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How Palestinian Storyteller Jenan Matari is Fighting Israeli Propaganda
Welcome to “Choose Your Weapon,” a podcast series where I interview change makers - artists, musicians, journalists, activists, historians - using their tools to stand up for the oppressed.
Jenan Matari, a Palestinian-American storyteller and media professional, creates educational content about Palestine for her 330K followers on social media (IG @jenanmatari). Jenan is at the forefront of making sure Palestine stays in public consciousness. Through historical education, media literacy, and indigenous storytelling, she strives to counter desensitization and make her audience feel something. She uses evocative imagery and poetry to move her audience into action.
We get into how Western media is manufacturing consent for the ongoing genocide in Gaza and how it's used similar tactics to oppress and colonize people of color for centuries. We also explore how to identify and cut through colonial journalism and Jenan shares storytelling techniques to counter these narratives.
These conversations aim to inspire you to unlock your strength and make a difference in our fight for collective liberation. So, what weapon are you wielding?
00:00 Words as a weapon
7:15 Historical propaganda and oppression
9:50 The "perfect victim" myth
10:20 "Pinkwashing" Palestine
11:30 Exclusion of men's suffering
13:55 The grammar of deceit
17:24 Colonizer's journalism: "Conflict" and "terrorists"
20:55 Colonizer's journalism: "self-defense"
23:10 The Israel Project's Global Language Dictionary
27:30 Language as a distraction
30:09 Jenan's storytelling approach
35:08 Turning pain into art
36:46 How to center Palestinian stories authentically
37:45 Indigenous storytelling
39:18 Who has the permission to narrate?
42:11 Steps to media literacy
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Why Palestinian Director Darin J. Sallam Chose Cinema As Her Weapon
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Palestinian Emotions: Nakba Survivor Shares Why He’s “Always Angry”
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The Last Stop: Why Kypseli, Athens Is the Best Destination in Greece
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Komentáře

  • @elvisiscat
    @elvisiscat Před 3 dny

    And thank you.✊☮️❤️🇵🇸

  • @user-pg7cx9wo1m
    @user-pg7cx9wo1m Před 20 dny

    Im a Black American and I have eaten this before, absolutely delicious !!

  • @FuzzyMalone-jl8lw
    @FuzzyMalone-jl8lw Před 26 dny

    HOW COMMES NO ARAB NATIONS WANT TO TAKE YOU IN ???? CAUSE THEY NO YOU ARE TRUBLE MAKERS WHERE EVER YOU GO . SO STOP LAYING / TAKIJAH 🇵🇱✝️🔯🇮🇱🕎☦️🇵🇱

  • @imamshuzaifah
    @imamshuzaifah Před měsícem

    Subhanallaah, Surely in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find comfort. Those who believe and do good, for them will be bliss and an honourable destination(13:28)

  • @lisaaleong2950
    @lisaaleong2950 Před měsícem

    this postcast was so heartwarming and had so much positive content about Gaza/Palestine, THANK YOU! because even tho I am not Palestinian, I am a mother and a school teacher, I have cried almost daily watching videos out of journalist in Gaza to help with the algorithm and to amplify voices like Hind Khoudary and Bisan, it feels like a dystopia. I cannot go to Gaza, what can I do? I can help tell the truth by as she said believing what my eyes are seeing even if my brain is telling me it feels unreal, how can this be happening in this day and age? Why can the ICJ stop this NOW? and the UN? the Arab League? hello? someone? yeah yeah while you are eloquently trying to prove what should be common sense, real humans are indiscriminately dying, why no one stops it? I am a school teacher from a Small nation island in the Caribbean, I would stop it if I knew how. Seeing Palestine hearts even more broken with every American veto. I think as a Palestinian you are doing a great job with your art for you diaspora. Artist help the collective memory remember beauty so for when it ends your people can remember, see, hear and touch the beauty of who they where before they where robbed of freedom, life and dignity, your hand are carrying tradition which is the heart of a people and what connect then to the land. I just wanted to say thank you.

  • @KRYPTIA-mp4ol
    @KRYPTIA-mp4ol Před měsícem

    Kypseli has no Greeks at all nowdays. Its not the best place to visit in Greece. Its the worse! If you want to see Pakistanis then visit islamaband

  • @cheikhsufi5394
    @cheikhsufi5394 Před měsícem

    787 Sula la hu ala Muhammad great interview 😊

  • @razanabdelrahman316
    @razanabdelrahman316 Před měsícem

    🤍🙏🏼

  • @sanjanasarna4771
    @sanjanasarna4771 Před měsícem

    What a powerful conversation that emphasizes the importance of using your voice as your weapon. It has been extremely insightful for me to understand the impact of language and the media we consume. The idea of “pink washing” stood out as it portrays Palestine as Muslim and in turn, homophobic, thus dehumanizing them implying they deserve suffering. These ideas are testament to the hypocrisy that surrounds us. This podcast addresses important topics in a way that has left me more informed and conscious of the way I navigate and talk about the occupation and genocide.

    • @elvisiscat
      @elvisiscat Před 3 dny

      Yes, yes, yes, & yes.❤️ 🌈 🙏

  • @daddoukos
    @daddoukos Před měsícem

    These videos are, usually, made by real estate companiew to sell their undervalued goods at a top price. Kypseli is a really ugly and dangerous/dirty place. 30-40 years back it was fine.

  • @georgelalos8528
    @georgelalos8528 Před měsícem

    Although your video is really nice and pleasant, though the first thing you did is to interview Africans living in Athens? Really? It should be the exact opposite and then after you have spoken with the Greeks you interview some of the foreigners living in Greece. Imagine if i go for a trip to Nigeria and first thing to do is to seek out an American tourist instead of the locals...! I say this with the outmost respect of course. Cheers!

    • @shivan_sarna
      @shivan_sarna Před měsícem

      Thank you for the comment. But the point you’re missing is: they are Greek. Born and raised.

    • @shivan_sarna
      @shivan_sarna Před měsícem

      There are hundreds of videos of the kind you’re describing. I’m sharing the culture of communities that make up a city like Athens. You won’t find this on any other channel. And I’m glad you’re here

  • @PavlosPavlos__-sr8ht
    @PavlosPavlos__-sr8ht Před měsícem

    Αν είσαι αραπης καλή είναι η Κυψέλη

  • @demo35440
    @demo35440 Před měsícem

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸

  • @user-it6jy6xr6s
    @user-it6jy6xr6s Před měsícem

    One more documentary cutting off what the indigenous people have to say. What would they say if they were asked? About how multiculturalism was imposed against the will of the locals. About the criminality rates that are crazy. About the educational system that is being flooded by people who don't speak Greek and that means that children who already speak greek have to slow down. About the exploitation of the health system. About the sense of belonging and common culture that is being lost. About the fact that despite MC Yinka feels that this is an ideal world, it is not. Do I accuse for all the above Mr Kaluta and MC Yinka? Of course not. As human beings I respect them. I disagree with them politically though. For all the above I accuse the Greek governments that we have had since the mid 90s. Left, centre or right. Is this racism? Nope. I have not mentioned race. This is culturalism. I am talking about elements of culture that are being lost despite (or to be exact against) the will of the majority. That leads directly to the annulment of democracy in practice. That gives way to totalitarianism and populism. To anti-democratic sentiments. I am indigenous of Kypseli. So are my parents. So were my grandparents. The change is not for good. Kypseli is worse than what it was some 30-50 years ago. That does not mean that I have something against Afro-Greeks or whoever else. I grew up with them. But that does mean that i am alienated from the polity that we have since my point of view is systematically and deliberately excluded. What do I mean practically speaking? My home has been broken into twice in the last decade. That was unheard of in the past. I have to pay for private school for my kids since the level at public schools has become very low. I have to pay for private health since queueing in public health sector is inhumane. And above all is the feeling of (not) belonging. To put it simply. No problem with people of other race. Huge issue with the fact that the Greek governments never took into account their percentages and the will of the locals for a given cultural identity. We are not Americans. We are not a nation of immigrants. We are not British, we had no colonies, we have no moral obligation to accept people from ex-colonies. The fact that we are willing to help does not mean that we have an obligation to accept everyone or that it is everyone's right to obtain citizenship.

  • @Alex11V
    @Alex11V Před měsícem

    Thanks

  • @deanpapadopoulos3314
    @deanpapadopoulos3314 Před 2 měsíci

    Great job!!

  • @diasspeed
    @diasspeed Před 2 měsíci

    Kypseli? Come on....this area does not have any tourist interest and is one of the poor areas with very high percentage of immigrants (legal or not), not a very safe area to walk around especially at night time. It would be a mistake for any tourist visiting Athens to spend his time there. Why do you spread this false information? People will watch this video and will be misled. Even the Greeks from other areas avoid Kypseli, unless they have a good reason to go there.

  • @christos1917
    @christos1917 Před 2 měsíci

    This is not kipseli.....this a african-islamist colony! I was living almost 20 years in this neighborhood the locals, kicked us out...the africans lied...stupid propagandists The streets was full of life,full with nightlife and theaters! illigals immigrants made the neighorhood full with artists look like getto

  • @ummyasmeenalisbaniyyah3629
    @ummyasmeenalisbaniyyah3629 Před 2 měsíci

    This is not Islam, this is a cult. The prophet Muhammad sallahu alahi wa salam nor His companions NEVER did such practices. This is something people started to do after and carry on passing it onto the following generations. These practices are BIdah and you know it.

  • @orenc1978
    @orenc1978 Před 2 měsíci

    Kypseli in specific and all of Athens in general are a SHITHOLE. Ugly graffities everywhere, garbage outside all over the place, urine smell, bunch of shady people, drugs and zombies 3 minutes from the tourist's area, traffic gam with narrow streets with pollution, UGLY and old buildings , earthquakes quite often - YAYYK

  • @Atreas40000
    @Atreas40000 Před 2 měsíci

    Children of LEGAL migrants always had the right to citizenship in Greece. Children of ILLEGAL migrants didn't, until 2015. Small correction there.

  • @damnyourpasswords
    @damnyourpasswords Před 2 měsíci

    She talked about Oppression in Greece ? Nobody presses these guys, we like them! But Greece is opressed by 1 billion Africans and another 1 billion Central Asians, that try to come here by any means. They are all nice people, but there is a problem of housing in Kypseli.

  • @yaelzivanartist
    @yaelzivanartist Před 2 měsíci

    They probably needed to mop the floor after that show 🥵

  • @peterkollas9357
    @peterkollas9357 Před 2 měsíci

    Death nothing else

  • @tyxeri48
    @tyxeri48 Před 2 měsíci

    Κ υ ψ έ λ η=home.

  • @Realizationist
    @Realizationist Před 2 měsíci

    Visiting Greece to provide African food..makes sense

    • @shivan_sarna
      @shivan_sarna Před 2 měsíci

      So, you're going to tell me if you go to Greece you're only going to eat Greek food? And completely ignore the city's multicultural side. If you go to America, will you only eat burgers?

    • @shivan_sarna
      @shivan_sarna Před 2 měsíci

      This video is for people who want to go deeper and understand the fabric of a place. Also cool if you want to stay in the city center and eat overpriced touristy food.

    • @Realizationist
      @Realizationist Před 2 měsíci

      @shivan_sarna USA has no special kitchen than Burgers,Hot Dogs and Steaks.u get this international food in all the World.But if you go to Greece or Italy you dont eat asian,MC Donalds and no FUFU with your fingers

    • @shivan_sarna
      @shivan_sarna Před 2 měsíci

      @@Realizationist New York for example is one of the most diverse places in the world. I am assuming you haven’t been. Part of traveling is learning and experiencing different facets of a place.

    • @shivan_sarna
      @shivan_sarna Před 2 měsíci

      @@Realizationist and what’s wrong with eating with your hands? Don’t tell me you go to Italy and eat pizza with a fork and knife

  • @geogeo2299
    @geogeo2299 Před 3 měsíci

    8:04 Πολύ hardship στη μασαμπούκα λέμεεε

  • @seamantrade7919
    @seamantrade7919 Před 3 měsíci

    Απο που εισαι? Ισραηλ?

  • @vmencheriki
    @vmencheriki Před 4 měsíci

    this is not islam did the prophet did this !!!

    • @fedayeen_revolutionist
      @fedayeen_revolutionist Před 22 dny

      You don't have to do what the prophet exactly did in order to believe in what he did and asked us to do. What matters is that we all prostrate to the same God. We're all different as human beings, and it's more humane to accept our different habits and perceptions of things that were influenced by prior cultures and traditions of thousands of years.

  • @user-tn4nr5hm6u
    @user-tn4nr5hm6u Před 4 měsíci

    Greece is not racist so let’s please keep the woke talk in america.

  • @bofostudio
    @bofostudio Před 5 měsíci

    Cosmopolitan is a word with greek origins, and I hope Greece will always have a home for what it means.

  • @user-hz8tc4cp4c
    @user-hz8tc4cp4c Před 6 měsíci

    Jerome has picked up the gestures of Greek men. ❤ Love this for them. I’m nervous of the neighborhood, now but my yiayia lived in this area for many years up until she passed away.

  • @hamzaeqab
    @hamzaeqab Před 6 měsíci

    Nice work good luck 😊

  • @cherianneraddatz7452
    @cherianneraddatz7452 Před 8 měsíci

    Promo-SM

  • @jpaleas
    @jpaleas Před 8 měsíci

    I was born in Kypseli in the late sixties but grew up in Glyfada. left as a teenager in the 80s and immigrated to the US. Recently I visited back after 38y and will be coming back for another visit soon, Kypseli is on my bucket list of places to visit! Very excited to see the diversity of different cultures in Athens and especially in my town of birth! Thank you for this video! And btw your Greek is very good 👍🏻

  • @gm67
    @gm67 Před 9 měsíci

    As a greek it is monumentally laughable that Kypseli is considered the best destination. What a joke. Probably one of the bottom 10 places in whole Greece. Always admire tourists for their ignorance. Imagine going to thousand of better places around the country.

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda Před rokem

    awesome ! 👍

  • @dimitriosv.9964
    @dimitriosv.9964 Před rokem

    shivan, i love your spirit and your vibe. you such a open, positiv person. j hope the best for you

    • @shivan_sarna
      @shivan_sarna Před rokem

      Thank you for watching and for your kind words! I wish you the best as well!

  • @dimitriosv.9964
    @dimitriosv.9964 Před rokem

    02:48 that woman is typical for athenians. they have he warm heart of greeks. she calls you my girl,that is equal to my child, she gives her best to help you, but in the moment she did it, she abandoned you 😂😂😂😂

    • @shivan_sarna
      @shivan_sarna Před rokem

      Sounds like my ex. Must be a Greek thing.

    • @dimitriosv.9964
      @dimitriosv.9964 Před rokem

      @@shivan_sarna nope,athens. i'm from south greece. in my area we just know two tempers. full love or full hate,there is no place for something in between.where from greece is your ex from?

    • @shivan_sarna
      @shivan_sarna Před rokem

      @@dimitriosv.9964Mani but grew up in Athens.

    • @dimitriosv.9964
      @dimitriosv.9964 Před rokem

      @@shivan_sarna see??? he get ill mannered in athens. he is from my area,but got wrong taught

    • @shivan_sarna
      @shivan_sarna Před rokem

      @@dimitriosv.9964Yes, exactly. Where are you from?

  • @spearokasimis9325
    @spearokasimis9325 Před rokem

    Your Greek accent is soo cute!

  • @TMPOUZI
    @TMPOUZI Před rokem

    Ι don't have any problem with immigrants living in any part of Greece, as long as they are lawful and they don't try to change the basic culture, tradition and mentality of each city they live at. Of course they can practice their ancestor's culture as well

  • @ErisstheGoddessofmanhwas

    Nice video , i really enjoyed it .

  • @MAtug-un9wo
    @MAtug-un9wo Před rokem

    Ben türküm ve eşim Polonyalı 1 kızım ve 1 oğlum var . Kaziu and aga ❤.. Polonyalı’lar iyi insanlar .

    • @Goldberg1234
      @Goldberg1234 Před 4 měsíci

      Dzięki, ja też lubię Turków, jak większość Polaków. Pozdrawiam i życzę wszystkiego dobrego.

  • @NickZaharakisChiefOfficer

    I rarely talk about other ethnic groups of people. We are all human beings I am sure there is space for some other nationalities in Greece bare in mind Greece or officially Hellas is the cradle of western civilisation a civilisation that begun 4000 years ago, the Greek Language is spoken since 1500 Bc which makes it the oldest alive spoken language in the WORLD! now I would like to remind that population is a little less than 11 million including immigrants. Greece has only experienced this wave since mid 90's and it is not something middle aged people and over can absorb this fact. The new fact that Greece is losing gradually culturally , linguistically, religiously it's homogenous appearance. With great respect to other nationalities living in my country we can coexist and we welcome them to assimilate our culture but if we over do it the dangers of changing our nation completely and seeing it no more as it has been for millennia is REAL and not an over exaggeration. Every nation has it's limit and Greece is at the borderline of simply becoming ALIEN. Do we want that? Outsiders may not care but it's non of their business.

    • @bozeeke
      @bozeeke Před 8 měsíci

      You are very friendly towards immigrants because don't understand that this is a sinister agenda to change western nations' demographics. You live in a country that is still 95% European (and 90% ethnically Greek in your country's case) but that is changing and will have dire consequences for ethnic Greeks. As a person of Greek descent living in the USA, I've come to understand that racial/ethnic diversity is not a strength, but rather a serious, dangerous weakness. What is happening in places like England, Germany and France where the populations are quickly becoming Muslim migrant majorities and no-one can say anything without being punished because of a sense of collective guilt about past colonialization, or here in America where we are turning ourselves into a multicultural mix of different racial and ethnic groups with no majority group and are allowing it because of left wing white Americans' collective guilt about slavery, well this can happen to other countries in Europe like yours as well. It is important for Greeks to not be so welcoming going forward and whenever those with an agenda try to silence or censor you, proclaim clearly in large numbers that you were not slavers or colonizers (instead you were slaves to the Ottomans at that time) and you object to your country being overrun by foreigners. Otherwise, the same fate that is befalling people of European descent here in America will eventually happen to you too.

  • @johnnywires943
    @johnnywires943 Před rokem

    You come to Greece and end up having African food?Am i missing something here?

    • @shivan_sarna
      @shivan_sarna Před rokem

      Greece isn’t only about Greek food. And this is the driving idea behind The Last Stop - to explore the culture of communities often overlooked. I’m sure every tourist will end up having a souvlaki in Monastiraki - I don’t need to show the obvious :)

    • @johnnywires943
      @johnnywires943 Před rokem

      @@shivan_sarna You haven't gut a clue love. First there is a massive problem in Greece with illegal and economic immigration. You do not go to Greece to eat carried goat. The point of visiting that country was to see its beauty and taste it's food. You spent a whole episode on showing an African family eating and living in Greece for what? You could of done that in London. Also check that a few weeks ago a group of Pakistanis were caught by the police getting ready for a terror attack. Check it out. The Greek people do not deserve this. Showing Africans living in Greece. You must have the iq of a cucumber or you love hunky punky African style. Looking forward to your next review. What will it be I wonder? Eating sushi with the Taliban. Moron.

  • @alexb1584
    @alexb1584 Před rokem

    Kypseli is a terrible neighbourhood of Athens, much pollution,no space, old buildings. Greeks have moved from there many years now.

  • @joyetike1800
    @joyetike1800 Před rokem

    I will not say kypseli is ‘the best’ destination in Greece but I believe it’s worth visiting. If you’d like to witness something different from beaches and archeological structures, then visit kypseli.. As a black tourist, I felt connected with the people. Thank you for this video 🙂

    • @shivan_sarna
      @shivan_sarna Před rokem

      Thank you for watching! I think Kypseli offers something unique and it’s definitely worth a visit!

    • @asprigata8372
      @asprigata8372 Před 4 měsíci

      Τι να δούνε μονο βρωμιά και μουντζουρες έχει πέρασα από εκεί και έχασα πάσα ιδέα όχι ότι άλλου είναι καλύτερα αλλά να θέλεις και τουρίστες τι να πω

  • @zeikerd
    @zeikerd Před rokem

    Thanks for showing something else in ATH.

  • @killbill1175
    @killbill1175 Před rokem

    Greece is becoming Greekstan! It hurts to see an ancient civilization losing its identity through illegal immigration. As a Greek/Canadian, I feel sad to see my beloved Greece turning out to be like another Canada that has no identity.

    • @giorgio5153
      @giorgio5153 Před rokem

      Αλήθεια ; Ποιος κατέστρεψε οικονομικα και πολιτισμικά τις χώρες τους άραγε ; Σίγουρα όχι αυτοί που εσείς ψηφίζετε και υποστηρίζεται τόσα χρόνια , τράβα πιες κάναν φραπέ ρε

    • @alexb1584
      @alexb1584 Před rokem

      ​@@giorgio5153 Ναι γιατί ως γνωστόν εμείς οι Έλληνες έχουμε καταστρέψει πολλούς λαούς οικονομικά και πολιτισμικά.

    • @giorgio5153
      @giorgio5153 Před rokem

      @@alexb1584 η χώρα σ ρε Αλέξανδρε δεν είναι στο ΝΑΤΟ και στην ΕΕ ή κάνω λάθος ;;; Επίσης αν θες να το πάμε ιστορικά πάντα τα παπάρια των δυτικών δυνάμεων γλυφουμε και εξυπηρετούμε τα συμφέροντα τους , αυτά για εμάς τους "νεοέλληνες" μέτα την επανάσταση

    • @alexb1584
      @alexb1584 Před rokem

      @@giorgio5153 Εμείς ούτε αποικίες κάναμε στην Αφρική, ούτε σκλαβοπάζαρα για να νιώσουμε ντροπή και να μου λες ότι πρέπει να υποστούμε στον σβέρκο μας τον καθένα. Τώρα τα άλλα που λες περί ΝΑΤΟ κλπ δεν νομίζω να έχουν και μεγάλη σημασία. Μετά τον β παγκόσμιο οι μεγάλοι χωρίσανε τον κόσμο και εμάς μας τοποθέτησαν εκεί που ανήκουμε.

  • @ramanmehra2689
    @ramanmehra2689 Před rokem

    That must be a wonderful experience! Thanks for sharing 😊