JFRD responds to Tampico road fire
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- čas přidán 27. 12. 2022
- Jacksonville Fire Rescue Department responded to a house fire in the early afternoon to what turned out as a rooming house and displaced 7 occupants. Unfortunately one person was injured in this fire and transported to the hospital, but with a fast aggressive attack by crews got this fire under control pretty quickly.
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They where moving,hustling, great job guys!
That was hustling to you?
Yes man they have to live can be on the line and r
@@helenrenee8105 What would you consider hustling, compared to the FF’s in the video?
yes they were.
Quick knock down, great job guys and thank you for protecting the citizens of your area
Thanks for seeing it as it is...
This department is awesome 💯💯
Thank you.
Boy! Talk about kicking ass! Great job!
You know it!
Nice job guys 👍. That's how you get inside and get it done 👌👌
thats right
good work
I am watching from Elmira NY good footage and great job firefighters
Thank you very much!
Good job 👍👩🚒❤️🇺🇸
Kickin It and Taking Names. Great work. Keeping Us Safe And Making Us Proud. Dizzy.
trying to
Friggin Rights Brother. Stay Safe Dizzy.@@thejfrd2490
I love down there and that's very scary
it is
Señores mil bendiciones
@josegonzales5591
Sorry I cannot respond...english please.
Great job
thank you
Looks like triple loads on the crosslays💪💪💪💪 33 1/2 feet to get 150 feet on the ground?!!....And the bell on 33's Rig was Awesome!
The captain of the engine makes that call on what loads they use
Great job, any idea what the cause was?
My mixtape slipped out of my backpack 😔
@@1234519022 🤣
Believed to be smoking.
About to subscribe to your channel I like this video
hope you are still watching
It seems the timing of these scenes is jumbled but that was good use of the booster line & quick overall knock down.
The video was not put together to stick to a chronological order. Not real time
@@thejfrd2490
Gotcha. Was a great job done on scene.
I'm guessing the color balance was off, the only fire I've ever created that was red was oxidation of Strontium chloride or strontium nitrate... the same stuff they use in road flares. the setting was within a fume hood under controlled quantities
@shaofuchang515
Funny that you mention this...suddenly, any footage shot from my iphone does this and I am working to remedy this issue. Hope you are able to see past this.
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very
Make that 31's Rig.....👍
ok
Why pull a booster line ??? Hadn’t used them in years . 13/4 for exposure and attack
Did it work? Yes! Most fire department's I have seen wold have let the vehicle (alpha exposure) burn! Back my early days we put out.a ton of fire with red lines!
@@aportman58 Good to see the red line at work! It drags well, doesn't kink or snag and is highly resistant to cuts and punctures.
@@akron1000gpm But not enough water...
@@gregktm Depends how you use it.
@aportman58
we had the manpower to address it effectively.
Was anyone home hope not
There was...and one person was transported with non life threatening injuries.
@@thejfrd2490 ok
No hustle at all
What do you consider hustling??
@helenrenee8105
Are you a fire fighter? We do not run on the fireground, that promotes injury. Everyone has a job to do and the are purposeful in those jobs.
Nice work gang; AIA 24/7!!
At least try to move the cars.
@moemcgovern7345
Have you ever been to a fire? a car can quickly be replaced. We are more worried about human life...
Where do you even begin trying to find the keys? It is easiest just to put water on it and cool it off.
Way too much editing. Almost like it put itself out.
@mountainman5025
It is difficult to get inside to shoot the water getting on the fire...this fire was put out from the interior, no other way to show it.
Im sorry but when a redline goes on the ground before overhaul im not going to take the FD seriously. I dont care if it can handle it or whatever. Tradition impeded by progress…sorry im done
Or for jfrd, 138 years of tradition, unimpeded by progress.
@gregroberts4309
If by "red line" you are referring to the booster line...it was pulled to cool the vehicle...1 3/4 inch lines had already been deployed to the interior of the house. Please advise where your experience is from
I’m sorry...but what the hell is with all the firefighters with no gear on?? Chauffeur or not....put your damn gear on
thanks for your input
"I have heavy fire showing" ...so lets grab the red garden hose and do a aggressive attack guys ???
Go to some other platform that serves your obviously short experience revelation in the fire service 😡😡😡
Did you miss the part where they pulled an 1 3/4 line and went interior?
Booster lines are reel lines which means it can be deployed faster than cross lays or pulling line from the back of the hose bed. It reduces the time taken to apply water to the fire. So Joe perhaps you should go take some training before commenting in such a ridiculous fashion. Otherwise you will end up having your reputation besmirched by your inane comments like JB. Further I have yet to see a garden hose that has an 11/4 inside diameter.
@@trentverdonck18 after the booster line.
@@davidlenzi3551 I work on a engine in NY, and pulled more handlines in a year then you can imagine. What puts out fire is... WATER , booster lines just don't have the GPM.
1 3/4" will put out approx. 185 GPM all depends on hose, nozzle, PDP. When trained properly you can deploy a handline just as fast.
Sounded to me like it was confirmed that no one was inside. Based on what is seen from this video, the structure and contents were a total loss upon arrival. There should be NO reason to initially go interior with the amount of fire already venting in numerous places with structural compromise. This is a perfect example of what should have been a transitional attack. Risk a lot to save a lot. Risk little to save little…..and save firefighters from getting hurt or killed!
I think what you are missing is the fact that the audio and video are not synced up…we are an aggressive department and we put forth an extra effort to protect our public…we have had numerous saves after being told everyone was out of the structure, including people and pets…it is easy to armchair quarterback it from where you sit playing and replaying a video…and actually, the contents were not a complete loss…we recovered many belongings from the back of the house…smoke damage, but no fire damage
Containing the fire preventing the spread by heat radiation from the original fire building and yes I am a trained firefighter.
@@trentverdonck18 and that mentality is the reason we are losing firefighters in fires that should have been fought from the outside first. You don’t need to be a hero on every fire. Confirmed or not, if conditions are not tenable there shouldn’t be an initial interior attack.
@@thejfrd2490 so refreshing to hear a DEPARTMENT say this. Awesome work and reply.
@@thejfrd2490 Glad to hear you are an aggressive department. In light of what you said, the structure and contents I’m sure were a complete loss. Smoke damaged items are 99% unsalvageable. They can be replaced. Your firefighters lives are not. This still should have been a transitional attack. This will be more of the way of future firefighting operations. With the advancement of modern PPE/Gear/air packs, too many of us feel that they are almost invincible inside fire buildings. This as you should know is not the case. Firefighters are dying from the hero syndrome. Let’s take a step back, knock down heavy fire and then transition to interior ops. When ppl. are not confirmed trapped, this should be the way in cases like this particular fire. Say what you might but this is a safer operation for all.
You people need everything drawn out for you and then you still don't get it. THERE IS A LOT OF EDITING IN THIS VIDEO SO EVEYTHING THEY DID TOOK A LOT LONGER!
1. You have access to the interior fire at the front and back. The fire is burning through the interior.
2. It takes time to assemble an entry team, get fully dressed, get the front door open and then go into a smoke and heat filled structure that is unfamiliar to you and if there are people inside, you have no idea where they are.
3. SO, you can get tank water through those opening without being fully dressed and eliminate the flames and heat and make the interior must more survivable, while the victims have to wait for the entry team.
4. A 1-3/4" line could have gone to that left window showing fire, the booster line should have gone directly to the front door and the 1-3/4" line to the side. You have to size the hoses for the size of the fire. A booster line in back was too small and both locations needed to be at that same time. A straight stream from that booster line did nothing to knock that down. Did you not see the tangle of those hoses that also slowed their progress? You can't just pull lines; you need a plan and that is the job of the first person on scene. This fire could have been knocked down 1.5 minutes, before they could have even gone inside.
5. 2:16 and it's still burning. Remember the editing! TIME! That fire was pumping flammable and toxic smoke into the living space the entire time they were TRYING to put the fire out from the inside. Guess what? They weren't able to accomplish that so why didn't they just put it out from the exterior in the first place?
6. PLUS, that fire they let burn and get bigger, was the ignition source for all those flammable gasses inside the house that could have created a flashover.
Here! Go learn something about real firefighting. czcams.com/play/PLkp0E1ao1XEzg384QZ4ovMA_6P7gCY3nJ.html
All hail JB the fire tactics god 🙇🏼♂️
JB91710 you definitely are not an observant person. Your tactics fall apart as soon as you pay attention to the important parts of this video. One the occupants had escaped the fire before the FDs arrival. It was confirmed early on in the radio chatter. Second if there were an occupant trapped then you need to rescue that occupant ASAP. spraying water into the structure creates steam which will burn any occupant in the fire building and put the rescue squad in greater peril.
Now for fire behavior since the heat was already escaping the structure via the holes already burned through the roof there is little chance of a flashover. Given that the structure is already vented the possibility of a backdraft is negligible. by stepping into the void the firefighter used his booster line to cool the seat of the fire, The second line an 1 3/4 attack line brought in to speed the extinguishment of the fire means that the fire was out sooner and some of the contents were possibly saved. Things in drawers kept for sentimental reasons. You were asked by me earlier what has caused you to become so negative towards firefighters. Your acidic rhetoric shows some kind of issue. You should go seek some counseling.
@@trentverdonck18 It's a bitch being stupid, huh Trent? Jealousy is a terrible thing.
@@davidlenzi3551 "spraying water into the structure creates steam which will burn any occupant in the fire building and put the rescue squad in greater peril." Really? How about the 1500 degree flames and the threat of Flashover? Are they a consideration? Since the windows created a pressure release location away from the rest of the interior, won't the gasses and water vapor continue out the windows? With the heat source extinguished and cooled with the water, won't the water vapor be rendered harmless? When you go into a structure that is on fire and you apply water, won't you be trapped in a confined space full of steam?
"Now for fire behavior since the heat was already escaping the structure via the holes already burned through the roof there is little chance of a flashover." Not in the area to the right that is full of smoke and continuously fed with flammable smoke and exposed to the flames to the left.
"by stepping into the void the firefighter used his booster line to cool the seat of the fire," The seat of the fire was in the rooms to the left and that fire didn't get reduced until they Finally applied water from the outside. They didn't accomplish a thing inside except to put themselves and any victims at an unnecessary risk.
"You were asked by me earlier what has caused you to become so negative towards firefighters." It's not just firefighters, it's everybody in any profession that says they will do a job and then don't even come close to getting it right. People who put themselves and others at unnecessary risks because they were either not thinking or they were riding an adrenaline or hero rush. I also don't like people who worship people like that Just because they Joined Up, Dressed Up and Showed Up and they have an exciting and sometimes comic book profession.
UL, NIST and ISFSI are correct, and nobody follows their lead. Why? Because doing the job right is boring. The worst thing is, THEY KNOW BETTER AND CHOOSE DO IT THE DANGEROUS WAY! That's not very responsible or even mature. You haven't watched those videos I posted, have you? czcams.com/play/PLkp0E1ao1XEzg384QZ4ovMA_6P7gCY3nJ.html
@@JB91710 The answer lies in that 98% of fire fatalities are due to other causes than flames. As I have said repeatedly go see a counselor. You are beating a dead horse with old and out dated ideas. Interior attack will always come into play in a structure fire event even if it is to sift through the ash and charred wood to recover remains after the flames are out.
In the USA you always have to ask, "There's the fire right there! Where's the water?" That was truly pathetic!
What exactly are you going on about? What video are you watching? You clearly see them stretching a line interior and clearly see conversion from water on the fire?
Here we go some stupid person, from another country who probably never been near a fire except to lite a cigarette thinking they know how to fight a fire. Especially their tinker toy fires truck
@@trentverdonck18 They shouldn't be stretching Inside when they can put the water directly on the Visible Burning Material through the windows. They didn't put that fire out very fast from the inside and they put themselves at an unnecessary risk. Typical USA BS.
@@bobharvey8581 How old are you, 6? If you want to talk about stupid, check out your grammar and punctuation.
We do not squirt water from the outside with reports of people being in the structure...we attack the fire from the inside while simultaneously doing a search of the structure for any occupants or pets...We are sorry that you consider these tactics "pathetic" but our motto is "life over property" and our citizens benefit from that.
Need a little training in Truck Ops !
@mikefargo4339
Please elaborate...I disagree