The NWOBHM Big Four: Ranking the 1977-1983 Albums of Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Saxon, and Def Leppard

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  • Join Pete Pardo & Martin Popoff as they rank the 1977-1983 albums of Motorhead, Saxon, Iron Maiden, and Def Leppard, the years of the NWOBHM. #nwobhm
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  • @IraSiegel
    @IraSiegel Před 6 dny +9

    “Newer” Motörhead albums are all underrated gems.

  • @HockeyDudeJames2
    @HockeyDudeJames2 Před 6 dny +10

    Best music and Movie Channel on CZcams.

  • @sabinoabdala5685
    @sabinoabdala5685 Před 6 dny +7

    Top 10
    1. Killers
    2. Ace of Spades
    3. The Number of the Beast
    4. Iron Maiden
    5. Piece of Mind
    6. Overkill
    7. Bomber
    8. Another Perfect Day
    9. Motörhead
    10. Iron Fist

    • @HockeyDudeJames2
      @HockeyDudeJames2 Před 6 dny +2

      Great list. I always felt like an outsider liking Killers more than the Number.

  • @skyscraper38
    @skyscraper38 Před 6 dny +2

    Splendid show once again guys. Very enjoyable to watch, as always. 👍🏼😊🤘🏼

  • @christianhaynes1954
    @christianhaynes1954 Před 6 dny +5

    I'm inspired to listen to killers again 👍thanks .

    • @patriotpizzaman
      @patriotpizzaman Před 5 dny

      I listened to it again today after watching this and I still like the debut and seven or eight of their other albums better than Killers. Killers has been basically an EP to me since I got it after Number of the Beast came out. I like three songs ALOT and I skip the rest unless (like today) I'm giving it the old college try one more time.

  • @johansoderberg6546
    @johansoderberg6546 Před 5 dny +2

    A possible Idea for a ranking show: Martin Birch productions, either in terms of best productions or best records.

  • @samopaik8695
    @samopaik8695 Před 6 dny +4

    Tygers of Pan Tang need to be here.

  • @independenceltd.
    @independenceltd. Před 6 dny +6

    1. The Number of the Beast
    2. Piece of Mind
    3. Iron Maiden
    4. Killers
    5. Denim and Leather
    6. Strong Arm of the Law
    7. Ace of Spades
    8. On Through the Night
    9. Wheels of Steel
    10. Overkill
    11. Power & the Glory
    12. High 'n' Dry
    13. Bomber
    14. Iron Fist
    15. Another Perfect Day
    16. Saxon
    17. Motorhead
    18. Pyromania

  • @thomashubner697
    @thomashubner697 Před 5 dny +3

    This ranking of the three NWOBHM Bands + Motorhead is probably the hardest ranking to do for me. Not one bad album.
    1.Iron Maiden
    2.Another perfect day
    3.Power and the glory
    4.Piece of mind
    5.Killers
    6.Iron fist
    7.Overkill
    8.Strong arm of the law
    9.Pyromania
    10.Ace of spades
    11.The number of the beast
    12.Denim and leather
    13.Bomber
    14.Wheels of steel
    15.High' dry
    16.Motorhead
    17.On through the night
    18.Saxon

  • @ilovevinyl620
    @ilovevinyl620 Před 5 dny +2

    My Top 10:
    1. Saxon- Strong Arm of the Law
    2. Motörhead - Ace of Spades
    3. Iron Maiden- Killers
    4. Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast
    5. Saxon - Wheels of Steel
    6. Motörhead - Iron Fist
    7. Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
    8. Saxon- Denim And Leather
    9. Motörhead - Overkill
    10. Saxon- Power and the Glory

  • @stephenroberts8964
    @stephenroberts8964 Před 5 dny +4

    Some of Martin's favourite songs on each album are eyebrow raising. Id like to know if those tracks were always his favorites, or did he just grow sick of the obvious classics?

  • @fitterstoke45
    @fitterstoke45 Před 5 dny +1

    The usual thought stimulating gig, guys - thank you. I'm with you about 'Killers', except that my respect for Bruce doesn't stop it from being comfortably my favourite Maiden album. I'm afraid that I can't regard Motorhead as a NWOBHM band so they don't figure in what I'll confine to a Top Five albums of the sub-genre but, for what it's worth, here it is:
    1. Saxon 'Wheels of Steel'
    2. Iron Maiden 'Killers'
    3. Saxon 'Power and the Glory'
    4. Def Leppard 'High 'n' Dry'
    5. Saxon 'Strong Arm of the Law'

  • @markwoolner9598
    @markwoolner9598 Před 6 dny +6

    No way Motorhead was or ever were a part of the new wave of British Heavy metal. And the movement was 79 to 81 not 77 to 83. Brush up on your history guys!

    • @Hecatecrossways
      @Hecatecrossways Před 3 dny

      @@markwoolner9598 Usually it's people labeling mid to late 1980s albums as NWOBHM, as far as I am concerned NWOBHM began with the 1979 single Trespass - One of These Days c/w Bloody Moon, and ended with the release of Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast

  • @metaldams78
    @metaldams78 Před 6 dny +8

    Every one of these albums are killer except that debut Saxon - and even that album has a few tracks I like.

    • @Hecatecrossways
      @Hecatecrossways Před 4 dny

      @@metaldams78 The Saxon debut blows them all away. Backs to the Wall was the Heaviest Metal song since Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and by far the all time greatest Saxon song.

    • @metaldams78
      @metaldams78 Před 4 dny

      Backs to the Wall, Militia Guard, Stallions of the Highway and Frozen Rainbow are fine. But is there a single song on any of the other 17 albums discussed worse than “Still Fit to Boogie?” “Big Teaser” is only slightly better.

  • @trach1
    @trach1 Před 6 dny +3

    Killers has finally surpassed POM for me. I feel it's aged so much better

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 Před 5 dny

      It has yes, PoM while certainly a good album tumbles along like an iron weed...

  • @mechanicalanimal125
    @mechanicalanimal125 Před 6 dny +2

    Also agree about the later era Saxon and Motörhead is so good and rivals the initial era stuff.

  • @jimmyjambhere
    @jimmyjambhere Před 6 dny +6

    Piece of Mind may be my favorite album of all time. The first 7 Maiden albums are untouchable 🔥🔥🔥I love every song

  • @katoholgersen1099
    @katoholgersen1099 Před 4 dny +1

    Great show😀🇧🇻👍

  • @brandonbelt5055
    @brandonbelt5055 Před 6 dny +15

    Martin's preference for Phil Campbell era Motorhead over the Eddie Clark/Phil Taylor era is probably his single weirdest/contrarian take.
    Top five for me:
    1) Piece of Mind
    2) Killers
    3) Iron Maiden
    4) High n' Dry
    5) Bomber

    • @sandorfintor
      @sandorfintor Před 6 dny +7

      he's just WRONG and everybody knows it

    • @ericrobertson2581
      @ericrobertson2581 Před 5 dny +1

      I prefer the short Brian Robertson era and I like a few of the post 1984 albums but not at the level of those Clark albums.

    • @NicholasPayne-uq2rt
      @NicholasPayne-uq2rt Před 3 dny +1

      At first I thought Martin said modern Motorhead ruined his appreciation of the band overall which I agreed with until I realised he didn't mean that. For me the real band was up to No Remorse and Killed By Death the last great song. It got pretty ropey after that with Phil Taylor rejoining and then Lemmy moving to the USA.

    • @brandonbelt5055
      @brandonbelt5055 Před 3 dny +1

      @@NicholasPayne-uq2rt I enjoy the Cameron Webb production era of the band, but it doesn't beat the Bronze Records era. By a long shot.

    • @Gregbaltzer
      @Gregbaltzer Před dnem +1

      I disagree with Martin on many things except how much Ram it Down sucks

  • @mechanicalanimal125
    @mechanicalanimal125 Před 6 dny +4

    So martins favorite album of the whole list and he doesn’t even own it?? He always makes me laugh with his crazy ways

  • @JoltinJoe26
    @JoltinJoe26 Před 6 dny +2

    Top 5
    1 The Number of the Beast
    2 Piece of Mind
    3 High N Dry
    4 Pyromania
    5 Iron Maiden

  • @franciskocher200
    @franciskocher200 Před 6 dny +1

    Nice video...

  • @spaceace4387
    @spaceace4387 Před 5 dny +1

    Out of the ones I’ve heard:
    01) Number Of The Beast
    02) Iron Maiden
    03) Ace Of Spades
    04) On Through The Night
    05) Killers
    06) Piece Of Mind
    07) High n Dry
    08) Pyromania
    09) Overkill
    10) Bomber
    11) Wheels Of Steel
    12) Strong Arm Of The Law
    13) Denim And Leather
    14) Another Perfect Day
    15) Iron Fist
    16) Motörhead

  • @mrpositronia
    @mrpositronia Před 5 dny +1

    My top 5:
    1. Piece of Mind.
    2. Killers.
    3. The Number of the Beast
    4. Iron Maiden.
    5. On Through the Night.

  • @aldebaran4154
    @aldebaran4154 Před 6 dny +5

    I agree with both of you on Killers. While listening to it last week I couldn't help thinking it may now be my favorite Iron Maiden album. Ides of March into Wrathchild is just breathtaking. And the rest of the album just keeps the greatness going.

  • @drewrose374
    @drewrose374 Před 6 dny +2

    The albums of the individual bands ranking was pretty easy, ranking them all in order was hard! LOL!
    This era is where I found MY music! not my older brothers music or rock radio! well with that said...
    18. Saxon
    17. Motorhead
    16. Iron Fist
    15. Strong Arm Of The Law
    14. Wheels Of Steel
    13. Ace Of Spades
    12. Pyromania
    11. Bomber
    10. Overkill
    9. High N' Dry
    8. Denim And Leather
    7. Number Of The Beast
    6. On Through The Night
    5. Iron Maiden
    4. Power And The Glory
    3. Piece Of Mind
    2. Another Perfect Day
    1. Killers

  • @darwinbeard4373
    @darwinbeard4373 Před 6 dny +7

    Def Leppard said they were "Light Alloy".

    • @brucybabyy7355
      @brucybabyy7355 Před 6 dny +3

      1st 3 great! after that. sorry.

    • @darwinbeard4373
      @darwinbeard4373 Před 6 dny +3

      ​@@brucybabyy7355I've got a lot of bands like that, Motley Crue, Twisted Sister, Ratt, etc

  • @shotakuervo
    @shotakuervo Před 12 hodinami

    I remember seeing Iron Maiden "Killers" in the record store rack and the artwork stopping me in my tracks, not knowing anything about the band. Still my favorite Maiden album.

  • @frankies9465
    @frankies9465 Před 6 dny +3

    I love all of those Saxon albums. Denim and leather and strong arm of the law wpuld be higher on my list

  • @bernardgranite
    @bernardgranite Před 6 dny +4

    Martin with the 2 1980 Saxon albums ranked low....I don't get him.

    • @markkaminski4496
      @markkaminski4496 Před 5 dny

      Yes he has a strange view on a lot of music, can not understand his loathing of Gary Moore's guitar sound , crazy.

  • @user-yx8cx6bg1g
    @user-yx8cx6bg1g Před 5 dny +1

    TOP 5:
    #1 KILLERS (1981) absolutely brilliant! THE best Iron Maiden. Hypnotic, drug-like, powerful, punk energy metal classic!
    2. Overkill (1979)
    3. High 'N Dry (1981)
    4. Piece Of Mind (1983)
    5. The Power and The Glory (1983)
    Btw, Paul D. rules on KILLERS!! It's one of the best metal/punk vocal performances ever!
    The best music has an ability to make you feel like you're high on drugs, while totally straight. KILLERS...the songs, the playing, and Paul DiAnno's incredible, unhinged vocals do just that!
    Marc

    • @ericrobertson2581
      @ericrobertson2581 Před 5 dny +1

      Purgatory and the title track,hell the entire album is awesome.That was the Maiden lineup in studio and live for me.

    • @user-yx8cx6bg1g
      @user-yx8cx6bg1g Před 5 dny +1

      ​@@ericrobertson2581 absolutely! Purgatory, the unbelievable title track, Wrathchild, Murders in The Rue Morgue, Drifter, Innocent Exile, etc , etc. Man, it's all brilliant!
      And to this other guy here, about the production .. You are out of your mind, son! The production is perfection. The music, the arrangements, the vocals...it's all fantastic!
      *sorry, I got an update of another commenter's ridiculous tirade, and it somehow connected to mine here ??

    • @ericrobertson2581
      @ericrobertson2581 Před 5 dny +1

      @@user-yx8cx6bg1g The production is great,not so on the debut but the songs overcompensate.

  • @mjp8648
    @mjp8648 Před 6 dny +2

    Pretty much everybody has Iron Maiden at the top. But for me has to be Wheels of Steel and Strong Arm of the Law.

  • @user-re5zc2ss5h
    @user-re5zc2ss5h Před 6 dny +3

    We all hear things differently but I still think Pyromania is about 90% High and Dry and only 10% Hysteria. It’s still a full on hard rock album
    that just happened to explode in popularity. It was written with Willis still in the band and came out in January 1983 so it certainly wasn’t influenced by the hair metal era, it was just about to start. I don’t know, I think it gets shit on a little too much these days. I was at the perfect age, I turned 15 in March 1983 and all my friends who listened to hard rock and metal had it. It had big hits but if anything Bringing on the Heartbreak from the previous record was more of a chick-bait ballad than anything on Pyromania. And Die Hard the Hunter alone might be my favorite DL song. Edited to clarify: I didn’t mean it got crapped on by Pete and Martin, I just mean in general when it comes up in these conversations most seem to diss it now.

    • @treff9226
      @treff9226 Před 3 dny +1

      Excellent analysis of Pyromania, echoed my thoughts exactly! Pyromania is still guitar heavy and most of it rocks with balls and attitude!

  • @tanktuba
    @tanktuba Před 5 dny

    This is the first time I've been able to make a list of every album without having to listen to any of them. With the exception of the 1st Saxon album, the rest were in heavy rotation for years. I matched 4 picks each. My number one is TNOTB. It was the first metal album I heard, it's a before and after moment. And it's probably the greatest album cover ever.
    I'm with Martin on Motorhead, their last three albums are as enjoyable to me as any of the classic lineup records. Great show. Always more NWOBHM.

  • @oskarklang8616
    @oskarklang8616 Před dnem

    Overkill is my favourite album ever!
    Limb from Limb is underrated.I won’t pay your price and I’ll be your sister too.

  • @graemeanderson-n9g
    @graemeanderson-n9g Před 6 dny +1

    notable shout out for diamond head...still love leps first one 'on through the night'...classic album artwork

  • @Hecatecrossways
    @Hecatecrossways Před 5 dny +1

    My favorite ' NWOBHM ' songs 😂😂😂
    Black Sabbath - Neon Knights
    Iron Maiden - Gangland
    Motorhead - Iron Horse
    Led Zeppelin - In the Evening
    Judas Priest - Metal Gods
    Budgie - Melt the Ice
    UFO - the Writer
    Thin Lizzy - Cold Sweat
    😂Get it ?????😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @GordonHeaney
    @GordonHeaney Před 6 dny +2

    I really like Iron Fist, I agree, it's no where near as bad as people say. It was also the first Motorhead album I heard, which explains it a little

    • @ericrobertson2581
      @ericrobertson2581 Před 6 dny

      First Motorhead song I heard was Iron Fist on a PBS show called RockSchool lol also first time I heard Gary Moore.

  • @starchild6347
    @starchild6347 Před dnem

    1: Ace Of Spades
    2: Piece Of Mind
    3: Overkill
    4: Wheels Of Steel
    5: Number Of The Beast

  • @63mckenzie
    @63mckenzie Před 4 dny

    I remember when Motorhead first started they were being thrown in with the punk bands.

  • @gilbertgonzalez1365
    @gilbertgonzalez1365 Před 6 dny +1

    The way I described Killers is that is has street swagger, especially in the tittle track

  • @vplexico
    @vplexico Před 3 dny

    “Photograph is the only song I don’t like on here” hahahahaha that’s the best song they ever did.

  • @LarryFleetwood8675
    @LarryFleetwood8675 Před 6 dny +1

    1. The Number of the Beast
    2. Killers
    3. Overkill
    4. Strong Arm of the Law
    5. Iron Fist
    6. Bomber
    7. Another Perfect Day
    8. Piece of Mind
    9. Denim and Leather
    10. Ace of Spades
    11. Wheels of Steel
    12. Iron Maiden
    13. Motorhead
    14. On Through the Night
    15. Power & The Glory
    16. Pyromania
    17. Saxon
    18. High'n'Dry

  • @paulh6673
    @paulh6673 Před 6 dny +1

    1. Killers
    2. Ace of Spades
    3. The Number of the Beast
    4. Overkill
    5. Piece of Mind
    6. Iron Maiden
    7. High n Dry
    8. Pyromania
    9. Iron Fist
    10. Bomber
    11. Strong Arm of the Law
    12. Power and the Glory
    13. Wheels of Steel
    14. Another Perfect Day
    15. Denim and Leather
    16. On Through the Night
    17. Motorhead
    18. Saxon

  • @oskarklang8616
    @oskarklang8616 Před dnem

    Killers is fantastic.Prodigal son and The instrumentals are so good.Piece of Mind is the greatest album by The Irons though.

  • @aaronsteelman4732
    @aaronsteelman4732 Před 4 dny

    Martin has repeatedly said that if he had to pick his best NWOBHM albums, seven or so of the top ten would be from Maiden or Leppard. In this video, only four bands have been considered. Yet, that math still doesn’t work. When bands with smaller discographies are counted, I’d like to hear Martin’s overall top ten NWOBHM records. Perhaps that could be done next Friday.

  • @carlosdanger6129
    @carlosdanger6129 Před 6 dny +3

    You may as well throw Whitesnake in there as well, they formed after Motorhead in 1978

    • @matthewhipps3221
      @matthewhipps3221 Před 6 dny +2

      But the thing is they weren’t a heavy metal band at the time. They were a blues-rock band. They didn’t really become a heavy metal band until 1987.

  • @jimekberg
    @jimekberg Před 6 dny +1

    1. Overkill
    2. Ace of Spades
    3. Strong Arm of the Law
    4. Wheels of Steel
    5. Power & the Glory
    6. The Number of the Beast
    7. Piece of Mind
    8. Another Perfect Day
    9. Bomber
    10. Denim and Leather
    11. Iron Fist
    12. Killers
    13. Motörhead
    14. Pyromania
    15. High 'n' Dry
    16. Iron Maiden
    17. On Through the Night
    18. Saxon
    19. On Parole

  • @49TheWall
    @49TheWall Před 4 dny

    So many excellent points by the two professors of rock! Too bad you didn't include live albums because No Sleep is easily the best of that bunch!

    • @shaunfulton7261
      @shaunfulton7261 Před 3 dny +1

      It's a load of old rubbish, they don't fully understand the NWOBHM. Motorhead aren't a NWOBHM band.

  • @49TheWall
    @49TheWall Před 4 dny

    1) Killers
    2) Power and the Glory
    3) Number of the Beast
    4) Piece of Mind
    5) Another Perfect Day
    Please remember Satan when you talk about the best overall NWOBHM albums. That band is so criminaly underrated!!

  • @loungedweller
    @loungedweller Před 6 dny +4

    1. Motorhead - Another Perfect Day
    2. Iron Maiden - Killers
    3. Saxon - Strong Arm of the Law
    4. Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
    5. Motorhead - Ace of Spades
    6. Saxon - Power and the Glory
    7. Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast
    8. Saxon - Denim and Leather
    9. Saxon - Wheels of Steel
    10. Motorhead - Iron Fist

  • @hardrockingtriviashow667

    For me, Motorhead pre-dates NWOBHM and Motorhead's members weren't as young as the rest of the scene was. Just my 2 cents!

    • @seaoftranquilityprog
      @seaoftranquilityprog  Před 5 dny

      All 4 bands were formed in 75 and 76.

    • @markkaminski4496
      @markkaminski4496 Před 5 dny

      Exactly,, just had eps or albums released 1979, when the movement was formed. Are a heap more that if had made more of an impression would easier be in the top 4.

  • @keithleeuwen877
    @keithleeuwen877 Před 6 dny +3

    Just some info: Marseille were the first NWOBHM band to tour and have an album released in the United States through RCA Records. The band promoted their Marseille album on tour in the US with Nazareth and American south coast boogie band Blackfoot during the summer of 1980. Wonder if anyone else has ever discovered them, sorry not related to top 4.

    • @geoffbanton4049
      @geoffbanton4049 Před 6 dny +2

      I like Marseille Neil Buchanan was the main guy he had a childrens tv show called Art Attack here in the uk and sold the rights to the USA for millions True story

    • @keithleeuwen877
      @keithleeuwen877 Před 6 dny

      @@geoffbanton4049 Thanks for sharing !

    • @Kenneth-fk3py
      @Kenneth-fk3py Před 6 dny

      Marseille excellent!! Well, not their first album Red White & Slightly Blue on Carrere records. But the follow-up S/T album was excellent. My buddies and I rocked out to that daily (especially their greatest tune "Lady of the Night"). I saw them at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto on that Nazareth tour with Blackfoot (3rd row floors). Unfortunately, no further backing etc. and they all but dropped out of sight. A good album a few years later with Sav Pearce on vocals but Neil Buchanan had already left to do the Art Attack show by then. Keep Rockin'!!

    • @keithleeuwen877
      @keithleeuwen877 Před 5 dny

      @@Kenneth-fk3py Good Deal !

    • @markkaminski4496
      @markkaminski4496 Před 5 dny +1

      Yes I agree.

  • @social191
    @social191 Před 6 dny +4

    1) Iron Maiden-Iron Maiden (1980)
    2) Saxon-Wheels of Steel (1980)
    3) Motörhead-Bomber (1979)
    4) Motörhead-Overklll (1979)
    5) Saxon-Denim and Leather (1981)
    6) Iron Maiden-Killers (1981)

  • @Hecatecrossways
    @Hecatecrossways Před 5 dny

    My favorite Songs From the Featured Albums
    1. Saxon - Backs To the Wall
    2. Iron Maiden - Gangland
    3. Motorhead - Keep Us On the Road
    4. Saxon - 20,000 Feet
    5. Def Leppard - When the Walls Came Tumbling Down
    6. Motorhead - Iron Horse
    7. Iron Maiden - Phantom of the Opera
    8. Motorhead - Metropolis
    9. Iron Maiden - Invaders
    10. Def Leppard - Answer to the Master
    11. Motorhead - Lawman
    12. Def Leppard - Let it Go ( interesting rhythm guitar techniques)
    13. Iron Maiden - Quest For Fire
    14. Motorhead - Jailbait
    15. Def Leppard - Foolin
    16. Iron Maiden - 22 Acacia Avenue
    17. Saxon - Princess of the Night
    18. Iron Maiden - Where Eagles Dare

  • @neonknight821
    @neonknight821 Před 6 dny +2

    Motörhead - "Iron Fist" isn't a great opener? I couldn't disagree with you more, Martin............ and Pete putting Def Leppard - Pyromania at number 16............ that hurt

    • @MartinPopoff
      @MartinPopoff Před 5 dny

      Like I said above, no riff, crap trundle-ending punctuation chords. Actually no chorus too, right? Underwritten.

  • @marilyncatterall402
    @marilyncatterall402 Před 5 dny +1

    I disagree with Tygers Of Pan Tang being a big drop after these four ...... In 1981, they released both Spellbound and Crazy Nights, and if Def Lpeppard are allowed to be judged on their first 2 albums, and Saxon are termed "big", then the Tygers are right up there. I know it's all "ifs and buts", but imagine what they might have achieved if John Sykes had stayed.

  • @kimmohietala5359
    @kimmohietala5359 Před 4 dny

    Killers was the first album I bought.

  • @newrockerman
    @newrockerman Před 5 dny

    These bands were also excellent live, I was there are many gigs. There was nothing coming over from the USA at the time that could offer as much for the young UK metal fan like me.

  • @jorgemaria3624
    @jorgemaria3624 Před 5 dny

    Damned flies always in these shows, but never the less good rankings

  • @adnilrummut105
    @adnilrummut105 Před 5 dny

    1. motörhead - overkill
    2. iron maiden - killers
    3. iron maiden - piece of mind
    4. saxon - power and glory
    5. motörhead - ace of spades
    6. iron maiden - the number of the beast
    7. saxon - strong arm of the law

  • @drewrose374
    @drewrose374 Před 6 dny

    Looking forward to next week! Martin mentioned ending in 1983 but what year are we starting at? 1977 with Motorhead?

    • @MartinPopoff
      @MartinPopoff Před 5 dny +1

      Like I say, they and we really start in '79.

    • @drewrose374
      @drewrose374 Před 5 dny

      @@MartinPopoff OK Thanks Martin!

  • @DiamondKing666
    @DiamondKing666 Před 5 dny

    This is the hardest one yet, i love all of them and dont know if this is my Final Ranking, since most of them are pretty interchangeble for me.
    1 High n dry
    2 Strong arm of the law
    3 Piece of mind
    4 Number of the Beast
    5 Pyromania
    6 Iron fist
    7 Power and the glory
    8 Iron Maiden
    9 Overkill
    10 on through the Night
    11 Killers
    12 wheels of Steel
    13 Ace of spades
    14 Denim and Leather
    15 Bomber
    16 anorher Perfect day
    17 Motorhead
    18 Saxon

  • @ericrobertson2581
    @ericrobertson2581 Před 6 dny +1

    I liked the later Venom albums much more than the Raven,Motorhead, Leppard and Maiden so Venom are actually the NWOBHM band I like most...I never would've predicted that in the late 80s after Possessed + Calm Before The Storm lol

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 Před 5 dny +1

      Venom hold a special place in my heart, they're chaotic yet 'melodic'... lol

    • @ericrobertson2581
      @ericrobertson2581 Před 5 dny +1

      @@LarryFleetwood8675 Venom and Venom Inc still making enjoyable albums , while the others just didn't... Mantas + Cronos in for the marathon,not the sprint..Still hoping for that Abba collaboration LMAO

  • @thekivster
    @thekivster Před 6 dny +10

    Maybe Motörhead could be Proto-NWOBHM. They’re part of it but not fully.

    • @independenceltd.
      @independenceltd. Před 6 dny +5

      1st wave - Sabbath, Zeppelin, Purple, Heep
      2nd wave - Priest, Lizzy, UFO
      3rd wave - Motorhead, Rainbow, Gillan
      NWOBHM - Maiden, Saxon, Leppard, etc.

    • @shaunfulton7261
      @shaunfulton7261 Před 6 dny +5

      Pre - NWOBHM. Definitely not part of it, but prominent during the period.

    • @metaldams78
      @metaldams78 Před 6 dny +1

      My issue is not only was Lemmy in Hawkwind, but he also had a hit with the Rockin Vicars covering The Kinks as far back as the British Invasion!
      On the other end of the spectrum, no doubt Motorhead musically and attitude wise fit in with NWOBHM

    • @NealeTurner
      @NealeTurner Před 4 dny

      They started it.

  • @Hecatecrossways
    @Hecatecrossways Před 5 dny +1

    I can't believe that they both ranked the Saxon debut so low on the list. Stallions of the Highway , Backs to the Wall, and Frozen Rainbow were absolutely brilliant well crafted songs. Big Teaser was a terribly corny song, but the rest of the album was great Classic NWOBHM.

    • @mjp8648
      @mjp8648 Před 4 dny

      I agree. The problem I feel is the terrible production, even for the period it was recorded. Some of their demo versions sound better! I love that each track sounds different (from each other) but is still sounds like the same band.

  • @bernardgranite
    @bernardgranite Před 5 dny

    Quest for Fire is a good song. Bruce singing a bit awkward but from 1:54 till end it's the sound of Maiden that we all love.v

  • @markbateman9222
    @markbateman9222 Před 6 dny +1

    Motorhead always strongly denied being a "metal" band. Lemmy always insisted that they were a"rock n' roll band" and introduced the band on stage as such.

    • @MartinPopoff
      @MartinPopoff Před 5 dny

      He was wrong. Crossed with just trying to get a rise.

    • @markkaminski4496
      @markkaminski4496 Před 5 dny

      As I've mentioned as well., pretty much every time they played he said that, so do not belong in there period

  • @JVynes
    @JVynes Před 6 dny +2

    TANK, Venom, Motörhead & Maiden 🤟

    • @shaunfulton7261
      @shaunfulton7261 Před 6 dny

      No. Motorhead were never part of the NWOBHM. I was there. I know.

    • @GordonHeaney
      @GordonHeaney Před 6 dny +2

      @@shaunfulton7261 I agree, I was there too. They're grouped with NWOBHM but were already pretty well established by that time

    • @shaunfulton7261
      @shaunfulton7261 Před 6 dny +2

      @@GordonHeaney Of course they were already well established. They were on Top of the Pops in 1978 and Lemmy was already somewhat of a star long before the movement began. The problem here is Popoff spreading falsehoods.

    • @seaoftranquilityprog
      @seaoftranquilityprog  Před 6 dny +1

      @@shaunfulton7261 you guys act like we created this whole 'Motorhead is part of the NWOBHM' thing...it's been debated and discussed for decades by journalists, historians, and authors. We feel they belong for the reasons we gave. It's just a discussion.

    • @seaoftranquilityprog
      @seaoftranquilityprog  Před 6 dny +3

      @@GordonHeaney and for the record...Iron Maiden were formed in 1975...Motorhead were formed in 1975...Saxon were formed in 1975...Def Leppard were formed in 1976. This whole idea that Motorhead were way more established and don't belong is simply not true. Yes, Lemmy was in Hawkwind, but let's not pretend that Hawkwind were some huge band and he was a household name. Even though that first Motorhead album was recorded early, Motorhead wasn't release till August of 1977, and other than in the UK, the rest of the world had no clue who they were until Overkill and Bomber a year and a half later.

  • @scottricci5063
    @scottricci5063 Před 6 dny

    Pyromania is the exact moment-in-time marker my girlfriend and sisters started borrowing my Def Leppard albums.

  • @davidking2799
    @davidking2799 Před 6 dny +10

    Guys you can rant as much as you like but Motorhead are not NWOBHM. Anyone from Britain would say the same!!!

    • @evollution1
      @evollution1 Před 2 dny +2

      Exactly and the movement started in 1979 not 1977

    • @oskarklang8616
      @oskarklang8616 Před dnem

      I disagree.I’m from UK too.

    • @evollution1
      @evollution1 Před 17 hodinami

      79-83. The emphasis is on the NEW.Band formed around that time.Motorhead Priest etc were way before the new bands formed.Geoff Barton coined the phrase in Sounds magazine.Get your facts straight.

  • @kennbrown4638
    @kennbrown4638 Před 6 dny

    1. Iron Maiden: Piece of Mind
    2. Def Leppard: Pyromania
    3. Motorhead: Ace of Spades
    4. Saxon: Denim & Leather
    5. Def Leppard: High & Dry
    6. Saxon: Power & the Glory
    7. Moorhead: Overkill
    8. Iron Maiden: Number of the Beast
    9. Saxon: Wheels of Steel
    10. Motorhead: Bomber
    11. Def Leppard: On Through the Night
    12. Iron Maiden: self-titled
    13. Iron Maiden: Killers
    14. Saxon: self-titled
    15. Motorhead: Another Perfect Day
    16. Saxon: Strong Arm of the Law
    17. Motorhead: Iron Fist
    18. Motorhead: On Parole

  • @Hecatecrossways
    @Hecatecrossways Před 5 dny

    I think that Saxon - Backs to the Wall from the 1979 self titled Saxon album should be considered the greatest Heavy Metal song of all time.

  • @AlexDizzys
    @AlexDizzys Před 6 dny +4

    This is interesting
    1. Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
    2. Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast
    3. Saxon - Strong Arm of the Law
    4. Saxon - Power and the Glory
    5. Motorhead - Overkill
    6. Def Leppard - Pyromania
    7. Def Leppard - High and Dry
    8. Saxon - Denim and Leather
    9. Motorhead - Iron Fist
    10. Motorhead - Ace of Spades
    11. Motorhead - Bomber
    12. Saxon - Wheels of Steel
    13. Iron Maiden - Killers
    14. Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
    15. Def Leppard - On Through the Night
    16. Saxon - Saxon
    17. Motorhead - Motorhead

  • @eldorado852
    @eldorado852 Před 5 dny

    It breaks my heart when I hear people with knowledge talk about "filllers" on The Number of the Beast or Ace of Spades.😅Despite all that, quite entertaining as always.

  • @bernardgranite
    @bernardgranite Před 6 dny

    Killers....Ace of Spades....Wheels of Steel...High n Dry
    The best from each band

  • @dtltmtgt
    @dtltmtgt Před 6 dny

    Will you guys attempt to rank albums from these bands after '83?

  • @ericrobertson2581
    @ericrobertson2581 Před 6 dny

    My favorites from bands who were considered part of NWOBHM are Welcome To Hell/Iron Maiden/Stay Hard/Killers/Pyromania/Another Perfect Day/Black Metal/Rock Until You Drop/Overkill/PowerSlave/Cast In Stone/Nothing Exceeds Like Excess/Ace Of Spades/# Of Beast/High N Dry/From The Very Depths/All For One/Euphoria/7th Son/Orgasmatron/Prime Evil/

    • @shaunfulton7261
      @shaunfulton7261 Před 6 dny

      Another Perfect Day? That's a Motorhead album - they're not a NWOBHM band.

    • @ericrobertson2581
      @ericrobertson2581 Před 6 dny

      @@shaunfulton7261 Yes I know but since they lumped them in,I did that caveat "considered" ...For me the later Venom albums were so much better than the Raven,Leppard,Maiden and Motorhead,I ended up liking more Venom albums than the others.

  • @Kenneth-fk3py
    @Kenneth-fk3py Před 6 dny +1

    Another great show gents! I, as many, am big on the Tygers of Pan Tang as a pillar of the NWOBHM movement but do understand your stance with Motorhead in one of the slots here. Well here's my list on this topic:
    1. Def Leppard - High N' Dry
    2. Saxon - Power & The Glory
    3. Def Leppard - On Through The Night
    4. Iron Maiden - Killers
    5. Def Leppard - Pyromania
    6. Saxon - Denim And Leather
    7. Iron Maiden - Piece Of Mind
    8. Saxon - Wheels Of Steel
    9. Iron Maiden - Number Of The Beast
    10. Saxon - Strong Arm Of The Law
    11. Motorhead - Ace Of Spades
    12. Iron Maiden - S/T
    13. Motorhead - Another Perfect Day
    14. Motorhead - Overkill
    15. Motorhead - Bomber
    16. Motorhead - Iron Fist
    17. Saxon - S/T
    18. Motorhead - S/T
    Can tell I've never been the biggest Motorhead fan and that Def Leppard were my greatest "discovery band" back when no one knew who they were in 1980! Sadly they didn't retain the same drive in the following years (although their pocket books say otherwise, LOL!). Again great show! Keep Rockin'!!

  • @jimkanavy6654
    @jimkanavy6654 Před 5 dny

    I love Iron Maiden but Motörhead is supreme in this arena for me. I listen to Motörhead wayyyy more than any of these other bands, except Def Leppard which I just don't listen to. I just saw Saxon on tour with Uriah Heep. Both bands were incredible. That said I tried to give a reasonable top 10, but it's all Motörhead and Maiden lol.
    Real #1 No Sleep 'til Hammersmith
    1. Another Perfect Day
    2. Overkill
    3. Ace Of Spades
    4. Iron Fist
    5. Piece Of Mind
    6. Number Of The Beast
    7. Motörhead
    8. Bomber
    9. Killers
    10. Iron Maiden

  • @ianscholes3049
    @ianscholes3049 Před 5 dny

    They also missed out the importance of Neil Kay and The Heavy Metal Soundhouse which played a major role in the development of NWOBHM.

  • @kevinbrown1893
    @kevinbrown1893 Před 6 dny

    1. Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
    2. Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast
    3. Iron Maiden - Killers
    4. Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
    5. Saxon - Strong Arm of the Law
    6. Saxon - Denim and Leather
    7. Saxon - Wheels of Steel
    8. Saxon - Power & the Glory
    9. Def Leppard - High 'n' Dry
    10. Motorhead - Ace of Spades
    11. Motorhead - Overkill
    12. Def Leppard - On Through the Night
    13. Def Leppard - Pyromania
    14. Motorhead - Iron Fist
    15. Motorhead - Another Perfect Day
    16. Motorhead - Motorhead
    17. Saxon - Saxon
    18. Motorhead - Bomber
    19. Motorhead - On Parole

  • @pablodapeckerhead9902
    @pablodapeckerhead9902 Před 6 dny +1

    Aa others have said, its rewriting history to call Motirhead a NWOBHM band. Never were and never will be.

  • @srvuk
    @srvuk Před 6 dny +1

    If you listen to Gangland though the eyes of it potentially being a track written during the Dianno era, I think that you will enjoy it even more because it has elements of old an new Maiden.
    Strictly speaking, Motorhead came way before the NWOBM name was created but I get why they are on the list because to many, they were new at the time.
    I don't get all the love for In Through The Night because it is rather weak, with only Rocks Off being really great. It may have been aimed at he American market, which might explain why they spent a lo of time across the pond, being labelled as sell-outs to quite a few fans at the time. Likewise, although High and Dry has some stone cold classics, tracks like You Got Me Runnin, Lady Strange, On Through the Night, Mirror, Mirror (Look into My Eyes) and No No No (the whole of the second side) are rather weak in comparison with the majesty of side 1. Pyromania is where thigs really took off with a petty much perfect album, chock full of never lift the needle tracks.
    In the UK we also had an additional Motorhead album, On Parole (1979), which was released by the fist label without permission and has some tracks from the first album and some not featured elsewhere at the time.

  • @markhuntington9149
    @markhuntington9149 Před 3 dny

    Don’t get me wrong, I love Killers but I don’t get the love it receives over the debut. I have it no better than 5 in my top five Maidens with the debit at 1. The songs on the first album are better, just that first side alone is to die for. I do agree with High N Dry’s high ranking though as that is an all time favorite from any band of any genre for me

  • @mazeoftorment805
    @mazeoftorment805 Před 6 dny

    not a fan of saxon or DL but my ranking of maiden and motörhead favorite to least.
    Piece of Mind
    Killers
    Ace Of Spades
    Number Of The Beast
    Overkill
    Iron Maiden
    Another Perfect Day
    Iron Fist
    Motörhead

  • @kamranmalik8546
    @kamranmalik8546 Před 6 dny

    1. Iron Maiden- The Number of the Beast
    2. Iron Maiden- Piece of Mind
    3. Motörhead- Ace of Spades
    4. Def Leppard- Pyromania
    5. Motörhead- Overkill
    6. Iron Maiden- Killers
    7. Saxon- Wheels of Steel
    8. Motörhead- Bomber
    9. Iron Maiden
    10. Def Leppard- High 'n' Dry
    11. Motörhead- Iron Fist
    12. Saxon- Denim and Leather
    13. Saxon- Power and the Glory
    14. Motörhead
    15. Motörhead- Another Perfect Day
    16. Def Leppard- On Through the Night
    17. Saxon- Strong Arm of the Law
    18. Saxon

  • @gwts1171
    @gwts1171 Před 5 dny

    I was never a huge Saxon fan (I like the new stuff best), so my list will reflect that.
    19) Saxon (1979)
    18) Strong Arm of the Law (1980)
    17) Power & the Glory (1983)
    16) On Parole (1979)
    15) Ace Of Spades (1980)
    14) Wheels of Steel (1980)
    13) Motörhead (1977)
    12) Denim and Leather (1981)
    11) Iron Fist (1982)
    10) Another Perfect Day (1983)
    9) The Number of the Beast (1982)
    8) On Through the Night (1980)
    7) Overkill (1979)
    6) Bomber (1979)
    5) Iron Maiden (1980)
    4) High 'n' Dry (1981)
    3) Killers (1981)
    2) Piece of Mind (1983)
    1) Pyromania (1983)

  • @dtltmtgt
    @dtltmtgt Před 6 dny

    1 Number of the Beast Iron Maiden 82
    2 Pyromania Def Leppard 83
    3 Overkill Motorhead 79
    4 Piece of Mind Iron Maiden 83
    5 High N' Dry Def Leppard 81
    6 Ace of Spades Motorhead 80
    7 Killers Iron Maiden 81
    8 Iron Maiden Iron Maiden 80
    9 Denim and Leather Saxon 81
    10 The Power & the Glory Saxon 83
    11 Bomber Motorhead 79
    12 Wheels of Steel Saxon 80
    13 Strong Arm of the Law Saxon 80
    14 Iron Fist Motorhead 82
    15 Motorhead Motorhead 77
    16 On Through the Night Def Leppard 80
    17 Another Perfect Day Motorhead 83
    18 Saxon Saxon 79

  • @Almeida5
    @Almeida5 Před 6 dny

    18. Saxon - Saxon
    17. Motorhead - Motorhead
    16. Motorhead - Iron Fist
    15. Saxon - Power and the Glory
    14. Motorhead - Bomber
    13. Saxon - Strong Arm of the Law
    12. Saxon - Denim & Leather
    11. Motorhead - Another Perfect Day
    10. Def Leppard - On Through the Night
    09. Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
    08. Saxon - Wheels of Steel
    07. Motorhead - Ace of Spades
    06. Iron Maiden - Killers
    05. Def Leppard - High 'N Dry
    04. Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast
    03. Motorhead - Overkill
    02. Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
    01. Def Leppard - Pyromania

  • @beetlebum7760
    @beetlebum7760 Před 5 dny

    1. IRON MAIDEN - IRON MAIDEN
    2. MOTÖRHEAD - Overkill
    3. IRON MAIDEN - Piece Of Mind
    4. IRON MAIDEN - The Number Of The Beast
    5. MOTÖRHEAD - Ace Of Spades
    6. IRON MAIDEN - Killers
    7. MOTÖRHEAD - Bomber
    8. MOTÖRHEAD - On Parole
    9. SAXON - Wheels Of Steel
    10. SAXON - Strong Arm Of The Law
    11. MOTÖRHEAD - Another Perfect Day
    12. MOTÖRHEAD - Iron Fist
    13. DEF LEPPARD - On Through The Night
    14. SAXON - Power And The Glory
    15. SAXON - Denim And Leather
    16. DEF LEPPARD - High n Dry
    17. DEF LEPPARD - Pyrimania
    18. SAXON - Saxon

  • @joejohnson-vv6ip
    @joejohnson-vv6ip Před 6 dny

    1. Iron Maiden - Piece Of Mind
    2. Iron Maiddn - Killers
    3. Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
    4. Iron Maiden - The Number Of The Beast
    5. Motorhead - Ace Of Spades

  • @mulicuy
    @mulicuy Před 6 dny +1

    "The Number of the Beast" is the best of these albums. Not as consistent as "Killers," but the highs are just too high. Funny trivia about "Gangland:" apparently it was such a toss-off that they forgot to have Dave record a solo after Adrian's. Listen to that empty space for about 8 bars 🤣That said, it's still better than "Quest for Fire."

  • @ericdinse5047
    @ericdinse5047 Před 6 dny

    As a fan of Motorhead, I see Iron Fist as an album that sounds like all the B sides from Ace of Spades, & I don't mean that in a bad way.

  • @patriotpizzaman
    @patriotpizzaman Před 5 dny

    I listened to Killers again today to see if my feelings on it have changed or if I missed something. Nope! I don't get the love for that album. It's a peeks and valleys album for me where the peaks are pretty darn good and, the rest is ok. None of it's gawd awful but, I'll take the debut over it every day of the week. The production's better than the debut but, the debut has better songs for my money and I'm not put off by the production at all. Could it have been beefier? Sure. Is it St. Anger? Not by a long shot! I love three songs off Killers and seven off of the debut. It's not even close.

    • @ericrobertson2581
      @ericrobertson2581 Před 5 dny

      The debut is perfect in terms of songs but Killers is much better produced and does have some great tracks as well, certainly not as many as the debut.

  • @ziggyzagzi8017
    @ziggyzagzi8017 Před 6 dny

    1. Killers
    2. # 666
    3. Piece
    4. On Thru
    5. High n Dry
    6. IM
    7. ACE

  • @stephenroberts8964
    @stephenroberts8964 Před 5 dny +3

    Iron Fist doesn't have a good opener 😮 Martin...really?

    • @MartinPopoff
      @MartinPopoff Před 5 dny

      Absolutely. No riff. It just trundles, and those three punctuating chords suck. F that song.

    • @stephenroberts8964
      @stephenroberts8964 Před 5 dny

      ​@@MartinPopoffthanks for your reply Martin I'm honored. We don't agree, but hey that's what it's all about right. F that song? Haha cheers.

    • @ericrobertson2581
      @ericrobertson2581 Před 5 dny +1

      First Motorhead song I heard and still my favorite,but Another Perfect Day is my favorite album.

  • @mrpositronia
    @mrpositronia Před 5 dny

    I always see TNOTB as the last NWOBHM Maiden album. Piece of Mind transcends the movement, in my opinion. It's like a butterfly unfurling its wings for the first time.

    • @shaunfulton7261
      @shaunfulton7261 Před 4 dny

      NWOBHM isn't a genre. If you were part of the wave you're a NWOBHM act forever, regardless of sound or style.

  • @rocketrod1444
    @rocketrod1444 Před 5 dny +2

    My Big Four ...... Maiden ... Saxon ... Tygers Of Pan Tang ... Raven . Whatever spin you put on it Motorhead aren't Metal , they play rock n roll .... 😗

    • @shaunfulton7261
      @shaunfulton7261 Před 4 dny

      What do you mean 'my' big four? Def Leppard are far bigger than Tygers and Raven. Do you mean your favourites?

  • @meloralovesdarkness2495

    As far as SAXON goes.. for me is The Power & Glory and then Long arm of the Law, then Denim & Leather. Iron Maiden is Killers, Iron Maiden, Piece of Mind, Powerslave! The other 2 bands I Love but can not rank right now.