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So…. I noticed ridind rs bushings bs is doable and actually improves the ride allot, it feels like it keeps the geometry better. I’m going to cnc cut some super thin carbon fiber washers to use bs and cancel out the key groove

Hey Owen I wad wondering if you could make an in-depth video on bushing setups. I personally don’t understand why people run different bushings boardside and roadside and stuff like that, so was wondering about that stuff.

Seems so weird having the narrow trucks for stability. On e skates we go wide for stability. Except for the raith vengeance, that's e skate is a downhill board specific setup and it does 80mph. But you don't need a hill, or slides. I know it isn't the same tho

How are they perform in wet?

dude i would love a comparison between this modded bear and some cut off modded caliber 3s raked. some broke riders out there would love it lol i mean, i'm riding caliber 3s and cant spend on precisions...

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK!! Fuck filters! I love this shit. The same shit happened with The new Cast Rogues with the pivot pins and I do not support putting out a broke ass product just to sell the shit. I do not support this plan of selling bad stuff when the riding is at such a high degree and needs something to help push the skill with their support. They aren’t helping anyone’s skill progress.

Great detail review, thank you! I too was drawn to these trucks by the narrowness and baseplate angles. Great to know the short comings.

i was really interested in this product, this review is gold

My friend modded some regular bushings to use on the Aeon and said he liked them better afterwards. I’ve been meaning to try that.

📢 CAT AT 26:53 📢

From what I've experienced with the Gen 1 version of these and what you said about the Gen 2, the bushings are like an overthought version of Venom Freerides without the ability to run anything else. Personally I'd really like to see Seismic design a traditional RKP. Every truck they've released has some proprietary gimmick that forces them into an obscure niche. Innovation is obviously important for the industry, but is the innovation surrounding these really improving anything for the rider that just running a fatter standard bushing couldn't accomplish?

I’m a lil late to this video, but I rode my zealous for several months with the stock venoms and while I liked them, I didn’t love them. I also brought mine to Tepe, and soon after decided I needed to try riptides. Sadly this video wasn’t out yet so I just had to do some testing of my own. After swapping to riptide (wfb 73/78, 93/95, plus pivot cup), I have experienced big performance improvements from the trucks. They feel better for both downhill race-y riding as well as freeride. The riptides gave me a lot more confidence doing standups at speed, and doing bigger standups at slower speeds. These were my first set of dh slalom trucks, I had tried but not owned ronins and rogues in the past, and would be hard pressed to take the zealous off my board at this point.

looking forward to the in-depth review of that bear cast trucks

Companies should pay you to do in depth prototype reviews fr. If I was a business owner, ID WANT THIS FEEDBACK before launching a product!

Im a street skater, but the technology in downhill always interested me, but my question is why do downhiller use such skinny trucks? Like i have wider ones on my deck, wouldnt the smaller truck make it less stable? Because from my experience on transiotion wider boards with wider trucks are more stable.

Phenomenal Review, you are just great at putting hard to grasp riders experience into words! I bought em for the same reason: split angle trucks, narrow hangers at a non precision price! But when trying them, they kinda were left on the pile of gear that's not that fun. it's a little sad, because they look great in theory. Still ride lots of stuff from seismic. Maybe not these...

Nice honest review! If it makes a difference, @Skate Horizons - Michael Skates changed his Aeon's over to regular bushings with a little modification. Might still not make up for the other shortcomings though... czcams.com/video/1SSimBWjfMk/video.html

Was immediately curious what your take was on these when I saw the review announcement yesterday... Never watched a review that more accurately reflected my thoughts on a product. You either ride them so loose that they flop all over the place (without managing to turn much at all) or you ride them so wrenched down that they just don't feel good to ride (and still have really mid steering). I bought these in the fleeting hope that they would be better than I had heard and demonstrate the market demand for non-precision trucks with a lower degree baseplate option... but it's back to bugging Bear every so often about the ever-on-the-horizon 30 degree Gen 6 cast baseplates 🙏

Unrelated to the review but what you explained at 10:35 is such a hard concept to get someone trying splits for the first time to understand 😭

Owen is back at it again, really SHAKING things up with his stellar reviews. Also, who is that funky-looking dude skating behind you? He looks slow. 😅

The Aeons are a bit of a mixed bag. It's amazing that they come in many different widths and bushing combinations. They are also lightweight af. Good overall build quality. They are super stable, but what Seismic actually means is just heavily reduced turnability. The reason for this is the construction of the bushing. Thanks to the roller bar in the center, torsional compression in the bushing is eliminated to a high degree. Something you really want to have in a bushing and what is also responsible for the liveliness in a truck. For cruising they suck in my opinion. Just too stiff and restrictive. But this is something you may want in downhill. Btw regarding to Seismic Gen 1 and 2 should be mechanically identical so I don't know what's going on with that bushing problem.

What an excellent and honest review, keep up the good work!

I dunno what to say about them. Soon as you showed the bushings I noticed the boardside base index and thought "...that looks (self censored)". Having been a 'skater' since 1977 and in my 30's being a Surfer / shaper, I can tell you catagorically that 'Rail Match' is a thing IF you are dealing with anything other than a Single Fin Surfboard... it's to do with Hydrodynamics and skateboards dont have that cus y'know... concrete (censored) wave brah. The good bit of this idiocy is it keeps the Skate Co.s alive for those of us with brains. Sent from UK.

For those of us that were around when these first released- none of this is new news. Which is sad because of how awesome seismic is in the wheel and (now) bushing market for the DH community. So much potential especially now that they have their own bushings. But just falls flat at every turn, literally.

You are truly value added to this community. You saved me money with these. Following your Patreon videos on them along the way helped me see they were not for me. The gear junky in me would have picked them up and learned the hard way. Stay Rad.

This review is pretty much on the level. I’ve been riding the 105 for about 6 months. The longer I ride them the more the flaws come out. Like you said, I got these mainly due to their size and wish not to pay precision prices. My 130 Bears skate way better. The Aeons are pretty stable at speed but turn like crap at cruising speed. Best thing I can say for them is as far as my Libido goes they fit it great. My friend describes their action as they flop more than turn.

*Another top draw review! In-depth and thorough* 🤙🏽👌🏽👌🏽🤟🏽 The "proprietary" bushings are off-puttin but I had though it's a decent enough truck... until the things you shared! Great insights 👏🏽👏🏽

I had the same experience in the old Gen 1s. I had to crank down the nut to eliminate the slop. It was okay, but kind of dead feeling. I went back to my bear gen 6s.

Great review, the detail you go in is always appreciated. I'd love to hear your take on rail match!

Great review! So impressive how deep you went this time. The printed bushing seat and other cast for comparison… really impressed

I'm wondering if you'll try to sand the inner bushing down to fit the seat better (not that you should have to.) What if you tried printing off a seat with a smaller cylinder and make up for the rest of the cylinder radius with stuck down sandpaper?

Ah, good to know I should be disappointed in mine.

Id say it's bad that you are riding such small ones. You should try the 150mm or 130mm I think you have better time. How big are your feet?

I'm just one minute into this but was literally just about to press buy on a set of these. Could not have come at a better time. Really looking forward to your insights 👍

skating cast trucks with a cig in the patch. so based.

bro... your reviews are top tier. NEVER stop posting man your the first guy i look for when looking for a product review 😂🙏

Hello Owen, I always enjoy reading your in-depth reviews. I am a rider who enjoys gradually increasing the speed and difficulty by gradually increasing the wheel width and decreasing the hanger length. I've recently been thinking about purchasing my first narrow precision truck. The thing I'm most interested in right now is a zealous truck, and your review was very helpful (even though there are very few zealous truck reviews). One thing I'm curious about is, does the kingpin on the rear base plate(even if wedging it about 6 degrees to make it about 25 degrees) make it impossible to core a wheel (not only small freeriding wheels but also downhill wheels with larger cores)? It's a pessimistic guess because it has a low angle and tall bushings, but I'm a rider who enjoys coring, so I'm asking just in case.

thank you for this video, also have you been told you look like the guy from brooklyn nine-nine?

What are those translucent pink wheels you're on in a few clips? They look like some cheap mids from Skateshred I've been considering.

To me Ronins always felt like an undoubtedly high performance truck, but overly-optimized and unfun in nature. Honestly I think they're over engineed for most casual sessions. Great for racing, but racing is only a small part of most people's skating. I've been on both generations of cast Ronin and billets from 154mm to 174mm.

That A1 review coming soon?

These are short boards

I had a top down santa cruz first.. Nice wheels, 97mm, no bites. Then I got a demonseed last year, 42" and it's definitely exhilirating especially for ldp, like you say it makes you stay deliberate and think of what you're doing, I don't have enough safety equipment to downhill my equipment,

superb review. just ordered some cuei myself and feeling like I made a good choice. what are you rocking with for a back foot implant now? still Jon's design?

*Another banger video!* 🤟🏽⚡️🤙🏽 Keep it comin dude, love torque blocks/sicktails and boards that simulate/include one 👌🏽

6ft7? holy macaroni

You are too tall for this board 😂, it looks like a toy when you are on it.

Such a great review! Thank you for putting quality content out there. I’m getting the patreon for sure!!!!

Tiny board is tiny.