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amazed they performed it up to 33x when it was a flop. would never happen these days, would it?

I think the conductor may soon be replaced by an AI holo ? Yes or No?!🤪 Personally, I think not. Its interpretations of the composer and the composition. The interpretations of the conductors varies and maybe complex.

Wonderful to see this!I discovered the archives years ago looking for an expensive 20th century symphonies I couldn't afford.

No such law ever existed. It was the medieval equivalent of an urban legend. It always existed in "that bad place over there," but in reality, nowhere. That's why it's set in "exotic" Spain.

let's listen to music. You talk toomuch!!

are there other one-note pieces like this?

I loved your assessment. As a conductor, I love the opinions and conversations of thoughtful artists. Thank you!!

After listening to a couple dozen versions of the Fifth, i feel as though the metronome marking Beethoven provided must've been closest to his intent. i'm always leery of musicologists and other authorities who dismiss something they don't like with some silly speculation like "oh, his metronome was probably broken." What i notice in slower presentations is that a lot of short, simple-ish solo melodies, especially in the finale, sit there a little too conspicuously, like a simplistic micro-cadenza. In faster tempos, they live out their purpose as passing phrases that connect the larger ones. And there's so much silence, space, and transparent textures all over the place. Surely the composer was making accommodation for the break-neck speed of the overall work, or there'd be more ornamentation. Even the slow movement demands a brisk walk, lest the final cadences sound like a parody. Plus, i don't see how so many repetitions of the final cadence in the finale make sense unless its just too short and stunted without them. Side note about the way it starts on an up-beat, but its sound normally comes in strongly like a downbeat: in Szell's Cleveland recording, it totally sounds like an upbeat! It's kind of wild. But that's classic Szell. It's written as an upbeat, so it will sound like an upbeat, damn it.

This was great, thank you very much!

I subbed to your channel because of your open and very honest observations and opinions of music you've experienced. One version that most everyone on YT seems to ignore is Tomitas 1975 synthesizer reinterpretation. I don't think it's the best version but it is fun, lively and sometimes ponderous without being too deep. I always remember his almost cartoonish Ballet of the Chicks in Their Shells. If you haven't heard his version I think you should.

Great. Thank you so much.

A very interesting and enjoyable insight into conductors’ interpretations of music. And thank you for introducing me to Kleiber. I have since watched film of him in rehearsal and am in awe of his understanding of the music and his exceptional ability to communicate with the orchestra. Where some conductors appear to be directing the orchestra, Kleiber seems to become an integral part of it.

Great video!

Thank you

“Enthusiastically conducting silence.”

Hi, please could you do a video delving more into the different musical features of opera sepia vs opera buffs? Thanks

Georges Bizet never saw Carmen become a major sucess. He passed away thinking he was a failure at only 38 years old.

Love the Kleiber

He was terrible. Defending him makes you seem shit.

great video and very informative, thank you

To keep the comparison within the realm of "classical" music: with all due respect to and love for Wagner, I find that Schubert's "Der Doppelgänger," with the sparsest of conceivable means, has just as great an emotional impact as the "Ring"!

Does this mean that Berg invented the twelve-tone row in the Doctor scene years before Schönberg invented it?

As a Jewish boy in Brooklyn who started composing at the age of 11, I grew up with Lenny - I attended his revival of Mahler 2 (not the first, but one of the subsequent performances), and witnessed him rehearsing his own "Age of Anxiety"! Those were experiences for a lifetime!

I do love Russian 19th century operas a lot, especially those of Rimsky Korsakov, Mussorgsky, Borodin and Glinka. To me they seem to be pretty unique in many aspects (that might be totally subjective of course): Very colourful orchestration, catchy and recognizable motifs (often inspired by folk songs it seems) and often a lot of choir and ballet scenes. And those operas were the first ones I fell in love with (I never saw any of those operas live though as they are rarely performed outside of Russia). On the other hand, I still struggle to really enjoy many italian 19th/early 20th century operas with the notable exception of Turandot (more interesting harmonies, more choir scenes) and Tosca.

4:23 van Beethoven smiles to us in the notes :)

excellent discussion!

Excellent video and explanations. I always think that conductors try to reach the conception of the composer as close as possible. Maybe they study their lives and the context of that period of time, what was going on when the composer worked on their pieces. How Brahms would enjoy to hear his symphony. Am I wrong? Is it a matter of interpretation, maybe? How the conductors like to hear it? (sorry about any english mistake, I´m brazilian)

Disagree with your three beats analysis. Kleiber does mark three beats all the time in that passage. He just doesn't do the horizontal movement for the second beat. The three beats are there but ever so slightly and all done vertically.

Mahler, Shostakovich 's 5th, Rite of Spring. Impressive Bernstein. I love his rhythm in his recordings and his passion also...

Excellent analysis. Going to see it tomorrow.

So interesting how you analyse Mozart! Please give us more ideas around his operas!

would like to join a chorus of other commentors: please, continuing your videos- comparing different maestros, or any commentary about classical music be it solo, chamber (my pesonal favorite type), anything you feel like sharing. Its a tremendous service to all of us classical music lovers. And if I may add : I find your videos as a much needed fragment of sanity in this absolutely crazy world, with several horrible wars, etc. Many thanks!

wonderful video, thank you very much! I am just a music lover, no formal education. These types of educational presentations, narrated by a professional, considerably increase enjoyment of listatning and WATCHING classical music performed. Who knows why YT "woke up" and sent this video to me, but thanks to the YT for this token of good sense and taste, notewithstanding many very bad decisions by YT

thank u!

Super interesting. I never appreciated what a conductor contributed to a symphony before. Thanks!

??? Of course they can... that's the point of being a conductor ... TO LEAD THE PRACTICE ... and in the performance to be a human metronome.

It is so good to perform under a conductor who really understands the piece and doesn't impose too much interpretation.

I prefer Bernstein.

Interesting. I've never cared for Bernstein's interpretations, and this one can be added to the list.

The only well-known conductor I can think of that equals Bernstein's level of pompousness is von Karajan.

Kleiber's version is faster not only than Bernstein's; it is faster than nearly any other conductor's.

Fascinating! Thank you.

Same music different composer was my favorite weekly program made by Beijing FM radio in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The program was 30 minutes long. Please make more videos like this

Doorstop is killing me. Keep thinking an eyelash is on my phone.

I like very much your explanations. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Insightful. Your observation “It’s a matter of vision” was spot on.

great lesson! thanks a lot.

Kleiber or Bruno Walter ?

I love this!