Atlanta Falcons made it “weird” with Michael Penix Jr. & Kirk Cousins | Colin Cowherd NFL
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- Colin Cowherd & John Middlekauff react to the Atlanta Falcons selecting Michael Penix Jr. in the first round of the 2024 NFL Draft, what that means for Kirk Cousins, and the future of the NFL franchise.
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Whenever Colin says “a NFL GM told me X” it’s his buddy Tom Telesco
And when he says something about knowing a guy in the eagles building, he means John middlekauf
*who hasn’t worked for eagles in years
He’s also pretty tight with Les Snead
😂😂
.... don't forget my guy in the Colts front office 😅
Falcons GM told us half the reason they drafted Penix. He believes they won't be drafting that high again because Kirk will make them better. However, the part he didn't say out loud was that they don't believe one more player at pick 8 is going to make Kirk a Superbowl winning QB. They needed a QB that'll win enough games that they don't get fired while they prepare the team for Penix to take over. Now, they won't have to trade away the farm to move up for a QB or suck for a season with a bridge QB when they decide to move off Kirk. If Kirk couldn't win a Superbowl with what he had in Minnesota, they know he ain't going to do it in ATL, but he'll probably win enough games that the owner won't fire the coach and GM within the next couple years.
i think the real disconnect is that the fans think that we're only in win now mode. if we were just in win now then they would've hired bill. I think blank wants to win now while ensuring the stability of the the franchise long term so his family won't have to worry as much when whichever one of his kids inherits the team since blank did say he wanted the franchise to stay in the family. this goes with the raheem hire
@@AJ-zt6mf Exactly, if Fans were so darn concerned about Win NOW, they would have given Bill entire Control for 2 yrs.
Win a Superbowl on 13-4 team in Minnesota? Kirk couldn't win a playoff game at home against Daniel Jones 😂. Yeah, I need to get my future guy right now just in case
@@natureredux1957 I don't even understand why people think ATL is in win-now mode. That team in not a good QB away from a Superbowl. However, they're a bad QB away from the HC and GM getting bounced in a year or two, which is exactly why they paid Cousins. They have a long term plan, but they need to win enough that the owner doesn't hit the reset button early. They paid Kirk so they can stay in the building and build this team for when Penix takes over. I actually now think this pick makes more sense than when GB drafted Love. GB had a good team and a Superbowl winning QB. An extra weapon for Rodgers may have pushed them over the hump. ATL drafting Odunze wasn't going to push ATL over the hump. They haven't found the hump yet.
@@1RobertSmith Exactly. Kirk is a very good QB. Better than most people give him credit for, but he's not a Superbowl winning QB. Plus he's 35 coming off a torn achilies. He'll win them more games lowering their draft pick, but even if they draft Odunze, he ain't taking them to the Superbowl.
If you think about it, the move was brilliant. Atl got a veteran QB for 2 years and is right in the playoff race. With the verteran QB, all teams assumed Atlanta wouldn't draft a QB and didn't trade up and they could get them Penix. Many teams wanted him.
Now Atlanta can score 30 points a game while giving up 40 because there defense sucks. Cousins just inherited a worse version of Vikings. All offense and zero defense. Atleast Vikings had 1 game who could rush the QB in Danielle Hunter
So what happens if ATL took a Defensive player at 8 and then he tore his ACL. Then what.🤔 Nothing is guaranteed with any pick.
@@pauliej345 last year the Falcons gave up an average of 22 points per game. They probably will not be worse than that this year
Soooo...they paid cousins 100M to fool everyone so they could nab Penix... brilliant!
@drb5003 so according to your logic teams should just draft best olayer available always without considering a need. Becuase an injury could happen. So a team could draft the same position potentially 3or4 times in a draft even if they have good players already there.
If Atlanta signed Minshew instead of Cousins and was QB needy going into the draft there’s a very real chance teams jump them for Penix or JJ
Maybe penix but not JJ. Odds are Minnesota probably wanted Penix and settled for 2nd choice since Penix is more pro ready and is more of a gun slinger for JJettas and Addison, a game manager like JJ doesn’t have the ceiling of Penix
@@TyroneBiggums789nah Minnesota wanted JJ they just weren’t going to trade the farm for him and would of picked penix as a consolation prize if they couldn’t draft JJ
Vikes wanted Penix for JJettas
Facts bro
Taylor Heinicke was their Minshew.
Everybody needs to calm tf down
Enjoy the attention now Atlanta. By the middle of the season most of us will have already forgotten about your team.
Everyone in NFL talking about the Falcons this must be epic year coming
That guy is all up on his feelings over the falcons not hiring Belicheck.
All this talk of "the most NFL ready" is really starting to get on my nerves. Trevor Lawerence was "Peyton Manning Like", "Can't Miss", "Pro ready"...and bro probably finna hit FA. We see a lot of bust because of this thinking, I don't care what kind of talent a guy has, giving a QB time to learn never hurt a SINGLE person. Starting them right away has ruined far too many
People are really acting like Lawerence Taylor, Derrick Thomas and Bruce Smith was there at the 8 spot. ... The rest of the NFL agrees because it was a record 14 straight offensive players picked. Whoever you drafted wasn't going to move the needle "so now we can win the superbowl"
Kirk Cousins is a barely 500 career QB >> 78 wins 70 losses 2 ties... he has 1 playoff win in 13 years (made it 4 times).. worst record in NFL history on prime time games ( one win on Monday Night football in 10 attempts).... below .500 record vs teams with a .480 win % or above. Eats vs bad teams.... History says he would net the Falcons a few 9 to 10 wins seasons maybe a playoff trip before getting bounced.... THEN WHAT???
Weird are the folks still not getting the Brilliance of the Falcons picking a QB.
Yeah its the massive contract to a 35yr old off an achillies injury is what gets me. But hey. Atl enjoys mediocrity.
Seahawks signed Matt Flynn for big money and the time, and rookie Russell Wilson was week 1 starter. Teams are not dumb, the best players will play. I like Kirk but penix is the better qb right now, no need to “wait for him to develop”
The problem is they paid Cousins an insane amount of money and signed him for 4 years. That’s an elite QB contact. It was crazy. That was probably the huge mistake. If Cousins knew that they were planning to oust him ASAP, barely before his reign in Atlanta begins, I doubt he would’ve wanted to go to Atlanta. Minnesota was such a better spot for him. Now they have a terrible situation where Cousins feels wronged AND they’ve done Penix wrong because Penix should be starting immediately and now he’s going to sit and do nothing for at least 2 years probably.
Kirk was putting up MVP-esque numbers before he got hurt, Penix is not currently better, stop the cap
Colin on Brock Purdy: The Niners benefit only because he's on a rookie contract.
Colin on Michael Penix: It’s a great idea to sign Kirk Cousins to a huge contract that you can't get out of for a few seasons while drafting a QB now.
Apparently, the Falcons negating the rookie contract advantage that Penix provides is a smart move.
Colin needs to understand how the salary cap works.
Remember what Mahomes said about Alex Smith. Taught him how to prepare each week and how to lead a team. Cousins can be that to Penix.
Penix is a leader and is ready to go. I feel sorry for him. Cousins amazes me - can NOT win the big game and has made millions upon millions of dollars.
@dkgdkg2178 I think he is too, I just think seeing someone who's been in the league as long as cousin, he can learn from him. Also agree on not making the big game. All the vets have knowledge to pass on. I felt bad for mahomes having to wait to but it paid off BIG
On one Hand I understand Kirk cousin but at the same time he’s 35 coming off of an tornAchilles injury they are just trying to play it safe
And he was already the least athletic person on the field before that injury
36. And 38 when guaranteed $ runs out. Penix then
This controversy puts more eyeballs on the Falcons, in stadium and on TV. And in a weak NFC South Kirk gets one last chance to shine
he told on himself @4:40
this is exactly why everyone is mad. the falcons are developing a QB that they are thirsty to see.
i’m so happy Terry is my GM.
Since everyone keeps bringing up money as a reason to not like the move … which Investment Decision would be more expensive in your eyes as a GM and Coach ?
1. Taking the second best QB in your eyes bc (he fell to you) at 8 (where you’ll have 5yrs of flexibility) while u have a 100m dollar Starter (currently rehabbing) on a 2 yr deal (essentially)
or
2. Draft a DE that could turn out to be no better than Beasley or Takk and wait until next year to TRY and trade up which would require something like 3 firsts & 2 second rounders to come from the 20s where Kirk will have you positioned due to his success in the regular season. and then that guy may not even be as good as Penix in your eyes (but you Need a QB bc you passed on one in 24’) 🤨
Don’t Worry, i’ll wait…….😒
📌 this comment so ppl can understand… And maybe you can too..😅
Of all of the Sport Gods...Colin Cowherd makes the most sense in what ever his topic is! Go Falcons!!!
I get his point about planning farther in advance. But to be honest, the Falcons fired a coach and there's wasn't a guarantee that Fontenot was going to be the GM depending on who they hired as HC. So the clock started essentially when they hired Raheem Morris. I love the all of the above approach. And Colin points out, they have all these young offensive weapons that are on rookie deals. So it's ok if they spend a lot on Cousins and have Penix in waiting.
Pushback : not all teams have the same resources. Some owners are more cash rich than others which allows them to retain more players and guarantee more money.
ever heard of a salary cap?
@@spryguy1230 you don’t understand how the cap works and I’m not here to teach you. Just Google “NFL teams ranked by cash spending “ and educate yourself on how different owners have different amounts of resources to use.
This isn’t baseball
This isn't the NBA or MLB, there is no Luxuary tax, the cap is the cap. If they own a team they can afford to spend the entire cap. They all get the same money for groceries, some want more items and shop at Wal-Mart some are willing to pay Whole Foods prices for the good stuff and get the rest from Krogers lol
@@HU5T1E cool
What's weird about drafting a young quarterback to sit behind a veteran for a few years ?
@@dokedoker3340That would be similar to GB having a top 10 pick in 2020, and taking Tua or Herbert.. no way they do that. It’s not the exact same as the Love situation for multiple reasons
Penix is also much older than those usual rookie QBs.
Because he’s not a young quarterback and you use a top 10 pick for Starters
Off the board by the time they got another pic
6 QB with high draft stock. Atlanta picking at number 8 at least 10 teams need a QB, no guarantee he would have been there at pick 8. He was so the picked him. Simple.
I think what people are over looking is that the Giants and Titans both passed on Penix and he fell, I dont think the Falcons expected that and when he did they jumped on him cuz he was 2nd on their board
They did nothing wrong picking him at 8...What happens if Kirk Cousins gets hurt and is out for the year....Then What.😮
The media makes it weird
Exactly. Its so annoying
As a Falcons, who really like Cousins, let’s not pretend we signed Joe Montana. Even if he’s healthy, he is what people TRIED to label my Matt Ryan back in the day, a QB with great stats but can’t win a playoff game.
I would rather them do EXACTLY what they did, instead of dying on that hill with Cousins, should Cousins choke again in big games. I love the pick.
Looks like the Falcons had a change of heart on Penix. They obviously had a high grade on him, so you make the pick and you live the the Cousins contract. The worst decision would've been to stick to a timeline that you no longer believe in just because there's a sunk cost in Cousins. Don't compound one mistake with another if you think Penix is a franchise QB, Cousins is certainly not that at 35 (36 by the time the season starts). If Penix is ready in 2 years, no one will care. Falcons fans will be happy, Cousins at 38 will have made a ton of money to be a placeholder.
The aging owner wanted his vet, who won't succeed because he never has, so the GM and HC did the right thing for the longer term. In fact, Atlanta fans will be chanting for Penix by late October.
The QB who doesn’t work on Tuesday is the only one making it weird. Why is Cousins being treated like some sort of untouchable??
Damn,,,,,, Kirk = Mr. Money You are going to get another Contract !! Wow Keep going Kirk!!!
Went from “I can’t believe this happened” to “it’s not THAT bad” 😂 this is like car wreck, just cant look away.
Why is everyone talking about Cousins getting hurt? He's had one injury in his career. Penix is the one who has had a major injury in 4 of 6 years in college. WTF spends 6 years in college and isn't a doctor? I don't think Penix has graduated. Jamarcus Russell had a cannon for an arm too.
49ers got rid of Trey Lance traded up for
Patriots got rid of Mac Jones
Fields got traded
Denver got rid of Russell Wilson after massive contract
Rams shipped out Goff after big deal
-- You can get rid of anyone
66 different quarterbacks started in 2023
Falcon owners love this pick. That’s all that matters!!
Cousin is fine the dude has a great agent his life is great either way lol. He’s made so much money to worry about nothing.
All these NFL players should be seeking after Cousins' agent. Man he gets Kirk paid!
Michael Penix is 23 and only one year older than Jayden Daniels the hyperbole on his age is getting ridiculous
He’ll be 24 at season start
I think Kirk will be a professional and attempt to win a chip in Atlanta, having the best QB and best backup QB in the South is a good thing
Cousins 78-70-2 in NFL with 1 playoff win entering his 12th season vs Penix who has had 4 season ending injuries in 6 years of college ,two of those injuries were class 3 ACL tears of the same knee. Don't see any upside here.
I’m just glad that the peculiarity of Cousins now belongs to another team. He’s an odd man, and he isn’t going to like this scenario. Hiring him for big bucks pre-injury would have made more sense, but even then, I would have celebrated his departure. Especially during the crucial first few games, the fans and the team might look more favorably on the youth and mobility of Penix. Cousins will need to come out blazing and arrest all doubts, but that’s not his jam, and especially not coming off a big injury.
Cousins is how old, and hasn't he been injured recently? Good pick
Penix is more injured than Kirk
This is a two year move … if both QBs are trash by year two … you bail on both for Arch Manning
Ya know. That last point from collin made it seem alot more reasonable about signing kirk
John’s the best!
Falcons couldn't have known they'd be sure to get Penix at 8.
Agreed, If Penix went before 8 Atlanta would drafted Latu, not Dallas turner. That who was on their draft board. They really liked Penix and for good reason. He was there at 8 and they scooped him up. I think it was a very smart move. Now the QB position has been solidified for years to come.
It is like buying insurance that you never cash it is the opposite of what you said.
Can we talk about how kirk finessed ATL for the Bag 😂😂😂
Stat Ryan did it for a decade.
@yzfool6639 factz but Stat Ryan also made it to a super bowl lol and kirk has played with multiple number 1 recievers lol yet on this roster they best receiver is London and he has yet to hit a 1000 yards lol how far yall expect kirk to take them lol🤣🤣
Not at all. They needed a guy and he was there
Basically he’s saying only do what everyone else would do
atlanta also expects to lose upcoming draft picks because of the Kirk Cousins tampering thing
Now he's changing his tune
The fact that they are still talking about this is funny. Falcons coach and GM not losing no sleep over yall
I can see the Patriots in the QB market next year
Gardner Minsew (even in the south) does not make you division champs. Bad take.
How do you say the falcons should have got Minshew and also say Denver is screwed cuz they have Minshew?
Sounds like Kirk was the QB insurance, not the other way around. They said 4 months ago let’s at least get Kirk now in case we don’t get our future QB in the draft.
0:57 why would the Jets take another QB when they just drafted Jordan Travis to sit behind Aaron Rodgers
You cant tell me penix was going to be the at 8!
I could see the issue with us getting Penix if this was pre 2009 where the QBs came in making top market dollar, but dude is making backup backup money. Only 1 team in the top 15 took a defender from this class. I mean gees it's pretty obvious it was insurance, planning ahead AND best player available
The bigger issue is that the young guy is a lefty
Russell Wilson effect I bet the broncos thought Russ was the answer and they didn’t need insurance too now 5 years wasted
Terry Fontenot sucks, the Falcons could have had Jamarr Chase instead of Pitts and they could have had Waddle or G Wilson instead of Bijan since they already had Tyler Algiers who rushed for a thousand the year before
Major gaff, panic move by ATL LOL. He's no longer Minnesota's fools gold...good for them.
The Falcons knew in November of 2023 they were gonna need a QB so Free Agency shouldn’t have included a High End QB
Will Levis Hits before Anthony Richardson and Bryce Young🥱
He will single handedly bring the wrath of the FCC down on Colin lol
Had no Qb last year Heineken was trash. He still need to be cut. Riddler was trash and was already traded. Falcons needed Qb the worst of any team. Morris said they were not finished with Qb after signing Cousins. How is this a surprise..they went to see Pennix and also flew him in during the pre draft process.
I think Atlanta played it right Cousins is a above average Qb that’s injury prone you have Penix sit back learn kinda what Rogers, Love did in GB and Mahomes in KC then in a couple of years you got Penix waiting to move in when necessary I wasn’t high on this class beyond Williams o line and WR this was not a good class overall imo
It makes more sense if you look at this as if Cousins signed a 2 year, $100M deal with the Falcons this offseason. That’s all that is guaranteed, $100M. They cut him year 3
How to destroy your salary cap & split your locker room in 1 pick.
Why would it split the locker room? If Kirk balls out, he will lead the team. If someone happens to Kirk (god forbid) then they have a decent quarterback to fall on. 🤡 like you are blowing this thing way out of proportion
I think Penix could still land with Raiders next off season
Belichik is prolly the greatest coach on the new era…but he’s over the hill. He wants way too much control to bring him in. When you have his former boss (Kraft) telling you about his negative experiences you heed that. And if he was so great, why is he not coaching another team right now? There were other openings even after the Falcons🤷🏽♂️
It's incredibly frustrating to be a Falcons fan.
The best way I heard someone put it is that the Falcons are more interested in not being mediocre than actually competing for a SB and that their pick showed that.
I heard this as well but I don’t see how solidifying the most important position means you aren’t trying to win?
@@jacobraby45 because giving a qb a 4 yr 180 mil contract when you have a bunch of pieces already on the team is a win now move. Selecting a qb at 8, who is not a project, not young and basically supposed to be NFL ready undercuts that whole win-now signing, especially when it is done within the same offseason/draft season.
You are negating the advantages of the Kirko deal while negating the benefits of the rookie contract for your #8 pick at qb.
You are essentially saying we are not willing to go all in with our 45 mil a year qb and will reach for our potential qb of the future who will be closer to 30 than 25 by the time he likely starts. The way it has been done screams of lack of confidence and just poor management of the situation.
I disagree. The team building on the offensive side of the ball has been in the works the last few off seasons with the selections of Pitts, London and Bijan plus Mooney this year. The defense was a top 15 unit last season with a major injury to Grady and they added to the defense in 5 of their 7 draft selections this year. The missing piece of this roster and biggest weakness was QB. Kirk should address that. Kirk was the final piece of going all in for the now while getting, what they believe, is an elite qb for the future, which is the hardest and most important part to get in the nfl. The only argument to be made for not going all in now is not going Odunze and if you think the roster as it stands now is not a contender, he wouldn’t be enough to make it one.
@@MrDemo-mr3tu by definition, taking a qb in the first round when you just signed your qb a few months ago is not going all in, it's edging your bets.
@@ugosmith7529 going all in is relative to how close a team is actually to competing for a Super Bowl. The Chiefs using a top 10 pick on Mahomes when Alex Smith got them to the playoffs the year before could be considered not going all in until you realize what they were trying to build.
Kirk cousins leaving the Vikings and in turn potentially screwing three franchises will be studied. There will be docs. That one move hurt the raiders, Vikings, falcons, and potentially the broncos.
Bro we ain't moving off levis we have literally hired a coach that's a qb guru and built a team around him.
😂 don't worry, you will soon
O'Connell can sling it now, don't sleep on the Boilermakers
I think yall mad we got him who don’t want the best back up welp yall could’ve had em now Atl gonan keep him! His 8th he will have a place in the city!
No they didn't Kirk Cousins go earn your money 💰
I get it pay the white guy 100 millions and still lousy as a team and going to get hurt this year now they have a qb that lost college champion in the last minute his passing is on point make it happen bro
and yet bill belicheck still doesn’t have a job! 😂
If Cousins is outplayed by Penix this year, you fire the GM for signing a $100MM backup QB that you can’t cut or trade for two years. What saves these two boobs is if their other picks hit, because they will absolutely have to hit for this team to have success with Atlanta’s current salary commitment to Cousins.
You fire the GM, fire the coach, draft sanders and make him player/head coach
1:19
Will Levis ain't going anywhere Colin.
I am not a fan of this player but ... Raiders should go and get Cam Newton.
Hands down I would take Penix talent & $$$ over Cousins talent & $$$$$$$$
People refuse to face elephant in the room. Blank made them sign Cousins , Front Office and coaches have seen Kirk is a bridge just a expensive one to appease owner. Front office plates their hand on draft. Kirk be gone in year maybe to raiders or another if they to low to draft a guy.
Blank signed off on drafting Penix ages ago. It just shows how disorganised the Falcons are. They have no plan.
Cousins will be there for at minimum 2 years. He has a no trade clause and if they cut him that quickly, it will put a heavy chunk in dead cap. Even cutting him in the 3rd year will leave a $25 million dead cap hit.
Y’all tripping, Oconnel will be MVP…
Y would we get Christian Wilkins when we have Onyemata n Jarrett, man it’s a reason y yall don’t own a team, that’s just talkin at this point
Aidan shows flashes of ability last season if his year 2 becomes solid I dont see raiders taking a QB
It's the mahomes affect. Kirk is the Alex Smith for penix. One year. Maybe 2. Jordan love played well too.
Bad comparison. Mahomes and love is younger. Also penix is older and injury prone
Mahomes sat Penix will sit unless Kirk gets hurt
Mahomes sat for 1 year, was younger. Penix will sit for 2-3 years, is older from the get-go and is injury prone.
Michigan broke Penix btw, just saying. Go Blue!
The Jordan Love/Michael Penix situations aren’t the exact same. Love was 21 when he was drafted, not 24. He was also a project QB, Penix is more of a ready now QB. Love was a late first rounder, not pick 8. That would be similar to GB having a top 10 pick in 2020 & drafting Tua or Herbert, which I highly doubt they would have done. Also, when Love was drafted, Rodgers had guaranteed money for 2 more seasons, not 4. Plus, Rodgers had been there is whole career. Kirk Cousins just got there. You were more certain what you were getting out of Rodgers, and if things faded quicker than expected, dead cap isn’t an issue. Sure, the end goal is the same: think for the future & continue to be a SB contender after the current QB is done, but there are enough differences to the point where you can’t really call someone a hypocrite if they were fine with/more understandable of the Love pick in 2020 & not a fan of the Penix pick.
100 %. This ties into what you were saying, but the Packers were perennial playoff contenders, so Love was somewhat of a luxury pick. The Falcons need to add more talent now to be a SB contender.. they can’t afford to have a blue-chip talent holding a clipboard for 2-3 years.
This is a silly point tho, love looks great but if you had a top 10 pick and want a qb for the future and you think Herbert is your guy then you draft Herbert. An elite quarterback is far more valuable than any other player on the field, I don’t care who he is, Lawrence Taylor, Jerry Rice, Deion Sanders, if you can draft a guy who you think will be top 8-10 for the next decade that’s way more important than anything else. Hell even a good back up is better than an elite skill player because if your starting qb misses 2-3 games in a season that could make or break your season and he the difference in you potentially winning a Super Bowl. Having Nick foles for that stretch Philly did in 2017 was far more valuable than having an elite player at any other position on the field besides qb
@@johnnycash8567 Why sign Cousins to a 180 million dollar contract though if you think Penix is that dude? Why waste Penix’s rookie deal?
Will Levis gets no love lol
You like that?!
That was way too much money for Cousins unless your team is just stacked. And if that’s the case then suppose Cousins gets injured and Penix comes in and pulls a C.J. Stroud. I guess all you’ve really done then is waste a lot of money and hamper your team payroll wise just to save your own ass/jobs. Doubt this GM has a lot of respect league wide right now after such a craven act. Atlanta owner must be getting senile to go along with this charade.
Raiders have top end talent?
Cousins gets a hondo $100 $$$ for nothing OR Penix doesn't start till he's 29 and arthritis is in. Typical Falcons 😂
Shut up Colin we're going to the playoffs and we have a QB....AOC4!
4th in the division what disrespected!!!!
Every team passed on Belichick. Every team passed on Lamar Jackson. Get off the Falcons nutsack
Cowherd is a goof
As usual, Cow-Pie barely above casual fan level---he's winning in the casual takes sweepstakes because he's only FULL OF SHIT 95% of time...
Relax bro
Barring cousins going down, penix is gonna be 29 before he sees the field, he should be the one PIECED OF not kirk
They ain’t make it weird yall making it weird with all this bs