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A Sum Of Two Busses
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Registrace 10. 07. 2020
Drew Thornton is the FOH Engineer for Billie Eilish and since the industry shut down in March, he started this project named A Sum of Two Busses. He will be diving into his front of house rig for Billie's live show. While using some virtual soundcheck he will be walking you through some of his tips, tricks, and approaches while demonstrating interesting things that the Allen and Heath's DLive console and Waves SuperRack has to offer.
His goal is to make some fun and interesting videos focused around live sound mix engineering, the Dlive, Waves Soundgrid and share some tips, tricks and theories regarding live sound.
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His goal is to make some fun and interesting videos focused around live sound mix engineering, the Dlive, Waves Soundgrid and share some tips, tricks and theories regarding live sound.
#foh #fohlife #tourlife #fohengineer #audioengineer #livesound #livesoundengineer #proaudio #drewthornton #asumoftwobusses #allenandheath #dlive #wavesaudio #superrack #11audioproductions
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Can we get the UFX version now please?
Do you know if the avantis has the same summing vibe?
THANKS!!! 🫶
I want to do this without the servers and switch. Is that posssible
Paul’s the man! Cool interview.
He is foh engineer for billie
I absolutely love it, you're the best! It helped a lot :)
Hey Drew! Are you programming a soft key or something that translates the midi protocol via each scene? And when the scene changes that info gets sent to recall the snapshot? Curious, because when I follow along my scene change isn't sending MIDI or a program change to Waves. However, when I drop a MIDI fader onto my dLive, and move a fader, I can see that MIDI being sent to Waves. My troubleshooting brain is thinking I have to dive into the TC/IP MIDI pdf and program a bit to make this work.
How do you setup your verbs and sub groups and matrixes on the d live to get a fuller sound. I notice it’s working better when I do things like that but I’m still not knowledgeable enough to get ahead and learn more
Thank you!
Grateful ❤
Hey Drew, a bit of topic post..how did you route your kick parallel and snare parallel from the computer..i bet you are using dante or soundgrid virtual soundcheck but i can't manage to route and duplicate my own tracks.. I have them..but not duplicated..because i don't know how to do it
If you don’t see the server what did I do wrong?!
would LOVE to hear more from you...
What’s the difference between “groups” and auxes?
Nice reference to Robert Scovill! 10:20 Secret sauce 47:31
Serious question: are you using an Avantis or what model is this? Would this functionality be available on the SQ as well?
He is on a dLive c1500 but the Avantis should also have this feature as well.
Very cool...
tbh i like the 15 minute mix way more than the 1 h mix. went a bit over the edge with the reverbs there IMO, sounds like inside a stadium already even within my nearfield monitoring. matter of taste tho, obviously, it's not bad by any means ;) amazing to watch you getting there in 15, levels above my work for sure!
Hey Drew, are you routing your groups back in to then go to overall band/vocal groups before mains?
Damn...
3 db gr on master not more right ??
People should listen to the following podcast next, because towards the end of it he says that he doesn't use this method anymore and does most of his processing before the Main / LR bus, in subgroups, etc : czcams.com/video/wjRdjHVZ9fE/video.html
As a noob live mixing person, there is something i've always wondered. Isn't it a problem to do big EQ sweeps and other obvious-sounding (as in : people in the audience can hear the mix is being tweaked) things in the mix in the middle of the show ? I guess you have to be cautious with how extreme your moves are and how fast you do them so that people in the audience don't have time to notice the mix is being tweaked or something ?
Great episode. New subscriber.
Love The Jerk reference! That's all I need in the whole world; and this lamp, and this ashtray. But that's all I need!
Switching to dLive this month and been checking out these videos to prep. This was more telling than I expected! I noticed it in the space more than anything (headphones). It got wider and deeper. Will be trying!
I might be stupid but I still do not understand the function of the iPFL bus. You let your iPod come in dual mono (also don't understand why you'd do that? You want to send the mono sum to the mono sub and ff matrix right? Or do you send one side??) so is the whole and only reason so you can PFL your iPod in stereo (since if you PFL two mono sources it'll be mono)? And you can send a stereo signal around the LR mix too, right? What am I missing here?
From what i understand, his LR mix goes to the matrix, and the ipod is just another mix that goes to the matrix and that doesn't go through the LR mix, so that he can AB the LR mix and the iPOD.
Will this approach with midi control still work if the card is inserted in the surface instead of the mix rack?
Yep!
@@asumoftwobusses6304 appreciate the response! Running into a hangup getting scene control to work. Midi learning is working great for softkeys, but the actual scene control doesn't seem to work even with the correct hex offset.
For the last few weeks Ive been driving the LR of my newly acquired dlive into the red. I wasn't particularly worried, but I must say, it is nice to have some independent confirmation for what my ears were telling me. Great vids dude.
Love this video. Do you delay inputs for wireless latency compensation? If you are using axient transmitters there are 2ms of delay in those..."Axient Digital features a wide dynamic range, AES-256 encryption, and only two milliseconds of latency from the mic transducer to the analog output." which would be 192 samples if you are running at 96k. Just curious about your thoughts on this. Thanks!!
i've been live mixing professionally for over 20 years and I still can't get enough of these videos! thanks so much Drew for letting us in to your world and learning some of your tricks! Peace, bro! -Clint
Hey there, I have a problem setting up Logic Pro with my Allen & Heath SQ6 for online, and there aren't any videos on youtube on how to correctly do it. Please could do a video on this or direct me to help, thank you!
Thank you for this! I was pointed in your direction by Michael Bangs at NAMM this week. I'm trying to think of how to implement this on a CL3. I looked through the reference manual and didn't find any mention of native processing latency (I'm not running any external plugins). I think the way to measure it is to use one channel going straight to LR, and another going through the most processing I would do on a channel (both dynamics, group with 2 inserts to LR) and compare either the impulse response or just adjust the latency until the phase traces line up. I think I can then isolate each step in the chain and deduce how much latency each step introduces. Am I on the right track?
Great videos, How do I find out which one is my longest path Drew? I am not using waves
Finally I get some more info on this topic. I'm always thinking about this with my shows and I love hearing more info about it.
15 minutes, no gain structure, no multi tracks and no idea what band you're doing. Sounds like every regular Saturday to me....
this is awsome Drew! but please tel me, regrading the groups does the drum group contains also the duplicate compresed channles, or you have them only in the drumpc?
Would you be willing to share the scene for this? One of my regular venues uses the D-Live and it would be great to be able to load this up and see your routing/settings
You're a gangsta!
Coming back to this video 2 years later, I just tried this on my SQ5 last night because my mix was missing some glue. Decided to try driving the master buss into the red via the makeup gain on the master buss compressor and I cannot believe how good it sounded!
I love that!!!
I am amazed that you were able to mix this fast on a c1500. So crazy how much power you can carry in a rack.
what about if you're inserting FX on your group ins. ie: hypabass? I noticed you need to leave the insert "in"; when you take it out, but still assigned, it does not cause any latency. So would you just turn the dry all the way up and the wet all the way down in this case?
Want more PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!
You know. I LOVE when people do tutorials on YT and it work. But when we follow the steps exactly (correct connections, correct IPs, correct settings in SuperRack, accounted for scene offset etc) it just doesn’t work 😅. Drew. Could you please do a troubleshooting video with some issues and fixes you have found when working with waves scene changes from the console?
Very cool stuff. Would you be willing to share your spreadsheet to another dLive user?
Fantastic. thanks...
WOW! [Disclaimer listening on a crappy laptop speakers lol] Honestly, I thought the raw tracks sounded pretty good. The 15min mix was alright; mostly just HF improvements. But the 1hr mix was amazing. Much more depth, nuance, separation, impact, etc. Thank you for these tutorials. As an experienced mix tech I need someone better than me to teach me these days. Thank you!
This is fantastic, love it :)
Hi Drew, thanks very interesting. Currently setting up exactly the same. In my table I've also made a column called "acoustic latency" which corrects for latency between snare and overhead mics and also the latency of the drum triggers. Currently experimenting with my logic multitracks on what sounds best. Just previewing it over there with the sample delay plugin before dialing it all up in the Avantis . Thanks once more. Looking forward to more content.