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no backup plans is one of the only titan exotics i use and here are some reworks id love to see: overshield is too weak, so buff it at base and have shotgun kills give you an increasing resistance value and multikills increase the total health of your overshield (to a cap of around double its original health). The damage buff and resists gained from a shield lingers for a few seconds when the overshield is depleted. Killing powerful enemies generate an orb of power, and shotguns are strong against unstoppable champions On other subclasses we keep the damage resist on kills but drop the overshield and turn that into weapon synergy. Arc subclass when amplified blinds nearby targets on kill, solar scorches with restoration buff, strand severs with woven mail buff, stasis creates a large crystal with frost armor buff. These will have about 3.5 second cooldown before being able to be activated again, and you need to use a matching element. Also, kinetic weapon final blows will trigger a kinetic tremor. Lastly, when the subclass buff is active, your shotguns have extremely high handling, and ammo reserves are increased

Banner of War and Sunspots are the Titan identity. Lorelai Sunspots and Season of Wish banner is who we are. Titans are meant to survive shit. Dive in, take the brunt of the damage and just heal through it. And not to mention sunspots can be made to help the team, and banner just does that passively. That is the titan identity: staying alive. But Bungo doesn't like that. We're not supposed to solo dungeons just by having insane survivablity.

Goddamn this aged well with final shpe 😂

someone cooked here

How many bosses can actually have melee damage done to them? Does anyone have an actual number? Titans can barely use melees in general.

There will always be metas where certain classes shine. For the last year it's been banner oof war titan, now it's hunter's time to shine.

I'll fix titan right now. Bubble now gives unravel, volatile, scorch, jolt, slow, and kinetic tremors to their respective weapon damage types. Whenever the titan gets an overshield he gives overshields to nearby teammates and the titan gets volatile rounds. Fix the atrocious throwing shield tracking. Strand ability kills always give unravel and sever. While titan has wovenmail his strand weapon damage makes strandlings. Remove the ranged cooldown from the super and its now a juiced version of fletchetted storm. While amplified all arc weapon kills blind and extend the amplified timer. All jolt kills explode into pools of arc that collect orbs an ammo assuming you aren't full. Solar sunspots reload your weapons when you walk in and out of them. Sunspots apply meltingpoint to enemies and escalating scorch stacks based on how many sunspots are on a single target. Roaring flames gives handling and reload based on how many stacks you have. Reverse throwing hammer nerf. Stasis melee is replaced with bubble sized aeo that slows enemies and also shatters crystals. The melee is also replaced in the super with a massive radius that shatters crystals and slows. Getting kills with the melee refunds half the melee. Diamond lance freezes also make a crystal. Breaking crystals with the barricade grants frost armor based on how many you broke.

I'll fix titan right now. Bubble now gives unravel, volatile, scorch, jolt, slow, and kinetic tremors to their respective weapon damage types. Whenever the titan gets an overshield he gives overshields to nearby teammates and the titan gets volatile rounds. Fix the atrocious throwing shield tracking. Strand ability kills always give unravel and sever. While titan has wovenmail his strand weapon damage makes strandlings. Remove the ranged cooldown from the super and its now a juiced version of fletchetted storm. While amplified all arc weapon kills blind and extend the amplified timer. All jolt kills explode into pools of arc that collect orbs an ammo assuming you aren't full. Solar sunspots reload your weapons when you walk in and out of them. Sunspots apply meltingpoint to enemies and escalating scorch stacks based on how many sunspots are on a single target. Roaring flames gives handling and reload based on how many stacks you have. Reverse throwing hammer nerf. Stasis melee is replaced with bubble sized aeo that slows enemies and also shatters crystals. The melee is also replaced in the super with a massive radius that shatters crystals and slows. Getting kills with the melee refunds half the melee. Diamond lance freezes also make a crystal. Breaking crystals with the barricade grants frost armor based on how many you broke.

I have a better idea where instead of getting an overshield you should get a buff to your overall health so it works with things like devour

Its no use arguing, Bungie will just give hunters the tank role in a new subclass or something.

I think bungie should make subclass 4.0 and make all super like song of flame and I have so many ideas on what they can do to make them unique especially the roaming supers

I know it's a bit late for suggestions and ideas, but I've always wanted to see Titans become either the medieval knights/protectors of the city, relying on giving out buffs to either mitigate damage or mitigate death at times, like a leader's will to stand against adversity, or a heavy weapons expert who drowns an enemy force in gunfire or ordinance. I think this is why some of my favorite builds on titan as a titan main are void support with Ursa, or Prismatic Titan with Hazardous Propulsion. I do have fun putting on Heir Apparent with Actium War Rig, though, or running Salvation's Grip on Behemoth. Honestly, though, I would be fine with anything, even if we're not going to see any big changes to Titan until maybe Destiny 3, but I would love anything that gives an identity to the Titans again.

Commander/leader type archetype would be useful here. I think Titan appeals to people who want to be in charge. So something like ‘target designation’ where team mates are encouraged to coordinate their attacks with targets you mark to receive damage bonus. Also, I think the secondary appeal of Titan is its physique. The power fantasy is to be big, to negate damage, and to throw your weight around (greatswords, shields, hammers, axes, lances, demolitions). Some existing abilities do play into that. Strand Titan’s ‘banner’ aspect for example. Just need to do a bit more with it for the other classes. Missile arc titan is another decent effort, likewise Sentinel, and the hammers with healing from sunspots is nearly there. Behemoth running through crystals to shatter them = body as a weapon too.

I don't know how they would do it programming wise, but the pvp and PVE sandbox needs to be 100% separate. Let titans be a literal tank. Let our subclass synergy give us like a constant 90% damage reducing, no matter what subclasd were using but make the tradeoff something like we do less damage overall then other classes. Give titans a hero type feeling where we may not get the killing blow, but at kept the boss from getting one as well and let our warlocks buff our hunters to output as much damage as fast as possible. Or hell, an absolutely basic update you can do is make it so that in PVE only, we can shoot through ward of dawn, but cut it's uptime in half or something

Was so excited for drengers lash and horn but the horn perc is just so stupendously horrible the wave doesnt return when it hits a wall or anything else, it goes such a poor distance, the wave has such a small hitbox, it doesnt track etc its just sad

I wanna be a paladin/tank/support. I WANNA BE THE WALL I wanna be able to survive and withstand.... Not just punch shit

Did we mention how they NERFED stasis overall because of something titans could meme in pvp with the new GLOBAL TEAMWIDE FROST SHARD COOL DOWN?

Why is everyone limited to just one exotic armor and or weapon? Let it rip wide open!!!

I hate how Bungee don’t get the soldier/war machine/iron man fantasy with Titans

And I can still solo flawless every dungeon on my strand titan get good lmao

Maybe titans will finally get good by being in the shitter for a bit - a hunter main

Every hardcore titan main whines about hunter melee as if they weren’t the most dominant subclass for like a year straight throughout lightfall, pve and pvp, let us have our spotlight and quit complaining that you can’t stomp us in every conceivable way by crutching your abilities anymore.

Doom: the dark ages trailer perfectly represents how void Titan should be 😂

It's confusing as a Titan main that the only character in full armor gets out punched by the character in the dress or the other wearing the cape. Also, the lazy stomp mechanic by every heavy or boss is ridiculous. A hydra floats, but has a stomp? Great ponts, great video.

When titans slam down overshield barricade, it gives speed boost like amplified

watched this as i did college work, I really think titan should get a super that could be called like pocket armory that gives you a flag or something on your back like banner that lets you draw from your reserves for a short duration instead of having to reload while applying damage resistance like well but with dmg resistance instead of healing and not having to reload instead of a dmg boost

What’s sad is we aren’t gonna see the titans core identity revert to soldier or change to something else until D3. We’re too deep into D2 at this point. They could rework most Titan subclasses but it’d be sooo much work and risk so much backlash

Ngl I quit Destiny after week 2 cause of this Titan shit PvP is the worse it’s ever been and the only class that can actually have fun is hunters clearly Bungie just killed this entire season so I’m playing first descendant till next season

I feel like all we need is sun spots on prismatic, those boots that let us give sunspots would be amazing with dredgens lash or diamond lance but for some reason we literally got only mele abilities we didn’t need concentration

Every no skill scrub uses hunter

Bungie: titans are the punching class Also bungie: makes getting into melee range a death sentence in the majority of endgame content or the enemies are out of melee range Make it make sense

As a Titan main Titan exotics feel very lackluster compared the other 2 classes. OEM for example needs to be reverted to it's pre-nerf state. Why? Currently Knucklehead radar doing what OEM does but better apart from getting instant health regen and overshield by ADSing and not just on a single target but everyone in your FoV and with the added bonus of dealing increased damage to unshielded targets (critically wounded guardians in PvP) making it one of the most busted Hunter exotics in PvP as it's legal wallhacks.

its actually painful, its like they balance titan fearing its going to be super OP and everything just ends up being useless

What if Unbreakable was more like a discount Heir Apparent? It forms a shield in front of your gun and automatically gives your bullets Volatile Rounds. If Bungie hates Ward of Dawn, let's replace it. Golden Gun and Song of Flame are the only first person Supers, so let's change that. You form a Minigun that SUPRESSES enemies (get it? Suppressing fire) And releases volatile explosions on kill. These two ideas sound so damn good, well balanced, and fair

I think Titan should be a tank with Aggro and an ability to take pressure off of teammates while making them and yourself stronger. And maybe a super where it’s just a giant like, shoulder carried howitzer that you brace with and summons a shield around you to protect yourself and teammates while buffing heavy weapons.

Day one destiny 1 Titan main here- Titans are in drastic need of enhancement. They should almost always have an over shield- “MK 44 stand asides should be a base ability for ALL titans no exotic needed! Sprinting grants shield 2: new ability- I’ve ALWAYS wanted this: class ability where you can STOMP foes away and knock them into a wall or off a cliff- resulting in death- just like how a strike boss and stomp and you fly in their air! 3-They should add the banner of war or bastion aspects- pair those together with knockout! 4- here’s another change that would make sense- give void titan the ability to temporarily replace your allies class ability or grenade do their own personal Titan barricade with over shield included

BRO I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY PERSON THAT NOTICED THAT THEY WAS DICKEATING HUNTER AND WARLOCK IN THAT SHOWING AND SAID NOTHING BOUT TITAN BESIDES SHOWING A DOGSHIT CLIP MY DOG CAN DO

Titan needs a complete identity change. The constant nerfs to titan's entire toolkit since lightfall along with general ability regen and armor mod nerfs have really hit titans badly. One idea I have is Barricade needs additional functionality. Hunters get dodges with different uses and interplay between aspects and exotics that are useful, warlocks get healing or weapon buffs. Titans get a dinky little wall that breaks if a champion so much as sneezes at it. Give barricade a secondary use depending on subclass and type. Something like hold the button to deploy a banner that buffs you and allies with some subclass or weapon verbs. Titan got a little bit of that with strand banner aspect. It gave us a taste of what bungie originally intended titans to be back in D1, that is the Last City's "unmoveable wall upon which the darkness breaks." Let Titans be the face tanks, team defenders, and boss debuffers we should have been from the beginning. Not this old and tired "bonk" shit. Don't get me wrong, i love bonking and eating crayons, but when bungie nerfs our ability to even do that effecitvely, what even are we as titans?

They should give titans mimic tear super or mimic tear ability or give us a ten shikigami ability to summon npcs or give us a summon ability

This is what I think they should do Knockout should give titans and near by allies bigger health pool and getting kills or dilling damage should give melee energy and give us a buff in melee give us a aspect where arc weapon kills make targets explode and blind them or sum Sunspots need to become mobile cyclones that Scotch targets instead of being stationary Defensive strike us 50% or more DR when having a overshield and Behmoth should’ve been a sword subclass like doomguy or sum and the exotic perks on lance cap should been the aspect itself while lance cap should make take targets u freeze explode and gives us health or sum more unique give titans a glaice super that would be dope

here the thing im actually ok being the melee class, but they need to make abilities and syndergies that allow it to work.

it is sad that a year later... this is still an issue with titans.

First time watching this video. You were ahead of the time, bro. Good needs analysis about the Titan's lack of identity and role playing fantasy.

It would be nice to have an exotic that made the rally barricade give kinetic weapons one of the verbs. Have it give each person that stands behind it the verb depending on what super they are using. They could give them incandescent,voltshot, volatile rounds, unraveling rounds or chillclip depending on your super while behind it too. I just want the rally to be more than it has a shorter cool down and reloading is faster.

Titans need some love right now. Bungie has nerfed so many aspects of the game revolving around the other 2 classes without really batting an eye on how that will affect us Titans. In PvP pre-nerf Bubbles were strong for holding down a position but was outclassed by wells. After the nerf well was still strong but now Bubble has been rendered obsolete if you don't use Helm of Saint-14 making any builds that were made beforehand no longer viable in the current sandbox. In PvE (just like you said) Hunters have the DPS, Warlocks have the utility and means to support their fireteam and Titans are just there...., existing. Hazardous Propulsion with Grand Overture is currently only viable method to get consistently great DPS in almost every raid encounter. As for the PvP aspect (which what I enjoy) Hunters and Warlocks have it so much better than Titans in almost every single sense. Both have the best supers and the best abilities while Titans get short end of the stick with a few exceptions. If you play any PvP and fight any Titans that know what they're doing you'll see them use the same 3 kits, Bubble, Maul and Thundercrash and sometimes you'll see a strand Titans with BoW since the nerf kinda killed the kit in PvP. Out of the 3 kits only 2 are considered viable for trials and comp due to the Bubble nerf and now being a considered a really bad super to use due to how hilariously easy they are to get rid of. It doesn't feel a super anymore. While well on the other hand is still great since the advantage it has over the bubble is that you shoot enemies while standing in it (duh), making bubble mostly useless in PvP. There's no reason to use, no reason to play it anymore.

Titans need to be reinstated as "The Soldier" of the Guardian Trinity. We're the ones that protect the walls of the City, and all we ever get is punch. We should get something for Solar that embodies the Firebreak Order whose whole thing is a BIG gambit as a group of Titans because they take the fight to the enemy instead of protecting the Walls which leaves the walls less defended.

Hear me out..... Unbreakable with Cyranches(however you write it)

You guys are retarded ive had the most success soloing gms with titan

Remove Void Overshield (which is made of paper in higher level content) for a timed buff similar to Woven Mail. Frost Armor at max stacks should be equal to Woven Mail. Make give each subclass a Heavy Weapon based super like with Golden Gun. Thundercrash could be a Rocket Launcher, Strand could have a Minigun (that works like a MG), Void and Solar already have their weapons. Stasis should get a GL. You could easily scale them back for PvP without ruining the game. Prismatic needs either Into the Fray or Banner, and Cryoclasm or Tectonic Harvest. Titans entire power fantasy should revolve around being and feeling heavy. "I am a wall, and walls do not move, because walls do not care"

Something i noticed with the exotic class/prismatic system is that classes are taking on the role of another class. In the sense of exotic class items literally, but as a role as well. Hunters keep their DPS class identity while now having a titan melee playstyle due to prismatic and their exclusive class item perks. Warlocks keep their grenade spam/support identity while now having a hunter DPS playstyle with their prismatic and exclusive class item perks. But in terms of titan, it looks like bungie was pushing for titans to have a warlock playstyle with grenades or support based off their exclusive class item perks, but their choice in abilities and as you mentioned rally barricade barely doing anything it feels all mixed up. I think making a rally barricade that extends horizontally further or somehow incorporating citans rampart would be pretty fun. Just summarizing the gist of all of the titans exotic perks, it looks like they want you to fill a protector role with stuff like spirit of bear or spirit of lupi, but they dont feel strong enough in high end content and you would also have to either sit behind a dinky rally barricade or youre playing csgo with a tower barricade jiggle peeking. In terma of the grenade spamming role, its doable, but the grenades suck aside from shackle grenade and maybe pulse. I used to be a titan player, and if they can pull off titans fulfulling a warlocks support/grenade spam duty properly, i feel like the community would appreciate that alot more.