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I would have to beg to differ with you if given the choice between a flyswatter and a full cylinder of 45 Colt snake shot I would choose the snake shot every single time. The snake in the intro photo is one that I shot with these loads at 15 feet. It was dead in one shot and wasn't even writhing around in typical dead snake fashion. While certain loadings of snake shot are not very effective I assure you these do work well with the right load at the right distance as displayed in this video. Currently my sample size for the number 12 shot is somewhere around 50 snakes most of them killed with a single shot all ranging from 5 1/2 feet to less than 1 foot. Plus loading your own snake shot is only slightly more money than handloading standard cartridges in 45 Colt. At any rate though I still respect your opinion and appreciate you taking the time to share it and watch the video as well. --Jeremiah

Ha ha I suppose that depends who you ask but yes it is a new cartridge from Hornady. We actually did a big two part article on it in Handloader magazine I would highly encourage you checking that out. There is more information there than what we can pack into these videos especially when it comes to load data. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

I do try to be as professional as possible when it comes to these videos while I don't script everything out, I do have notes that I reference throughout the video and yes you can catch me glancing down in this video at the notes especially when it comes to dates and things of that nature and yes on occasion I do mix up my words much vs most. I am not perfect, but I am not going to stop wearing the hat, as for Nosler rifles if you would have finished the video you would find that this one shot quite well and even stabilized bullets up to the 62 grain mark. We do strive to improve our videos though so we certainly will take your feedback into advisement this video was also published 4 years ago I would encourage you to check out some of our newer videos. I think you'll see a lot of improvement there. At any rate thanks for checking us out and providing feedback we do appreciate it and hope to continue to improve our videos as time goes on. --Jeremiah

It probably is a little excessive for some situations but for situations on horseback where I may need to dispatch a snake or a coyote it allows me to not have to rotate the cylinder to an appropriate load. Sometimes time is of the essence in those types of situations. I have tried a wad over the shot and it works just as well as the gas check and is a viable alternative. We would've showcased that in the video but sadly we did not have enough time to showcase all 3 different loadings. By all means use what works best for your application a wad/gas check and shot may be all you need. That is generally all that is kept in gun when i'm working around the house or the barn but on horseback I carry the shot W/ bullet load. Thank you very much for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

@@HandloaderTV I didn’t realize you were using in that fashion. And just to be clear you are some shot I could never hit a clay hard enough stationary on the ground

@@joemolf3894 That is the wonderful thing about handloading it adds a ton of versatility to your arsenal what was once two completely different loads is now combined into a single load and a rather fool proof system. In addition to that each person can tailor the load to their needs by using our data and substituting the gas check for a wad or whatever would suit your application. Hopefully they'll have a lot of fun in the process. As the for the compliment thank you very much! It is easier than it looks with a 45 colt case packed full of shot! I appreciate the kind words though and you taking the time to comment back. I truly believe that we have the best subscribers, viewers and comment section on CZcams because of kind folks like you who are willing to listen and share their thoughts as well! So thank you very much! --Jeremiah

Thank you very much and thank you for subscribing we greatly appreciate it! --Jeremiah

Indeed we pride ourselves in our testing but still try to present it in an easy to digest manner. All of our testing was conducted at 15 yards which is our standard for handguns so all of our videos are directly comparable to one another when it comes to testing. I would love to stretch that distance out in future videos and start a separate series shooting 25, 50 or even 100 yard groups provided there is enough interest in the subject. Thanks for watching and great question! --Jeremiah

It is a very heavy rifle for sure but it's a great test platform for working up loads for and the load data and information about the cartridge capabilities are still relevant. If you are interested in the cartridge in a lighter weight rifle I would suggest checking our our video on the Howa Carbon Elevate, it's sub 5 pounds and we tested one in 6.5 Grendel but you can see the rifle performance for yourself in that video and view the 6mm ARC cartridge performance in this video and maybe that would be a good combination for you. I have pasted the link below. czcams.com/video/cC_d23rEV24/video.html I hope this helps you out and you can still find some useful and interesting information from our videos, if not I completely understand and we appreciate you at least checking us out! --Jeremiah

I do have plans to cover it at some point, I have the dies and some brass and ammunition but to be honest with you acquiring a rifle has been a bit challenging in addition to finding the time. It seems like it's very popular with western hunters and that is about it so perhaps working up some hunting loads for it would be worthwhile it does seem like a hot topic in hunting circles. Thanks for the suggestion and the continued support as always! --Jeremiah

@HandloaderTV You got it, bro! You're my go-to CZcams guy for all things handloading and shooting. 👍🏿

@@bustabass9025 Thank you for the kind words, I believe as your comments are in every video we appreciate that and it means a lot to us and to me personally as well. I thoroughly enjoy getting to help others out. I'll see what I can do about getting a 6.8 Western to put to the test. --Jeremaih

@@HandloaderTV Thanks again, my friend.

@@bustabass9025 You are most welcome! --Jeremiah

No offense taken, we report the results exactly as we get them and the viewer can take that information and do with as they please. We don't pull any punches or show favoritism in our videos nor do we cater to advertisers or anything like that. I am actually working on the part two of the article for Handloader magazine on this rifle and cartridge combination. I shot a 30 Shot group with Vihtavuori N540 that measured out to .88 inches, I wish I could have showed that target and shooting in this video but sadly it was shot after filming was complete. I thought that was pretty good and it can be misleading shooting only five shot groups but everyone has their own thoughts and ideas on that and that is perfectly okay as well. I am pretty happy with it for what it was intended for a 500 yard and in coyote rifle, if I do my part that should be no problem accuracy or ballistics wise. It does outperform the 5.56 NATO I was previously using for coyotes but by all means to each their own. Thank you for being kind with your comment and sharing your thoughts here I think it adds a lot of value to our videos and opens up room for more discussion amongst those who are interested in the video topic. We greatly appreciate that. --Jeremiah

Thank you very much and for taking the time to watch and comment, it is a great little cartridge and is vastly greater than my previous coyote rifle chambered in 5.56. The detachable box magazine is entirely personal preference and I can understand your views on that to each their own it's just nice to have so many options on the market today. Thank you again for your support and sharing your thoughts! --Jeremiah

Thank you for watching and the kind feedback we are happy to help others in their reloading journey and adventure! Good shooting and happy handloading! --Jeremiah

It is hard to go wrong with a 7mm Rem Mag or 7mm PRC for Elk, the 6.8 should be more than capable as well and if you have access to the components you shouldn't have a problem with that either with the right bullet at the right range. 6.5 PRC is capable as well but it would likely be last on my personal recommendations for elk of the cartridges you listed. I agree with a good muzzle brake you can get the recoil of 7mm Rem Mag down to that of a 6.5 Creedmoor. As for a rifle recommendation that is a tough one Tikka is popular, Bergara is another good choice, the Winchester Model 70 is a classic and they are slick actions these days. If I had to choose personally and not go the custom route I would probably pick a Tikka or Winchester Model 70 if money was no objection. Then I would shoot the heck out of it and know what it is truly capable of. That would be my best suggestion. Whatever you pick practice with it, know your cone of fire and maximum effective range with a little margin for error added in. If you are really concerned about weight of the rifle the Howa Carbon Elevate may be a great option with a large brake added to offset the added recoil from a light rifle or a really good suppressor but it sill won't be quite as effective as a brake. Great question thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

@@HandloaderTV Thank you for the answers. I'm leaning hard 7 Remington Magnum. I've owned heavier 300 Win Mag but kinda was wondering on that 6.5 prc with a heavy out handload. Think the 7 Remington Magnum is my go to. Thanks again New sub

They were virgin Lapua cases, Annealing would certainly help with necking them down but I would not recommend it for virgin cases I feel it may make them a little too soft and you wouldn't work it enough through sizing to get that hardness back until you've fired it a few times. I could be wrong there though. In my experience once fired cases are even harder and crush even easier than virgin cases. I think the best advice is what is shown in the video using a 6mm ARC or 6mm Grendel die to size the neck down then full length size down to 22 ARC. You'll work your brass less doing so and it'll still shoot well on the first firing. Great question though, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

It is a Konig Jager Super Bench made out of Aluminum plate (not sure what alloy) and welded together with adjustable legs in a sliding sleeve with a locking pinch type collar on the legs. It is very heavy but great for benchrest type shooting I do wish it was a little bigger. Building one shouldn't be too difficult if your a good welder otherwise I would suggest a different design. Sadly Konig Jager is out of business but you may be able to find some better pictures online of the bench itself. Overall it is a pretty simple design the hardest part would be getting the top which is one piece rolled down to create the approx. 3 inch lip that runs all around the bench so you have something to lean into and attempt to remove your breathing and heartbeat from going into the rifle. If that is a concern I would also suggest a different shape making it easier to get up and lean into the bench but all in all it was one of the best on the market. Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah

@@HandloaderTV Thank you for getting back to me , I have been searching for a bench design I like for quite awhile . When issue #351 was delivered , the first thing I noticed was the bench on the cover . I am wanting to build a portable bench that is also rock solid . I realize that portable AND rock solid might not necessarily be a realistic possibility . During my search I came across the Stukey bench , and It looks absolutely perfect , you can tell a lot of effort went into the design of that base and leg system . Unfortunately with the price of electricity , food , gas and just about everything else doubled and tripled : I would be in big trouble with the powers to be if UPS pulled up and dropped that off on my porch . Besides , I want to build my own anyway . Great job on explanation of case forming the brass and load development for the 22ARC .

3 shot groups can’t tell you if something is good. It sure can tell you if something is bad. Nothing wastes ammo like shooting a 20rd group when you knew after 3 it was going to chuck a 2” group 100fps under your target velocity.

Probably not this rifle averages .88 inch groups for 30 shots with a good load. Which, is why we include the measurements with and without the flyer lol. Some folks want to know either way so we cater to both. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

Glad it was helpful Thanks for watching! --Jeremiah

If memory serves me correct it weights 8.5 pounds without the can and just under 9 pounds with the can. Great question thanks for watching! --Jeremiah

I agree with you which is why we show both group measurements in the video. That particular rifle will put 35 rounds into a little less than an inch depending on conditions which is pretty amazing in my book! However, your absolutely right about 5 shots not being statistically significant and better yet it sounds like you have done your own testing to validate your statement. It's good to hear that other folks are starting to understand such things. We have plans to do a video on the subject along with load development explaining exactly how we do it for the videos along with how I do it personally. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

I must admit Mike was definitely the inspiration behind this and the shot size selection as well! They work wonderfully well and have saved my horse and dog from danger close death noodles. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

Same inspiration for me only early 90's, that and dual round ball load Thanks Mike😊

I have a 220 Swift from the Remington Custom Shop and actually did an article on it for our Varmint Rifles & Cartridges magazine, I do love the 220 Swift and enjoyed working up loads with some of the newer powders available for it. A great cartridge no doubt and you'll get no argument from me on either of the points you made. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! --Jeremiah

Thank you very much for the kind words and feedback we greatly appreciate it we certainly do our best and are always trying to improve! --Jeremiah

Thank you for the kind words and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah

Thank you very much that really means a lot to us, we certainly do our best and we greatly appreciate the feedback. We hope that the channel continues to grow and we can continue to provide good honest information to folks out there who are interested. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment and sharing our content it greatly helps us out and helps us determine what other subjects we should cover in the future! --Jeremiah

To be honest I thought that this video would do better, I know there are a lot of folks that like this cartridge myself included. It is a great practical little cartridge especially for youth and eastern style hunting. These Howa rifles make for an outstanding combination as well. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and experience with the cartridge and taking the time to watch and comment! --Jeremiah