Lyric Rivera - Neurodivergent Rebel
Lyric Rivera - Neurodivergent Rebel
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Autistic Speech Patterns - Autism and Echolalia, Palilalia, Scripting, Vocal and Verbal Stimming
Though every single Autistic Person is different, many Autistic People make different noises, repeat sounds, or make other vocalizations.
In today's video, I'll discuss three main types of Autistic vocalizations: echolalia, palilalia, speech loops, scripting, and verbal and vocal stimming.
Despite being 37, I still have all three of these (as well as several other) NeuroDivergent speech patterns.
First, I will define each item, then explain more about these experiences from a human perspective, starting with echolalia, the vocalization I experience the most.
If you would like to know more, please stay tuned.
ID: Lyric, a pale-skinned nonbinary person with black hair with dark green ends and shaved sides pulled back, is sitting in an RV with the blinds pulled closed behind them.
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- Lyric
NOTES/DISCLAIMER:
It's important that we all understand, that as Autistic People, there is not a unified autistic experience. We all have different opinions and very different experience, and I think it's great to share those things.
If you're a NeuroTypical watching, remember that this is just my experience as a NeuroDivergent Person.
Hopefully, this video will inspire other NeuroDivergent People to share their experiences and how they relate, and maybe even do not, in the comments below.
I encourage you to listen to and read as many Autistic experiences as possible to best understand Autistic People.
I would LOVE to see more Autism vlogs by #ActuallyAutistic People.
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Komentáře

  • @Elianalivinglife
    @Elianalivinglife Před 7 hodinami

    I make a certain sound when laying down to relax, as it takes me to a relaxed state, I can't sing myself but I am great at singing along and it is the only way I can hit nodes 😅 I have even gotten compliments for being able to copy the voice of some songs, perfectly, sounding as the original 😅 but singing it without vocal copying I sound like crap 😂 Singing along relaxes me. I love learning languages, but I am too perfectionistic to speak most of the languages I understand and read, but I can easily echo them. I love my brain and it's nuances

  • @Elianalivinglife
    @Elianalivinglife Před 7 hodinami

    My mother in law always says 5-6 bye's when she hangs up 😅 not diagnosed but it is always like that one of her sisters do the same 😊

  • @Lord_Lumpi
    @Lord_Lumpi Před 23 hodinami

    Drinking alcohol helps me a lot to socialise with people and I am much more extroverted than I really am. The problem is that after a while (sometimes in the same evening) I feel very ashamed of how I behave and what I have said. So for me, drinking alcohol is a double-edged sword. Part of me says, yeah, this is great, everyone likes you and thinks you are a funny and cool guy. But the other part says you are even weirder than you already are.

  • @marleymars2223
    @marleymars2223 Před 2 dny

    "Have autism"

  • @AutisticStabathon
    @AutisticStabathon Před 3 dny

    Thank you so much for your content. i am AUDIHD and bought an RV a month ago for the sake of stability and comfort while traveling in search for my people and my place. It made me cry to hear someone actually say that they live in an rv to feel safe, because i have not reached that point yet and was losing hope. Neuro-normies look at me like im insane when i tell them this is not a risk, but the most security ive ever had. You made me feel seen and hopeful, thank you.

  • @theblackpianist1905

    I’m actually smart, with piano construction cars, but social interactions and sarcasm im the fkng slowest person in the room. Still. I hate it

  • @studiotom
    @studiotom Před 5 dny

    As always, you spoke about these topics so brilliantly and insightfully! Thank you Lyric!! 😁 I also have a bit of echolalia, which I’ve spent years masking, but the drive to do it is definitely still there. I rarely do it around other people, but I often find myself doing it at least in my head, and sometimes under my breath or even out loud when I’m alone. I strongly suspect that my echolalia combined with my hyperlexia contributed a great deal to my ability to learn languages. I first learned German at 11, and was fluent with a native accent within six months of living there as an exchange student, just 4 years later. I went on to learn Russian, French & Dutch in college as well, and informally learned a good bit of Spanish, plus a little Italian and Urdu. I really wish I had more time and energy to put into learning the languages that I don’t have as much experience with, I really find them fascinating! Ironically, although I’m naturally gifted at learning languages, dialects and accents, I can also very easily experience a significant degradation in my ability to speak coherently and clearly when I’m in a heightened emotional state, which I think is a form of conditional mutism. Maybe all those extra synapses going bibbledy-boppity are somehow getting in the way of my brain’s ability to process language signals efficiently?? 🤔 And I think probably because of that particular condition, I also do a good bit of scripting, even for imagined possible future conversations that will likely never happen, as if it’s a way for me to mentally prepare and rehearse the words I might need to use at a future time when I’m struggling to even find the right words in the moment. I also find that I do a similar thing for past conversations, as if I could learn to say things in a better way for the next time I might need to say them. Does that actually work? Probably not that much, maybe a tiny little bit… but regardless, at least I feel like it gives me an option to potentially have a little more verbal control and ability than I would otherwise. 😎🤪

  • @studiotom
    @studiotom Před 6 dny

    Lyric, you are amazing!! First, I love your autistic pride - I’ve been learning to appreciate my autism, and hearing you talk about how glad you are that you’re autistic, I felt so validated and encouraged by that. Thank you!! I also really appreciated your thoughts about “being autistic” vs. “having autism” 💯 - I agree, because I think that language which implies that we can be separated from our neurodivergences really comes from a very uninformed and ableist perspective. I identified as demisexual and non-binary before I realized that I was autistic a year or two ago, since I’m really good at masking and had never been diagnosed. The way you described autigender and neuroqueer makes so much sense - our brains are literally wired differently and have so many more neural connections, OF COURSE we’re going to spill outside of the predefined neurotypical gender roles, in all sorts of ways!! As for me, I’m AMAB and I feel comfortable presenting and being perceived as masculine type person, but inside, I feel like who I am is only a little bit masc and much more femme. After hearing you talk about autigender, I definitely think that applies to me and it offers a whole new perspective on why I am how I am. Thank you so much for sharing all of these ideas, they really excited my brain!! 😁 You are so brilliant Lyric, I love you and appreciate you so much!!! Thank you for being YOU!!! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

    • @studiotom
      @studiotom Před 6 dny

      Also, I gotta say, I’m feeling a little frustrated that CZcams will only let me give this video ONE like - that’s just not nearly enough!!! 😁

  • @WizardKitty723
    @WizardKitty723 Před 6 dny

  • @William-Hartwell
    @William-Hartwell Před 6 dny

    I think you might be autigender

  • @SpoonMe
    @SpoonMe Před 7 dny

    When I had surgery, I asked my daughter when I was in recovery to put on forensic files just in the background because the narrator voice was soothing to me and after a couple hours, she’s like mom I can’t listen to the murder stuff anymore. I’m starting to have bad dreams Because I did stay the night and she was with me so I thought that was funny because I also find it soothing. And a lot of responses if someone says words that are our respond in a song or just start singing that song if there’s somebody says something a movie or a song, there would be a natural progression of some other words. I need to hear those words either I say them or they say them, but I need to hear them out loud before I can move on.

  • @stephenpiccolo
    @stephenpiccolo Před 9 dny

    I do vocal stimming a lot. I wish I didn't.

  • @Hermitthecog
    @Hermitthecog Před 9 dny

    His sailor shirt and pretentious coif were a good first clue that he's an infoxtrinated idiot - but opening his mouth cinched it.

  • @hannahc5115
    @hannahc5115 Před 9 dny

    Are Echolalia and Palilalia inherently involuntary? And if so, is there a word for when it's a voluntary stim? Or is that just a general vocal stim?

  • @flyygurl18
    @flyygurl18 Před 10 dny

    Really loved this and can relate to all of them: it’s fascinating to know what I am doing and you helped further my understanding of them 💛⭐️

  • @elliedragon
    @elliedragon Před 10 dny

    I vocal stim a lot and have echolalia.

  • @thomasjamison2050
    @thomasjamison2050 Před 10 dny

    I am 73 and have spent a lifetime gradually learning to suppress a lot of more common stims, such as tapping my fingers. That was something I often did a meetings without being aware of the fact others might just notice I was doing it. Nowadays I do different things, but mostly I just stay from NT's most of the time in my personal life, and my business activities, where possible, are just things I do by myself. I do notice though that meeting other non NT people generally always results in a light and bubbly conversation, even about serious matters. Something I have started doing recently is rhyming. I will take a word and just find as many rhymes as I can, mostly in simple lines of relatively poor poetry. When I do my serious work, which is trading financial derivatives, the only way I can keep focus is to put on big band music and use a practice drum pad to keep in some sort of physical motion while I watch market activity in relatively high detail.

  • @BCSchmerker
    @BCSchmerker Před 10 dny

    +neurodivergentrebel *Is that a dark nail paint that ye're wearing?* Testing nail finishes in anticipation of a wife, I favor "mannequin hand."

  • @WoohooliganComedy
    @WoohooliganComedy Před 10 dny

    💖

  • @karenelliott-grinnell4643

    I have palialia. I didn't realize this till recently when a good friend pointed it out that I repeated last words and phrases. It was subconscious. Now I am aware right after I do it but it is still involuntary. I also repeat my self when in a thought loop just like you described. I got diagnosed ASD at age 61, so I've been doing this my whole life. I have had friends point out my quirks all along and I tried to explain how it's not on purpose.

  • @ChuckMeIntoHell
    @ChuckMeIntoHell Před 10 dny

    I'm one of the people who confuse palilalia for echolalia. I used to echo my own words a lot as a kid, not so much any more. I'm not sure if this is masking or if I legitimately grew out of it. But I would say something, and then usually repeat it under my breath, or even just mouth it without actually saying anything. I sometimes copy songs and phrases. I'm not sure if it qualifies as echolalia, but I used to work at a food kiosk in Walmart, and I would hear the alarm sound over and over again, that would say "We're sorry you have activated Walmart's inventory control system. Please step back and an associate will help you. Thank you." I would repeat that so often that I could repeat the same tone of voice and cadence of the voice actor, and even the note of the tone that chimed before and after the statement. This was almost 30 years ago, and I can still recite it. I do the same thing with music but it's more unusual with things like the alarm. When you started to sing three little birds, I continued to sing it. When I sing, it's so much of a reproduction of the version I'm familiar with, that I have to actively try to sing it in my own style.

  • @ddemulling9722
    @ddemulling9722 Před 10 dny

    Lyric, your singing voice is really great! Thank you for being all of you and being so inspiring. Your videos make me happy and I feel less alone and more ‘normal’.

  • @SilverTwilight
    @SilverTwilight Před 10 dny

    I’m realizing that I do a lot more of these than I realized. Some were suppressed in childhood, some I don’t do as much as my kids do due to sensitive hearing. I’ve always had singing as a stim, and in my four-person household, meowing (back to the cats or at each other) is a form of communication. This is a bit of an effort to suppress around other people’s dogs who aren’t supposed to bark (and tend to overwhelm me when they bark, regardless of house rules). I definitely script from movies, books, and song lyrics a fair bit. I was going to say I don’t repeat myself, but I do sometimes walk around sing-songing a phrase I just said. (Sometimes this is a memory aid as I go from one room to another or one task to another, but not always.)

  • @katemidddletonisawesome

    I say my celebrity idol's name over and over. I make weird noises. I'm not ashamed of either! I had a meltdown when I read a negative comment about her on the latest video about her. It's a woman... can't say any more than that. Because people will bully me.

  • @onixxfilth
    @onixxfilth Před 11 dny

    I've sometimes repeated things people have said or parts of what they said and I've said it's because I need to "make it mine." It's somehow satisfying to hear it in my own voice.

  • @CreatiVastARTS
    @CreatiVastARTS Před 11 dny

    Whoa… 😳 that sounds really intense! I’m an adult, and was wanting to try and get an assessment for an official diagnosis. But it would cost me $5000 to get. I’m 100% sure that I’m autistic, after accepting this, and working towards accommodating myself and my needs, my quality of life has been so much better. But not 100% sure if an assessment would really be worth it.

  • @eladhen2
    @eladhen2 Před 11 dny

    One of my central stims is drumming polyrhythms. Other than that I sing, finger drum paterns, sing about what I'm doing or changing known songs by switching the words to words I find audibly pleasing...

  • @Newfers77
    @Newfers77 Před 11 dny

    I have rarely ever shown excitement in public places. I've been at concerts and was mistaken for staff because "I didn't look like I was enjoying myself". I was singing along to myself and just standing still with my arms crossed. But at home, or with select people I have no real problems being myself, all of your vocal stims included. I hear someone say something that triggers a song lyric in my head, I'll continue the line, sometimes singing it. The amount of stims I have related to music is unreal, but makes sense given how important music is to keeping me regulated.

  • @tracik1277
    @tracik1277 Před 11 dny

    My echolalia is mostly fun and enjoyable for me, but there’s a dark side too, because it depends what’s being echoed. If I hear something disturbing or distressing that tends to get stuck in my head as well. I don’t usually vocalise these because I don’t want to encourage them.

  • @stupidsminkle
    @stupidsminkle Před 11 dny

    I'm usually singing a lot or talking to myself. Sometimes the music stim is just one part of the whole song that I repeat, like what you said about Bob Marley. Sometimes I'm vocalizing and then later I realize I'm doing it. I had one I always did that was a tune from the Pokemon games. I've also got an Animal Crossing one. It's kind of tough to mask the self-talk when I'm in public, like at the grocery store I am usually talking to myself and hopefully nobody looks at me weird 😂

  • @Christine83507
    @Christine83507 Před 11 dny

    I love this video! I do these a lot. I love certain phrases, songs, humming, talking to myself, all of it. Great topic!

  • @FirstmaninRome
    @FirstmaninRome Před 12 dny

    I will echo conversations and retact them in certain ways, echo documentaries and movies. Particularly fond of BBC Battlefield western front. But my vocal Stim is actually way worse than any adult I've met, or more consistent, in a type one case, though I don't think about it much. It's kinda a Tsss sound. It happens when Im joking, laughing, performing and echoing. It gets worse under social distress, but never Fully goes away.

  • @pauldugas1188
    @pauldugas1188 Před 12 dny

    I stim with music. Which is very different from my vocal stimming. So when my guard is down, I talk and sometimes sing to the dog or cat. The dog seems to love it. Echolalia of my own sounds from papilalia. Am sure you know they evolve. Moka the dog is now called Ploopet when I am in that frame of mind.

  • @Kree.B.
    @Kree.B. Před 12 dny

    My son just started talking a few months ago and he counts all the time, even in his sleep. I thought it was because numbers are 1 of his great loves, but now I wonder if he's also using them as a vocal stim?

  • @minibus9
    @minibus9 Před 12 dny

    Awesome video, i feel like i do all of these, but am not sure which I do most

  • @katw01
    @katw01 Před 12 dny

    Hi Lyric, So great are All Your videos. Hope You and David and the puppies are All well✌️💛🕉.

  • @plain_me
    @plain_me Před 13 dny

    You are DOING it, my beautiful friend! You are helping in building the foundations. By promoting that book, and doing a wonderful job at speaking in a way neurotypicals will understand and cannot deny. You are calm and demonstrate a fair and balanced way of thinking. Difficult to do in our turbulent world situation. Well done, and well said! Bravo! Slammin' hair! I cut my daughter's hair for a long while like that. She loved it! We are Aspies. I just found out last month in July. Rough. Very difficult in every way. All of the puzzle pieces are falling into place. Yeah. The corporate mentality is not logical. It's going to get worse before it gets better, but you guys are helping us to "turn the corner" to better. Thank you. 🙏🏻🧘‍♀️💙🕊✌🏻☮️

  • @theresapizza
    @theresapizza Před 13 dny

    My child and I do the same vocal stims when we hug. We are both AuDHD 😊 and we do it because of love!

  • @redredred8408
    @redredred8408 Před 14 dny

    I HAAATE autism positivity so cringe and toxic

  • @regalrealm3354
    @regalrealm3354 Před 15 dny

    this gendering of autism also dosen't account for minority races and ethnicities, where presentations of femininity/masculinity are different from the status quo and therefore also how autism is categorized. I'm certain my diagnosis was missed as a child because a Black Girl, which is *noticeably different* than a White Boy, could not be autistic; no, she was just quiet and weird and antisocial AND selfish and stubborn with anger issues ('undisciplined'). 'She'... is now a genderless, plural demon.

  • @LaylaTow
    @LaylaTow Před 21 dnem

    4:23 this. In normal circumstances when its quite quiet i can do a guessing game of what someone said. If background is noisy (not even loud, even someone whispering or there are kshkshksh noises on phone call) i don’t „hear” at all. I understand the mouth are moving and some noise is coming but it doesn’t sound like anything to my brain. So its really difficult to go outside or have bad quality phone call I will just get meltdown in a minute because of overstimulation plus frustration of not understanding anything. Believe me its as much frustrating for us that we don’t understand as for people that we don’t understand.

  • @loveycat5474
    @loveycat5474 Před 23 dny

    ABA is required in California for autistic children. It is part of the public school education.

    • @NeurodivergentRebel
      @NeurodivergentRebel Před 21 dnem

      you have a right to push back on this - www.insteadofaba.org/iep-504

  • @taisiakat
    @taisiakat Před 26 dny

    I am a non-binary gender fluid late diagnosed Autistic person. It was because of my unique way of thinking / problem solving / & overload shutdown (what others continue say) when I get two opposing ideas that prompted me to actually get diagnosed. Mind you it explains a lot of the misdiagnosis of my childhood teens and young adult. In addition to that I have hyper sensitivity energy issues when I am in groups over 10 or so. I tend to get totally overloaded with other people's energy that I end up collapsing. Love to hear more on the double empathy.

  • @Catlily5
    @Catlily5 Před 27 dny

    I liked this format!

  • @Catlily5
    @Catlily5 Před 27 dny

    If I doodled I could pay better attention in school.

  • @UchihaAlira
    @UchihaAlira Před 29 dny

    My attitude towards my gender can at best be described as 'whatevs'. I've always been gender nonconforming, but in a way that still feels unique to me lol I wear masculine clothes, but it was always about comfort. I never looked at clothes with the desire to look feminine, or masculine. I wear men and women's perfume. It's about the smell, not who it's marketed towards. I like medium length hair, because long hair is a pain. I don't wear make up because it seems like so much work. But if my gay, drag queen best friend wants to doll me up. I am his willing canvas 😂 I've never felt like a woman, but I've never felt like a man, or even non-binary. I use she/her out of convenience. It's a word that gets the job done and nothing more. You could call by any pronoun and I wouldn't care so long as I knew you were talking to me. I've always felt that no matter my gender, or sex. I would've come out the exact same person. Sometimes I feel like I need to find a word that better suits whatever this identity could be labelled as. But I always come back to the realisation that I'm just me. Despite me not really caring about my gender. I think it's incredibly important to respect other people's. As a pansexual, I dislike using the term gender blind. Because I think its disrespectful.

  • @rigelestbit
    @rigelestbit Před 29 dny

    I've got a friend at uni that takes their stuffed animals to class because it makes them feel more at ease. I never really cared for my stuffed animals even in my childhood, but they don't have their diagnostic yet, I do, so I take mine to class so if anyone complains I'll say it was my idea!

  • @DavidDeHarty
    @DavidDeHarty Před měsícem

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  • @ssalazar8965
    @ssalazar8965 Před měsícem

    These accommodation tips seem to only apply for corporate or office jobs. It could just be the type of job or industry in which you work that just is not compatible with accommodations. I have found that warehouse, manufacturing and construction jobs are not as understanding when it comes to accommodations. Trying to advocate for yourself will mostly just put a target on your back and then the company will just attempt to push you out of the job.

  • @languagemodeler
    @languagemodeler Před měsícem

    Thank you