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It can lead to less weight on the front wheel which in turn leads to less control and under steer. I run my bars higher than just about everyone I know. Dak might have me beat but not by much. Ha.

I wonder if the unusually short stem could be a factor. I’ve tried and could not make them work for me.

@@Nile49 depending on the bike I’ll run between 35-50. This was within the normal range. The stack height is really high. I think that’s a big part of it.

@@bikersedge did you swap it? Spec sheet says 30mm. Thanks

Thanks! I appreciate the kind words.

Not sure. I haven’t ridden the rise yet.

very different bikes, I own the Rise but going to switch for the Dune soon

I use the Hero 12 for the POV and a Sony a7sIII for the other stuff.

I would also really like one of those. The more bikes the merrier.

We’ve got some goods here in Utah.

To be honest I set up so many bikes in any given week I can remember what I’ve done for setup. I should be better at writing that stuff down.

We’ve got a lightweight EMTB showdown in the works. We don’t carry specialized though so won’t be able to include the Kenevo.

Glad you liked it!

Hey, thanks. I didn't notice it much at all on this one. Some bikes accentuate the sound more than others though.

As mentioned it does seem to be bike/individual motor related but others have said its essentially the same as the CX downhill noise wise.

@@Nile49 I really want the dune but the motor clunk/rattle is a real problem for for

@@K1ngJame5-mtb yea a real shame to see new motors that still have this behavior

it does not have any rattle, if anyone claims that, it is false. I had the bike for a full day and heard nothing on the downhill. Uphill it is not the most silent (TQ), but more silent then the EP8(RS)

It's a really big component of the MX setup. It's not everything, but you're not getting the full handling benefit without it.

@@bikersedge the other way aroud If you want the benefits of a mullet you need larger rear center its needed to transfer more weight to the front tire (the gripy one) otherwise you end up with what you said in the video(traction problems in the rear) You can sea this developement in many DH worldcup bikes, the SC Nomad....

@@harrie205 I mean you’re not wrong with the weight distribution. I’m referring to the quick handling benefits that people are after with an MX setup. That comes from having a shorter overall wheelbase and rear center. I’d imagine getting the balance nailed is the biggest piece of the puzzle.

There haven’t been a lot of new pedal bikes released lately. That’s probably why you haven’t seen many lately.

Dont watch then? Ebikes sell like crazy so obviously dealers and manufacturers are loaning them out for reviews. I really don't undertand the hatred for them, it only seems to exist online because on the trails everyone seems to love them.

@@Bueller611 you should come ride in park city then. Haha. There’s plenty of hate for them in some areas around us. I don’t understand the haters. Choose to not ride one if you don’t like them.

@@bikersedge I heard that as well. I saw a lot of that where I ride but it seams to have died off as more and more hit the trails.

@@stevenschiff808 it’s certainly changing but I think there’s still a lot of progress to be made.

That would be great for the really tall folks.

No problems with dropper height/length for me. I think the Heckler is much more versatile in terms of not dumbing down easier terrain. The Dune is more capable in the rough, but I don't know if it's more capable in the rough than the Heckler is good on the easy stuff.

I think the versatility of the Dune is brilliant for such a big bike. It feels more nimble then the Megatower or the Nukeproof Mega. It even feels more nimble then my own 150/140 Gen1 Rise, which is very odd and very welcome at the same time. Only when you go very slow, you realize that it is not a fun little trail bike. I prefer the Dune over any other bike I have ridden, unless on a flow trail. That said, I've heard from a few people (independently of each other) that the Heckler SL is the best bike in fun factor they have ever ridden, going to test that soon to make up my own mind. These two are also on my short list, together with one bike coming in early July I am not allowed to talk about yet. Guess I'll decide until end of July once I've tested all 3 of them thoroughly

@@Manu_Air228 thanks for sharing. I think this will be my next bike but it’s so hard to pull the trigger given the rate at which the market is changing right now and that these bikes are so expensive and depreciate so fast. I have only parking lot tested the Heckler SL but can reiterate that it’s handling is incredibly natural and regular mtb like. It’s certainly on the shortlist. It does seem like the enduro sl emtb category is ready for new entrants from a number of manufacturers. Heard rumors of a lightweight Rocky which would be interesting to me. Sounds like next year though.

GoPro Hero 12. Thanks!

@@bikersedgewith the max lens?

Yup.

Agreed.

I rode the Foxy briefly earlier this year. Really nice suspension feel like this one. Don’t have enough for a full review though.

Hey thanks!

I’m probably the last guy to ask about XC racing. Not something I’ve done a lot of. The Oiz is the fastest climber of that bunch with the most efficient suspension design though. If the descents are gnarly both the BC40 and the ASR are more forgiving.

Yup. Thats the biggest difference.

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I don’t know if either of those two will get close to trail bike feeling on the DH. They’re still XC bikes for me. The Ripley could be good. I think the Spur or Element could also fill that spot.

I hesitate to give out size advice over the internet. It’s unreliable and a crapshoot at best. My advice would be to try riding each size before buying.

No it doesn’t. The anthem is much more XC.

Not sure. Haven’t heard anything.

​@@bikersedgealso David Arthur is teasing the new Anthem .

Not really a bike park on the traditional sense. It’s a ski resort with a few trails open in the summer PCMR in park city.

Hey thanks! I think the TB would be a great compliment to your mega.

Haven’t ridden Asheville. From the looks of it some of the trails in the area seem fairly high speed and open. I don’t think you could go wrong with either this or the 140.

Hey thanks!

Haven’t ridden the newest Bronson. Wouldn’t be able to say.

I honestly think it’s barely matters at the end of the day.

I’ve done them before in the past.

Depends on the trail but I’d do the Heckler or Relay for most of the big stuff down there.

@@bikersedge Does your shop have any relay or heckler demos for sale to save a little money?

@@DK-wd8ju it’s definitely worth a call.

It’s really an amazing bike so glad I got it setting up. The flight attendant was a little confusing but now works fine.

You can de tune any of them for more range.

Hey thanks. I think the Instinct is a little less well rounded than the HT3. It’s slacker and easier to get into the travel I think.

I’m heading to Bellingham this summer. Maybe I’ll see if I can snag one for a bit while I’m there.

@@bikersedge yeehaw 🔥

Sounds like your trails would be better on the trance

@@bikersedge thanks for taking the time out to reply. I think you are right. That 24 Trance X in your review looks the business!

A lot of those characteristics are contradictory. They’re opposite ends of the same spectrum. The best you’ll be able to do is find something that offers the right balance of all those characteristics and aligns with your riding style.

Very different. The LT rides way bigger and harder. Quite a bit slower on the climbs too.

@@bikersedge good point thank you. Struggling with the purple on the x ugh