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It depends on your progenitor. With a toxin progenitor, merciless will outperform frostbite, and with magnetic/radiation progenitor, frostbite will outperform merciless. It’s also written at 3:17

@@splinterskulll yes I went with magnetic progenitor and radiated reload and corrosive built so overall I have rad, magnetic, corrosive, cold and viral (nourish) honestly I really recommend you try this it's craaaazy with primary frostbite since you have more than enough base damage with 5 elements

The corrosive cold build can use it, but only if you're using Mag/Rad progenitor, or you tack on more elements via helminth and augments. As just Corr/Cold, Merciless outscales Frostbite. However, in situations like endurance, Frostbite's easier stacking may be more user-friendly. For other setups that do not have Cold present on the weapon, there just isn't any cold present. You can bring it in from companions/etc. but I'd rather just not have to rely on that for basic setups on weapon functionality showcases, when Merciless works very similar. It is also in part because of being a beam weapon, making it both a blessing and a curse, since beams usually want status DPS, and raw damage dps usually combines with cold elements (viral) if not corrosive or nourish.

@@Aznvasions Alright, thank you!.

I have a Corrosive, Mag, Rad, Cold Glaxion using Frostbite on a Gloom Recrystallize Citrine and it is incredibly strong. With Prismatic Gem adding Heat, Toxin and Electric and Fractured Blast adding Slash and Impact it doesn't even need Serration in the build to absolutely obliterate Steel Path enemies once you have Galvanized stacks.

I also tried this. so far the bleed procs are super disappointing kills steel path but barely. Still tweaking but haven't solved it yet

Think Glaxions cold element as mod 9. Progenitor element as mod 10. So... If you put 1 element mod in your weapon, the game will mix cold first.

Look at Kengineer's channel for his video on "HCET". It's a very unintuitive mechanic and his video explains very well how unmodded elementals interact.

warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Multishot Ctrl+F beam What I said was that it does not apply to Hunter Munitions, and only applies to natural status procs, because HM is tied to crits and not status chance, and multishot boosts beam status, not beam hit count. This causes multishot to only dip once on HM builds, rather than twice, which natural statuses do.

@@Aznvasions Can you stop spinning the narative? You mentined "status not working on multishot" at the utility section and was EXPLICITLY talking about natural status application for the primer build. Not the HM dps build And regarding HM build, it still cancels it out because although you will apply less slash procs, each one will be stronger given that the damage that caused that slash proc is multiplied by the multishot value 3.3 less number of slash procs, but each proc is 3.3 times stronger.

@@TierdDoktor6391 I'm sorry on that, as I did go over the multishot discussion on the HM build as well, so I thought you were referring to that part. I will admit that I worded the primer build poorly and originally meant that it was pointless due to maxing cold stacks without it. Then when I actually recorded the script, I probably interpreted my own notes wrong and read it as "well obviously multishot doesn't work" and gave wrong information (I record audio before grabbing footage). That's my bad and I apologize. The 3.3 HM thing does not cancel out. For natural status procs, you get 3.3 higher status, and also 3.3 higher damage. So you end up getting 3.3^2, or 10.9x scaling in actual dps values ticking for any DoT. Because HM does not consider status, you only end up getting the 3.3 higher damage. Yes, multishot applies twice in DoT calculations for natural status beam weapons.

@@Aznvasions Thank you very much for clarification and correction Much appreciated

did you go with corrosive strip? not the HM?

​​@@antonk2157for high levels the crit rate and base damage are kinda low for HM once health scales up. The status application is so insane that 13 Corrosive procs from a Tau emerald or 14 from 2 normals is almost instant and then all your damage is getting value.

Only worth if you’re using Magnetic or Radiation Progenitor. Not worth if using Toxin Progenitor. It’s because of GunCO stacks. In endurance though, frostbite can be more convenient

@@Aznvasions Thanks for the response. I was theorycrafting with the upcoming corrisive proc buffs and thought that corrosive + cold + HM + Primary Frostbite might be good, however my maths are pretty faulty and overall it seemed like just going Viral + HM + Merciless is the way to go.

Frostbite is better than Merciless when you are not using Toxin progenitor, and pick Magnetic/Radiation instead. GunCO is always better unless you're using pure Viral DPS.

Honestly Lavos and my mag progenitor Glaxion is my new favorite daily driver setup.

did you try the azn builds? which you you liked on magnetic?

@@antonk2157 (Magnetic progenitor) Based my build on Tactical Potato's vid with some modifications. Galv Aptitude/ Galv Chamber/ Critical Delay / Vital Sense / Radiated Relaod /Primed Shred /High voltage / Malignant force / Riven in flex slot (cc+cd -zoom) /Vigilante Supplies in exilus slot. Merciless for arcane. Pair it with a primer pet and it's prety good (panzer / diriga / robo dog) Would recommend panzer for easy viral procces, diriga / robo dog for higher dmg (more status effects). I use the weapon with Qorvex but a wf with Nourish helminth on it is prety powerfull too.

With magnetic or radiation progenitor, make his Corrosive cold build, but replace primary merciless with primary frostbite arcane.

​@@antonk2157 magnetic is strong. Crazy strong

@@antonk2157 (Magnetic) Based my build on Tactical Potato's build. Galv aptitude / Galv chamber / Primed shred / Vital sense / Critical delay/ Radiated reload / High voltage / Malignant force / Vigilante supplies in exilus slot / Riven in flex slot (cc+cd -mag size) / Primary merciless for arcane. Use Diriga / Panzer / Robo doggo as pets for primeing (panzer is for easy viral stacks and diriga / robo doggo for more status effects -> more dmg). I use it with Qorvex or could recommend any frame that has Nourish as helminth on it. Tried it with Hunter munitions too but pure dmg felt better. (tested on lvl 225 SP heavy gunners mostly)

Yes I kindya miss the old Ignis

I'll argue its kinda better then even the amprex but the ignis definitely needs an upgrade

I hate beam weapons

@@nickfox233 it’s my most used weapon lol

@@00Grimreaper00I have the snores but I prefer the black on over Amprex. it just doesn’t hit has hard as I would like it too

medium str, about 150. High range, 230+. 100 Efficiency with energize/equilibrium. Dur is about neutral. Has Shock Trooper.

@@Aznvasions ty

The cap could be 10 or 20, primers with main cold are all able to achieve max stacks incredibly swiftly.

Even still, at present a chaining beam cold weapon with, at present, 18% chance for an energy orb is very nice. Is it worth it a slot? Probably not.

​@@kevinkerwin4118depends what you have in your build already. If you're slotting Hammer Shot or Vital Sense then the augment is a viable alternative but you likely wouldn't run both. Also one of the few reasons to run a riven with such low dispo is if you are lucky enough to get an innate corrosive one and free up a slot.

I remember them saying that enemies will be frozen at max cap

@@tomj819 Sounds like probably not.

Does the same job almost as good without the hassle of charging then activating Incarnon mode, although Torid's is pretty easy to activate too.

Incarnon annoying to charge

@@euphoricstamen9562 true

It feels refreshing to use after using the torid so many times

@@00Grimreaper00 that and it sounds dope af

This is one of the top picks for specters and on call crew.

Can't wait for this to be the top crowd control weapon when they decide to add 10 cold stacks

Thanks, I’m surprised you counted it all, shows that shield gating that many times means you need the energy to sustain it :)

Yup, projectile aoe :)

Not sure*

The slam still force procs, I just tested today