Pete’s knife sharpening
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NEW - Tradesman EDGE Professional Sharpener - Cuttermaster. 2024
I just recieved my updated Edge Professional from Cuttermaster. See how adaptable it really is for any style of sharpening.
It has many redesigned features and the perfect balance of speed and power. This could be the last most versital sharpening machine you will ever buy. Jeff Toysen (owner) now has them on the shelf ready to ship.
Before ordering your Edge contact me to get real world advice and available options that will fit with your sharpening technique.
By contacting me with any questions before you place your order with Cuttermaster you will be qualifyed to receive the same "Laser Jig" I show in the video free of charge as a Thank You for helping support my channel. You just need to order an Edge and/or two Resin Diamond wheels from Cuttermaster to qualify.
The laser comes with - one focusing laser, the power supply and a adjustable
stand. (not shown in video) If you need a flexible extended stand like mine I can help you source the parts you need to buy on Amazon.
--contact information--
Pete's Knife Sharpening
"text" 1.818.257.2051
"email" peteragick@icloud.com
In person live demos are available in the Los Angeles area.
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Video

CUTTERMASTER Tradesman Edge 4 Month Review
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This is the most versatile knife grinding and sharpening machine Iv'e ever used. If you are interested Call Jeff Toysen - cuttermasters.com - 800-417-2171 - cuttermaster@gmail.com
Are you selling undetected Micro Burrs to your customers? My journey to deliver burr free knives.
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I used a technique to remove the most elusive burr. The Micro Burr. Seeing or feeling may be hard to do. This video shows how I collected the info to deliver sharper knives, without any Micro Burrs left behind. It's like walking a very thin line. (UPDATE)- I've been having my restaurant chefs stop by and let me know that the last time I sharpened their knives they were way better, And to keep i...
The Best 10" Wet Sharpener available. This wet/dry belt grinder does it all better than Tormek.
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If you think Tormek is a great wet sharpener have a look at my new sharpening system. It has 2- 10"X2" diamond resin wheels, 2- 2X42" belts and all can run wet or dry. It runs forward or reverse. Fast 1000 rpm or slow it down to 200 rpm. The belts can lay flat or quickly swing to vertical, forward or back. The custom designed DC motor is extremely torque so if you like to use pressure you can. ...
Mandoline Blade Sharpening
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Mandoline blades are easy enough to sharpen. Here is how I do them with out cutting my arm off.
UPDATE.- Shun knife Pits explained in more detail.
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This is a follow up to the Video about repairing a Shun knife pits and why they aren't chips!
Shun Knife badly pitted and missing a tip repair. 2 minutes process.
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This is the first of a new style of videos for me. I needed to figure out a faster way to make useful videos. So hope you like the new format. This one will show you how fast you can fix and sharpen a damaged knife. At farmers many knives aren't in the best condition and your customers don't want to wait for them so speed makes you figure out how to keep the quality and still stay fast.
JET stone VS TORMEK sg250 review / comparison
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How does the JET wet grinder stone to the TORMEK sg250 stone? (whetstone) Review Tormek is the most expensive but is it really the best? This is my follow up to my WEN stone review.
TORMEK VS WEN STONE comparison SD 480p
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Tormeks SG 250 stone now costs $220. While WEN's cost $35. Is Tormeks actually better or is it just more expensive?
Tormek Wet Grinder with Diamond Grind Wheel WoodTurners Wonders 200 Grit
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I'm a Professional Knife Sharpener. I have done over 53,000 knives. Ive used up 17 Wet stones on my Tormek. Now for the first time I am trying out a Diamond Grind wheel (CBN) Made by WoodTurners Wonders WOODTURNERSWONDERS.COM
Starting a Knife Sharpening Business - PART4 "Getting Work"
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Presuming you already watched 1-3 your ready to start getting customers. This video shows how to do that. It also has a supplier who sells high end knives wholesale with low minimums to knife sharpeners. This lets you make even more money from your customers. To see the longer video click here and scroll to bottom of the page for the video - www.hertzmann.com/articles/2015/perfect/ To look at k...
Starting a Knife Sharpening Business. Part 3 - Scissor Sharpening.
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Starting a Knife Sharpening Business. here is Part 3 Scissor sharpening. After you have mastered the info in part 1-3 you are ready to start a business. wether full time or part time hobby job.Future videos will cove ways to get clients.
Starting a Knife Sharpening Business PART 2 SERRATED Knives
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SERRATED KNIVES Sharpening - This series will have all the information you need to Start a Sharpening Business. Whether going FULL TIME or just a HOBBY JOB. "Part 2" will show you two ways to sharpen Serrated knives fast. Later episodes will also show how the different sharpening business option work. Subscribe so you don't miss out on any of the future videos.
Starting a Knife Sharpening Business - PART 1
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If you are thinking of starting a Knife Sharpening Business from STEP ONE. This is your video. If you already have equipment and sharpening skills subscribe so you will get the next videos that will cover how to start a Sharpening business as full time work or as a Hobby Job for extra cash.
KNIFE THINNING -15 min Process & More details on a Killer Belt Sander Modification.
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I picked up a knife with some problems to do this video with. It has a poorly shaped edge and is extreamly thick. This video not only shows how to Thin a knife but also has A Belt Sander Mod to die for. Plus tip to use when surfacing sides of the knife. And my "Knife a Minute" Sharpening Process. All packed in this one video!
WEN Update & Viewer TIP
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WEN Update & Viewer TIP
Reversing a bench grinder Plus Bonus video covering Why!
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Reversing a bench grinder Plus Bonus video covering Why!
Single Bevel Repair and GREAT Sander Modification.
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Single Bevel Repair and GREAT Sander Modification.
Tormek Grading Stone Hack for under 3 Buckaroos!
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Tormek Grading Stone Hack for under 3 Buckaroos!
Popup Trailer Conversion to Vending Trailer
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Popup Trailer Conversion to Vending Trailer
Knives Dull to Razor Sharp in 1 minuite
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Knives Dull to Razor Sharp in 1 minuite
TORMEK vs WEN - 12 YEARS as a pro, 53,000 Knives Sharpened!
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TORMEK vs WEN - 12 YEARS as a pro, 53,000 Knives Sharpened!
Trueing a heavily out of round grind stone
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Trueing a heavily out of round grind stone
12 year old Tormek- 53,000 knives sharpened
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12 year old Tormek- 53,000 knives sharpened
A Dead Rat just hanging out in my pool "WEIRD"
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A Dead Rat just hanging out in my pool "WEIRD"

Komentáře

  • @Chrispy624
    @Chrispy624 Před 2 dny

    Standing on business 🔥💯🧬🪲

  • @adrianhochmann3091
    @adrianhochmann3091 Před 5 dny

    maybe it helps but check out knife grinders Australia he has numbers in the lower part of 2 digits. it is bonkers an imho nobody does it more nerdy and scientifically than this dude. good luck

  • @tholsinger
    @tholsinger Před 8 dny

    Can you put the link to the laser ?

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 8 dny

      search this on amazon. Red Line Laser 650nm Diode Module Adjustable Beam Level Marking Positioning 5V Adapter

  • @Musicpins
    @Musicpins Před 8 dny

    Hey Pete, I've had the the wheel come a little loose one time, you mention this in the video - with the old locking "knobs" I think the pin must not have been properly set in the open slot I'm not sure, just happy I noticed before it came all the way loose. Anyway you said you had a fix for it would you elaborate on that? Nice to see you going good, I spoke to some people though they said the new Apex wouldn't be in the store before 2025? I can see they have the ones with the new axle now but is that also with the new AC brushless motor?

  • @CrimeVid
    @CrimeVid Před 10 dny

    Slide your fingers on a newly sharpened knife ? Yes you can but never along it, across it is correct, you can easily feel a burr. You are just feeling with the ridges in your fingerprint, and by how easily the edge catches the ridges. Somehow the sharper the knife the crisper the edge feels.

  • @budmonk2819
    @budmonk2819 Před 11 dny

    Is this the Wen BG4270T thats featured in the video?

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 11 dny

      @@budmonk2819 the numbers change. It was reversible. I don’t think the changes to the number reflect any actual changes to the machine.

  • @oneshotaddictedlolshorts7864

    i want this edited

  • @dennismullens41
    @dennismullens41 Před 16 dny

    I take it back! The Tradesman Edge system is $2,675.00. Too much for my poor blood!

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 16 dny

      @@dennismullens41 I understand the cost is high but it’s professional quality and if you’re sharpening enough it’s completely worth it.

  • @dennismullens41
    @dennismullens41 Před 16 dny

    Wow! Great information! I’m looking to do a retirement supplement side gig, and this set-up looks like the best! Of course, whatever I can do to supplement your profits, I will. Does the tool rest come with an angle guide, by the way?

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 15 dny

      @@dennismullens41 it has the tool rest but you need to buy Tormek jigs. Cuttermaster just decided to change the dc motor to 2 hp brushless ac they are being built now

  • @tankkipegun
    @tankkipegun Před 17 dny

    English or spanish ahh rat💀💀

  • @KennethRomanyshyn
    @KennethRomanyshyn Před 18 dny

    Hi Pete! I certainly enjoy your videos. Great stuff! As a fellow sharpener and so to be Tradesman Edge Apex BOW owner, I just want to find out if your neoprene honing wheel has experienced any mishape from the tensioned belt when thinning knives on it? Let me know how the neoprene wheel is holding up? Thanks, Pete.

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 18 dny

      @@KennethRomanyshyn it’s holding up fine but when I shot the last video I had my new contact wheel. It has a soft neoprene 1/2” thick wheel. It’s better but not available. The one cuttermaster has worked fine as a stand in before I got the thicker one. Remember to contact me before ordering your edge. You will receive the laser I used in the video as a thank you

    • @KennethRomanyshyn
      @KennethRomanyshyn Před 18 dny

      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Thanks for your response on the honing wheel holding up under belt tension. I had a Multitool 2x36 setup, but I left my belt tensioned up over a weekend, and it totally flattened my rubber contact wheel to smithereens. I just don't want to repeat that issue with a new Edge Apex neoprene honing wheel. Thank you for your kind offer of your laser; but my new machine was ordered before I came across your CZcams page. Actually, my machine arrives tomorrow afternoon.... I can't wait to set it up and learn to use it well. Keep up the good work, Pete. You have a fan from the great white north ... about 1500 miles northwest of you. Cheers!

  • @DavidParker-q8y
    @DavidParker-q8y Před 18 dny

    Pete! Amazing trailer! Would you be willing to share how you built those fold out awnings?

  • @iSharpen
    @iSharpen Před 19 dny

    This is great work. Thanks for showing the whole procedure. How much would you charge for this repair?

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 19 dny

      @@iSharpen depends $30?

    • @iSharpen
      @iSharpen Před 19 dny

      @@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Sounds right. Translates to about $50 down here.

  • @iSharpen
    @iSharpen Před 19 dny

    I like watching build videos so all your trailer builds are appreciated here. The more details the better as far as I'm concerned. I'm not mobile yet but I'd like to be one day.

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 19 dny

      @@iSharpen check out “Peter built IT” look at custom boat build & e-bike sidecar. It’s not sharpening related but if you like builds you might like my other channel.

    • @iSharpen
      @iSharpen Před 19 dny

      @@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER awesome!

  • @tholsinger
    @tholsinger Před 20 dny

    Based on your review I ordered an apex with two belt over wheel attachments. This was several weeks ago before this post. I mentioned your post to them and referenced it as how I wanted mine to be set up. If you need details about the order I can provide them. FYI my right hand BOW came damaged my left hand shaft came milled to shallow and I wasn't able to tighten the insert until I ground about an eighth of an inch off of the set screw and the small wheel on the left BOW was so wobbly I ended up replacing it as well. All the problems are now fixed and it works great. If it doesn't work out for you to send me a laser can you give me the Amazon reference?

  • @robohippy
    @robohippy Před 23 dny

    I first saw these at a woodturning convention 10 or more years ago. I think they were originally developed for resharpening the carbide bits for the CNC machines. Diamond wheels, even on slow speed/1760 rpm, would degrade quickly because of heat build up. Never got one, but their CBN wheels were very good too.

  • @davidnevins4883
    @davidnevins4883 Před 23 dny

    Just ask them for a code / discount code. Something like Pete’s Sharpening then they know who sent them a customer and can pay you accordingly plus even give us a discount at the same time. Good luck and thx for the info.

  • @Eeyor_5
    @Eeyor_5 Před 23 dny

    Even in death he still stands

  • @carycleland9506
    @carycleland9506 Před 23 dny

    There’s zero reason to spend this much money on this.

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 23 dny

      Why buy a tower at $12,000.00? Because it’s the fastest. I’d say this machine isn’t as fast but very close and it can do many different styles of sharpening as your process evolves. And if you have a customer base that keeps you busy the investment pays for itself. All that said I’m just guessing you’re clients arn’t making you wish you could sharpen more knives in a day or your preference is to hand sharpen with whetstones and damn how long it takes. Which garners my respect.

  • @ephraimsilberberg708
    @ephraimsilberberg708 Před 23 dny

    GREAT STUFF

  • @jakyedudley370
    @jakyedudley370 Před 24 dny

    When someone says English or spanish

  • @jaredcrusen3072
    @jaredcrusen3072 Před 25 dny

    I'm hoping to call Jeff and order mine tomorrow. I've had family in the ER last week, but thank you for taking the time and chatting with me about this Pete. I'm looking forward to seeing what this machine can do!

  • @Autistic_Retard69
    @Autistic_Retard69 Před 25 dny

    Rare footage of micha swimming

  • @jerrywiese9722
    @jerrywiese9722 Před 25 dny

    Great Update on your setup. I like very much. Thanks for what you do for the community

  • @johannesTMP
    @johannesTMP Před 25 dny

    Nice video! ... but tormek is made in Sweden 😉

  • @mcgeedigital
    @mcgeedigital Před 25 dny

    Great overview. Saving to get one of these now.

  • @ALXSHARPEN
    @ALXSHARPEN Před 25 dny

    Nice looking machine

  • @mychikbad
    @mychikbad Před 25 dny

    Glad you’re using a respirator! I highly recommend the 3M quick latch respirator for easy on/off

  • @1998TDM
    @1998TDM Před 26 dny

    I've been thinking about ways to make my portable sharpening more efficient, well, doing more with less. Lo and behold this pops up. The machine of my dreams! It ticks all the boxes and some I hadn't thought of. As my wee business progresses and a few dollars accrue this is on the list to replace the Tormek. Have to look into getting one to NZ, power supply etc. Love the laser, definitely a faster, accurate, free hand idea. I wonder if they need a Southern Hemisphere outlet... Lol

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 25 dny

      Im sure they have similar for your power. When I bought mine it was just 2 10” wheels. Now it so much better. Tormek is very aware of this machine. Send me a way to send you a picture of the laser. You will find it.

    • @patlemay8006
      @patlemay8006 Před 16 dny

      @@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Hi Peter!, Pat from Cuttermasters here. Great Video! Love the montage and I'm flattered by the compliments. We can offer a 240volt version for our European and New Zealand Friends.

  • @GlennLaguna
    @GlennLaguna Před 26 dny

    Awesome setup Pete! Your Cuttermaster looks great and Jeff could not have found a better person to give them input on the design.

  • @leadingedgeknifeandtoolsha4128

    great video!!! i love the laser guided thinning idea

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 25 dny

      It’s even better than i said. The knife I thinned on camera was only the 4th one I did. And like the other 3 it was perfect.

  • @tacousa87
    @tacousa87 Před 26 dny

    i really like this machine will call you soon

  • @joshuacassella6451
    @joshuacassella6451 Před 26 dny

    Thanks for the video Pete! I have about 700 knives on my Edge Apex and I’m loving it!

  • @iSharpen
    @iSharpen Před 26 dny

    Cool machine! I'd love one but after checking the price I've calculated I might have to rob a few small banks to be able to afford it. I love the versatility of it. I'm a "Tormek people" but I've been thinking about expanding my tools. By the time it gets down here it'll be close on five grand and that's a bit hard for me to justify at the moment. Might have to settle for one of those cool aprons...or get better at marketing.

    • @thomask837
      @thomask837 Před 26 dny

      Australia?

    • @iSharpen
      @iSharpen Před 26 dny

      @@thomask837 Yep. Straight conversion is $4,000 plus shipping and taxes and I'll need something to convert it to 240v. $5k easily.

    • @Musicpins
      @Musicpins Před 25 dny

      They do make a 240V version, send them an email. I imported one to europe and it is so worth it.

    • @iSharpen
      @iSharpen Před 25 dny

      @@Musicpins It does look like fun.

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 20 dny

      I think they will ship. Mention I sent you and qualify for the Laser.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Před 26 dny

    Do you still use the CBN wheels at all for just belts now? I was intrigued by this machine before the upgrades, so I'm extra interested now!

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 26 dny

      I found with heavy volume the cbn/ diamond wear out to fast. You get 1 layer of grit. The resin wheels as they wear they present fresh diamonds. The 2000 grit one I have hasn't changed thickness at all that I can see and its sharpened about 4000 knives

    • @BladeLabMiami
      @BladeLabMiami Před 26 dny

      @@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Will the resin-bonded wheels fit on a Tormek?

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Před 26 dny

    Wow, amazing setup! Looks like you're getting pretty dialed in now.

  • @kvernesdotten
    @kvernesdotten Před 28 dny

    Considering this is 3x the price of a Tormek, I would really expect it to be better it every single way too tbh

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 28 dny

      it is far faster and more flexible in how you use it. Im working on a video explaining all the ways you can use it.

  • @almanages
    @almanages Před 28 dny

    Quick tip for you Pete, be careful with a loose rag around your grinder especially on the buffer side. If the wheel catches your rag it will bunch up inside the cover and wheel and might cause a divot on your wheel that is sometime hard to true sometimes.

  • @mcgeedigital
    @mcgeedigital Před 29 dny

    What grit are the two resin wheels you are using?

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před 29 dny

      100 & 2000. I’m using the 2000 a lot more. If you’re buying anything from cuttermaster contact me first. They donate to my channel. You won’t pay any more but if buy enough from them I will send you the laser I use instead of jigs. You can call me if you have any questions. 8182572051.

  • @plushstudiosrt3dx
    @plushstudiosrt3dx Před 29 dny

    COME AS YOU ARE

  • @user-zv9kx6jn8x
    @user-zv9kx6jn8x Před 29 dny

    Bought a TAS about 25 years ago. Sharpened a few $500 shears using white wheel and silicone carbide wheel. Didn't want to but they begged and they were happy with them. Why it didn't ruin them don't know. Pinking sheers shouldn't be sharpening past the darker lap line. Buying new ones try them before you pay for them on the kind of fabric you will use them on. Seems like it was 10% of pinking sheers are defective from the factory. Sharpen regular scissors both blades. Always deburred bottom blade edge trailing then used scissor lube and gentlely close them a few times. Charged 2.00 a pair. Also sharpened knives on the white wheel free hand trailing edge. Deburred on silicon wheel, a piece of wood and a leather strap. 1.00 a knife. Also pizza rockers for Pizza Hut. For about 15 years used a Harbor Freight 1×30 for machetes, lawnmower blades, sickles. But the main business was copying keys and car opening and some locksmithing. All done in an old Kodak photo booth. Work area 4 foot by 6 foot. Clinton Iowa. Oops forgot sharpened many large drill bits for Ralston Purina on a Drex M5. Sorry to ramble on so long. 78 years old now. Didn't often make minimum wage after expenses but it was a good place to share Jesus with people that wanted to hear. God bless you folks.

  • @mochithatdarncat
    @mochithatdarncat Před měsícem

    i got eyes in the back of my head and i know where you go 🗣️

  • @user-rg2yo7ii3i
    @user-rg2yo7ii3i Před měsícem

    “IM STILL STANDING” ahh pose

  • @gabrielsmit7733
    @gabrielsmit7733 Před měsícem

    Patience..... and that round edge is also on my whetstones, a must, thanks!

  • @Jason_Carnes
    @Jason_Carnes Před měsícem

    Over at "Never a Dull Moment", there is a two part video with Hap Stanley going through his Nano Hone system where he talks a LOT, I mean a LOT about the burr.

  • @Jason_Carnes
    @Jason_Carnes Před měsícem

    Nice video, very humble personality. I found your video because I was doing repeated searches for "microscope" "knife" "blade" "edge". I am trying to decide which digital microscope to get for looking at a knife edge for analysis. If you end up doing a video presentation on any gear, I recommend you put in the brand and model number in your title. Example, Andonstar AD249S-P. The reasoning is, if I am searching amazon for a andonstar, or digital microscope, a LOT will come up and there are just so many models. So I will start doing CZcams searches on specific model to see if anyone has done a video, specifically in relations to knife sharpening. So if you did a video, "Andonstar AD249S-P Digital Microscope for Knife Blade Edge Sharpening". You are going to get a LOT of views.

  • @llamawizard
    @llamawizard Před měsícem

    Ever try the paper wheel system?

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před měsícem

      Yes I did. I even tried it again recently. Many love it. Perhaps if I stuck with it perhaps I’d like it more.

  • @llamawizard
    @llamawizard Před měsícem

    How do you sharpen recurve blades?

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před měsícem

      Slack part of belt or on the edges of resin diamond wheels. They are rounded. The more curved hookbill ones are tougher.

  • @theangrynerd101
    @theangrynerd101 Před měsícem

    Bro woke up dead

  • @liquidrockaquatics3900
    @liquidrockaquatics3900 Před měsícem

    Holy crap! I didn’t even know wen made this

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před měsícem

      I used my first one for a couple years before I bought a second to replace my worn out Tormek. It has a 2 year warranty. I bent an arbor and called to order a replacement. They sent it for free even though I said I bent it. And if i had to buy it it was only $11. far less than any part on the tormeks

    • @liquidrockaquatics3900
      @liquidrockaquatics3900 Před měsícem

      @@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER I was just thinking for that price point you could set up a grinder with a separate wheel for each grit if you wanted to and one for each compound if you had a sharpening shop or specialty business

    • @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER
      @FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Před měsícem

      @@liquidrockaquatics3900 that’s the idea. I’ve got a used Tormek SJ250 for sale for your second wen.