"YOU SHOULD'NT WANT TO BRING SOCIETY DOWN!" Simon Jordan SLAMS Jim White for bashing England fans

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  • Simon Jordan SLAMS Jim White for bashing England fans
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  • @MHarvs100
    @MHarvs100 Před 2 lety +112

    Jim asking with a straight face why newspapers have the headlines they do.. The media absolutely love what’s happened, they have lapped it up and can’t wait for seconds.

  • @adieeddie4786
    @adieeddie4786 Před 2 lety +98

    Jim always here to defend media hysteria. Thank goodness Simon is a balancing act

    • @cheddarbob1998
      @cheddarbob1998 Před 2 lety +5

      Jim White is all about the headlines. If England won on Sunday, would the media even make this a big deal? I highly doubt it.

  • @terrytaylor1394
    @terrytaylor1394 Před 2 lety +47

    Simon has real world common sense. Not much use in media these days.

  • @jamesfoley4832
    @jamesfoley4832 Před 2 lety +31

    For a sports journalist. Jim White has no understanding of any aspect of it. Thank the Lord for Simon Jordan.

  • @Mike-cd4qg
    @Mike-cd4qg Před 2 lety +52

    The idea that England shouldn't get the world cup because of this is baseless given Qatar's winning bid.

    • @gomperhooblet
      @gomperhooblet Před 2 lety +11

      Qatar: Pays the bills
      England: Fans break in without paying for tickets
      Guess who the prefer

    • @C2190
      @C2190 Před 2 lety +7

      i prefer Qatar atleast they won’t behave like the hooligan fans like the english are and if they did they’d get beat or even be put in jail.

    • @mackenzie8486
      @mackenzie8486 Před 2 lety

      @UCWb3CiURDb8dMeFfYz7rkKA that’s there culture

    • @danielquinn3659
      @danielquinn3659 Před 2 lety +4

      @@C2190 I think he was going on about how corrupt the winning bill was, the human rights record in the country, the working conditions and safety record of the foreign labour that are massively under paid.

    • @gomperhooblet
      @gomperhooblet Před 2 lety +3

      @@C2190 yes the corpses will be swept under the carpet so you won't have to see them :)

  • @amberpuga7322
    @amberpuga7322 Před 2 lety +11

    Playing the match at 8 pm at night when supporters spent the whole day drinking. This match should have been played at noon, which might have saved some of this heartache.

  • @Tommy.Walker
    @Tommy.Walker Před 2 lety +38

    Jordan talks so much sense.

  • @jm2aa217
    @jm2aa217 Před 2 lety +51

    Simon Jordan bang on the money as usual 🙏🏻

    • @daireoreilly2548
      @daireoreilly2548 Před 2 lety +4

      He’s acc definitely not on the money. It’s easy to say that it’s a few bad eggs. It was a few bad eggs this year, a few bad eggs in Russia, and in France etc. If the Russian hooligans do anything it’s indicative of their country and their culture. If the Hungarian fans shout homophobic chants their country is homophobic and disgusting, but when it’s English fans it’s a few bad eggs. You can only have so many bad eggs. Literally no other country in world football have excused should horrendous scenes minority or not.

    • @1purpose482
      @1purpose482 Před 2 lety +1

      Lol denial

    • @kentt5956
      @kentt5956 Před 2 lety

      Well done Simon 👍

    • @jm2aa217
      @jm2aa217 Před 2 lety +1

      @@daireoreilly2548 mate some people are c*nts. Such is life. Tarring the majority when it’s a minority is ridiculous

  • @dontworry1031
    @dontworry1031 Před 2 lety +15

    Jim is actually becoming unbearable lol

    • @MG-hi9sh
      @MG-hi9sh Před 2 lety +2

      Becoming? He was always unbearable, it's his natural character.

    • @senzokai3156
      @senzokai3156 Před 2 lety

      Jim White talks like a condescending tool, with no logical points to back any stance he has besides blind conformity, when any point that doesn't suit his stance is made.

  • @burkley9121
    @burkley9121 Před 2 lety +52

    Jim white saying he'll be balanced🤣

    • @ktom5262
      @ktom5262 Před 2 lety +1

      Simon is way out of whack here, not Jim. There were awful hooligans in English football decades ago, who caused the Brussels tragedy in 1985, and there are such hooligans now. Little has changed. Let's not forget that London is a now city where you get get knifed to death in a street in the middle of the day.

    • @joba4848
      @joba4848 Před 2 lety +1

      @k Tom
      True, you are at risk of getting knifed in London on a daily basis. However, the media tries their best to brush this under the carpet, because those doing the vast proportion of the stabbing, aren’t the white English supporters who behaved so awfully on Sunday. Knife violence is the biggest issue regarding crime in London, and Khan has yet to do anything about it.

    • @burkley9121
      @burkley9121 Před 2 lety +1

      The point is there is no balance in what Jim is saying. At all. They are a loud aggressive minority of the fan base and the country, Grouping the majority in with the minority of thugs does no one any good. They need to be a separate entity in and of themselves.

    • @willcroot5528
      @willcroot5528 Před 2 lety +3

      @@ktom5262 Qatar is literally hosting the next world cup. Look at some of their laws and rights

    • @ktom5262
      @ktom5262 Před 2 lety

      @@willcroot5528 Qatar choice was an abomination by corrupt FIFA officials, who no doubt received very handsome bribes for that.

  • @ryanoneill7543
    @ryanoneill7543 Před 2 lety +18

    Ha! Simon is on a different level to Jim! Jims the type of person that won't question anything! What a sad act!!

    • @malcolmjones6010
      @malcolmjones6010 Před 2 lety +4

      Jim is an absolute clown ! He's just there to stir the pot. Quite pathetic really. Again not prepared to listen. Why don't they replace him with say...a loaf of bread ?

    • @MG-hi9sh
      @MG-hi9sh Před 2 lety

      @@malcolmjones6010 He seems like a media puppet to me, talkSPORT must put him up to this. He surely can't believe half of what he's saying, right? He just tries and fails to make the show interesting by taking the opposite side it seems, it probably somehow gets more views and thus higher wages for him. It's sad really.

  • @imagiro1234
    @imagiro1234 Před 2 lety +7

    Simon Jordan has changed his tune when it was United fans. Hypocrite

  • @CalSaurous
    @CalSaurous Před 2 lety +11

    I don't like England because of pundits like Lineker and Neville, but how can you not give them the World Cup but give it to Qatar? It's not about morals or behaviour, it's about money and nothing more.

    • @dendenn7383
      @dendenn7383 Před 2 lety +1

      What have Neville and Lineker done that is so bad that you hate England just because of them?

    • @CalSaurous
      @CalSaurous Před 2 lety +5

      @@dendenn7383 not hate England, just don't like the national team. Gary Neville's a big nosed idiot trying to play politician, and Lineker's the same but with big ears. Every year they sprout the most bs about how England have the best team, and then they judge foreign players for diving when Kane and Sterling did it more than anyone. The English media and its pundits - commentators such as Jenas - are just awful.

    • @sharingiscaring1952
      @sharingiscaring1952 Před 2 lety

      @@CalSaurous So you hate them for having big ears and big noses. And the fact they love their country and unconditionally support them? I honestly think Britain or the UK shouldn't share broadcasting. All it does is breed hatred, especially when people watch England.

    • @ronmastrio2798
      @ronmastrio2798 Před 2 lety +2

      @@sharingiscaring1952 Not really I'm English and I hate those two as well Lineker is a virtue signalling tosspot and Gary Neville is a massive hypocrite he talks about fit and proper owners all the time and he's business partners with Peter Lim the guy currently asset stripping and running Valencia into the ground.

  • @Ben-xe7hm
    @Ben-xe7hm Před 2 lety +18

    Jim again sucking up to the media- I was there for a few games and it was brilliant! No dramas whatsoever

  • @yiannistsioukanis1307
    @yiannistsioukanis1307 Před 2 lety +21

    Here we see the difference between a journalist and a businessman...Jim White you continue to throw more & more3 shame onto the profession of journalism...its all about sensationalism to the media people...they have lost all concept of reality...SJ talks total sense & if we just did what he's pointing out we would be always better off

  • @davidsummer8631
    @davidsummer8631 Před 2 lety +28

    Taking a moral view about how you get awarded the World Cup is ridiculous, because being awarded the World Cup comes down to one factor..Money

    • @greatestanalyser2354
      @greatestanalyser2354 Před 2 lety +1

      Facts

    • @rohitbhatachaarya7080
      @rohitbhatachaarya7080 Před 2 lety +1

      That is presently the harsh reality, but that shouldn’t be the case, right? As football fans, shouldn’t we use our voices to bring these issues to the forefront, so that the decision makers award hosting rights on metrics more substantial than just money? Lest we have already accepted that our sport is corrupt and unfixable.

    • @davidsummer8631
      @davidsummer8631 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rohitbhatachaarya7080 Problem is the biggest game of earth is played by many poor countries so the reality is the list of countries who could afford and would want to host the World Cup is much shorter than those who could not afforded or would not want to host it

    • @PlatefulVerse
      @PlatefulVerse Před 10 měsíci

      @davidsummer8631 rubbish England fans will always stay sore losers when it comes to missing out on hosting a World Cup. Use your brain why do you think they pulled out of the bid for the 2030 World Cup after all, and went for the 2028 Euros instead because we are scared of competition

  • @Tonythomas19
    @Tonythomas19 Před 2 lety +30

    Simon is bang on again

  • @SS-lx7ps
    @SS-lx7ps Před 2 lety +83

    Well said Simon Jordan. Enough self hating, virtue signalling rubbish please.
    Yes there are moronic fans, how about we concentrate on the absolute overall majority that watched it without issue.

    • @BillyHayes79Music
      @BillyHayes79Music Před 2 lety

      Nothing wrong with being ashamed of your own people when they behave like that and make us look like savages. We expect other groups to weed out the c***s among them. We need to do this also. Vermin

    • @robertstitches9517
      @robertstitches9517 Před 2 lety +10

      So.... ignore the skin head style fandom, let them get away with it sure!
      Brilliant plan

    • @SS-lx7ps
      @SS-lx7ps Před 2 lety +12

      @@robertstitches9517 Let them get away with what? If anyone commits a crime they should be punished by the relevant authorities. I don't really care to know about it though.

    • @El_terrible1985
      @El_terrible1985 Před 2 lety +7

      @@SS-lx7ps horrible horrible nation of knackers. Ruin everything in sight cause yous can handle your drink. That is why the world hates yous

    • @SS-lx7ps
      @SS-lx7ps Před 2 lety +4

      @@El_terrible1985 Tell that to the huge numbers across the world that would give an arm and a leg to live there.

  • @cheekynandos5056
    @cheekynandos5056 Před 2 lety +36

    Simon is excellent at pouring cold water on media hysteria. Small section of the fan base acted reprehensibly no doubt. But let’s not make out England has a monopoly on thuggish behaviour.
    Policing and stadium security were woefully underprepared.

    • @johnson2joy
      @johnson2joy Před 2 lety

      I agree with Simon, but regrettably the policing and stadium security was under prepared because many of the people who invaded the stadium saw it as an action of a lifetime, they gambled that they might never ever experience an event like that again and if England had won....in their minds it would have been worth it! I am still upset because it was an opportunity!

    • @davidburke7777
      @davidburke7777 Před 2 lety +8

      Mate England football supporters are notorious all over the world for causing trouble.

    • @davidburke7777
      @davidburke7777 Před 2 lety +6

      @Meatloaf I'm 32 years old pal and in that time I've never seen a football tournament with England involved that didn't involve some sort of trouble. Never heard the same for any of the other home nations or English Rugby supporters.

    • @daireoreilly2548
      @daireoreilly2548 Před 2 lety +2

      He’s acc definitely not. It’s easy to say that it’s a few bad eggs. It was a few bad eggs this year, a few bad eggs in Russia, and in France etc. If the Russian hooligans do anything it’s indicative of their country and their culture. If the Hungarian fans shout homophobic chants their country is homophobic and disgusting, but when it’s English fans it’s a few bad eggs. You can only have so many bad eggs. Literally no other country in world football have excused should horrendous scenes minority or not.

    • @robertpirsig5011
      @robertpirsig5011 Před 2 lety +2

      Media hysteria? You do realise most of Europe wanted an Italian win because a large cohort of England's fans are so poorly motivated. Booing national anthems, smashing bottles and cans all over the place, shining lasers in players eyes.Sure bad behavior happens everywhere but to a far greater extent in England. You really need to go to an neutral away European game between two other countrys and see the difference. It's night and day. I like Jordan but so many are burying their heads in the sand about the issue.

  • @MattLloydShredder
    @MattLloydShredder Před 2 lety +18

    Spot on Simon Jordan, as always.

  • @me4374
    @me4374 Před 2 lety +28

    Jim loves ramping it up against England fans
    He loves highlighting this and bringing our society down. He’s so biased and unbalanced

    • @daireoreilly2548
      @daireoreilly2548 Před 2 lety +2

      He’s acc on the money here tho. It’s easy to say that it’s a few bad eggs. It was a few bad eggs this year, a few bad eggs in Russia, and in France etc. If the Russian hooligans do anything it’s indicative of their country and their culture. If the Hungarian fans shout homophobic chants their country is homophobic and disgusting, but when it’s English fans it’s a few bad eggs. You can only have so many bad eggs. Literally no other country in world football have excused should horrendous scenes minority or not.

    • @matherspad
      @matherspad Před 2 lety +6

      Hes left wing, snowflake.

    • @deaddogtony1677
      @deaddogtony1677 Před 2 lety +4

      He is so biased it’s unbelievable, Simon made a valid point, how can you say we shouldn’t get the World Cup in 2030 when in a years time the World Cup will be held in a barbaric hell hole. All that needs to happen is security needs to be ramped up. The fact that he kept exaggerating about the GIANT METAL DOOR THE FANS SMASHED THROUGH just shows he’s trying to sensationalise it and push the agenda that these hooligans are the norm and it’s completely uncontrollable

    • @jayb2175
      @jayb2175 Před 2 lety +1

      @@daireoreilly2548 this obsessed Irish copying and pasting his comment again my days you are obsessed with us 🤦‍♂️

    • @georgiedalton4790
      @georgiedalton4790 Před 2 lety +1

      @@matherspad So far gone! Makes me sick London is full of em 🤧

  • @carlsmith3818
    @carlsmith3818 Před 2 lety +6

    Simon puts across a very fair point, explaining his opinions well. Jim white can’t do that, he seems to have massive media bias. It’s all about headlines, hits, likes and shares for the media which Jim either doesn’t see or refuses to.
    Think about this, if England had won, would the headline have been about the break in or about England winning the Euros? Where would the thugs have been then, probably around 8-10 pages into the paper with a small column. would anyone have cared, nope, and if they do are they in a position to do anything about it, nope. Leave this sensationalist stuff to the red tops and talk about sport on talk sport that’s what people are here for.

    • @joba4848
      @joba4848 Před 2 lety

      @Carl Smith
      I agree. For days leading up to the semi-final and final, TalkSPORT was full of nationalistic nonsense. They played ‘Its Coming Home’ about a thousand times a day. They helped to create the nationalist passion that bubbled over on Sunday, and now they’re acting as if they are morally outraged by the thing they helped create. Listening to those idiots Darren Gough and Adrian Durham yesterday was awful.

    • @catman2484
      @catman2484 Před 2 lety

      Very well said

  • @kjd9634
    @kjd9634 Před 2 lety +7

    100% agree with Simon.

  • @hive71recordinz89
    @hive71recordinz89 Před 2 lety +13

    Booing through the whole game was annoying too, we are a joke, and dont deserve and hope we dont get the WC here, it will be the most embarrassing WC of all time, people are disgusted and we are a let down, it's a game and this game unfortunately, attracts total idoits and nothing ever get done ramp it up cause his talking crap sorry

    • @derekverlander3511
      @derekverlander3511 Před 2 lety

      Agree with you Hive this trend of booing the opposition is childish and not done by Football lovers.
      A good game is between two good teams. I would love to have been at Anfield to see Messi play but
      turned the television off due to all the booing.

    • @hive71recordinz89
      @hive71recordinz89 Před 2 lety

      @@derekverlander3511 exactly, most want to enjoy the game, it's a final, its supposed to be a battle, yes, but skillfully played football not a booing contest,

    • @gomperhooblet
      @gomperhooblet Před 2 lety

      Football is a performance, a pantomime element has to be there
      Part of the fun for some.
      Booing national anthems can do one though

    • @hive71recordinz89
      @hive71recordinz89 Před 2 lety

      Unfortunately football isn't a pantomime, these are also real haters, not all the booing is fun driven like a pantomime

  • @stevenolove
    @stevenolove Před 2 lety +13

    Long live Simon

  • @BigALBoomer
    @BigALBoomer Před 2 lety +11

    Ahhh yes "The Times" truly the paper of the British people

  • @LL-cf5hv
    @LL-cf5hv Před 2 lety +7

    It’s not all England fans simon is correct but he loses credibility when he says it shouldn’t be highlighted of course it should

    • @MohammedShafiq-id5ov
      @MohammedShafiq-id5ov Před 2 lety

      Agree it's not all english fans but unless there is a coordinated effective response by all football authorities this will not change why cant there be affective security once troublemakers are identified they should be thrown out the stadium there and then even if that means the game is delayed they should be handed a fine with a notice to attend a hearing at court if these measures are not taken this minority of fans will always be a pain can you imagine having to pay and then sit on the steps on the stands because some yobs have taken your seat can you imagine the fear on children faces seeing the anti social behaviour it is a disgrace

    • @victorfernandes2111
      @victorfernandes2111 Před 2 lety

      Well said I mean how can we fix something we don’t even admit it’s broken or was broken this stuff of living in denial being on the defensive won’t really work I am Portuguese and I truly love the UK and the british people amazing but honestly when Chelsea played city in Porto it was embarrassing All they did was fight and break stuff not all of the supporters off course but those that did so did a lot of damage.

  • @CraigCairney83
    @CraigCairney83 Před 2 lety +18

    Once again I’m in agreement with Simon. Spot on sir!!

    • @daireoreilly2548
      @daireoreilly2548 Před 2 lety +3

      He’s acc definitely not spot on. It’s easy to say that it’s a few bad eggs. It was a few bad eggs this year, a few bad eggs in Russia, and in France etc. If the Russian hooligans do anything they’re a disgrace coming from a sick country. If the Hungarian fans shout homophobic chants their country is homophobic and disgusting, but when it’s English fans it’s a few bad eggs. You can only have so many bad eggs. Literally no other country in world football have excused should horrendous scenes minority or not.

  • @killacure
    @killacure Před 2 lety +9

    Italian and German fans did worse at Arsenal in recent years, I was their to attest

    • @killacure
      @killacure Před 2 lety +6

      @@cold_servo_pie yes they did Fc Koln and Napoli. I was there

  • @standarsh4275
    @standarsh4275 Před 2 lety +13

    Simon Jordon is spot on

  • @AM.10
    @AM.10 Před 2 lety +9

    England should not be rewarded for bad behaviour .

    • @LeeTAZ-sl7de
      @LeeTAZ-sl7de Před 2 lety

      You cant judge a whole nation on a minute amount of people. When United played Roma around 10 years ago United fans were attacked, a few were hospitalised, these fans wernt hooligans they were there to enjoy a match. A few years later Roma were given the CL final. These hooligans only do things because theres no blame put on them, we blame a whole country not them. Take Russia during the 2016 Euros, Russian ultras attacked English families, not rival thugs but innocent fans, did Russia lose the 2018 World Cup. No because rightfully the actions of a few idiots shouldnt be a baring on the rest of the country who's fans want to enjoy football.

  • @jerseypeter6644
    @jerseypeter6644 Před 2 lety +3

    Brilliant debates whichever side you're on. Could you imagine this on the BBC, Lineker v Shearer? These are conversations that need to be had and are being had nowhere else in the media.

  • @kpwand
    @kpwand Před 2 lety +16

    Simon is living in denial. The point is not that hooligans exist and that they embarrass the majority. The point is that the stadium security was not able to secure the location and that lives were in danger. That is a major issue in awarding a bid to a host country.

    • @deaddogtony1677
      @deaddogtony1677 Před 2 lety +3

      He literally said the security team didn’t do their job so clean your ears out

    • @jayb2175
      @jayb2175 Před 2 lety +1

      That's literally what he said LOL.

    • @kpwand
      @kpwand Před 2 lety

      @@jayb2175 No, he didn't explicitly connect the security failure with the loss of the world cup. Losing the bid is a very real proposition.

    • @deaddogtony1677
      @deaddogtony1677 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kpwand because he’s not a precious little snowflake like you, he’s logical. He fully admits it was a big fail by the security team, but he doesn’t agree with the agenda that we should therefor not be able to host the World Cup, especially considering the next World Cup is being held in some backwards hell hole, it’s hardly a giant hurdle nobody can overcome, just get better or more security, problem solved

    • @jayb2175
      @jayb2175 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kpwand bro Qatar cut peoples hands off and hate homosexuality, but you think one game not having proper security will screw up our world Cup bid? 😂🤦‍♂️

  • @C2190
    @C2190 Před 2 lety +4

    keep calling them a minority simon it’s not like any of this has been happening for decades the british have and will always be like this.

    • @qahirmakhani348
      @qahirmakhani348 Před 2 lety +2

      Yup. Just like brexit is about economic anxiety and the fact you have an openly racist pm doesn't mean the country is racist or xenophobic, allegedly

  • @whitewand7052
    @whitewand7052 Před 2 lety +2

    Ah, Simon Jordan! Could listen to him all day, how fortunate his friends must be to be able to have an intellectual conversion with such an intelligent person!

  • @lucasmoreno5330
    @lucasmoreno5330 Před 2 lety +14

    Simon is talking absolute tosh. I lived in the UK and went to football games my entire life. I know live in Spain. The level of violence and threat of hooligans in nothing like that of the UK. Football is a family event in Spain.

    • @ianjones2731
      @ianjones2731 Před 2 lety

      And your tiny anecdotal evidence is irrelevant

    • @Ajs_1988
      @Ajs_1988 Před 2 lety

      I've never seen footage of real Madrid fans trying to smash their own players cars up after they have lost a game. Nope .. never

  • @macca4610
    @macca4610 Před 2 lety +13

    Little heads up talksport don’t mention racism when you employ Trevor Sinclair who racially abused a police officer. Just to rub it in you ask his opinion on the matter and he actually offers his opinion 😂 can we get sterling condemning diving next or maybe Matt Hancock on adultery

    • @TheMartinTD
      @TheMartinTD Před 2 lety +2

      Talkshit

    • @DSN262
      @DSN262 Před 2 lety +2

      Sincllair is racist

    • @robertmason6366
      @robertmason6366 Před 2 lety

      Indeed or troy Deeney on black premiership players on minimum wage!

  • @shofiulazam7108
    @shofiulazam7108 Před 2 lety +12

    Talks about minority and proceeds to generalize every other country

  • @Millesimal_Ed
    @Millesimal_Ed Před 2 lety +8

    I never thought I'd agree with Simon Jordan, yet here I am.

  • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

    Mind Begs the Question:
    Anti Semitism - Sternly dealt with
    Racism,Islamophobia - if not Equally Sternly dealt with
    Govt,Judiciary - Fair,Racist?

  • @daedralord1
    @daedralord1 Před 2 lety +4

    Jim whites family must be embarrassed by what he constantly says.

    • @Grandmastergav86
      @Grandmastergav86 Před 2 lety

      Yeah, but it has the kickback of a salary so it's a massive step up from the care home. He's the Joe Biden of Sports reporting.

    • @jimthomson4052
      @jimthomson4052 Před 2 lety

      Another anti Scottish remark

  • @andy5Utd
    @andy5Utd Před 2 lety +4

    100% with Jordan.

  • @VR46314
    @VR46314 Před 2 lety +4

    A lot of people are mad because people who bought tickets last year have had their ticket refunded and given to a suit.
    Doesn’t mean it’s right but some of those “ticketless fans” had their ticket taken away from them.

    • @billmwika7428
      @billmwika7428 Před 2 lety

      Never knew that

    • @billmwika7428
      @billmwika7428 Před 2 lety

      Still doesn't make it right though to act like that

    • @papamurrth1
      @papamurrth1 Před 2 lety

      You have no idea if that is true. Did you interview the mob that charged through? If so, pass their details onto police. Shame if they had their ticket stolen, which isn't true, they stole a seat by charging in without a ticket. Defending criminals is pathetic

    • @VR46314
      @VR46314 Před 2 lety

      @@papamurrth1 I’m not defending the mob who stormed in but I had a group of friends who bought their ticket for 2020 and only just before the tournament got refunded out of the blue and couldn’t buy a ticket .
      You could see why a small group would be mad but not 1000s of people .

  • @MrJaza24
    @MrJaza24 Před 2 lety +5

    Well done Simon 👏

  • @susanpeters5392
    @susanpeters5392 Před 2 lety +4

    Well said Simon

  • @johnsaxon1446
    @johnsaxon1446 Před 2 lety +3

    Spot on Simon Jordan!!

  • @mohammedyusufal-hindi
    @mohammedyusufal-hindi Před 2 lety +1

    A celtic bid would be better. Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland

  • @bulliboyz
    @bulliboyz Před 2 lety +2

    Simon to Jim:: “let me finish my whataboutery rant”....Simon then proceeds to constantly jump in when Jim is talking

  • @JRichard20
    @JRichard20 Před 2 lety +2

    I think Jim is completely out of his depth here. Simon is usually spot on, imo.

  • @daveclare5958
    @daveclare5958 Před 2 lety +2

    Well said Simon, a voice of reason in an over the top newspapers, just to sell.

  • @chriswilson805
    @chriswilson805 Před 2 lety +2

    By Jim's logic, we shouldn't host premier league games.

  • @uziwiththeuzi5974
    @uziwiththeuzi5974 Před 2 lety +21

    Jim left Sky and has wanted Simon’s head ever since

    • @samsammsammm1547
      @samsammsammm1547 Před 2 lety +8

      Jordan is a xenophobe white supremacist who justifies is views with irrelevant Whataboutery, Typical TalkSport pundit,.

    • @pizzagateisreal
      @pizzagateisreal Před 2 lety +10

      @@samsammsammm1547 ridiculous

    • @leemcqueen500
      @leemcqueen500 Před 2 lety +8

      @@samsammsammm1547 What are you blabbing on about?

    • @Grandmastergav86
      @Grandmastergav86 Před 2 lety +3

      @@samsammsammm1547 Based on what? lmfao He's never once expressed any such views of the sort.

    • @anthonywalker6623
      @anthonywalker6623 Před 2 lety +4

      @@samsammsammm1547 utter nonsense. To the point that I'm not sure you have a clue what you just typed. 😂

  • @Timeculture
    @Timeculture Před 2 lety +2

    They both make good points, but the question remains:
    what is the appropriate punishment for England for this repeated and expected failure of its match day security?
    Is Jim suggesting it goes unpunished?
    Onana got 1 year ban for a failed drug test

    • @Grandmastergav86
      @Grandmastergav86 Před 2 lety +1

      Jim has yet to make a single good point over the course of his career....There's still time.

  • @dtrez3866
    @dtrez3866 Před 2 lety +12

    I didn't like that the comments section for "mings is spot on" talksport video are turned off. Yet after "mings is spot on" title you've put this "👏🏾". So you are telling people he is right, applauding it, and not allowing any other views. I FIND THAT DISGUSTING. It is free shot in the political arena without any chance of a response. I don't like. That is sinister. How dare you. You are afraid of the free market place of ideas. I wish you were only cowards. But I believe this is more sinister.

    • @TheatypicalLife
      @TheatypicalLife Před 2 lety +1

      Because he's right. What argument against him can you make?

    • @dtrez3866
      @dtrez3866 Před 2 lety +2

      @@TheatypicalLife I personally could make arguments, and I am as "black (which he identified as)" as mings.
      Do you want to hear my argument against mings? I can prove to you that there are reasonable arguments against mings and whether you agree with them or not, they are arguments that are totally legitimate and valid that are being silenced. I don't like arguments being silence based off an assumption that the first claim cannot be wrong. That approach is anti knowledge, declaring something to be right while denying any argument to be made against it.
      My argument which was not allowed to be heard 👇🏽
      Priti Patel said “I just don’t support people participating in that type of gesture politics,”
      So as a politician, Patel said she herself does not support what she identifies as "gesture politics".
      A) is she not allowed to have an opinion? "I just don’t support". A politician is not allowed to Express their own opinion about a matter where players are making political gestures in front of the world? Is priti not allowed to give her opinion? Where was the "stoking of fires"? Whatever the question she was asked, she answered with that she herself doesn't support it. Is she allowed to do that? Where exactly is the crime? Where exactly is the "stoking fires"? So now, adults and politicians cannot give a view about taking a knee without being accused of stoking racism? Do you really wanna go to such a place? I don't. It is a dangerous place. Everything that others disapprove of could be claimed to be "stoking". An one day that could be used against you, your causes and your views. Consider that.
      B) if taking a knee is not political gesturing, then what is it? Is taking a knee a gesture? Is it being done in a political context? Yes to both.
      There is a basic view against mings position, but such a view has been silenced leaving mings view alone to be perceived as the only view that is valid. Please explain to me how my view/argument is not as valid as mings.
      Notice, you and anyone else has the chance to respond and argue against what I said. But talksport will not allow ANY arguments against mings. Sinister cowards.
      And something else to consider. Mings is blaming Patel over something that has yet been demonstrated to be true. I say this because one dude who was claimed to made racist comments says his account was hacked, the tweet came from device never used before , HE WENT TO POLICE and now the police are investigating. So in reality, 99% of the "racist tweets" could have come from agent provocateur hackers who could have done so for sinister purposes. Can you deny this possibility? Therefore, not only is mings not "spot on", you all could be being played like a violin by sinister people who NEED "racism" to be everywhere. Experience tells me that it is foolish to rule out foul play out.
      Why should what I have said above be silenced? What is wrong with it? I answered your question, now please answer mine. Thanks.

  • @tanman966
    @tanman966 Před 2 lety +2

    nice to see the comments are on for this video...

  • @cfcmoi
    @cfcmoi Před 2 lety +3

    Simon is the man

  • @snakeplissken5480
    @snakeplissken5480 Před 2 lety +11

    "context" - perfect Simon

    • @daireoreilly2548
      @daireoreilly2548 Před 2 lety

      The context you need is that it was a few bad eggs this year, a few bad eggs in Russia, and in France etc. If the Russian hooligans do anything it’s indicative of their country and their culture. If the Hungarian fans shout homophobic chants their country is homophobic and disgusting, but when it’s English fans it’s a few bad eggs. You can only have so many bad eggs. Literally no other country in world football have excused should horrendous scenes minority or not.

    • @snakeplissken5480
      @snakeplissken5480 Před 2 lety

      @@daireoreilly2548 I dont believe all russians, french , hungarians are bad, I dont believe you do either, but im sure your name probably indicates where your coming from.

  • @Ali-lv1be
    @Ali-lv1be Před 2 lety

    We need more Simon Jordans in the media. People who think rationally, have a balanced view and aren’t afraid to go against the grain.

  • @thatsmoelikeit
    @thatsmoelikeit Před 2 lety +1

    Irish fans have never caused trouble at any international football match. Just nicer people not scum.

  • @cookingwithaz
    @cookingwithaz Před 2 lety +7

    They hug you whilst your winning and the moment you loose they stab you in your back. Disgraceful.

  • @tokhmi2006
    @tokhmi2006 Před 2 lety +1

    Also, football is a working class sport. This is not polo or horseracing or some elite sport.

  • @robertmason6366
    @robertmason6366 Před 2 lety +1

    Anyone watching this show for the first time would think that Jim works for Hope not Hate with his selective Moral high ground regarding English working class. I'm surprised he didn't use the term knuckle dragged with his babbling butting in rhetoric!

  • @brandonmasters8996
    @brandonmasters8996 Před 2 lety +1

    Wonder what Gary Neville would say about this? He was shaking hands with the intruders and criminals at Old Trafford in May.

    • @brandonmasters8996
      @brandonmasters8996 Před 2 lety

      To be fair to Gary....just like England...Man U do not win silverware anymore!!!

  • @niceperson5962
    @niceperson5962 Před 2 lety +1

    British-Irish bid. Typical ... the English are only British when it's embarassing to be called English. These were English fans not "British fans". For "We" read England

  • @marc3981
    @marc3981 Před 2 lety +7

    100% right from Simon. I'm sick of us being spoken about as scum of the earth by people who watched Russia World Cup and said nothing as their hooligans ripped through our fans. Same people who said nothing of south Africa in 2010, the home of apartheid, where racism is rife till this day. Same people who will say nothing about Qatar. Self hatred in this country is an absolute joke. Jim is Scottish. End of.

    • @PlatefulVerse
      @PlatefulVerse Před 10 měsíci

      Qatar won their World Cup bid, you can keep being a sore loser about it or hope we actually get our act together next time a major tournament comes around. Why do you think England pulled out of the 2030 World Cup bid? It’s because they are sore losers who can’t accept defeat

  • @mattfinch3895
    @mattfinch3895 Před 2 lety

    Media had this all mapped out. Win or lose they had there playbook sorted.

  • @philosophicallybroke8873
    @philosophicallybroke8873 Před 2 lety +1

    Simon, I admire your attempts to bring context to the discussion but it's waisted on Jim. He's a journalist and therefore wilfully ignores context. It's his job.

  • @andyrobinson6560
    @andyrobinson6560 Před 2 lety

    Jim White critical of England fans booing Italian national anthem been to a few England v Scotland games and you can't even hear English anthem due to the booing

  • @michaeldevall8497
    @michaeldevall8497 Před 2 lety

    The ticket prices don’t reflect 99%,of this country so why should 1000 fans.

  • @davidcrook9293
    @davidcrook9293 Před 2 lety +2

    Simon Jordan this was not a minority it was thousands of people you defending these people you saying your not but sounds different, yes there should be checks before you get near the stadium but this is society today unfortunately, if you where there with your child scared stiff someone in your seat I bet you would change your opinion so disappointed in Jordan well done jim

    • @Shades_of_White
      @Shades_of_White Před 2 lety

      Thousands of people is a minority when the majority is 60 thousand at the stadium, or the millions watching from home or pubs. It is a minority, and it was sickening to watch, but they do not represent the majority of English football fans.

  • @craig2892
    @craig2892 Před 2 lety +2

    Simon Jordon for Prime Minister!

  • @davidharrison6083
    @davidharrison6083 Před 2 lety

    Simon, you are brilliant. Nothing but truth and common sense. This is meat and drink to the media. They love it.

  • @Zeppelin180
    @Zeppelin180 Před 2 lety +6

    Completely different tone from Simon compared to the Old Trafford protests...

    • @onetwo8847
      @onetwo8847 Před 2 lety

      how...
      He is criticising the fans in both cases

  • @thegameschanged1248
    @thegameschanged1248 Před 2 lety

    There were a number of Euro 2020 games held in Baku, Azerbaijan - a country that recently annexed and committed war crimes in Nagoro - Kabakh

  • @superbia75es
    @superbia75es Před 2 lety

    I'm no Jordan fan...he trots out the landscape, narrative and scenario words like they give the illusion of intelligence. No, it's clichéd and dull. However, his point about Spain and Hungary is spot on. Fair play.

  • @davesway1170
    @davesway1170 Před 2 lety +1

    Keep out future football events out of England. The English society is incapable of handling these sort of events and clearly lack class as a mass of people

  • @pedropierre9594
    @pedropierre9594 Před 2 lety +1

    Its the best fans in the world remember

  • @paulholman8594
    @paulholman8594 Před 2 lety +1

    Loads of people throwing stones in glass houses ere .. I look at the FV problems in Holland .. Italy .. Germany .. Poland .. Russia .. far far more serious than a few pissed up lads out for a jolly ?? People have been cooked up for nearly 2 years and we have the biggest final here since 1966 ?? What did people expect ?? I was their and the majority of people behaved well .. always a small minority who come out looking for trouble .. gangs of local youths who aren’t even football fans turned up for bother I seen that numerous of times that’s gone unreported .. absolutely disgusting the media are turning on our own people ?? Some of the things that go on at the football all over Europe regularly make this look like a stroll in the park .. England fans are the best in the world bar none home and away .. the tartan army ?? Good old Scotland fans their for a laugh ?? Living in a dream world .. most of them left Wembley and London in a mess smashed things and were fighting in the streets ?? But because it’s the tartan army it’s ok ?? Double standards

  • @TheSvenysven
    @TheSvenysven Před 2 lety +3

    Jim the prize clown of talk sport

  • @mario4725
    @mario4725 Před 2 lety +1

    Shouldn’t hold the players parents in higher regard than other paying fans

  • @mulindejohn
    @mulindejohn Před 2 lety +3

    They haven’t even talked about the Italian fans getting beat up when coming out of the stadium. If am fifa no way am granting them the chance to host it.

    • @longlivetheboleyn1917
      @longlivetheboleyn1917 Před 2 lety +1

      Because it didn't happen

    • @mulindejohn
      @mulindejohn Před 2 lety

      @@longlivetheboleyn1917 there is video of it lol. You English are deluded.

    • @DudleyBlue
      @DudleyBlue Před 2 lety

      Can you show Me evidence of that happening???? Or shut up with your lies….

    • @DudleyBlue
      @DudleyBlue Před 2 lety +1

      @@mulindejohn post it in this comment section please otherwise you’re just another liar just making things up

    • @DudleyBlue
      @DudleyBlue Před 2 lety +1

      @@longlivetheboleyn1917 he’s says there are videos but funny enough can’t show us the evidence….. can you smell that???? sniff sniff it smells like bullshit….

  • @faz0fcht
    @faz0fcht Před 2 lety

    Bang on Simon. Also why do we have to share the bid with Ireland ? We should go it alone.

  • @aster7693
    @aster7693 Před 2 lety

    Where were the police or security? Surely an event this big should have a few police stationed at all entrances with additional private security, it's almost like it was let to happen

  • @ScuzzyBear45
    @ScuzzyBear45 Před 2 lety +1

    Excuses excuses excuses.

  • @joshuakaumba6273
    @joshuakaumba6273 Před 2 lety +1

    Everytime I hear jim white now I hear mark goldbridge's impression

  • @mikedee171
    @mikedee171 Před 2 lety

    Simon Jordan let me be honest I doubt the Uk bid is going to happen. Republic of Ireland cannot go along with this bid. The problem is England hooligans is a a big minority.

  • @TheZakluk
    @TheZakluk Před 2 lety

    YEESSSSS JORDAN.
    Fantastically well said under hostile intensity. Nicely done.

  • @Shot007
    @Shot007 Před 2 lety

    Simn is right and makes great points. But I have to say its just as much a problem to look blindly to the hooligans. Just as its problematic to always highlight them, its as bad to completely ignore them. And Jim White is right as well, "i will be balanced but we will report it!"

  • @ganeegans
    @ganeegans Před 2 lety +2

    I am okay with 2030wc provided England gets a tough group. Say Brazil,France and South Korea maybe...

    • @glennbateman4483
      @glennbateman4483 Před 2 lety +1

      Depends how high we are in the rankings

    • @alastairbrewster4274
      @alastairbrewster4274 Před 2 lety +1

      Depends on the draw , why do certain ppl feel we somehow were given an easy draw? Are ppl that thick? England very easily could have gone out in the second round to one of the group of death teams , in fact every one here seemed to be saying that England would lose! Yet they didn’t , so many muppets just waiting for an opportunity to attack anything English. Actually by your rampant anti English agenda you’re the one being racist.

  • @bud1876
    @bud1876 Před 2 lety

    Once again like many times before Simon Jordan makes sense.
    I watched the events happen on social media a bit after the game and didnt give it much thought....I was actually thinking if I had been younger and seen a gap to get in I would have went for it.
    The media in the UK should be ashamed of reporting this in the way they did.
    I dont think this should have any effect on future World Cup or Euro bids.
    I think it's long overdue for England to host a World Cup.
    I'm not for countries sharing, it should be all in one country.

  • @robertking7772
    @robertking7772 Před 2 lety

    If you want a trouble free tournament in great weather with fantastic stadiums, fanatical crowds, in a multicultural nation which will be organised like clockwork, then give it to Australia.... they have hosted the Olympics , commonwealth games, World Cup rugby and World Cup cricket without a hitch whatsoever....... end of story

  • @captainblimp4133
    @captainblimp4133 Před 2 lety

    In a lot of countries people just sit anywhere they like anyway lol

  • @neilgibbs1973
    @neilgibbs1973 Před 2 lety

    Everytime Jim White opens his mouth he just confirms what Simon Jordan is saying .

  • @RAWDernison1
    @RAWDernison1 Před 2 lety

    I saw an empty seat between Beckham and Cruise, the England substitutes filled up all the rest.

  • @trudieyeates2955
    @trudieyeates2955 Před 2 lety

    Ask Jim about the jocks in London 2 weeks ago

  • @marcwilliams2745
    @marcwilliams2745 Před 2 lety

    Simon Jordan talking absolute sense as per usual. What happened on Sunday was completely over exaggerated.

  • @michaeldevall8497
    @michaeldevall8497 Před 2 lety

    Bring The prices down kids might actually pay for a ticket.

  • @qb402
    @qb402 Před 2 lety

    Why would England bid with Ireland.Theres only like 2 decent stadiums in Ireland.

  • @seanek9
    @seanek9 Před 2 lety

    TalkSport literally had to disable comments on some of its videos covering the vile racism and the positive response in condemning those responsible. If you can’t even talk about it without a racist pile-on it’s obviously not just a small minority. It’s endemic. Not playing any big games like this in England going forward will certainly help.

  • @Joelio8701
    @Joelio8701 Před 2 lety +1

    Simon actually talks sense