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This is by far the best video I have found on setting up base shakers/tactile transducers. No one seems to mention that these things need to be tuned, especially if running from the LFA on your receiver. So, thank you for putting this together! I am hitting the exact problem you are describing. System fully tuned and timed using Audyssey One (A1 EVO) (it's amazing, by the way Google it if you have not heard it ) on my Marantz SR6014 receiver. I currently have two independent subwoofer outputs, each connected to its own subwoofer. I recently purchased four Dayton Audio BST-300EX. One for my chair, and three for the couch, with an individual amplifier for each shaker. So, power is not my problem. When I run the sub output from my headphone amplifier into the shaker’s amplifiers, I get amazing power. Can barely turn it past three. When I run the LFE out from my receiver, using the Audyssey One corrected LFE corrected output, virtually zero sound unless I crank the shaker amplifiers about three quarters of the way up. I do have two miniDSP 2 x 4 HDs. Sounds like what you are saying is I could split the LFE output from the sub 2 output, and run one straight to the subwoofer, and run the other into one of the mini DSPs. Then I can boost the gain and adjust the EQ to add back whatever Audyssey removed from the receiver's LFE’s output? Is that possible? I watched another video where I downloaded an app for my android phone, called Accelerometer. I can place in my actual sitting position and measure the variance in the vibration in 5 Hz increments from 5Hz up to about 60 Hz, where I would cross over. I can do this just using simple test-tone videos on CZcams. So, basically use the accelerometer instead of a microphone to get the measurements to boost or subtract certain frequencies. Would this work? Anyone else have any input? All input appreciated. This has been making my head ache for a month now! Either way, I hope you come out with that new video soon! Sorry to be so verbose. Typed this too fast!

I only have a 3.1 setup, i don't need to pre amp a huge amount of speakers

I just have svs bookshelf speakers svs center channel and sb 1000 subwoofer for this 3800h

Have this BLU-RAY disc and love it too. How about reviewing JOHN WILLIAMS LIVE IN VIENNA ?!? Got this disc from Germany thru a friend of mine that lives there. My best regards from BRAZIL !!! 😊

Are these harsh at loud listening sessions, treble wise?

Your conpression issues on the Arendals must be a bad tweeter or something else. The arendals are thx certified and measured by tons of reviewers and are know to perform at high spl. I own the 1723s towers and have no problems whatsoever. Watched dune 2 at reference and it was great. That soundtrack true hd is no joke. 😂

I have a Yamaha AVR with one sub-out. I connected a splitter to connect a Sony Sub but the sound was to low vs. the same Yamaha Sub that is both connected to AVR sub out with splitter. I tested the Sony Sub in Sony AVR and its load. Any thoughts on this?

Actually, I am a recording and mixing engineer and we just filter out at 60Hz with third oder filter and around 18 kHz so I think there's no contents that has data on that low end and high end area. Why do you wanna pay more for that area?

How do they compere to the New svs elevetion ultra, or kilipsch rp 800 mii?

Wasn’t worth it to me when you can pick up a pair of 60TXi’s on close out for 2 grand. The F200’s are great but at $2749.99 each my decision was an easy one. The 60TXi’s look great in Red Oak too! 👍

Bought the splitter in my case it didn't make any changes compared to single mono RCA in the red port

Very interesting review. Im struggeling between the 5 x Monitors of the non S and the 2 towers and 3 monitors in a 24qm living room with an 9 qm dining room extension. With what is said the 5x monitors are better with a 60hz crossover in home theater?

I like the class D Crown amps because they are super-efficient, and they drive sub woofers extremely well. I have a Crown XLS 2502 driving a set of Skar DDX15-D2 sub woofers. Even though the XLS series of Crown pro amps have RCAs in, using them only gives about 60% of the rated power. The sensitivity adjustment does help, but if one needs to run the Crown at full power from RCA cables as I did, I had to use an ART Cleanbox Pro. The Art Cleanbox Pro is a converter that makes home sound equipment’s connections compatible with pro-equipment. I am also am using a Crown XLS 1002 as a mono block to drive another 500-watt sub. But in this case, the cleanbox is not needed, as 60% of 1100 watts is plenty enough power. The cleanbox is also not needed for any of these XLS amps to drive 98% of all the theater speakers out there.

Seems like a lot of CZcamsrs are getting into sound demos of their systems playing particular clips which won’t restricted such as that infamous Ready Player One scene. Have you considered doing a video where you demo that racing scene on your Martin Logan’s? Could also be a nice cutaway while you review the whole system as an ML system or simply an Anthem Receiver review? Just ideas… cheers

Me: Marantz AV 7005 pre, Yamaha M85, Marantz CD6006, SVS sb12, Sunfire D-10, Wharfedale EVO 4.2's, I haven't heard anything better yet, stay separates, stay gold pony boy!

Good video. Basic electrical. Ohms law.

my sub has the right and left inputs but my receiver only has a single sub pre out so im wondering if I can still use it without buying a splitter. Either using just the left or right in the single preout

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Hi After watched your video I bought new Denon 3800 yesterday. I am setting up now. Past I was using Onkyo TXNR 636 + Firetv 4KMAX for Netflix, Prime and VLC player for downloaded 4K Atmos Content. Now I am upgrading Receiver and adding 4 ceiling speakers for Auro3D I need your suggestion do I need to upgrade VLC to PLEX and FireTV 4K MAX to NVidia Shield Pro to get Atmos and Auro3D ? My confusion is When Denon AVR has all features VLC and FireTV pass through Audio then what is the need of Plex and Nvidia.

Really appreciate this video. Very clear delivery. Would also appreciate a minidsp setup tutorial like you mentioned. Thanks

They are awesome, super happy with them. One point: if you build a home theater full of folded motion tweeters, the treble is additive, so yea ... EQ is your friend.

Nice , Thanks

Just got this receiver and listening to music i wonder if there's a better option for 1000 to 1500 euro's. Movies sound great, clear, detailed sound but the dac in this amp seems to be the bottleneck for a better experience listening to music. Are the dacs in the Marantz 50 or pioneer 505 better for Tidal etc...? Maybe the Onkyo rz50 also is a better option?

Thank you for this review. I've been considering these speakers, and they're on a very short list. One odd (perhaps) question. Does the 50.75" height include the spikes? And where does one get those washers you're using?

Awesome job, thank you so much I really like how you made it so easy. Recently sold my ML summit X looking make 5.1.4 in my living room/ i have very good Processor (audio control x7 ) and good multi and 2 ch amp ( Audiocontrol 7 ch amp , Bryston 4b set , anthom 352 g2 ) What do you recommend speakers for 70 movies 30 music ? I’m not sure buy the 13a or just XT f200

21:10 There have been a few reports of these baffle issues being warped from F100 & F200 owners, it doesn't instil much confidence nor does it bode well for long-term durability, certainly not something I'd expect from a quality manufacturer like Martin Logan especially their "flagship" floorstander product, the F200 has a RRP of $9999 in Australia which is crazy, sure street prices are much less but still even at $7999 AUD those build quality issues are of major concern :(

Thanks for the video. I'm thinking about using these as side surrounds in 5.1 as a flexible option and maybe use as heights when I add more channels later. Do you think they would do well for that purpose?

Queen Rock Montreal just came out on Friday and it is amazing!

I swear i dont get it. What did you do to get it off the Denon screen?

i'm a total novice when it comes to electronics. can some one please explain why on the back of the speakers the top two connections ,says 8 ohms and the bottom says 4 ohms . in the tech section the speakers are rated at 4 ohms. Thanks

I've listened to Eric Clapton: The Lady in the Balcony, Hans Zimmer: Live in Prague, Roger Waters: The Wall on my Dolby Atmos system. Each was a great improvement over stereo or 5.1/7.1 soundtracks. My favorite is Hans Zimmer's album which features movie soundtracks. I use it as a demo.

Oh man, thanks for the reminder about Snarky Puppy. I've been waiting for a bluray release from them. Exciting that it is in Atmos, weird it's not advertised at all...

How would you make these adjustments for Audyssey XT32 with the mobile app and not the MultiEQ-X PC application?

Here is the link to watch this on CZcams czcams.com/video/76GrBO7sYec/video.htmlsi=tfS6ci005NZR1Fqq

great review thanks.what is the size ov your room

This is quite interesting and helpful. However, I have a weird issue with Dirac BC MultiSub on my Onkyo RZ70... Dirac does the measurements just fine, shows the curves just fine and transfers just fine. However, the results sounded off to me, so I checked with REW and found, that the Subs were set far too high. In fact, Onkyo shows in the "Levels" menu, that you should lower the Sub level by 4.5db if you are using two subs. After doing that, the Bass was just right. This feels like a Bug, and I have no way of knowing whether it is Dirac or Onkyo that is at fault, but that's what I consistently found on my system.

This gives me a good reason to keep using DLBC!

If you’re looking for ideas 😃. A good walk through setting up arc genesis would be appreciated. One thing I’m struggling with currently is subwoofer setup using arc genesis. I move the subs around and take measurements separately. But when run together will they cause dropouts not seen in the independent measurement? Also, where do you put your microphone while running genesis. If you use the X as described on Anthems website two of the microphone location are in the general vicinity of your keester.

Enjoyed the tour. I’ve got 4 theater seats. Thinking I would enjoy a large sofa or theater seats with a lower back. Had to put my back speakers a little higher than desired. Now I’m wondering if I need atmos speakers. Current configuration I feel like I’m in a bubble and I get proper sound effects over my head. When I say proper I’m referring to helicopters and jets and such. I’m sure it’s not as accurate though.

I disagree. My Denon avr doesn't have nearly the features my 1974 Yamaha intergrated. I need tone and a balance control for my listening space and there's no balance control on the Denon.

On which hdmi port you have to connect for getting DENON OSD or GUI Setup? Nobody is showing it and readme doesnt tell it. Im so confused.

Increasing sub gain doesn’t change phase relationships, but you make a good point about shifting the xover frequency. There is a problem with boosting bass with the target curve in Dirac, because it rolls off the boost at the left curtain, so your subsonic gets left behind (assuming you have subsonic capable subs.) Another big issue with boosting sub gain is that if you use inconsistent xover frequencies, you will end up with a really inconsistent response.

Good For You - went straight to the Point and Answered the Question. Thanks! Unlike so very many in CZcams who "Take The Long Way Around The Barn" ---- and often with a convoluted non-answer/answer.

If you ask for a free trial and say you do not want to provide a credit card they will give you the free trial no info required. I played with roon for 2 weeks and no noticeable difference over my hi res qobuz subscription. I run a scarlett solo to adam audio a5x and sub 8 2.1 system. Roon only caused me to spend wayyy tooo much time obsessed with achieving "lossless" status lights. After 3 days I was bored and after the 1st week I didnt even care to explore it. Overhyped

Great video. Does it matter if use just 1 input on MiniDSP for couple subs and transducers or need to use both?

Nice job on the video. I just purchased the carpet spikes and will try it. Regarding EQ I agree you must consider the already established EQ done to the subwoofers along with the frequency response of the shaker/transducer. In addition the EQ must take into consideration the mounting configuration and resonance of the couch/seat and transducer as a whole unit. I have found success with using REW to check the combined frequency response on the seat and taking that EQ adjustments to the mini dsp output for the shakers. Then I run step frequency checks using the “butt meter” with the subs on for final frequency dsp confirmation/adjustment and output checks. This final check may require some changes to the EQ and shaker volume level.