The perfect one for a role like the SV
another banger vid. waiting for the false nine!!!
thanks! so far I've been trying to hit the different position groups, but may have to do a F9 when the striker comes up again! I've had a few requests for it
great vid man. can you do a pressing forward or dlp guide next?
thanks! I'll see if I can get one of those two coming up soon
There are plenty of videos explaining fm roles, what im missing how for example different midfield roles interact with defense lines or attacking midfielders. Lets say if I use dlp mezzala b2b, do i need bpd? Can i use two iwb? If you could shed a light this way, would be awesome. Doing great job btw! Love channell
Great idea; I'll see if I can start incorporating some more ways the roles interact with the defense/other roles in future videos
Very Informative ! What Midfield role would you suggest to put in front of the Segundo Volante in a 4-3-3, when u have a DLP (D) next to him ?
So like a reverse 4-3-3? Two DM and a CM? I'd probably do something like a box to box midfielder or a central midfielder (on support/attack, depending what you have the SV on).
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymakerThank you!
no problem! good luck and let me know how it works out!
Not really used to the volante role, but I'm gonna guess one reason to not use the volante over a BWM would be because the volante's attacking tendencies could leave a gap in the midfield the opposition could exploit in counters.
Yep right on. You see in the video some of the SV runs puts him right next to the opponent goalie, this could definitely lead to him being caught out. One of the reasons why I like a holding defensive midfielder next to him
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Thanks for the reply!
I could definitely try incorporating volante/DM combo in my save. One final question:
Is a CAM a good option to have in front of this volante/DM pairing?
@@spinyslasher6586 Absolutely! Try maybe an advanced playmaker or attacking midfielder (either one on support) with a SV on attack. The CAM will drop towards the midfield and will always have the SV and the DM as outlet passes. And a SV on attack will get you forward pressure, so you 've got a nice balanced midfield
pls do a dlp or cf or
difference between IF and IW
been looking to do a video on IF vs IW!
Can you make a video about Anchor or Halfback because I would like to know differences between these two? Also video about mezzala would be useful too.
I'm still relatively new player and your videos are really useful and thank you for that.
you're welcome, glad you are enjoying the videos and welcome to the game! Those are some great recommendations, and if it makes any difference i LOVE the halfback; it's an awesome role. Here's quick crash course:
Anchor man: sits in the defensive midfield area. Plays it safe, will play short passes. Doesn't get pulled out of position. Great to use in combination with a segundo volante because of this.
Halfback: in an attack, they actually drop back into the defensive line with the center backs. In a 4-3-3 formation, if you have the fullbacks pushing up, the halfback will drop into line with the centerbacks to make a back 3. This lets you be more adventurous with your two fullbacks as you have sufficient defensive cover.
Both of these roles need attacking players in front of them. They're defensive, so try a support and attacking role in the midfield to pair with them. Hopefully this helps!
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker This is awesome explanation, thank you! I am currently using 4-4-2 narrow diamond and BWM on defend as my defensive midfielder, after reading your comment I think that Halfback is probably a better option, thanks once again.
no problem! Let me know if that works for you!
Raumdeuter next please!
great idea! Been looking for a winger position to do next
Can u post a video on how to develop young players? I can’t seem to get any improvements out of them 😢
great suggestion!
Raumdeuter pls
I didn't know so many Americans like football. I always thought they are mostly only interested in their own sports
we're out here! There's been a bigger following (well big for America) of the sport in the last 5~ years. A lot of local teams have really awesome crowds; like in the USL leagues
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker That is cool to hear.
Can you explain Wide Playmaker or how you use a Libero (CB)
a wide playmaker likes to drift inside and use a player who has good passing / vision. Something like an inside forward is usually more concerned with scoring where a wide playmaker likes to pass.
A libero will play like a centerback when you're defending and then act like a midfielder when you're in possession. I plan to do a libero video in the (hopefully near) future so stay tuned!
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker but why is it called advanced playmaker on RW/LW but Wide playmaker on ML/MR
Do you really play with your attribute colours not highlighted depending on the range?! I have never seen that before. If so, Is there a reason you have chosen to do that?
Ha it's funny you mention that, it's become so normal at this point I don't think I even noticed. I actually do play with color attributes but it's very subtle, basically a white/pink for high attributes, white/green for good, etc... but I think the video effect washes out the colors to make it the same.
Sometimes I play with normal attribute colors, but often I like the subtle color attributes because it helps with readibility against a dark background.
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I play with the classic gray for bad, white for average, yellow for good and green for great - so when you were bringing players up my brain instantly decided they were a terrible player but my eyes and ears were following to what you were saying so I think I had some sort of mini stroke in that moment 😂😂😂😂😂
hahaha I totally get that. No wonder you were like "wow this dude is below average" XD
I am just writing to become written.
How is he different from Box to Box?
Does more in the defensive area, and more in the attacking area. The SV's range is from one goalie to the other, aggressively closing down the ball and trying to score goals. The box to box's range is between the two penalty boxes (so not as expansive). The B2B is also less aggressive in the offensive end
I still don't understand this role. To me, he is just a box to box midfielder that starts in the dm area. Why wouldn't you just play box to box in the first place?
The Volante is more of a transitional player, looks to carry the ball forward, pass quickly when you regain possession and be at the end of chances. The Box to box is more of a utility player, the Volante is an attacking threat from deep. And keep in mind that the Volante is a DM in defense which makes a huge difference
great explanation!
great video.
Glad you enjoyed it thank you!