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I love the Mipedian tribe. They and the Underworlders are my favorite tribes. My favorite characters who are Mipedians are Sobjeck, Ario, Vinta, and Ghatup. I really liked Prince Iflar's design, I wish the show gave him more screen time than that one blip in the last episode of season 2. And I would also like to see King Theb-Saar get some screen time other than his picture on his card.

I *think* in the original Bandai rules, both players took their turns simultaneously and you could only have 1 monster in play at a time (not that I blame you for not realizing that - too many modern effects rely on filling a board and responding to the other player on sequence)

"This is dumb" How the fuck did this game ever get off the ground?

I always wondered where the level stars come from, because they seem like a really tacked on mechanic in the actual game. it makes sense that they actually used to be "price points" as a drawback for big monsters.

Im a sketch/a.i so what i do i sketch and ink and then use a.i for flat color cause it cant shade. I also use a.i for simple redraws so find a promp redraw over the character like tracing on someone else art but its a.i so stealing its art but the character are completely different

I think that last game, you missed that monsters die in combat because of their defence. But I'm more concerned about someone making a deck that doesn't contain any stars worth of monsters.

I dont care if they use ai tbh.

Ward isn't using Ai anymore it was just the first run they did

wtf dragonmaids player? what a weirdo

I forgot to mention in the video but THANK YOU SO MUCH for 800 subs! That's so insane to me. Again, special thanks to Tia This video took a lot outta me so there /might/ not be a video next week (June 16 2024)

I like blue eyes because of dragons I think I like dragon

Man i miss this game so much, shame nobody i knew played it

I see a lot of ai users in the comments defending it because they dont want to spend money on real artists. What i find funny is that they don’t realize that they themselves dont consume ai generated work and will always prefer real art over ai generated but they think their target audience will eat the lazzy fake art ai generates.

Hey you hear rumor that this game might comeback?

Huh... does that mean there a sky kingdom race. Mostly sky base monster they live in the air

I wanna make my own online TCG, I am not artist and that leaves me with 2 choices first being paying group of artist for making art for the game and second one is using ai, sorry but i will use AI for now as I can't afford paying people for making few hundred images

wow that was really cool! I followed Chaotic as a child, I want to see more content about it again. What book would that be that you are holding?

I love the middle poster behind you. Whats on it?

I hope we get to see all the main human characters battle and have development related to their battle strategies. I don't want any main characters who feel like they have nothing left to learn, there's always a new strategy (in the show's universe). I also hope it doesn't turn into a 'all the tribes need to come together in peace and sing Kumbaya', because that would really defeat the point of how long this war between the tribes has been waging for, like the only thing that got the tribes to work together, was a bigger badder tribe.

Does it have a graveyard??

FEAR THE MACHINE 💀💀💀😂

Can't believe you played against two players that bricked and then you matched up with the sweatiest player possible. Master Duel truly is a game of extremes.

I actually bought a book store's remaining stock of the coins and beginner decks. I use one pouch of 30 coins for MTG tokens.

AI fucked over artists. F Ai art

I feel like divorced dads is supposed to be such a joke/low effort that they get a pass

We should stop using the marketing term "AI Art" and start calling it "AI Collage" the fact that you can prompt some of these models to just spit out their input images raw should really indicate the level to which the inputs are being recycled more than manipulated into something new.

Your understanding of how AI image generation functions and how they are trained is very flawed.

It’s dead, remember it for what it was continue collecting if you want but it’s not making a comeback.

You knock away the neighbouring administrators, their cavalry horses and guard towers so yours can help your peon children too the greener grass on the other side. Where they will lure more women too join the king as his queens in his harem too possibly gaslight the opponents queen after her king has died. Just remember that the first queen on the board is always a yandere ;)

Besides the rarity, art is what gives value too the cards. But unlike my friends i just buy the cards i need/want off places like cardmarket. I've never ones checked who made the art on the card or purchased card for that reason. I do however like playing themed decks. So it is much more important for me what the developers had in mind with certain cards. Or what the lore of the card is or what the art of the card was supposed too mean in the universe of the TCG etc. So although i understand that AI art is still using existing art too build off from. So can real artists take a pose from one character with the hairstyle of another with the clothes of another with the other parts too make a completely new character just the same.

Ai art kind of adds an aura of "cheapness" to any product, for lack of a better term. I understand not having to pay artists makes forming a startup card game less expensive, but I'd rather these aspiring game creators used something like Kickstarter instead and then just released their product with a higher standard of quality. I agree a lot of these new games are giving Metazoo vibes, where the entire game turns out to be a rug pull to generate profit instead of a passion project.

7:01 The more to the game that you're not seeing (that I haven't yet seen mentioned in comments): Link attacks. One or more monsters or the player can attack at the same time, combining their power and their critical. Impact Monster is a card type that can be played during your Final Phase, and can attack during the Final Phase (this does not mean that you [Stand] them when your Final Phase begins, hence they can ordinarily only attack once per turn and have to choose between attacking during your Attack Phase or your Final Phase) You can call monsters even if the size of all monsters on the field would exceed 3, or if there's already a monster at that area. You just need to send monsters to the drop zone afterwards Items can have Defense. Especially when using the cards released towards the end of its lifespan, this isn't too rare to encounter. Attacking a player with an item with defense means that no damage will be dealt to the player, unless the attack has at least as much power as the item's defense. For instance, if a monster with 5000 Power and 3 Critical attacks a player who has an item with 6000 Defense equipped, no damage is dealt. Flags can have Power, Defense, and Critical. Used to not be a thing, but now it is. Effects with the Counter keyword can be activated at any time (unless it specifies when it can be activated). Once you play a Counter, if it's targeting some ability or spell, neither player can react until the action being targeted resolves (ie. You cast a spell. I Counter by casting Breathen Gard, nullifying that spell. You cannot in return Counter my counter, until my Breathen Gard and your spell finish resolving). Much less important buf: You can add cards to your deck that are not mentioned as a card you can use based on the flag you play. However, you cannot use them. This is a restriction that is applied during gameplay, not during deckbuilding, which makes cards that turn your flag face-down, rendering it textless, work ("Ultimate Great Spell, World Pandemic!"). It's also still considered a flag so cards that can be played by all flags (not Generic cards) can still be played, funnily enough. Which is pretty relevant with Lost World.

I remember this game in a comic book store way back in mid 90s, both are now gone.

Seeing that this was posted 6 months ago, I have a bit of hope.

These games are so low budget and rate, they probably couldn't even exists if it wasn't for AI. As for Magic, Im more concerned about the decay of its actual art.

I feel like AI art, like all tools, is good or bad depending entirely on how it's used. If I wanted to make a TCG, for instance, AI art would be solid way to get playtests in or even produce cards if I don't have much of a budget. If I try to sell the game on 'genuine art', however, then I think that would be wrong.

Jesus, your delivery on this is like you're confessing to a heinous crime. Calm down, they're just meme cards.

I really only see AI Art for card games (or any medium really) useful for 'personal non-commercial use' like I do for just fun. I can't imagine there are people selling TCG's using AI Art for the cards making profit off of it. Seems like a slippery slope to sell your products with AI Art when the laws on it can change the future and possibly get retroactively sued/made to pay fines. As for the point on photoshop got bad news for you, Adobe has Ai Generators in Photoshop now to make Ai Art and its already swirling with controversy. This monster will not go away until it gets out of control and laws are in place to either reign it in or allow it to stay around in some form commercially. With that said, the AI tools like Stable Diffusion are really useful for my own art, such as taking a photo of mine of a texture and being able to easily make it tile so I can use it on a 3d model. You can also use the tool to train just your own art to generate in the same style.

Genuinely very good!

I want to send this to someone with no context

I respect your opinion but your understanding of "AI art" isnt correct and sounds like the misinformed hate videos made against AI art and i mean specifically your point about referencing and copying art that already exists, its just not how most AI works and there are multiple methods of generation. I hope you find peace and happiness but going against AI art is like going against the calculator or digital music processing. I appreciate that you do not like bad AI art, but your admitted prejudice is just part of what you think is acceptable or moral. Imagine if your entire life was judged at a glance by the way you look and how much care and money you put into your appearance. I love all the tools available to me by enhancing my own art with AI tools, and i hope you learn to accept them as well, because its not going away.

I have paid artists to make art. It costs at *least* $100, often more for a single piece of quality art. Now, let's imagine I am a talented game developer and am making a TCG game. I would need at least 300 cards or so to get started right? So, let's see, do I have $30,000 laying around somewhere? Maybe I should check the couch cushions. I understand you don't realize this, but your opinion is just nothing more than gatekeeping. Quality art should only be available to the rich, right?

I generally agree and all the examples people bring up are really sad. We don't want to force an environment where artists are pressured into using shady digital tools that are incorporated into software more and more which is bad enough on its own. I do not like where we're heading myself but Algomancy remains the project where I think it makes sense and isn't that shady. The dev puts immense effort into the playdesign and it just makes sense for him to use the skills he has to incorporate into a really strong 1 man project.

There is nothing good to say about a game they uses Ai images.

Ah yes, the solo mode punching bag from Master Duel. Great idea for a control deck but it's just too slow.

Hey, Machine Learning researcher here, great video! I absolutely agree on basically all your points in the video: I'm really not a fan of using generative AI - derived art as a substitute for real art, because it's only ever used due to it being a cost-cutting measure. It's never because it makes the end-product better, but because it's cheaper and easier. I have no problem with people using it as a tool or even whole-sale for fan projects as it is a way to really democratise the creative process. With regards to how you say it steals other peoples artwork from the internet (3:05 -> 3:30 ish) and "mish-mashes" it together, and how it is incapable of generating new images, this is not how it works. To try put the model into layman's terms, I will have to heavily oversimplify, but I hope this somewhat elucidates how it works. The AI image generation model is effectively just doing its best to try to predict an output of pixels that would maximise the probability its output would match a given input text description. It does this with many, many examples of images and captions, and does its best to build an internal model of how things looks, and maps related things together in it's latent space, which you can think of as a kind of understanding of the world. These caption - image pairs were drawn from anywhere researchers could get them in the past, as often these models are very data hungry. This includes places like Deviantart who permitted such uses. It learns in much the same way we do, and can be influenced by what it sees. It copies styles just in the way we would study famous artists and copy their styles. Due to these models still honestly being in their infancy, they're fairly flawed for the most part, and haven't reached the same understanding of the world as people have, so are prone to making mistakes humans would never make, and this is part of the reason we sometimes notice when art is AI generated. Despite must of the art used to train many of these models being freely available on the internet, much of it has non-commercial terms of use, and it's very much a grey-area if using these as training points for a generative AI model constitutes commercial use of the work as the work itself will never be produced by the model or sold as part of the product. I'm not sure where I stand on this issue as its very much profiteering off of free work, yet at the same time, it's only the same way we humans would adapt our artistic and creative talents. Just to think, before Filippo Brunelleschi, our art didn't even use perspective, and only as a whole culture did our art improve from effectively stealing from his art style. I think progress will be progress, and it's hard to put the breaks on it, but companies and people must be sensible with the tools they are given, because that's all generative AI is at the moment: a tool. And you know what they say, "To a man with a hammer, everything begins to look like a nail".

5:48 I don't think its a fair to assume that someone using AI art would also be taking shortcuts with other aspects of their game. Especially because art isn't really necessarily something simple, and actually the only part you CAN shortcut your way around without significant negative impact on the quality of the game. It's the least important aspect for evaluating the potential quality of a tcg. You can have a good tcg with bad art or even no art, if the rules and balance are well thought out, but the most beautiful original art can't make a good game on their own. Especially when looking at small scale projects, by individuals or small groups, someone who is very invested into game design aspects but not at all competent at creating art, could spend years playtesting and perfecting the balance of their tcg, and then use ai art to simply have art. I'd argue they made the right decision in how to allocate their time. On the other hand, an artist hand drawing unique art over the same time frame, will have a nice collection of artwork, but they don't actually have a game, and if they just throw something together in an afternoon, it's unlikely to be good. There's a reason that the art is often the last thing done. If you look at the cards used for prototyping in the early development of mtg, they're basically just bits of cardboard with a stick figure and some text on it. TL;DR: Art is the packaging. The mechanics are the product. Sure, appealing packaging makes a product more enticing, but bland packaging could be just as indicative of more work being put into the actual product

I love Graeme Barrett, he's got some of the funniest stuff on the internet. But between the ai art and the exorbitant shipping costs, I was turned off of buying DD

My dude you bought the stuff without even checking them, its not their fault, the problem is not the ai is the consumers

This is gonna be a heated take but I think AI Art should be used in TCGs however only for Bulk cards. Bulk cards aren't much cared for anyway, honestly that's a waste of time for a lot of artists and makes it cheaper to do. I'll admit this would be a impact on those of smaller artists who like doing bulk but emotion withdrawn it works. Maybe it should be only a rule for a smaller company, a smaller TCG. MTG can easily afford to pay real artists for Bulk but ya know when these smaller TCG try to start up I think this would be a great idea. Make all commons in a start up TCG just be AI art while the rest is commissioned then hopefully when success happens get real artists in for the commons. It also would make people appreciate the difference even more. Just like yourself I would never want a world that's just every TCG is now AI art so this could be a good in-between idea. I do think in reality terms though it's always up to ppl's wallets if people boycott one for AI art and just don't buy into it that TCG will die very fast, though if the TCG is done really well and ppl think it's too cool anyway then it will success. Which actually might be a good argument that companies couldn't just get away with a cheap lazy job even if AI was used as ppl would just not buy it. And it would actually take a lot more effort to get ppl to buy into a AI TCG as it would need way more convincing reasons to like it so you could overlook that fact.