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Stuff like Autism (Asperger's) doesn't have a clear cut definition from research yet. Its probably a combination of brain types, so saying people are or aren't "aspergers"/"just engineers" is a bit of a moot point. Still its an important topic but I just wish the research etc would get there quicker, so we can all have more clarity. I think theres lots of people in older generations who are doing fine but have the 'neurodiverse' genes without them or others knowing it. Similar woth ADHD & dyslexia to name a couple more. And not to mention neurotypes that haven't been researched or pathologised.

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Its very related😫

Its very very related 😢, and also underachiever i live in a conservative society!!! 😣

Every thing is very related😫

Thank you for saying that you do not need to be smarter than your 2E kiddo, including them in problem solving and instilling the idea of having fun and allowing them to teach you!☺️

Love hooking the kids into helping solve their own problems, so that they can be successful learners. 😊

Any updates Post Covid? Especially regarding its effects on Kids and parents in 2023.

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People who 'wish' their kids were gifted do not understand all of the challenges that occur when they 'get what they want'....

This almost made me cry because it took me back to being a kid who never felt like his gifts were supported and everything was about how to fit in. What made it worse is that I was never told I was gifted so I felt SO different, fake and mentally mixed-up for trying to conform to behaviors that never made much sense and I had NO IDEA why they would NEVER come naturally to me or "make sense". I only recently self-identified and it's been very powerful but also a LOT to process.

i was labeled ocd od d bipolar depressed for enforicng human rightshumanitarian refugee law i taught myself the nine UN human rights treaties universal declaration of human rights internationalcovenant on civil and political rights international covenant on economic social and cultural rights convention on the elimination of all forms of racial discrimination, convention ont he eliminationj of all forms of discrimination against women, covnention against torture, convention on teh rights of persons with disabilities conventiuon on the rights of persons with disabilities then i taught myself thre regioinal human rights treaties of the african union, organizaiton of american states, and the council of europe african charter on peopels and human rights, maputo protocol on the rights of women in africa, african charter on the rights and welfare of the hcild, african disability protocol, african youth charter, european covnention on human rights, eujropean social charter, european convention to prevent andpunish torutre, euroepan convention onenforced idsappernace, interamerican convention on human rights interamerican convention on prevent and punish tortre, interamerican conentjon on enfroced idsapperance, and the geneva and hague conventions the 1951 refugee convention, delcaration on indigneous people

i was diagnosed aspergers for studyin geography ocd odd bipolar depressed for enforcing a masters level understnading ofhuman rights humanitarin refugee law apparently learning to defendmy beautiful african model wife in the maputo protocolis a mental illness learning to fight properly is amentalilliness defending refugees ia mental illness

i was diagnosed ocd odd bipolar depressed for enforcing a masters levelunderstanding of human rights humanitarian law refugee law i was diagnosed aspergers for studying geography

You are like my father that I never had

Yeah that's definitely me lmao. The 10 year old kid who got pulled out of class to go to math and spelling competitions, whilst simultaneously writing with one of those rubber triangles on and constantly getting marked down because my writing wasn't legible and because my teachers hated me for falling asleep in their class.

Теперь я понял что я довольно средний ребенок

Id didnt really in depth

I discovered i am a Gifted Youth now am 26 yo. #Brazil

This was so helpful!!

i was labeled ocd odd bipolar depressed for enforcing a masters level understanding of human rights humanitarian criminal refugee law standard Upeace masters program

Great talk! We live in Brazil, so we have to deal on a daily day basis with violence, political instability, among others issues. My son and husband both are 2 E. As a meditator I try to make them focus at the present. It’s challenging

I was labeled ocd odd bipolar depressed for enforcing a masters level understanding of human rights humanitarian criminal refugee law I recited the Univeristy of peace masters program by heart ininternational human rihgts law by heart

Still need to understand my son. He is diagnosed Asperger/Adhd/Tag but since he gows up, now, 11 yrs old, after a pandemic, he seems gifted. Teachers don’t know how to deal with him. Therapists don’t know how to help him. People tend to tell to medicate him. I think we will travel to Cali to have him treated at Summit.

Lol I just watch this shit to feed my ego tbh

Such a great comment about learning to work hard. My undergrad was at a liberal arts school known for cranking out med students and successful doctors. While we didn't rank extremely high, our school was known for a very heavy reading and writing work load every week in all subjects. If you were to succeed, you needed to adapt to such a heavy workload. Thx for these insights.

So many boxes on that list are checked with my 7yr old. Just kind of take it for granted. This is very helpful.

Your speaking about my Eli to a T. This is comforting, reassuring and heart breaking! I’ve been struggling with public school since his first day! Not only is Eli physically different (born missing femurs bi-lateral) but intellectually he’s always been WAY above his level. He’s developed severe Tourette’s behaviors because he’s tried so hard to fit into a box he just never will.

You get it! Thank you!

Did you notice the audience? Bored out of their mind and thinking of other things like: "When is lunch?", "When is the next break?", "This speaker is boring as sheet", etc...

Did any notice how he sniffled his nose when someone's phone rang😂 to anyone reading yes I am greatly gifted at age 26 in 2022

the amount of mothers in that room💀

thanks so much!

This describes both of my sons quite well. The older one, nearly 100%. Maybe not unusually long attention span, but everything else. Specifically, he had 30 words at 12 months, used "actually" at about 3.5 years, and all other points. He is now 10 and in beginning algebra for HS credit. My younger son hits most of these, as well, including acute observation, understanding nuance, and knowing things no one tried to teach.

My English is self-taught. I did so when I was 11. Read historical novels, wrote short stories, always understood other people's feelings and even cried often because I couldn't help those in need. I was always bored with small talk and tedious taks. I remember ridiculous amounts of things. Pick up a lot of new skills very easily... But everything bores me and my perfectionism gets in the way of achieving things sometimes. Connecting to others can be a drag but I've learned to relax a little bit.

Age 9, I attended an assessment , there was evidence of dyspraxia, ADHD and Aspergers traits. I have a degree, postgraduate qualification, professional qualification. I received a non - standard diagnosis of Aspergers traits aged 25 , no major problems from childhood. I was told I had dyspraxia aged 23. I received a diagnosis of dyspraxia, privately aged 33. The GP would not accept the report because I had to get the diagnosis privately. I had a nervous breakdown to get my ADHD detected in February 2020. I received a diagnosis of ADHD privately in Birmingham, 100 miles from my home. in August 2020 aged 41. I attended a private school , 2nd highest a level results in 1995 , unsuitable in several ways

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I really wish i was in this meeting

i was labeled ocd odd bipolar depressed schizophrenic for neforcinghuman rights humanitarian criminal refugee law and yes i am passionate about this my dream job is the International Criminal Court my best friend Sabina Carlson organized a protest about the darfur genocide and I decided ot put an end to genocide myself personally that requires going to the International Criminal COurt (which is why i learned ht six un languges, Arabic Chinese English French Russian and Spanish) my other dream is to start a NGo for human right sin Africa (African Charter on Peopeles and Human Rights, African Youth CHarter, African Disability Protocol, Maputo Protocl ont ehr ights of women HTe maputo protocol is very important because how I defend my Malawian wife)

I thought not being able to plan ahead is sighn of the opposite intellegence. So now its confusing

Now that I am an adult (luckily Chenango county in N.Y. went from gifted classes, enrichment program, and then in 5th & 6th grade it was called Zoo where we no longer had our " group" sessions) and any other person's somewhat oblivious of what differences in our perception comparable to "neurotypicals".... I'd say more but I'd sound crazy "not dyslexic" hyperlexic"...

I was in a mathematics class in second grade, and I had finished my book. I told the teacher, and she said that it shouldn't have been done until end of third grade. This was the moment I lost interest in school. I also was pissed off that the teacher we had accepted grammatical errors and misspelling. It was even words that is commonly used that was misspelled. I was eight, nine years old when my interest for school completely disappeared. Later I was diagnosed with Asperger, but truth is I hadn't made any friends because I didn't like kids my age. At the same time my emotional development was stunted. I couldn't relate well to other people, but I am completely the opposite of this introvert child today. Now, I am not super gifted, and my IQ only falls into the top 10 per cent, but school were torture and I stopped going. In secondary school, I barely went too and still passed everything. Today I have a law degree and work in the finance sector. I work in a highly social environment, and I thought for years that I was misdiagnosed. This makes a lot of sense.

I am a gifted child as I love learning, love reading, have good focus, good memory, quick learner, large vocabulary, highly sensitive, creative thinking, and I tend to have intense feelings and reactions. Then, I got bullied and they put me down by saying that I'm dumb, I wasn't clever enough and lost a lot of confidence.

The gifted people don't need it test , they know that they are intesly growing as a learner and seeking more learning in every moment or creating every moment. The iq test is for people who are trying to get a status update from what they were and how they are seen after hard work. Learning and creating comes in a flow in a gifted student. Gifted student does not stop . The biggest sign is the alertness and no obedience . They will deeply respect others but not obey anyone. Their standards of justice and Unconditional love are omnipresent . They don't have fear. If obedience comes with fear, they will reject it. If obedience comes in form of teacher helping them to see things....they will follow . Authenticity is the key to get into a gifted student . The more honest and fearless you are , the closer you can look inside a gifted student. Try being honest to everyone, and their giftedness will reveal...start to show

Pencil to paper is hard for gifted students, keyboards are not. Digital education now makes it lot easier to do school qork. The intensity of gifted that comes from inside makes it hard to hold the pencil in place, or not dig it deep on or to stop it in time 😀

I'm a twin. Not identical. We were both ID'd as gifted, but she was ID'd extremely young as verrry gifted because she mastered English at 3rd grade level when she was 6 in 1st grade. We began learning English when we were 4, and English wasn't our 1st language, so along with her "good student behavior", this was mainly why it was so obvious. On the other hand, I have ADHD and we both have complicated PTSD + a host of arrested developmental glitches (childhood physchopathology) from institutionalization beginning approximately at 3-4 months until we were adopted at 3.5yrs. We were so traumatized and malnourished (S. Korea during early - mid 70s) that we only weighed 23 and 21lbs with me as the bigger or "healthier" twin. I was also much better at general learning such as socializing, etc., while globally, or with weighted consideration of known measures at the time, she was considered seriously underdeveloped. But our environment in America + abusive adoptive family was just a continuation of abuse and trauma we'd already experienced. The difference in demonstrative response between my twin and I was that she appeared to be upset, but not necessarily rebellious or actively defying the abuse our parents inflicted on us. I took beatings for both of us and took a knife to my face at 9yrs old. I've never backed down from anyone at any age at any size when my sense of morality was violated. It didn't matter that I didn't know how to write a neat English word or sentence. Luckily, our parents had a huge collection of books. We were both voracious readers as soon as we learned English. We were reading novels 1000+pgs long before we were 10. However, though my twin excelled as a good learner very young, I struggled because (1) academic achievement wasn't my priority as it was hers (2) I have ADHD and extremely jagged ducked up handwriting (3) we're both artistically talented, but she has better motor function "1 for 1" with cognition so her writing represents her organized and neat spot on mind, or understanding/thinking (metacognition) while my mind races and jumps around with an intensity that is difficult to put into words. Metacognitively speaking, I excel more as a big picture, holistic, gestalt learner with an acute sensitivity towards existential concerns such as "why" and "how"...and over and above all else empathy and compassion for people, animals, bugs... I'm very intensely affected by suffering of anyone or thing I can identify as a living thing that can suffer. We are the kinds of kids who tell their parents at a very young age that we don't want to eat meat or animals and that people starving in other countries literally keeps us up at night. My twin always slept like a rock. I always stayed up late, exercised, and practiced my save the world speech. Interesting to finally understand. When I entered 5th grade I was approached by a guidance counselor and i thought I was in trouble (again). Instead she invited me to join the gifted and talented program. I had to give up art class in order to take in the extra work. I said "okay" but hated it because it was just my twin and about 7-10 other kids competing to answer questions or solve problems the quickest. I had and still have no desire whatsoever to compete with anyone for such a dubious honor such as answering a challenging algebra equation faster then a classmate. I quit that program after a week and was much happier with art class. I'm good at making stuff with my hands. If I can't be fixing or making or developing an idea that may only be valuable to me, then I'm fine with that. Also, frustrating none of us knew this stuff decades ago 😑.

This was me all my life in school

This was me in primary school always disrupting and distracting class because it was boring 😂

Alot of this is what's called cognitive flexibility, it's taking a concept and allowing it to change an adapt itself to form a new concept that has it's original concepts and combines new concepts and interpretations.

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