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Volvo XC60 t8 summer off Road test.
Volvo XC 60 t8 off road test continues on summer time. This car have air suspension on front and rear. First simple rti ramp test on standard and off road height, there is noticeable difference on articulation. So you have to decide smoother ride, but lower ground clearance, or higher ground clearance, but much more bumpier ride and less articulation. Because comfort is also lost at off road mode, but you can not drive it faster than 30km/h, beyond that car put itself on a constant awd mode and lowers to standard height. You can not adjust drive height at yourself, it is fixed to drive modes.
One thing is not clear, is the Volvo esc work difference at constant awd and off road mode, it is possible that there is minor difference how it let wheelspin. But if you put esc off, edl is off also, so definetly keep esc on when off roading.
ESC, or should we speak EDL, electornic differential lock working ok after all, on winter conditions at previous video were so different because of slippery conditions, that it was hard to estimate how edl really works on braking slipping wheel.
It is funny, few times on video you can notice that engine rews suddenly quite high, same on winter, even so that I try to keep as constant throttle all time.
And notice, before anyone says that wheelspin is bad etc. On open diffs with EDL you need to keep certain rpm on wheels to activate edl. Quite common mistake on these type of cars is that when wheels start to spin, you held off the throttle. But that is wrong, when wheels start to spin, keep constant throttle and let your car electronics do the work.
Some cars can manage it excellent, like Land Rovers, and some manage it very poor. I think Volvo is quite in the middle. BMW Xdrive is quite good also on these category cars.
One thing is not clear, is the Volvo esc work difference at constant awd and off road mode, it is possible that there is minor difference how it let wheelspin. But if you put esc off, edl is off also, so definetly keep esc on when off roading.
ESC, or should we speak EDL, electornic differential lock working ok after all, on winter conditions at previous video were so different because of slippery conditions, that it was hard to estimate how edl really works on braking slipping wheel.
It is funny, few times on video you can notice that engine rews suddenly quite high, same on winter, even so that I try to keep as constant throttle all time.
And notice, before anyone says that wheelspin is bad etc. On open diffs with EDL you need to keep certain rpm on wheels to activate edl. Quite common mistake on these type of cars is that when wheels start to spin, you held off the throttle. But that is wrong, when wheels start to spin, keep constant throttle and let your car electronics do the work.
Some cars can manage it excellent, like Land Rovers, and some manage it very poor. I think Volvo is quite in the middle. BMW Xdrive is quite good also on these category cars.
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You need snow chains on that snow. Why are you so upset on that car? What you try to prove ?
Oisko mahdollista saada kuvia minkälaisia muutoksia piti tehdä linkoon, että sai toimimaan tuossa leikkurissa?
Komeasti lentää lumi! Onko tämä linko konepaja A.Vanne (KOVA) valmistava joka on tarkoittettu niihin 300-sarjan ridereihin? Täältä löytyy Rider 216awd lumilevyllä varustettuna mutta linkoa tekisi mieli, niin ei olisi läjitysongelmia 😁
Joo Kovan linko se on joka juuri tarkoitettu tuohon 300 malliin.
Поставь режим offroad.
not bad, not bad at all!
Kuinka paljon joutui muuttamaan että sopisi, löytyykö kuvia tms muokkauksista?
Eipä kovin paljon. Taisi olla jopa niin että lingosta ei tarvinnut leikata mitään pois, eikä leikkurista. Linkoon piti hitsata hiukan kiinnikkeitä lisää ja hihnan kiristimen kiinnityksen tekemään uuden, sehän on kiinni leikkupöydässä muuten, pitää aina vaihtaa työvälineestä toiseen. Eipä tullut kuvia otettua, mutta voin ottaa. Tälle talvelle askartelin vielä kevennysjousen nostolle, on aika painava leikkuriin verrattuna nostaa ilmaan. Tähän ei varmaan voi kuvia linkittää, että laita jotain tietoa mihin voisin laittaa.
My older xc60 my15 awd manuel would do this alot better kinda disapointed to see this from a newer car how bad it regulate :/
With snow tires or not ? 😅
Yes, studded Pirelli Scorpion Ice Zero 2
So it is hard for the volvo 😅😢
It seems hard with petrol engine
I've seen the XC60 T8 offroading very well in dirt with AT tires - czcams.com/video/rwbNNCvzB8U/video.html
The video did good here as it looks like you have pretty low profile tires like it's summer tires or basic all seasons but what I see here is that the enegine is doing alot of the work here not the rear motor so you're almost basically off roading in fwd as the issue is that the esc isn't calibrated right with the hybrid set up which is a shame imo but I can say the t5 or t6 awd system is a hell of alot better then the hybrid awd system on the volvo suvs, as the xc40 recharge has a better esc control off roading then the T8 powerplant.
Wow this thing gets stuck really easily. I'm not looking forward to winter in our new T8 XC90..... not impressed with Volvo on this aspect.
This car doesn’t have the haldex awd system but a rear electric motor that has only 86hp and clearly the software isn’t managing that as it should for off-road. The real awd would probably handle that situation a lot better, it’s quite capable. Off course, if there’s too much snow for the ground clearance, then it’s just 🤷♂️
As a Swede I would never buy a Volvo, just because the stability control can't be fully disabled. Being able to disable that in snow conditions where you're stuck is often pivotal.
its a shame a car wont let you drive it as intented
Such a nice car! My dad has a vacation home in Norway and he just bought a xc60 t5 awd after owning a d4 xc90. In winter times the Awd is just a necessary thing to have. With the xc90 we were often unable to get up to our house, but with the Awd its a piece of cake. Love Volvo❤🇸🇪
Love this Swedish SUV ❤/thanks great snow test drive 👏👏👏👏
Hope this guy does not sell Volvo's ;))
thats clearly not a driver who is use to off-road driving.........
Thats clearly commnetator who does not know what is talking. I have driven quite a lot an off road, and owned two Unimogs, Jeep yj, wj and kj. And ATV:s also. My driving style is not pedal to the metal,and that is not the purpose of this video. I try to test how is awd system of Volvo XC 60 and it's differential braking works. Also conditions were hard, packed snow and powder like 25 to 30 cm. And I try to "feel" how car is behaving, not just full throttle and see how far it goes.
@@hoppista Ive taking 4 military-courses on off-road-driving with Landrovers, Mercedes and Jeeps - so I think I know a few things about it. Most obvious: you do NOT spinn the weels, spinning the weels only creat 2 things: you go nowhere and you dig the vehicle down.
@@P.E.J. You miss the point of this video. Read and understand description, and then watch video again.
Of course not ,just like you or me 😂..very good test by the way
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damn theres so much more power being sent to the front wheels you would think its toyota awd I wish volvo would give the phev cars a better awd system like t5 and t6 cars have
T8 car of the town. T5 for off road
Yeah, maybe. T6 on gold mine hill at tfl test drive went surprisingly good. Maybe ESC is programmed little different on t6 model. But winter conditions are little different, test will continue when snow melts down.
@@hoppista what will happen to the rear drive when the battery runs out?
@@user-qp8oe1so6m there is another motor/generator called c-isg between petrol engine and gearbox. If battery is empty, it charges battery. So t8 is always 4wd if necessary. Of course it will lower fuel economy a lot.
Never had this issues with my t6 and proper Nokian Hakka tiers
For such roads, with more than 30cm snow, you need adaptive suspension, to lift up the car otherwise you'll lay on the snow loosing the grip. Use the drive mode selector to OFF-ROAD mode, to get the gear ratio modifiyed, to have the electronically reduction gear working. To use this excellent car in OFF-ROAD you need some "extra options", to get the real output in snow, mud and sand. I have this Volvo XC60 T8 since march 2019, I know what she can do in OFF-ROAD, excellent behaviour, but need some "extra", proper tyre for snow, adaptive suspension and the the gearbox with electronic reduction gear ratio.
I think this "offroad mode" in our volvos is only a pseudo offroad mode, just to have it. There are not really much more offroad propertys as in other modes. Gearbox and engineresponse seems to be changed in this mode. But the AWD System performs in all modes as same, i think. I like these 1:1 tests on "4x4 tests on rollers channel" here on youtube - much of the cars here in europe uses the haldex/borgwarner system - like our volvo. So the hardware is the same - lets take audi allroad (2020) - look at the test on the channel, there you can see - volvo does it better - for whatever reason. I think the car as construction - also the software may be different - i think, swedish engineers have other opportunities and abilities - but a volvo also has another claim - at least in the north of sweden. Recently i got a BMW 530e in stockholm to drive to kiruna, there was much snow in dezember. This car also performs really good in snow - especially the hybrid engine on back that can be used allone, so you can have fun. My 2018 V90cc doesnt have en e-engine, so i dont know how it would work in a volvo. Here in austrian alps the v90cc is a sufficient awd car - above all, we have even less snow than in the south of sweden ...
Yes, you are correct. But it can be done well if manufacturer wants to. Example bmw x3 and x5, their slipping wheel braking works whole different level than volvo. My previous car was F25 X3 2.0d, and it worked fine. But I can imagine that electric and petrol engines on different axles might be quite difficult to make work togehter well on hard conditions. But still, with air suspension volvo have good potential, but it have been lost for poor esc.
@@hoppista My v90cc got Airsuspension on back - i think on XC60 is same - but i never saw it, how it works. There should be a setting for me where i can choose the height - but only on rear axle? I think it works only for loading in the trunk - like the old volvos - to keep the level. Electric an petrol per axle is it's a great opportunity, i think. And i trust the engineers that they can do it - this will certainly be improved even further in the near future , but i can say - the 530e worked really good. Out of the box it should better than a haldex, haldex always have latency and construction limitations i think. An electrik engine works instantly - that´s a great advantage i think
@@uweholzer4374 xc60 has air suspension on front and back. Power mode lowers it, off road lift. Also on trunk there is buttons to lift/lower rear, as is yours Volvo. But you can not manually adjust height otherwise . Newer haldex is actually quite good, it connect rear wheels always when start to move at zero speed. And delay is quite short, almost like instant when needed on the move. Same is BMW, but it's working mechanism is different, and bimmer is always rear wheels first, except X1 and 2 series hybrid, which are like Volvo.
If is stock, you may be right. But if you configure your car thinking on off-road, this car can be excellent in off-road. I have this XC60 T8 since march 2019. But I added adaptive suspension and optional gearbox with electronic "reduction gear". When I select OFF-ROAD, the car get high and the gear ratio is electronically adjusted, so I have an excellent behaviour on 35 cm snow. Ofc, proper tyre for such snow. Same behaviour as on my previous Mitsubishi with mechanical reduction gear. This Volvo is one of the best car I ever drove, excellent output and torque, flawless behaviour on highway at HIGH speed (mine isn't limited at 180km/h) or in off-road.
@@sorin-danieldanila8144 T8 has Aisin made 8 speed torque converter automatic gearbox on front, and rear is single speeb gearbox and electric motor. So I have quite sure that there is no modification available for those aftermarket or oem. Also if you have basic suspension, coil springs front and leaf spring back, it is quite impossible install air suspension on it. Or at least so expensive that it is cheaper to change car to model it has it. And those are not the biggest problem, because the problem is poorly configured esc program which is not brake slipping wheel enough to move power other side wheel.
Too big and heavy
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engine?
Cummins 4 cyl 3.9 litre turbocharged. 102hp
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interesting machine is it set up on standard excavator controls with Aux service buttons or what?
It is about 1/10 scale. Check my other video where is this model much more modified, and better off road capability.
I love your range rover? what scale is it?
I have exactly the same car. her to ride on the road lacked power due to weak engine but I just pulled a salon and a silencer because they gave her weight and now she is in the best roller coaster., I would like to ask if she could insert the batteries for a few volts more than there are specified (1.5V) or the motor will burn because of this?
So far no problems, but I have not drive it a lot, so time will tell...
How is your sprocket wheels take this? I hooked 2x 3000 7-cell nimh to a Traxxas EVX-2 and a Titan 550 21 turn motor and broke part: BL6 and BL8BK in about 2 hours. I can put my video in the videoresponse :)
nice car!
nice vid- but i think you should add music and more movies of riding because you havo got great places to ride! 4/5
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