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@@kevindean9613 I fully submerged my Rohloff a few times in rivers with no ‘known’ issues. I think if you do end up submerging it I would do an oil change as soon as reasonably possible afterwards.

@@RidingBicycles I agree , I haven't used either of the Rohloff bikes for a couple of years now , I've had the Rohloff slip gears a couple of times ,They are both very clever systems but for me the belt drive ,bike balance ,gear action & being able to swap out wheels wins .Pinion even remind me when to change oil .The electric gear change looks very cool .

@@wilhelmmatthee6675 Sorry can’t help you with that, I have only run 29er 2.2 ish or 27.5 by 3”.

Hi, I am 171cm tall (5ft 7”) I went with Salsas size guide and got a small. The bike feels great, but I think I should have gone for a medium because the very long seat post is on its limit and then some.

To add to that I don’t think I have long legs, my inseam from crotch to floor is 81cm

Heavy touring/mtb bike instead of a road bike on a very hilly commute which is Everest every 20 work days.

@@RidingBicycles I don't understand what you mean?

@@DUCzillaMonster The rohloff is on a heavier off road touring bike. An off road touring bike is always going to be slower on steep up hill tarmac roads than the light road bike I am comparing it to.

@@RidingBicycles ok, just about the weight of the hub, i should see, its the hub against my 3 to 7 derailleur setting now, not that much of a difference in guess, belt driven

@DUCzillaMonster When you take into account the weight of the front and rear mech and the the cassette and chain you might be taking the Rohloff is 400 to 500 grams heavier. Check this article out for the facts about Rohloff and Pinion. www.cyclingabout.com/weight-difference-between-derailleur-pinion-rohloff-bikes/

Hi, if you mean where we camped on the beach it was here. maps.app.goo.gl/fF9UYroi5Zk6uApd7?g_st=ic

It could go very fast. I would say approximately 20-30mph on a flat depending on wind conditions. BUT I want to add I was riding this on private roads. These powerful kits are illegal on public roads and I do not condoned the use in public spaces as they are giving all cyclists a bad reputation. If you are after a kit for public use make sure it has required wattage and speed limit and it can’t be activated with a trigger throttle, it needs to be pedal assist.

There is plenty of room in the Sherpa frames for fatties. They are specd on the website to take up to 3” for 650b and 2.5” for 29ers.

@@RidingBicycles That's great to know! I just bought a second hand one. I assumed the 3" tyres you put on were on 29s, but i'm an idiot. Regards.

Sweet. Nice bike. My brother had one of those. Still plenty of use to be had in the bike. 90’s mtb bikes make great touring bikes too.

Depends on your terrain. If I was mainly tackling single track and rough terrain I would like flat bars. Suspension optional as it depends how fast I would want to go. All down to terrain, luggage, desired speed over said terrain, confidence and personal preferences

The Outback is a mountain bike at heart if you ride mainly single track or rougher stuff then the Outback would be the better option. If you are planning to ride mixed surfaces and a little bit of the rougher stuff then the Scrambler could be the better option. The Outback is designed to take some abuse and heavy loads so it is not light. Mine came in at about 16kg with a sus fork and about 14 - 15kg with the carbon. The gear range though helps you get over anything, it would impact your speed though, if speed is an issue for you then either bike might not be the best option and both are made for enduring long miles carrying loads without maintenance issues.

Thank you 🙏🏽

Hi, I don’t have that frame anymore, it was a lovely frame and I regret selling it. Well I regret selling every single bike I have ever owned!!!! But that would mean I would need a space for about 150 which I don’t have. I am building up a Brothers Cycles Mr Wooden with downtube friction shifters at the moment. That will have a Velo Orange 28/46 crank and a 11-36 cassette, I think that will work really sweet. As regards to the set up on the Black Mountain. It could handle big/big without any issues and small/small did not cause the chain to sag. But I did find that the chain did drop a couple of times when moving on to the small chainring as the rear mech would quick take up the slack. The only reason I kept the 46t cassette on was because that is what I had when I was using one friction shifter to use it as a 1x11. I can’t honestly remember the chainring sizes on the 2x setup I think it was something like 28/44.

@@RidingBicycles Thanks, good stuff. I went and googled the Velo Orange to see how a granny 28 can go with a 44, and recognised it from a Path Less Pedaled video I've yet to fully watch. I've been side tracked into researching 2x options, for MTB crossover into skinny tyred riding and also MTB 'bikepacking' touring. It was cool seeing your field review of the White cranks, out on dirt, and it's very affirming to have you tell that you're choosing a 28/44 chainset. That's the synchronicity I'm famous for! I'm writing a lot about 2x 'MTB' cranksets with a 14t step. The 22/36 was (is?) a favourite combo for many like myself, but 10t step became some kind of new standard spec. But Shimano have now adopted 14t step in their new Cues line-up so it can bridge from MTB to what they call 'trekking' and 'urban' bikes. So the 14t step front mechs are the missing link for finding solutions for new builds of rigs with boost spaced rear ends and wide chainlines. The 14t step on granny/big 2x BCD cranksets gives the options to pair with grannies 22, 24, 26 and 28. So I've been saying how 28/42 is surely something that has demand from 'gravel' type riders and loaded tourers. And here you are! Bravo. I'm keen to see some video of 12 speed rear ends being combined and working with 11/10 speed front 2x sets. That gives guys like you, cranking the big gears on skinny tyres, that 10 at the rear. But a 12 speed build to try something largely untested is a big deal, and not necessary with your 28/44 range. It will be good to see those 16t step downshifts tested and what rear mech and 11-36 cassette you use. Road or mountain and length of cage on the rear mech. Like you say in this video, friction shifting is the key to opening up possibilities with the elimination of index pull ratio incompatibilities, so road and MTB groups can be mixed. (Like 12 speed Microshift thumbies on the wishlist.) So that's back to what I really liked about this vid, and a good place to say good luck and best wishes with the new build and all. Thanks again. Das Steel.

I think it is the same there, they need to try and cling on to something to get the tourists excited :) :)

And they don’t make them anymore. But I think other brands may do. Eg Velo Orange, dia compe etc.

I just fold up as per Gates instructions and then just put in a plastic bag and it works fine. Just be conscious of where you put it in your bags so not to twist it. I have a bag that is just for tools and it sits in there fine as it is a bag that hopefully you never need to go into to

Yep

Gates

Sure is! Great ride!

East west - Banff to Vancouver off road 👍🏽

Hi the campsite in the thumbnail is closed at the moment. But if you look at this map with the points of interest turned on I have put on some of the accommodation I am aware of. ridewithgps.com/routes/45931023?privacy_code=of0S4oyh3CGbm4yygLbnJWKhMruiBWVn

Oh and the time of year would have been when the video was uploaded. Cheers

March 2023 the ride was done

Just type in Gates Belt Snubber. There are some that connect on the derailleur hanger and some on the axle etc so get the one that works for your set up. You need to make sure the snubber does not touch the belt. You leave a little gap of a couple of millimetres. This manual has a page all about snubber set up and which one you need. www.gatescarbondrive.com/~/media/files/gcd/oemfactoryresources/gates-carbon-drive-rohloff-manual-en.pdf?la=en Here is a link to one of the examples. www.sjscycles.co.uk/gear-spares/gates-carbon-drive-rdm-snubber/

I think White Industries has been real world tested for many many years they have a rock solid reputation 👍🏽

in my opinion the weaknesses of aluminum failing from small manipulations are highly exaggerated online

I am 171cm and the frame is medium

It is a very nice bike that will last many year’s without much maintenance

There are loads. Have a look at Nua, Tout Terrain, Pilot, rennstahl-bikes, basically nearly every brand that does Pinion will have a commuting bike in their range. Have a look at the list of brands on the pinion site there are hundreds of brands that now use Pinion.

@@RidingBicycles thanks. I'll check it out today

I got rid of the shifters and went flat bar. There was nothing wrong with them but I did miss the fact with a twist you can go through the whole range of gears and not just three etc. I really like the twist shifters for Rohloff and Pinion. Have in mind I am old skool. My go to bikes are my down tube friction shifters.

Hi, The riding position on both bikes is very comfortable but that is different for everyone and can always be changed with different saddles, stems, bars etc. As regards to which bike If it is going to be your only bike I would suggest you think about which terrain you want to make most progress on. If you want to be quicker on the road then go for the Scrambler. If singletrack gets you excited then it would be the Outback. The Outback with some rigid forks and semi slick tyres would also work on the road. But bear in mind both bikes are not the lightest or fastest in the category of hard tails and gravels bikes. But if your main priorities are solo rides with nearly zero maintenance after each ride then you would be happy.

@@RidingBicycles thanks for the advice, now I'm thinking about Pinion, seems great but I do a lot of climbing on my bike, the weight maybe is more important in this situation... But I also love the idea of zero maintenance, also for the enviroment. Hard choice ;)

Yes. For less maintenance than indexed derailleurs and lightness my downtube friction shifters are my favourite bikes. I am building up a couple more for me and my partner. A couple of Brother Cycles Mr Woodens. Hers will have friction thumb shifters and mine down tube friction to match my Black Mountain Cycles Road bike which he does not make anymore. If you are wanting lower maintenance and don’t mind friction shifting then that is a good way to go. Black Mountain Cycles has just given notice on his Monster Cross frame with bosses for down tube shifters and canti brakes. It looks amazing in bright pink.

The views were immense and some of the wildlife which I did not get on camera was just lovely. Giant stags, seals etc it was ace! We were very lucky with the weather. It was a great trip you will love it. There are various options you can take to bypass some sections of the official bikepacking route if you want to make sure you hit a cafe etc. you will love it.

I think the Effigear gearbox uses the same mount.

The style of bike would mean I don’t speed with fast bikes. This is a heavy duty expedition touring machine. Perfect for fully loaded off road tours, speedy is not a strong point of this setup.

Not that I am aware of. Bar end shifters work really well from the drops.

Always a delicate topic. I try to be a very good boy for a few days before I have the conversation.

😂😂 no but I am in the process of selling a few and not buying anymore. Retirement is looming, it is time to start getting serious with plans in place. 😂

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Cheers. We are fortunate our school is willing to let us do activities like this in todays over protective culture. 👍🏽

@@RidingBicycles so true 👍

They are always a pleasure 👍🏽

Yes the message about using your car less for short journeys does not seem to be getting through to councils, governments or people.

You still use a normal 11sp free hub with spacers or a single speed free hub. The belt does not turn whilst coasting just like a “normal” derailiuer and chain