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are these overhead setups or to capture full kit without any other mics ?

I love A-B. Feels like it is rare to hear these days!

great vid, but why's it panned backwards?

Very interesting, I am into minimal drum recording myself and I made the best experience wir a cheap ribbon-mic pointing from my right shoulder to the snare. But it captures still too much information from my untreated basement-room, so I will try the SM7B as an Mono-overhead. Maybe it can also reduce the Hihat-bleed.

Nicely done! I watched (or rather listened to) the ribbon version as well, both are really useful. Very much appreciate your attention to detail in volume levels and editing. Tip for anyone listening critically: Close your eyes, your brain will focus more on the sound.

Ooooooooooo. First things first imma say all the things inside my head

They all sound the same, what is people talking about?lol

Cool comparison, but there’s an issue with the Glyn Johns example: the kick is significantly off center (it was the same on your previous video).

Great sound! You’ve got a new sub, look forward to more videos

Kick on that A-B is fantastic. Either A-B or recorderman in this specific sample would go long way with couple of individual mics. Fantastic work! 👍 Glynn Johns is a bit hyped method at this point. The truth is, it is VERY tricky technique in general. It’s cool and all until that one too loud hit on floor Tom or ride at the wrong moment. Yeah if lucky you might be able to edit/replace but that’s another subject…

You are unbelieveably consistant from take to take! Really awesome.

Your drums remind me of the donkey kong congos for gamecube

Hi Benno, Thank you for the link, the differences are even more clear in this recording! Kind regards, Patrick

It's A-B for me.

Listened to the other one too, with the non-ribbons. Quite happy that on both I liked Recordman & Glyn Johns the most on both. Since it's less outlay on mics. Recordman is a tighter more focused sound, Glyn Johns is wider, and with more slam for the kick & floor tom. I suppose I might go with Glyn Johns for songs that call for a bigger drum sound, and Recorderman for a more compact drum sound.

Ah, much better with the correction. I still think ORTF sounds a bit muddy compared to X-Y and A-B, and I don't like M-S at all. This time, I think I have to go with A-B. It's still a bit wider than I like, but the sound is very clean. Recorderman would be great if I were looking for something with more "classic rock" character, without the issues of Glyn Johns you mentioned in another post.

Taking into account both sound and imaging, something in between A-B and ORTF would be ideal to me. AB was maybe a little too wide and a bit on the bright side, while ORTF was a good compromise image-wise, but the sound was rather muddy.

Ab always hard to pull off on recording if you want a focus snare sound.. maybe in live it’ll work.. soo recorders and glyn for me

I like the sound of the mod very much!

The amount of useful sonic information packed in this video( and in such a concise format) is astonishing. As someone that would someday like to get out of Lofi-Land, your videos seem to be a boon! Subscribed!

Great side by side comparison!

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have favored the glyn johns as of recent due to the superior stereo separation, great video

Phantastic stuff! Thanks a lot!

Dear Benno, Fantastic video for drum recording enthousiasts, thank you very much. One can hear perfectly the sound stages these different set-ups can display.

Ortf inverted LR

Great comparison! Thnx! Only wish is that A-B, Recorderman and Glyn Johns would be stereo-flipped so that all setups had the same "audiens perspective" =)

Nichts rechtfertigt mehr den hohen Preis eines u87. Da ist absolut 0,0 unterschied. Wenn ich euch zehnmal Frage welches Mikrofon hat "was" aufgenommen . liegt ihr garantiert fünfmal falsch. Deswegen würde ich die Fragen mal andersrum stellen, einfach fragen "welches ist das Neumann und welches ist das SP".... Und dann ist auch schon Schluss mit der Weisheit...

Nice jam, do you think this mic is good for vocals.

Great video. I like Recorderman lately but I go a little wider on the spacing. ORTF is good if I don't want to have to experiment so much, but toms can sound weird.

Glyn Johns, I want to love you, but the kick always gets pulled to the side mic...

I'm curious how you panned these...

Left/Right seem to be mostly swapped? Good demo of the various placements though!

Was ist das zweite mikro?

Nice! Going to have to save up for more ribbon mics (the single one I have just ain't gonna do it). Thanks for the clear, quick reference!

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Thanks for posting this -- so great to have things so concise, and right to the point, without any sale pitches, etc. Thank you!

Which do you think it is the best among them ?

Love the Glynn Johns technique, but it does require a lot of discipline on the drummer to play consistently and not over work stuff. If the part is too busy and recorded that way it can be hellishly difficult to make it sit in a mix without the drums becoming the entire focus. But maybe that's what's needed.

Damn that Beyerdynamic sounds good. Nice balance, whereas the Sennheiser's sound detailed but a bit trebly. SM58 is a classic and doesn't sound great by comparison, but I bet in a noisy live setting it might just get the best sound the easiest

So when you say magnetic gap in the D12, what do you mean exactly? I always wondered how exactly D12's are restored to get their low end back etc.

Hello, thanks for your mic shootout videos and the gorgeous drumming!!! I especially like the sound of the 1st md 421! Can you say something about what exact model it is and from when? Cheers

ORTF for me. With the Glyn John setup the kick was out of center a lot!

Love my 664’s!

im not getting any sound after the mod

Great video! Which capsule were you using on the MK012?

They sound unbelievably similar!

Hope you’re doing well. ✨

Thanks!!! What is the drum setup? Sonds very good