LNWR/WMR's aim is for the fleet to be as "universal" as possible - i.e. the sets will have a "home" depot and "home" routes, but they can go and work diagrams in different areas if needed, e.g. to cover maintenance of other sets, or if needed for additional capacity elsewhere. So if anything bad happens, then chances are, you've still got rolling stock, route-cleared to go where you need it and a driver that is signed to drive it where it is needed. This should hopefully improve reliability and reduce the risk of cancellations, so a good thing for everyone.
Hopefully they won't need to put the WMR sets on the London-Crewe or London- Birmingham routes then since they can only do 90mph. Not sure why they didn't give both types the same operating speed.
Firstly WMR is the owning company of LNWR and they won't be universal as these sets are for the Birmingham intensive Cross City Line and other electrified services in the West Midlands hense being labeled up for West Midlands Trains with the West Midlands County Transport badge on them
Great vlog Nick. Great to see the Class 730s entering service. At some point these new trains will serve my local station Rugby well at least the London northwestern ones and not these West Midlands Railway ones lol.
They pushed to get the WMR 730s out to replace the 319s as they need replacing more than the 323s on the cross city line. Theres a lot of swapping in WMR/LNWR. some of the LNWR trains say this on the side that they get swapped around. sometimes WMR uses a 350 for the birmingham international shuttle. The 5 car 730s are still undergoing testing as the 3 car was ordered earlier and with them being 2 cars shorter, they are quicker off the lot.
The reason for this is that West Midlands Trains own and run London Northwestern trains and on a lot on LNWR trains it actually states London Northwestern operated by West Midlands Trains, but the confusing bit is that in the West Midlands the trains are labelled up as West Midlands Railways
The Stadler FLIRTs on Greater Anglia show similar info about toilet and seat occupancy which is pretty nice, they’ve worn in well after their first 3 years or so
0:12 Well thankfully for you, I'm not sane nor a regular person hahaha And yes, I do believe that they are for Walsall-Wolverhampton next, went WMT did which was rather genius on their part (not words I would say often about them), because they put the 350/2s on dedicated diagrams so when the 730s come into service up here, they just simply pluck a 350/2 diagram and replace it with a 730 The same will happen with the 730/1s when they come into service, hopefully
As there is the Bletchley Park Museum very close to the railway station where they broke the German codes in WW2 and developed the programmable computer which might be a use for 4 hours in Bletchley LOL
Brilliant video of the class 730's Nick, you must be mad being at Bletchley really early in the morning lol. The 730's look like good trains, I'll be trying them out when they enter service in the west Midlands. :)
Well done for making it to Bletchley in time for the first train 👍 Good to see them finally in service, as I think the 319s were long overdue a one way trip to the scrappers
No these trains are running because the LNWR ones are apparently not ready yet but WMR own LNWR and operate their services in a green livery with London Northwestern on the side
British rail companies introduce as many trains as possible before Northern even considers thinking about retiring the Class 150 challenge (they have forever)
Heres a idea for a pointless journey, Colchester to colchester (town)/Hythe Colchester, as if you buy a ticket from whereether to colchester any, this means you can get to colchester north, colchester town and hythe (colchester)
You were on the same train as me this morning then! I understand that there are 730/0 in 3 car formations and the 730/2 in 5 car formations for longer distance services. I guess these are more focused on the West Midlands routes. Also you might know more, was this launch brought forward? I know there has been some availability issues on the 319s of late.
I think the original plan was these units would stay on the West Midlands services, but they’re temporarily being used to replace those 319s, since the lease on those is running out and they want them gone as soon as possible
1:10 What's going on is that the poor deprived Londoners couldn't possibly wait for their shiny new trains to be ready, so they pinched our shiny new trains until theirs are done.
Getting the expertise back is doubtful. We are in the process of shutting down the last two blast furnaces in Britain. Nobody gives a thought as to how we can just go on buying stuff from abroad without producing anything of value ourselves.
These 730s are for replacing 350/2s and 323s, there are 5 coach 730s for supplementing 350/1s /3s and /4s on services out of Euston which will allow LNWR to get rid of the 319s
@@The_Grand_Autismo1 the temporary introduction of the 3 car ones on WCML services currently to get rid of the 319s cause they are absolutely knackered, 5 car 730s will displace them once they become available for service
I do understand why that the Class 730 are replacing the Class 323 and Class 319. But London Northwestern Railway should keep the Class 350/2 Desiro or will they be moving for storage?
I should think so too. Except the Class 319s are going for scrap unless they are to be saved and to be converted to Class 768 Orion logistics units or Class 769 for Northern as extra units.
@@Anonymoususer_2023Yes They'll Be In Storage For Now But Porterbrook The Leasing Company Has Considered Using The 350/2s On Batteries Reducing The Need For Electrified Routes With Overhead Wires The Same Thing Has Also Been Said About The Class 379s
I think, from the time I first saw it in the early nineties, the railways of London has been steadily moving from an old, lovable, quirky system with terrible trains, to an ultra-modern, very efficient, but, in many parts, slightly boring, high quality network.
It’s a brand new train that West Midlands Trains have ordered for West Midlands Railway and London Northwestern Railway to replace the existing older electric trains.
LNWR/WMR's aim is for the fleet to be as "universal" as possible - i.e. the sets will have a "home" depot and "home" routes, but they can go and work diagrams in different areas if needed, e.g. to cover maintenance of other sets, or if needed for additional capacity elsewhere. So if anything bad happens, then chances are, you've still got rolling stock, route-cleared to go where you need it and a driver that is signed to drive it where it is needed. This should hopefully improve reliability and reduce the risk of cancellations, so a good thing for everyone.
Hopefully they won't need to put the WMR sets on the London-Crewe or London- Birmingham routes then since they can only do 90mph. Not sure why they didn't give both types the same operating speed.
@@nathanw9770Unfortunately, stoppers need acceleration, and fasts need top speed, and it's hard to get both in one train.
Firstly WMR is the owning company of LNWR and they won't be universal as these sets are for the Birmingham intensive Cross City Line and other electrified services in the West Midlands hense being labeled up for West Midlands Trains with the West Midlands County Transport badge on them
These are the best looking trains in the UK! All we need is level boarding and it would've been perfect!
"I'm in Bletchley. At half past 5 in the morning."
Ah, good Sir. I see you, too, like to live dangerously!
nice video, Nick! They're using the West Midlands Railway ones because the LNWR ones arent ready yet is what I've heard!
That makes sense
And the priority is to replace the 319s on the London Northwestern route before the 323s in WM
These are looking like nice trains! Hope I can try one out at some point!
Excellent video! Thanks for having us on (albeit briefly)! ~ Daniel
Many a time at 0530 in Bletchley coming out of Pink Punters in Fenny Stratford
Great vlog Nick. Great to see the Class 730s entering service. At some point these new trains will serve my local station Rugby well at least the London northwestern ones and not these West Midlands Railway ones lol.
Great video Nick, it was a pleasure to meet you in the Lincoln train yesterday
You too!
Thanks for the video Nick! The Class 730's look pretty nice! Hoping to take a ride on them soon!
They pushed to get the WMR 730s out to replace the 319s as they need replacing more than the 323s on the cross city line. Theres a lot of swapping in WMR/LNWR. some of the LNWR trains say this on the side that they get swapped around. sometimes WMR uses a 350 for the birmingham international shuttle. The 5 car 730s are still undergoing testing as the 3 car was ordered earlier and with them being 2 cars shorter, they are quicker off the lot.
The 323s are shagged
There should be enough 730 /0 in the future that they won’t need any 350s on WMR services
The reason for this is that West Midlands Trains own and run London Northwestern trains and on a lot on LNWR trains it actually states London Northwestern operated by West Midlands Trains, but the confusing bit is that in the West Midlands the trains are labelled up as West Midlands Railways
@davepearson3992 still the most reliable fleet on the line!
The 730/0 can only go with 90mph while the duck livery /2 can go with 110
Nice one Nick!! They do look like nice trains and I wish live capacity indication was more common across the network
We are left with the 701, which is older than the 730 but is testing
Good to see you on this day Nick, although i do slightly regret staying in Bletchley station overnight for 4 hours! 😂
nice looking train, shame the yellow front isnt required any more though
I'm quite glad about it.
It does mean more variety but idk I just found them charming. Hopefully some operators will continue it as an aesthetic choice.
@@blazikem I think it's less due to the yellow ends and more the specific character of BREL and other nationalised-era production.
4:20 as a Watford resident, I get you...😂😂😂
Great video Nick and also nice to meet up with you for this trip.
Great!
NOW I WANT MY 701
ITS ABOUT DAMN TIME!! 3 years I’ve been waiting for this bad boy ❤️❤️
Nicking Jen's coffee should be a capital offence \m/
They look good. Very spacious.
I was glad to go on the first one, I went from Leighton Buzzard to Hemel Hempstead, and I personally loved em 😍
2:15 Oh wow… a table seat where I can sit with my laptop and not have the sun in my eyes! That's a wonderful invention, I wonder if they patented it…
Rest in piece class 319s I hope you get saved :(
769?
Nice one! I am looking forward to doing a Review on one they look very nice!
brilliant review of the WMR class 730s
730020 was in Liverpool lime street the other day on a test run they look so good.
Annoyed I missed this. I currently live in Bletchley on my canal boat 😂 not to worry, I can get the one coming back 😃
great video nick especially at that time!
The Stadler FLIRTs on Greater Anglia show similar info about toilet and seat occupancy which is pretty nice, they’ve worn in well after their first 3 years or so
If I recall correctly, the 700s used by Thameslink do that as well.
@@DitzyNizzy2009They do indeed
0:12 Well thankfully for you, I'm not sane nor a regular person hahaha
And yes, I do believe that they are for Walsall-Wolverhampton next, went WMT did which was rather genius on their part (not words I would say often about them), because they put the 350/2s on dedicated diagrams so when the 730s come into service up here, they just simply pluck a 350/2 diagram and replace it with a 730
The same will happen with the 730/1s when they come into service, hopefully
Brilliant video!
As there is the Bletchley Park Museum
very close to the railway station
where they broke the German codes in WW2
and developed the programmable computer
which might be a use for 4 hours in Bletchley LOL
1:32 I didn't know Nick had a clone.
Finally the class 730 is in service
Yea BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Great Video 👍
Great video!
Hope they have better ride quality than the 331 and also having a through gangway is better when coupled together.
Brilliant video of the class 730's Nick, you must be mad being at Bletchley really early in the morning lol. The 730's look like good trains, I'll be trying them out when they enter service in the west Midlands. :)
It supposed to have been running in the West Midlands hence the livery but as usual we are 2nd class while London gets everything
It’s to get rid of the 319s as soon as possible. This wasn’t the original plan
They are same franchise
the class 319s will be replace soon and a farewell
Well done for making it to Bletchley in time for the first train 👍
Good to see them finally in service, as I think the 319s were long overdue a one way trip to the scrappers
Great video Xx
Looking good!
I've seen one at Lime Street. Got good photos of it
Hey nick ur the best guy ever thanks for good videos
ima say one thing: about fucking time
About time 😂
The Lnwr is going to use the 730/2 , while wmt is going to use the 730/0
On 13th Feb they are on the wolverhampton to Walsall route
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You are insane ! 05:30 am is way too early
Wish LNWR/WMR had luggage racks on the trains
The /2 version meant for these services should have them
Great video as usual Nick!
I can’t wait to never see the class 701 enter service
I can’t wait as well. SWR had issues with the Class 701s.
You do great doing your blogs. ❤❤❤
I’d managed to ride one of these today, from Euston to Harrow & Wealdstone. TfL charged me two maximum fares though…
WMR extended their trains to run from London Euston to Tring
No these trains are running because the LNWR ones are apparently not ready yet but WMR own LNWR and operate their services in a green livery with London Northwestern on the side
Brilliant! Unfortunately in my Euston video, I didn’t see any class 730’s you should check me out!❤
I thought it was ages ato
How exiting a new Nick Badley Video
The reason it’s a West Midlands livery train is because they use the similar ones that run from Shrewsbury to Birmingham new street
These wont run Shrewsbury to Birmingham which is not electrified which these units are, it is just the livery that is the same
Right
British rail companies introduce as many trains as possible before Northern even considers thinking about retiring the Class 150 challenge (they have forever)
The class 700 tells you how busy the train is and stuff
Rest in potato’s class 319
james bond 007!
When are they gonna bring the green livery?
so, Jen's coffee was badly nicked by Nick Badley?
Heres a idea for a pointless journey, Colchester to colchester (town)/Hythe Colchester, as if you buy a ticket from whereether to colchester any, this means you can get to colchester north, colchester town and hythe (colchester)
Nick I have seen this service at bushey and it use to always be a 319
Nick how about doing the geoguesser thing again but this time do the whole round the order can be whatever works the best
I'm a bit surprised there was any room for commuters on the train as it seemed to have almost all the railway vloggers in the known universe aboard...
I live 5 mins away
We're getting table seats on the Cross City line? Didn't expect that!
Its so funny watching people struggle to fit in a seat in a brand new train.
One quick query why is the new train have the SPT Glasgow subway mouquette and livery?
Is the West Midlands Railway Livery
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Midlands_Trains
You were on the same train as me this morning then! I understand that there are 730/0 in 3 car formations and the 730/2 in 5 car formations for longer distance services. I guess these are more focused on the West Midlands routes. Also you might know more, was this launch brought forward? I know there has been some availability issues on the 319s of late.
I think the original plan was these units would stay on the West Midlands services, but they’re temporarily being used to replace those 319s, since the lease on those is running out and they want them gone as soon as possible
1:10 What's going on is that the poor deprived Londoners couldn't possibly wait for their shiny new trains to be ready, so they pinched our shiny new trains until theirs are done.
They are lovely trains but it is a little sad seeing all the BR trains phasing out. Hopefully one day we can regain that expertise we once had
Getting the expertise back is doubtful. We are in the process of shutting down the last two blast furnaces in Britain. Nobody gives a thought as to how we can just go on buying stuff from abroad without producing anything of value ourselves.
northerns fleet is mainly sprinters (and doubt they're going anywhere anytime soon)
Such a pain that they released this while people had school and work.
Is stadler just making all new British light rail trains?
These are Bombardier (now Alstom) units
Does anyone know if the Northern 319s are going to be replaced any time soon??
They're absolutely filthy!
northern dont have 319s anymore they're gone and being replaced with the 323s from the Cross City Line
@@LemoncloudGT i know... I asked that question 7 months ago.
London Northwestern Railway should also introduce the new Class 730/2 Aventra in service as its to replace the Class 319 and Class 350/2 Desiro.
I’m also hoping that Geoff Marshall will also be doing a video of the new Class 730.
These 730s are for replacing 350/2s and 323s, there are 5 coach 730s for supplementing 350/1s /3s and /4s on services out of Euston which will allow LNWR to get rid of the 319s
You’ll just have to wait and see.
@@The_Grand_Autismo1 the temporary introduction of the 3 car ones on WCML services currently to get rid of the 319s cause they are absolutely knackered, 5 car 730s will displace them once they become available for service
@@james123212 forgot to mention that bit but yeah I can imagine the 319s are very tired
Where's your lovely companion? - - Perhaps they used the East Mid's because the LNWR wouldn't start? 🙂
Which companion are you meaning? 😂
@@InkItOut - His attractive shadow, of course!
They are West Midlands Trains not East Midlands, big difference
Does this mean the end for the 323s?
They are coming to join their sisters in Manchester where there have been plenty since they were first built.
the 323s r going to Northern
Great, no more 323s in the West Midlands :(
At least they're going to Northern so that's good
Are these replacing the 350s?
I believe they are planned to replace 350/2s, also the 319s and 323s
What Nick just said.
Are the front gangway doors ever really used in service? So many classes have them but they never seem to be coupled up
It sounds like these will often run as 6 car sets
Are these operating driver only
I do understand why that the Class 730 are replacing the Class 323 and Class 319.
But London Northwestern Railway should keep the Class 350/2 Desiro or will they be moving for storage?
They will be going for storage
I should think so too. Except the Class 319s are going for scrap unless they are to be saved and to be converted to Class 768 Orion logistics units or Class 769 for Northern as extra units.
Are 350 getting replaced?
Only Class 350/2s that are being replaced and to be moved for storage.
@@Anonymoususer_2023Yes They'll Be In Storage For Now But Porterbrook The Leasing Company Has Considered Using The 350/2s On Batteries Reducing The Need For Electrified Routes With Overhead Wires The
Same Thing Has Also Been Said About The Class 379s
Did it have that "New Train Smell"?
I’d been on a 730 today and amazingly I didn’t notice it (at least not in the same way as with the GA and c2c 710s when they first came out).
I think, from the time I first saw it in the early nineties, the railways of London has been steadily moving from an old, lovable, quirky system with terrible trains, to an ultra-modern, very efficient, but, in many parts, slightly boring, high quality network.
What’s a 730?
Class 730 train
@@epislog178Oh thank you
@@ron.does.stuff.No Problem!
It’s a brand new train that West Midlands Trains have ordered for West Midlands Railway and London Northwestern Railway to replace the existing older electric trains.
And to replace the Class 323,
Class 319 and Class 350/2.
nice video, shame about the ghastly person wearing a face covering.