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At the end of FY23 there was < £0.1m in amounts borrowed (the last of the Co-op bank loan was paid in Jan 2023) - so minimal debt compared to >£10m back in 2014

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Hi Andreas - from the financials the short appears to be to cover cash outflows from the club's operations (not uncommon for Championship clubs) Looking at 7 years from 16/17 to 22/23: Cash absorbed from operations (£96m) Cash made from transfers (net) £51m [£206m sold, £155m bought] Cash spent on capex (facilities etc) (£10m) The sum of those 3 are cash outflows of £55m The owners have funded £49m over that period (majority appears to be through equity)

@@NumbersBehindtheNet Thanks. According to Transfermarkt, Swans have bought in that period for £135m and sold for £232m. Your numbers are different (for almost £50m). So, if I understand correctly, you are saying that the owners haven't taken money out of the club?

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Birmingham certainly not the only ones Des!

it's not it's out of date 2022/2023 is pre-Knighthead the club made a 21.43m profit 2023/2024 and have owners that are worth over 19billion. 15M has just been injected into the club on top of that and a 4.2m sponsorship deal with undefeated and Nikie collaboration plus the pay per click generated 16m to date and is ongoing. The club turned over 40m 21.43m of that is profit.

No there isn’t it’s worse, Instead it’s the Salary Cost Management Protocol (SCMP) is the Financial Fair Play rules for all League One and League Two Clubs. The SCMP requirement is whereby a Club's Player-Related Expenditure shall not exceed the sum of 60% or 50% of the Club's Relevant Turnover for League One and League Two Clubs respectively. So In theory its worse

Correct that next season Birmingham will have new rules for next year - but will still need to be assessed for this season

You're right Mark but they can also include 100% of"football fortune income" (may be the oddest name yet!) which includes player sales and equity cash injections in that revenue number

@@Mark12106 In the first season following relegation the sum is 70%. There are some exclusions on this relating to home grown players under the age of 20 which are not counted in the wages turnover. This will exclude the wages of Jordan James and George Hall for a start. A number of players currently on substantial wages are out of contract this summer and probably a few contracted players will not want to play in League One. They will generate additional, albeit, modest transfer fees and savings on wages. If Real Madrid win the Champions League Blues will get additional £3.5m on the Jude Bellingham deal. The new owners are spending £15m this summer on a variety of projects across the club including improving the corporate facilities in the railway end stand and two match day fan zones to increase revenue. I don't think they would be doing this if they were not confident that they can make the team successful on the pitch. They can and, they will. The financial situation is not great for many clubs but we really don't have the full details. Much will depend on what the club does to generate income but their plan is to do this via corporate sales and partnerships. All Blues fans just need to be glad this relegation did not come 12 months ago before Knighthead took over. We really would have been in serious trouble if that had happened. Believe in the club. KRO.

Under 20s and players on 3/5 year contracts are not declared the club can spend what they like on players..​@Mark12106

Don’t be, our finances are fine. We’ve generated 40m+ in revenue this year.

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It's not true it is bullshit the club made a 21.43m profit 2023/2024 and have owners that are worth over 19billion, 15M has just been injected into the club on top of that and a 4.2m sponsorship deal with undefeated and Nikie collaboration plus the pay per click generated 16m to date and is ongoing.

@@JustMyFish haha dreaming it’s not 19 billion ! It’s 4 billion and Tom Wagner doesn’t have it in money in other things maybe you aren’t that rich your just like us black burn ages ago your fucked

@@JustMyFish haha 19 billion it’s no where near !! He doesn’t own all of you and Brady is 300 million and isn’t really there is a face

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Think we'll be top 10 under a full Rohl season

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Its interesting to see the figures. Im not sure i fully understand how to turn it around, but then im not a business man. There are ways Chansiri can bring money into the club, but it has to go into the club and not into his pocket. He could do better with making sure we sell players and don't just give them away or refuse to sell. We shouldn't be where we are, we are a big club. The ground needs some work, it's old, rundown and the facilities are lacking. We got 33 thousand in at Hillsborough for the last home match of the season, the fans love their club, no doubt, but they don't love the owner or the stunts he pulls. Even if he leaves, he still owns our stadium, getting it back may be an impossibility. It feels like a dictatorship. Chansiri is abusive to fans, to questions we ask and he should be investigated for financial mismanagement and for his attitude towards the supporters. It really seems Danny has told him to leave the playing side to him, which I think past managers struggled to do. Chansiri is far too involved in things that he knows nothing about, the footballing side. I, personally hope he leaves but who would buy us. If people have made offers, then I take it the price is too steep and the terms not favourable. Its a stranglehold. I'd love to see it change. If we can stay in the Championship then let's hope we can change our fortunes around.

I don't think Chansiri is as bad as he is painted by a lot of fans. Certainly there are clubs with worse chairmen. Certainly Chansiri has not learnt lessons, learnt lessons and then seemingly unlearnt lessons since he arrived. Whilst he has neglected some essential aspects, he hasn't walked or left us to rot as some chairmen do. Carlos was an inspired first appointment for a while, though the successors were not. I think Bruce screwed Chansiri and the club. I think the abuse that he gets from fans is counter productive and the vitriol is completely out of order. If you were chairman and had overseen the worst start to a season in 157 years with fans baying for you, would you have had the guts to appoint a man with no managerial experience to be the youngest manager in the league? Appointing Danny and giving him his support team was an absolute masterstroke and I don't know many people who would have been that brave. We have fans who chant "We want our club back." and "Get out of our club." The club has never belonged to the fans. In good times and bad, there are always fans who want to agitate for some sort of change, be It in the leadership, strategy, transfer market, facilities or whatever. Some fans taking an adversial approach is normal. Turning that into personal abuse with threats of violence is, in my 50 years experience of supporting the club, a more recent phenomenon. It is in the club's and the fans' interest that Chansiri succeeds. Let's hope Saturday is a good day and that there are many, many better days to come.

Thanks for the detailed comment Angie - really interesting to get a viewpoint from someone much closer to the situation.

Thanks Tim for taking the time to put together a considered & detailed point of view

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Cheers James - just a Powerpoint exported video with a bit of video editing. The 'morph' transition does a lot of the heavy lifting!

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Will definitely help Scottio but not until the year after (Newcastle's financial year runs from 1 July-30 June so will have more finnacial impact in 24/25 season)

​@@NumbersBehindtheNet Yeah that's what I was referring to, you say we need to find another £37million before the end of June, well the Adidas deal will take a big chunk of that surely.

based on them being the 24/25 kit partner - i would imagine more of that revenue coming the following year (it will likely be spread over the terms of the deal). it's also likely that newcastle have also secured or improved existing commercial deals with their champions league football that will help this year :)

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12.2m is the financial loss for FY21 (13.7m was the operating loss before interest & tax) - for Premier League "profit & sustainability" rules the club are allowed to adjust their losses exclude certain costs (e.g.youth development), for 2021 they are also allowed to adjust for estimated loss of revenue from covid. Transfer fee amortisation is included in all figures (both operating losses & PSR losses) Source files here: find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/02529667/filing-history (2021 accounts, page 11)